Great moderating, moderator. We appreciate.

(05-20-2016 10:23 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(05-20-2016 10:15 AM)Olde Hate Wrote:  It's as simple as this: the majority of the SC taxpayers HATE that Coastal exists for a couple of reasons. #1 South Carolinians don't like the type of people Coastal attracts: party-school image and out-of-state students who do not conform to SC ways. As a former teacher who taught in SC, there's a stigma when most students even said Coastal Carolina. It was always connected with "last choice school", thuggish, STDs and a party school. #2 you have the 2 big schools' (U of SC and Clemson) alumni base, which, unlike CCU's, stay in the state and has more power in the state government. I'm surprised that the state hasn't cut funding all together and pushed Coastal to become a private school.

That sounds very familiar. Feel your pain. Keep fighting

Which part sounds familiar? STD's ?

(05-24-2016 05:25 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Great moderating, moderator. We appreciate.

Suck up...

No, losing five pages of regurgitated arguments is great work.

Well maybe...

(05-20-2016 10:15 AM)Olde Hate Wrote:  It's as simple as this: the majority of the SC taxpayers HATE that Coastal exists for a couple of reasons. #1 South Carolinians don't like the type of people Coastal attracts: party-school image and out-of-state students who do not conform to SC ways. As a former teacher who taught in SC, there's a stigma when most students even said Coastal Carolina. It was always connected with "last choice school", thuggish, STDs and a party school. #2 you have the 2 big schools' (U of SC and Clemson) alumni base, which, unlike CCU's, stay in the state and has more power in the state government. I'm surprised that the state hasn't cut funding all together and pushed Coastal to become a private school.

Hmm powerful SEC and ACC schools in your state who aren't used to having to compete with another FBS school in the state are suddenly making it difficult for your school to accomplish anything? Gee where have I heard that one before.

Well, we have 5 fbs schools, including lsu@br, and 5 fcs schools all playing football. It's a cluster f...uck.

(05-24-2016 09:49 PM)SlickRick12 Wrote:  Well, we have 5 fbs schools, including lsu@br, and 5 fcs schools all playing football. It's a cluster f...uck.

LEGAL translation... "LSU" = "Louisiana State University and Mechanical and Agricultural College of Baton Rouge".

(05-24-2016 09:38 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(05-20-2016 10:15 AM)Olde Hate Wrote:  It's as simple as this: the majority of the SC taxpayers HATE that Coastal exists for a couple of reasons. #1 South Carolinians don't like the type of people Coastal attracts: party-school image and out-of-state students who do not conform to SC ways. As a former teacher who taught in SC, there's a stigma when most students even said Coastal Carolina. It was always connected with "last choice school", thuggish, STDs and a party school. #2 you have the 2 big schools' (U of SC and Clemson) alumni base, which, unlike CCU's, stay in the state and has more power in the state government. I'm surprised that the state hasn't cut funding all together and pushed Coastal to become a private school.

Hmm powerful SEC and ACC schools in your state who aren't used to having to compete with another FBS school in the state are suddenly making it difficult for your school to accomplish anything? Gee where have I heard that one before.

In all fairness one can see why the other two may look down on coastal which has such a skimpy academic offering if coastal folks are intent on offering up their school as a peer to any of the others. with only one phd program and few masters level offerings coastal has a long way to go to catch up to the others. It's good that coastal fans are proud of their school tho and they seem to be motivated to be better.

(05-25-2016 07:00 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 09:38 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(05-20-2016 10:15 AM)Olde Hate Wrote:  It's as simple as this: the majority of the SC taxpayers HATE that Coastal exists for a couple of reasons. #1 South Carolinians don't like the type of people Coastal attracts: party-school image and out-of-state students who do not conform to SC ways. As a former teacher who taught in SC, there's a stigma when most students even said Coastal Carolina. It was always connected with "last choice school", thuggish, STDs and a party school. #2 you have the 2 big schools' (U of SC and Clemson) alumni base, which, unlike CCU's, stay in the state and has more power in the state government. I'm surprised that the state hasn't cut funding all together and pushed Coastal to become a private school.

Hmm powerful SEC and ACC schools in your state who aren't used to having to compete with another FBS school in the state are suddenly making it difficult for your school to accomplish anything? Gee where have I heard that one before.

