(11-11-2015 09:59 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:42 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:48 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:28 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:14 PM)Kronke Wrote:  It's so ignorant to compare a first year coach's salary to a guy that has been in the same post for a decade, and has been through countless renegotiations.

We can and will bump Herman to the $2.5 million range, which is comparable to what USCe would offer him. They would be dumb to offer a guy that's been a HC all of 9 games Steve Spurrier type money. In the event that he fails, they'd be on the hook for $15-$20 million.

I'm not being a jerk by saying this let me throw this out there but..

The average income for an American is around $50,000. The vast majority of Americans would quit a company they have worked for 15 years with if another company offered them a $20,000 pay increase. And if you and your spouse were making $110,000 combined you would be considered wealthy depending on how you live your life.

I don't know you personally but unless you are a Physician or big wig engineer your most likely are below $100,000 on your income. If someone offered you that much money right now I can almost be certain you would take the offer.

So you are here trying to tell us that a guy would not leave to make about 2 MILLION more? Especially, in a career where if you make one bad mistake or have a few bad seasons your reputation can be lost forever.

You are kidding right? Every single top 25 MBA program has an average salary post graduation of over $100k.

Considering he is only a Houston fan I was going out on a limb and assuming he did not get an MBA at Stanford or Harvard. And even if he did I said most likely which infers that I could have possibly been incorrect. And regarding your post, I said "The average income for an American is around $50,000". Is the average American attending one of the top 25 MBA programs in the country?

But this is off the point. The point of my post was that it's silly to think someone would not jump at the chance to make a lot more money. When most people would again uproot their lives for a 20,000 salary increase.

I believe it would imply, not infer.

Cool story, English is not my first language. I make a mistake every now and then.

(11-11-2015 10:03 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:33 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:38 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:28 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I don't know you personally but unless you are a Physician or big wig engineer your most likely are below $100,000 on your income.

You obviously live in Alabama.

See... "most likely". There aren't that many people making more than $100K on their own.

Talking HOUSEHOLD income here the top 1% make $300K or more. Top ~20% make $100K or more so he's spot on.

If your daddy makes more than that you have an extremely fortunate lot in life. There's really no reason to be a dickhead about it.

http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/income-rank/

Exactly, there are some people that are completely out of touch with reality. I doubt that it's even true that the average American is even making $48,000 in 2015. I know plenty of people with MBA's, engineering degree's, computer science degree's, and other high dollar degree's that cannot even find a job and have been forced to work at places like Walmart.

This was me in the past being honest. I came out of my parents house having to be self supportive so I was forced to work at places like Waffle House, Walmart, Best Buy making around $25,000 or less. And my wife even though she is a doctor grew up in a household where they had to go without soap at times.

This is really OT lol, but regardless of what we make in the future I don't ever even see myself finding it reasonable to live of more than 90k for two people.

I had a similar background. Parents grew up dirt poor and clawed their way "up" to lower middle class. Wife and are in in a really good spot right now but I don't plan on showing it to people. It really is amazing how out of touch with reality many Americans can be. That probably at least partially explains our debt crisis.

(11-11-2015 10:04 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:59 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:42 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:48 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:28 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I'm not being a jerk by saying this let me throw this out there but..

The average income for an American is around $50,000. The vast majority of Americans would quit a company they have worked for 15 years with if another company offered them a $20,000 pay increase. And if you and your spouse were making $110,000 combined you would be considered wealthy depending on how you live your life.

I don't know you personally but unless you are a Physician or big wig engineer your most likely are below $100,000 on your income. If someone offered you that much money right now I can almost be certain you would take the offer.

So you are here trying to tell us that a guy would not leave to make about 2 MILLION more? Especially, in a career where if you make one bad mistake or have a few bad seasons your reputation can be lost forever.

You are kidding right? Every single top 25 MBA program has an average salary post graduation of over $100k.

