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(11-29-2015 05:09 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  We are going to be rowing the boat for a long time. Probably a good time for some to jump ship.

Get it done WMU!!!! Pay the Admiral!

Nah, I'm not jumping, I'm going to row harder. My way. EXPECTATIONS will be high, that is for sure. NO MORE EXCUSES like the last three years.

(11-29-2015 05:07 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 05:03 PM)Broncobelt Wrote:  A rising tide raises all boats. WMU may be setting the stage for escalating coaching salaries across the MAC. Per news reports Toledo was prepared to top PJ's contract with Campbell, in an attempt to persuade him to stay. BGSU and NIU may be thinking in a similar vein. From there it would be trickle down economics for the other MAC schools.

How's that for using political buzz phrases?

Well done. Where do you fit in fiscal prudence and fiduciary responsibility?

Self sufficiency

(11-29-2015 05:09 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 05:09 PM)bossman68 Wrote:  Why does it seem like this was planted out there, kinda like Campbell's people were manipulating the media yesterday. You can't keep giving PJ raises and nothing additional for the staff. Can u imagine if PJ was to get paid 10 x what his coordinators get paid. Bad idea

It does seem very calculated. If they're that afraid of losing him they'd have cut the deal now in the office and not leaked it, from the Athletic Departments side anyway.

The more I think about this, it feels really contrived and planted. Much like a rumor which got going so strong that people posting here got in hot water a while back.

These people are very manipulative.

Reminds me of a Sinatra song:

"That's life (that's life). That's what all the message board posters say.
Your posting rumors in April, gettin' sued in May"

(11-29-2015 05:17 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  Reminds me of a Sinatra song:

"That's life (that's life). That's what all the message board posters say.
Your posting rumors in April, gettin' sued in May"

Who got sued Chuck?

(11-29-2015 05:13 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 05:09 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 05:09 PM)bossman68 Wrote:  Why does it seem like this was planted out there, kinda like Campbell's people were manipulating the media yesterday. You can't keep giving PJ raises and nothing additional for the staff. Can u imagine if PJ was to get paid 10 x what his coordinators get paid. Bad idea

It does seem very calculated. If they're that afraid of losing him they'd have cut the deal now in the office and not leaked it, from the Athletic Departments side anyway.

The more I think about this, it feels really contrived and planted. Much like a rumor which got going so strong that people posting here got in hot water a while back.

These people are very manipulative.

PLANT!!

(11-29-2015 05:11 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 05:03 PM)Broncobelt Wrote:  A rising tide raises all boats. WMU may be setting the stage for escalating coaching salaries across the MAC. Per news reports Toledo was prepared to top PJ's contract with Campbell, in an attempt to persuade him to stay. BGSU and NIU may be thinking in a similar vein. From there it would be trickle down economics for the other MAC schools.

How's that for using political buzz phrases?

Tide of what? From where?

A Rising tide of cash. Either from other programs, other purposes, or greater donations.

I don't believe this story at all. I hope PJ stays a long time but WMU can only pay so much.

Wait, DB...there was no law suit?

Boosters.

At this point I don't really care. If it was not this pissing match, it would be another one. Seems like a bit of revisionist history is going on, from both camps.

(11-29-2015 05:25 PM)wmutkelaw Wrote:  Wait, DB...there was no law suit?

There wasn't?!?

That's great!! Woot woot!

(11-29-2015 05:26 PM)wmutkelaw Wrote:  At this point I don't really care. If it was not this pissing match, it would be another one. Seems like a bit of revisionist history is going on, from both camps.

Who comprise the "camps" exactly?

Pay PJ Fleck. Let's ensure some consistency in the program and continue to break down barriers (victories against ranked teams, consistent bowl appearances, MAC West titles, etc.)

ROW THE BOAT

If this is true, it's the best news for WMU football in a long, long time.

(11-29-2015 05:28 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  Pay PJ Fleck. Let's ensure some consistency in the program and continue to break down barriers (victories against ranked teams, consistent bowl appearances, MAC West titles, etc.)

ROW THE BOAT

If this is true, it's the best news for WMU football in a long, long time.

I happen to agree. Pay him. Expectations will be sky high and immediate. He doesn't meet them then he will be gone faster than you can say "Richt"

(11-29-2015 05:31 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 05:28 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  Pay PJ Fleck. Let's ensure some consistency in the program and continue to break down barriers (victories against ranked teams, consistent bowl appearances, MAC West titles, etc.)

ROW THE BOAT

If this is true, it's the best news for WMU football in a long, long time.

I happen to agree. Pay him. Expectations will be sky high and immediate. He doesn't meet them then he will be gone faster than you can say "Richt"

Were not talking about Coach Dantonio here ...Let some other school take a chance on him....Next year is no gimme and what is the return on investment for WMU its not like we jump to the Big and get a share of that leagues profits. So what if we become a big fish in a small pond the financial gain for WMU wont be that great in the MAC\ Let Fleck show the University why its in their best interest to pay him more than they currently pay him how much will WMU stand to gain in dollars and cents. How does Dr. Dunn go to the State Legislature to lobby for more state funding for WMU when they are paying their football coach upwards of 1 mil. LET FLECK WALK.

Those who stay and Row will be Champions.

Rich people sure like spending money. As long as it's not coming out of University funds, I don't care.

(11-29-2015 05:12 PM)Broncobelt Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 05:07 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 05:03 PM)Broncobelt Wrote:  A rising tide raises all boats. WMU may be setting the stage for escalating coaching salaries across the MAC. Per news reports Toledo was prepared to top PJ's contract with Campbell, in an attempt to persuade him to stay. BGSU and NIU may be thinking in a similar vein. From there it would be trickle down economics for the other MAC schools.

How's that for using political buzz phrases?

Well done. Where do you fit in fiscal prudence and fiduciary responsibility?

Self sufficiency

I want to go with Sustainable.

I suspect if anything new is announced it will not be be funded primarily by the University. This is likely heavily booster driven as I know from periodic discussions that several key boosters are tightly aligned with PJ. I can't recall the details of his current contract but there are major commitments/funding from outside the University.