In all fairness one can see why the other two may look down on coastal which has such a skimpy academic offering if coastal folks are intent on offering up their school as a peer to any of the others. with only one phd program and few masters level offerings coastal has a long way to go to catch up to the others. It's good that coastal fans are proud of their school tho and they seem to be motivated to be better.

But are the degrees that they are allowed to offer controlled by (& funding for those programs) a board made up of 90% Clemson and USC alums? And a % of the rest of that board, faithful to the flagship and or Clemson? That's what we deal with.

(05-25-2016 07:00 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 09:38 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(05-20-2016 10:15 AM)Olde Hate Wrote:  It's as simple as this: the majority of the SC taxpayers HATE that Coastal exists for a couple of reasons. #1 South Carolinians don't like the type of people Coastal attracts: party-school image and out-of-state students who do not conform to SC ways. As a former teacher who taught in SC, there's a stigma when most students even said Coastal Carolina. It was always connected with "last choice school", thuggish, STDs and a party school. #2 you have the 2 big schools' (U of SC and Clemson) alumni base, which, unlike CCU's, stay in the state and has more power in the state government. I'm surprised that the state hasn't cut funding all together and pushed Coastal to become a private school.

Hmm powerful SEC and ACC schools in your state who aren't used to having to compete with another FBS school in the state are suddenly making it difficult for your school to accomplish anything? Gee where have I heard that one before.

In all fairness one can see why the other two may look down on coastal which has such a skimpy academic offering if coastal folks are intent on offering up their school as a peer to any of the others. with only one phd program and few masters level offerings coastal has a long way to go to catch up to the others. It's good that coastal fans are proud of their school tho and they seem to be motivated to be better.

We are already better than them simply because we are Coastal. I look down my nose at them.

(05-25-2016 07:00 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 09:38 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(05-20-2016 10:15 AM)Olde Hate Wrote:  It's as simple as this: the majority of the SC taxpayers HATE that Coastal exists for a couple of reasons. #1 South Carolinians don't like the type of people Coastal attracts: party-school image and out-of-state students who do not conform to SC ways. As a former teacher who taught in SC, there's a stigma when most students even said Coastal Carolina. It was always connected with "last choice school", thuggish, STDs and a party school. #2 you have the 2 big schools' (U of SC and Clemson) alumni base, which, unlike CCU's, stay in the state and has more power in the state government. I'm surprised that the state hasn't cut funding all together and pushed Coastal to become a private school.

Hmm powerful SEC and ACC schools in your state who aren't used to having to compete with another FBS school in the state are suddenly making it difficult for your school to accomplish anything? Gee where have I heard that one before.

In all fairness one can see why the other two may look down on coastal which has such a skimpy academic offering if coastal folks are intent on offering up their school as a peer to any of the others. with only one phd program and few masters level offerings coastal has a long way to go to catch up to the others. It's good that coastal fans are proud of their school tho and they seem to be motivated to be better.

I really don't even see Clemson and SC being the problem. They are the haves and will get what they want. We aren't trying to be a research school so we will never try to compare research degrees / dollars. I know you hold research in high regard but some schools just aren't going to be that - we want to be a teaching first institution.

The biggest issue here I think are the rest of the schools, public and private, that don't want us to grow and suck enrollment from them.

(05-24-2016 09:49 PM)SlickRick12 Wrote:  Well, we have 5 fbs schools, including lsu@br, and 5 fcs schools all playing football. It's a cluster f...uck.

North Carolina now has 7 FBS schools (UNC, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, ECU, UNCCharlotte, and App) plus at least 6 more FCS (Western Carolina, Elon, Gardner Webb, Campbell, NC Central, and NC A&T - I may be missing one)...all in a state not widely considered fertile recruiting ground. Brutal.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Thankfully, there's a dearth of talent to recruit from in Texas, but there are 12 FBS schools, most in the country.
Texas State, North Texas, UTEP, Rice, UTSA, SMU, Houston, UT-Austin, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Texas A&M.

Then there's the eight FCS programs, tied for the most of any state with New York and Pennsylvania.
Lamar, Sam Houston St, Incarnate Word, Abilene Christian, SFA, Houston Baptist, Texas Southern and Prairie View A&M.