Considering he is only a Houston fan I was going out on a limb and assuming he did not get an MBA at Stanford or Harvard. And even if he did I said most likely which infers that I could have possibly been incorrect. And regarding your post, I said "The average income for an American is around $50,000". Is the average American attending one of the top 25 MBA programs in the country?

But this is off the point. The point of my post was that it's silly to think someone would not jump at the chance to make a lot more money. When most people would again uproot their lives for a 20,000 salary increase.

I believe it would imply, not infer.

Cool story, English is not my first language. I make a mistake every now and then.

Don't knock a UH education by say "Considering he is only a Houston fan..." unless you want your own faults called out.

(11-11-2015 10:10 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:04 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:59 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:42 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:48 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  You are kidding right? Every single top 25 MBA program has an average salary post graduation of over $100k.

Considering he is only a Houston fan I was going out on a limb and assuming he did not get an MBA at Stanford or Harvard. And even if he did I said most likely which infers that I could have possibly been incorrect. And regarding your post, I said "The average income for an American is around $50,000". Is the average American attending one of the top 25 MBA programs in the country?

But this is off the point. The point of my post was that it's silly to think someone would not jump at the chance to make a lot more money. When most people would again uproot their lives for a 20,000 salary increase.

I believe it would imply, not infer.

Cool story, English is not my first language. I make a mistake every now and then.

Don't knock a UH education by say "Considering he is only a Houston fan..." unless you want your own faults called out.

When did I knock UH education? Look at the schools I root for (University of Alabama, Alabama A&M, and Southern California), logically you would assume I went to or has some tie to these schools correct?

He had Houston on his so I said he most likely just went to Houston. Maybe, that's just me but I will be putting Dakota State University on mine also when I start my Doctorate degree...

(11-11-2015 09:42 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:48 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:28 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:14 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 04:43 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  For the better of the conference, I'd like him to stay, but if SC does offer then you better break the bank if you want to keep him:

2015 Salaries
UH - Tom Herman: $1,450,000
SC - Steve Spurrier: $4,028,600

That would be a huge amount of cash to turn down if they offered him Spurrier money

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

It's so ignorant to compare a first year coach's salary to a guy that has been in the same post for a decade, and has been through countless renegotiations.

We can and will bump Herman to the $2.5 million range, which is comparable to what USCe would offer him. They would be dumb to offer a guy that's been a HC all of 9 games Steve Spurrier type money. In the event that he fails, they'd be on the hook for $15-$20 million.

I'm not being a jerk by saying this let me throw this out there but..

The average income for an American is around $50,000. The vast majority of Americans would quit a company they have worked for 15 years with if another company offered them a $20,000 pay increase. And if you and your spouse were making $110,000 combined you would be considered wealthy depending on how you live your life.

I don't know you personally but unless you are a Physician or big wig engineer your most likely are below $100,000 on your income. If someone offered you that much money right now I can almost be certain you would take the offer.

So you are here trying to tell us that a guy would not leave to make about 2 MILLION more? Especially, in a career where if you make one bad mistake or have a few bad seasons your reputation can be lost forever.

You are kidding right? Every single top 25 MBA program has an average salary post graduation of over $100k.

Considering he is only a Houston fan I was going out on a limb and assuming he did not get an MBA at Stanford or Harvard. And even if he did I said most likely which infers that I could have possibly been incorrect. And regarding your post, I said "The average income for an American is around $50,000". Is the average American attending one of the top 25 MBA programs in the country?

But this is off the point. The point of my post was that it's silly to think someone would not jump at the chance to make a lot more money. When most people would again uproot their lives for a 20,000 salary increase.

You're not getting what I'm saying. You said "unless you're a physician or big wig engineer, you're most likely below $100k income."

I was arguing against that by saying its very common for people with business degrees working in finance, consulting, banking, marketing, or supply chain to make over $100k. I was backing it up with saying the average salary out of a top 25 mba program starts at over $100k and only goes up as recent graduates gain experience.