(05-25-2016 08:48 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 09:49 PM)SlickRick12 Wrote:  Well, we have 5 fbs schools, including lsu@br, and 5 fcs schools all playing football. It's a cluster f...uck.

North Carolina now has 7 FBS schools (UNC, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, ECU, UNCCharlotte, and App) plus at least 6 more FCS (Western Carolina, Elon, Gardner Webb, Campbell, NC Central, and NC A&T - I may be missing one)...all in a state not widely considered fertile recruiting ground. Brutal.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

That's why I love our Location in Statesboro.
Same 10 Million population.
Not far from the FL line, 1 hour to the coast.

State loaded with talent and only 4 FBS teams in the state with ALL of the other three being crammed into/around Atlanta.

We only have 3 FCS programs to deal with. Two are up starts and they are both close to Atlanta (KSU and Mercer) - no real threat at the moment. And then Sav. State....

We do have one of the best D2 programs in the country in Valdosta State, but we just took their HC and their HS's Head coach. Don't think we would have problems getting recruits that they would be after if we wanted/needed them.

The stage is set for an explosion for us if we can capitalize on our advantages. Oh, and IF WE CAN KEEP EVERYBODY ELSE OUT!

I hope they revisit and change the satellite camp rules to: Within your own state or within 50 Miles of your campus. Maybe even allow 100 Miles. I'd be willing to extend it to 175 Miles.
(Statesboro to Jacksonville FL )

Nah, that would let Troy and UAB sneak in.

(05-25-2016 04:38 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 08:48 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 09:49 PM)SlickRick12 Wrote:  Well, we have 5 fbs schools, including lsu@br, and 5 fcs schools all playing football. It's a cluster f...uck.

North Carolina now has 7 FBS schools (UNC, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, ECU, UNCCharlotte, and App) plus at least 6 more FCS (Western Carolina, Elon, Gardner Webb, Campbell, NC Central, and NC A&T - I may be missing one)...all in a state not widely considered fertile recruiting ground. Brutal.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

That's why I love our Location in Statesboro.
Same 10 Million population.
Not far from the FL line, 1 hour to the coast.

State loaded with talent and only 4 FBS teams in the state with ALL of the other three being crammed into/around Atlanta.

We only have 3 FCS programs to deal with. Two are up starts and they are both close to Atlanta (KSU and Mercer) - no real threat at the moment. And then Sav. State....

We do have one of the best D2 programs in the country in Valdosta State, but we just took their HC and their HS's Head coach. Don't think we would have problems getting recruits that they would be after if we wanted/needed them.

The stage is set for an explosion for us if we can capitalize on our advantages. Oh, and IF WE CAN KEEP EVERYBODY ELSE OUT!

I hope they revisit and change the satellite camp rules to: Within your own state or within 50 Miles of your campus. Maybe even allow 100 Miles. I'd be willing to extend it to 175 Miles.
(Statesboro to Jacksonville FL )

Nah, that would let Troy and UAB sneak in.

So yeah, about CCU stadium expansion. Is it gonna get done or not?

Southern being where it is well, dunno if it's really an advantage for recruiting at all to be honest. Fan support, absolutely.

(05-25-2016 05:21 PM)timber Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 04:38 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 08:48 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 09:49 PM)SlickRick12 Wrote:  Well, we have 5 fbs schools, including lsu@br, and 5 fcs schools all playing football. It's a cluster f...uck.

North Carolina now has 7 FBS schools (UNC, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, ECU, UNCCharlotte, and App) plus at least 6 more FCS (Western Carolina, Elon, Gardner Webb, Campbell, NC Central, and NC A&T - I may be missing one)...all in a state not widely considered fertile recruiting ground. Brutal.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

That's why I love our Location in Statesboro.
Same 10 Million population.
Not far from the FL line, 1 hour to the coast.

State loaded with talent and only 4 FBS teams in the state with ALL of the other three being crammed into/around Atlanta.

We only have 3 FCS programs to deal with. Two are up starts and they are both close to Atlanta (KSU and Mercer) - no real threat at the moment. And then Sav. State....

We do have one of the best D2 programs in the country in Valdosta State, but we just took their HC and their HS's Head coach. Don't think we would have problems getting recruits that they would be after if we wanted/needed them.