You don't have to work in medical or engineering to break $100k.

(11-11-2015 10:26 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:42 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:48 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:28 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:14 PM)Kronke Wrote:  It's so ignorant to compare a first year coach's salary to a guy that has been in the same post for a decade, and has been through countless renegotiations.

We can and will bump Herman to the $2.5 million range, which is comparable to what USCe would offer him. They would be dumb to offer a guy that's been a HC all of 9 games Steve Spurrier type money. In the event that he fails, they'd be on the hook for $15-$20 million.

I'm not being a jerk by saying this let me throw this out there but..

The average income for an American is around $50,000. The vast majority of Americans would quit a company they have worked for 15 years with if another company offered them a $20,000 pay increase. And if you and your spouse were making $110,000 combined you would be considered wealthy depending on how you live your life.

I don't know you personally but unless you are a Physician or big wig engineer your most likely are below $100,000 on your income. If someone offered you that much money right now I can almost be certain you would take the offer.

So you are here trying to tell us that a guy would not leave to make about 2 MILLION more? Especially, in a career where if you make one bad mistake or have a few bad seasons your reputation can be lost forever.

You are kidding right? Every single top 25 MBA program has an average salary post graduation of over $100k.

Considering he is only a Houston fan I was going out on a limb and assuming he did not get an MBA at Stanford or Harvard. And even if he did I said most likely which infers that I could have possibly been incorrect. And regarding your post, I said "The average income for an American is around $50,000". Is the average American attending one of the top 25 MBA programs in the country?

But this is off the point. The point of my post was that it's silly to think someone would not jump at the chance to make a lot more money. When most people would again uproot their lives for a 20,000 salary increase.

You're not getting what I'm saying. You said "unless you're a physician or big wig engineer, you're most likely below $100k income."

I was arguing against that by saying its very common for people with business degrees working in finance, consulting, banking, marketing, or supply chain to make over $100k. I was backing it up with saying the average salary out of a top 25 mba program starts at over $100k and only goes up as recent graduates gain experience.

You don't have to work in medical or engineering to break $100k.

I agree with you, I think we both misunderstood each other. I was pointing out that he probably was not making that unless for example he had a very high paying job which is statistically not common.

Not that anyone who does not work in technology or medicine does not make over 100k.

(11-11-2015 10:18 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:10 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:04 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:59 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 09:42 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  Considering he is only a Houston fan I was going out on a limb and assuming he did not get an MBA at Stanford or Harvard. And even if he did I said most likely which infers that I could have possibly been incorrect. And regarding your post, I said "The average income for an American is around $50,000". Is the average American attending one of the top 25 MBA programs in the country?

But this is off the point. The point of my post was that it's silly to think someone would not jump at the chance to make a lot more money. When most people would again uproot their lives for a 20,000 salary increase.

I believe it would imply, not infer.

Cool story, English is not my first language. I make a mistake every now and then.

Don't knock a UH education by say "Considering he is only a Houston fan..." unless you want your own faults called out.

When did I knock UH education? Look at the schools I root for (University of Alabama, Alabama A&M, and Southern California), logically you would assume I went to or has some tie to these schools correct?

He had Houston on his so I said he most likely just went to Houston. Maybe, that's just me but I will be putting Dakota State University on mine also when I start my Doctorate degree...

My apologies for misunderstanding, but please understand that the use of the word only can be very belittling. She's only 5 feet tall. He only got a B in the class. They only won by 3 points.

Perhaps he only has Houston listed in his profile would have caused less confusion.

(11-10-2015 05:28 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I don't know you personally but unless you are a Physician or big wig engineer your most likely are below $100,000 on your income.

My wife is an RN with a BS degree from a school 99% of you haven't heard of and she makes more than $100k.

And regarding people totally changing their lives for an additional $20k, there are tons of nurses in her hospital making about $80k who don't even apply for the position that my wife has because it's not worth the extra money for them. In fact, my wife is going to switch to a job that makes less money than she's making now because it is better for her at this time.