The stage is set for an explosion for us if we can capitalize on our advantages. Oh, and IF WE CAN KEEP EVERYBODY ELSE OUT!

I hope they revisit and change the satellite camp rules to: Within your own state or within 50 Miles of your campus. Maybe even allow 100 Miles. I'd be willing to extend it to 175 Miles.
(Statesboro to Jacksonville FL )

Nah, that would let Troy and UAB sneak in.

So yeah, about CCU stadium expansion. Is it gonna get done or not?

Southern being where it is well, dunno if it's really an advantage for recruiting at all to be honest. Fan support, absolutely.

Yea, we need to get back on topic.

But as for your opinion of our location:
Being in GA is huge (gast has that, assuming that's your team... )

Being close to the FL line: I'd have to put that in the plus column. Short drive for moma to come watch Jr play for FL recruits.

Being in a rural town, With the University being the biggest freak in town allows us to be a true college town. With Tom to easily expand and with green traditional college settings. You can argue Atlanta and it's big city lights attraction, and you'd be right for some recruits. Also your proximity to more of our population COULD be a plus for y'all. But a lot of kids want to get away from home for college. A few hours down the road is perfect. Anyway, my comments were in contrast to APP state s situation, not gast versus gs.

Anyway, now back to our regularly scheduled program.... CCU stadium expansion and their fight.

(05-26-2016 07:04 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 05:21 PM)timber Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 04:38 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 08:48 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 09:49 PM)SlickRick12 Wrote:  Well, we have 5 fbs schools, including lsu@br, and 5 fcs schools all playing football. It's a cluster f...uck.

North Carolina now has 7 FBS schools (UNC, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, ECU, UNCCharlotte, and App) plus at least 6 more FCS (Western Carolina, Elon, Gardner Webb, Campbell, NC Central, and NC A&T - I may be missing one)...all in a state not widely considered fertile recruiting ground. Brutal.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

That's why I love our Location in Statesboro.
Same 10 Million population.
Not far from the FL line, 1 hour to the coast.

State loaded with talent and only 4 FBS teams in the state with ALL of the other three being crammed into/around Atlanta.

We only have 3 FCS programs to deal with. Two are up starts and they are both close to Atlanta (KSU and Mercer) - no real threat at the moment. And then Sav. State....

We do have one of the best D2 programs in the country in Valdosta State, but we just took their HC and their HS's Head coach. Don't think we would have problems getting recruits that they would be after if we wanted/needed them.

The stage is set for an explosion for us if we can capitalize on our advantages. Oh, and IF WE CAN KEEP EVERYBODY ELSE OUT!

I hope they revisit and change the satellite camp rules to: Within your own state or within 50 Miles of your campus. Maybe even allow 100 Miles. I'd be willing to extend it to 175 Miles.
(Statesboro to Jacksonville FL )

Nah, that would let Troy and UAB sneak in.

So yeah, about CCU stadium expansion. Is it gonna get done or not?

Southern being where it is well, dunno if it's really an advantage for recruiting at all to be honest. Fan support, absolutely.

Yea, we need to get back on topic.

But as for your opinion of our location:
Being in GA is huge (gast has that, assuming that's your team... )

Being close to the FL line: I'd have to put that in the plus column. Short drive for moma to come watch Jr play for FL recruits.

Being in a rural town, With the University being the biggest freak in town allows us to be a true college town. With Tom to easily expand and with green traditional college settings. You can argue Atlanta and it's big city lights attraction, and you'd be right for some recruits. Also your proximity to more of our population COULD be a plus for y'all. But a lot of kids want to get away from home for college. A few hours down the road is perfect. Anyway, my comments were in contrast to APP state s situation, not gast versus gs.

Anyway, now back to our regularly scheduled program.... CCU stadium expansion and their fight.

Let's get back on topic...

...now about that off topic thing, here's what I think....

...ok guys lets get back on topic!

The petition closes this week and will be sent to the governor. Probably won't help but worth a shot.

Doesn't sound like we are presenting to the CHE next week - but should know when they release the agenda - should be today or tomorrow.

Our board chair was on the radio during our baseball game last night just to let everyone know that the board and administration are working hard and that it will happen but it is taking longer than anticipated and to have patience.