Don't assume all people are motivated by is money. Sometimes once you reach a certain amount of money, other things become more important to many people.

The Strong to Miami rumors are here in Louisville as well. (Vickie doesn't like Austin very much is what she has told friends here.) Charlie may jump this year before he is fired next season....

(11-11-2015 11:05 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  The Strong to Miami rumors are here in Louisville as well. (Vickie doesn't like Austin very much is what she has told friends here.) Charlie may jump this year before he is fired next season....

No way! He'd have to take a pay cut to go there (Golden made $2.5 million vs Strong making $5 million). And per the logic on this thread no one would take less money to work somewhere especially to make less money at a lesser program.

(11-11-2015 10:59 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:28 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I don't know you personally but unless you are a Physician or big wig engineer your most likely are below $100,000 on your income.

My wife is an RN with a BS degree from a school 99% of you haven't heard of and she makes more than $100k.

And regarding people totally changing their lives for an additional $20k, there are tons of nurses in her hospital making about $80k who don't even apply for the position that my wife has because it's not worth the extra money for them. In fact, my wife is going to switch to a job that makes less money than she's making now because it is better for her at this time.

Don't assume all people are motivated by is money. Sometimes once you reach a certain amount of money, other things become more important to many people.

My firm, where the bulk of staff (fat part of the bell curve) make between 90 and 140k, has actually done studies on this. The priorities that staff cited as most likely to aid in retention were:

1) work-life balance
2) length of commute (and telework)
3) more recognition from superiors for quality work
4) retirement contributions
5) salary

(11-11-2015 11:27 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:05 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  The Strong to Miami rumors are here in Louisville as well. (Vickie doesn't like Austin very much is what she has told friends here.) Charlie may jump this year before he is fired next season....

No way! He'd have to take a pay cut to go there (Golden made $2.5 million vs Strong making $5 million). And per the logic on this thread no one would take less money to work somewhere especially to make less money at a lesser program.

And Strong made 3.7 million at Louisville. So I don't think he would take that big of a pay-cut.

(11-11-2015 11:05 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  The Strong to Miami rumors are here in Louisville as well. (Vickie doesn't like Austin very much is what she has told friends here.) Charlie may jump this year before he is fired next season....

you don't hear that often.

As far as college football towns or cities go, Austin may be the best place in the country to live and work as a Football coach. Not too small like Tuscaloosa or too big like LA.

It's shocking to me how Texas hasn't competed for and won more titles with everything they offer

(11-11-2015 12:02 PM)knightastic Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:05 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  The Strong to Miami rumors are here in Louisville as well. (Vickie doesn't like Austin very much is what she has told friends here.) Charlie may jump this year before he is fired next season....

you don't hear that often.

As far as college football towns or cities go, Austin may be the best place in the country to live and work as a Football coach. Not too small like Tuscaloosa or too big like LA.

It's shocking to me how Texas hasn't competed for and won more titles with everything they offer

Austin is one of my favorite cities in the US. There's always so much going on, the weather is great, etc. I'd love to live there eventually.

I actually applied to UT-Austin for grad school, maybe I'll end up there sooner than later.

(11-11-2015 10:59 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:28 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I don't know you personally but unless you are a Physician or big wig engineer your most likely are below $100,000 on your income.

My wife is an RN with a BS degree from a school 99% of you haven't heard of and she makes more than $100k.

FFS, do you not know what "most likely" means?

(11-11-2015 05:00 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 10:59 AM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:28 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I don't know you personally but unless you are a Physician or big wig engineer your most likely are below $100,000 on your income.

My wife is an RN with a BS degree from a school 99% of you haven't heard of and she makes more than $100k.

FFS, do you not know what "most likely" means?

Yes. And I'm guessing there are many more nurses making that much money than physicians and big wig engineers because there are a lot more nurses.