(11-10-2015 05:53 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:43 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 03:33 PM)JesseTU Wrote:  The school has moderate accreditation (Florida Association of Christian Colleges and Schools via National Council for Private School Accreditation), but doesn't publish its academic standings (average ACT, student placement, etc.). No one has released Tackos SAT/ACT scores or any standardized test scores, but GPA alone is almost irrelevant. Heck, one of the AP classes he took was French - French is the official language of Senegal yet UCF is going to weight the AP French A as a 5.0? Whatever, all of that is fine, but it puts up warning bells to the NCAA.

This, at least in the state of Florida, is actually pretty common with private schools (excluding ACT). The reason is that the class work is typically more challenging than in public schools. So many private schools are hesitant to release student standing and average GPA information since a side by side comparison looking at just numbers could be biased in favor of the public school (easier classwork - higher GPA, more challenging classwork - lower GPA).

AP coursework is challenging everywhere. If a kid takes AP in a public school it is normally to the same standard as that of private school. If Tacko was in AP courses... and he passed the AP tests for college credit then he'd almost surely get the waiver.

BTW... UCF is super lenient with the credits they give out for AP courses.

What the heck does that mean? I took AP courses and had to pass the same standards on testing as everyone else who went to Florida Ohio State etc.

(11-12-2015 08:30 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:53 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:43 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 03:33 PM)JesseTU Wrote:  The school has moderate accreditation (Florida Association of Christian Colleges and Schools via National Council for Private School Accreditation), but doesn't publish its academic standings (average ACT, student placement, etc.). No one has released Tackos SAT/ACT scores or any standardized test scores, but GPA alone is almost irrelevant. Heck, one of the AP classes he took was French - French is the official language of Senegal yet UCF is going to weight the AP French A as a 5.0? Whatever, all of that is fine, but it puts up warning bells to the NCAA.

This, at least in the state of Florida, is actually pretty common with private schools (excluding ACT). The reason is that the class work is typically more challenging than in public schools. So many private schools are hesitant to release student standing and average GPA information since a side by side comparison looking at just numbers could be biased in favor of the public school (easier classwork - higher GPA, more challenging classwork - lower GPA).

AP coursework is challenging everywhere. If a kid takes AP in a public school it is normally to the same standard as that of private school. If Tacko was in AP courses... and he passed the AP tests for college credit then he'd almost surely get the waiver.

BTW... UCF is super lenient with the credits they give out for AP courses.

What the heck does that mean? I took AP courses and had to pass the same standards on testing as everyone else who went to Florida Ohio State etc.

Talking nonsense

This kid isn't eligible but Skal is. SMDH.

(11-12-2015 08:30 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:53 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:43 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 03:33 PM)JesseTU Wrote:  The school has moderate accreditation (Florida Association of Christian Colleges and Schools via National Council for Private School Accreditation), but doesn't publish its academic standings (average ACT, student placement, etc.). No one has released Tackos SAT/ACT scores or any standardized test scores, but GPA alone is almost irrelevant. Heck, one of the AP classes he took was French - French is the official language of Senegal yet UCF is going to weight the AP French A as a 5.0? Whatever, all of that is fine, but it puts up warning bells to the NCAA.

This, at least in the state of Florida, is actually pretty common with private schools (excluding ACT). The reason is that the class work is typically more challenging than in public schools. So many private schools are hesitant to release student standing and average GPA information since a side by side comparison looking at just numbers could be biased in favor of the public school (easier classwork - higher GPA, more challenging classwork - lower GPA).

AP coursework is challenging everywhere. If a kid takes AP in a public school it is normally to the same standard as that of private school. If Tacko was in AP courses... and he passed the AP tests for college credit then he'd almost surely get the waiver.

BTW... UCF is super lenient with the credits they give out for AP courses.

What the heck does that mean? I took AP courses and had to pass the same standards on testing as everyone else who went to Florida Ohio State etc.

Apparently you don't remember that AP tests aren't pass fail. You're graded on a 1-5 scale. All I'm saying is that UCF (and apparently all of the public schools in Florida) accept lower AP scores for college credit. Where you might have to get a 4 to get a semester of English at Tulsa or Tulane, you'd only need a 3 at UCF.

Once again, it's not a big deal just an observation.

Pretty good article from the O sentinal on schools side of the issue.


slantinal

(11-13-2015 01:24 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 08:30 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:53 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:43 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 03:33 PM)JesseTU Wrote:  The school has moderate accreditation (Florida Association of Christian Colleges and Schools via National Council for Private School Accreditation), but doesn't publish its academic standings (average ACT, student placement, etc.). No one has released Tackos SAT/ACT scores or any standardized test scores, but GPA alone is almost irrelevant. Heck, one of the AP classes he took was French - French is the official language of Senegal yet UCF is going to weight the AP French A as a 5.0? Whatever, all of that is fine, but it puts up warning bells to the NCAA.

This, at least in the state of Florida, is actually pretty common with private schools (excluding ACT). The reason is that the class work is typically more challenging than in public schools. So many private schools are hesitant to release student standing and average GPA information since a side by side comparison looking at just numbers could be biased in favor of the public school (easier classwork - higher GPA, more challenging classwork - lower GPA).

AP coursework is challenging everywhere. If a kid takes AP in a public school it is normally to the same standard as that of private school. If Tacko was in AP courses... and he passed the AP tests for college credit then he'd almost surely get the waiver.

BTW... UCF is super lenient with the credits they give out for AP courses.

What the heck does that mean? I took AP courses and had to pass the same standards on testing as everyone else who went to Florida Ohio State etc.

Apparently you don't remember that AP tests aren't pass fail. You're graded on a 1-5 scale. All I'm saying is that UCF (and apparently all of the public schools in Florida) accept lower AP scores for college credit. Where you might have to get a 4 to get a semester of English at Tulsa or Tulane, you'd only need a 3 at UCF.

Once again, it's not a big deal just an observation.

Both UCF and Tulsa require 3's, 4's or 5's depending on the course.

http://admission.utulsa.edu/academic-opp...nt-credit/

http://catalog.ucf.edu/policies/accelera...ortunities

Next time do 30 seconds worth of research.

(11-13-2015 08:16 AM)KnightsFan5912 Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 01:24 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Apparently you don't remember that AP tests aren't pass fail. You're graded on a 1-5 scale. All I'm saying is that UCF (and apparently all of the public schools in Florida) accept lower AP scores for college credit. Where you might have to get a 4 to get a semester of English at Tulsa or Tulane, you'd only need a 3 at UCF.

Once again, it's not a big deal just an observation.

Both UCF and Tulsa require 3's, 4's or 5's depending on the course.

http://admission.utulsa.edu/academic-opp...nt-credit/

http://catalog.ucf.edu/policies/accelera...ortunities

Next time do 30 seconds worth of research.

Great factual info. Thank you.

Bottom line...Tulsa and UCF are very good Universities...even with their different missions (small, tiny historic institution, started with their strong religious affiliation with the Presbyterian Church, along with their deserved strong academic reputation thru the century plus, and the other, a now growing large public institution in a region/state with exploding population....that has turned into one of the best "young" Universities that were established in the late 1880's and 1900's (heck, UCF didn't open their doors till October 1968).

Both serve their current missions well...very, very well.

Sadly, Tacko did very well in physics and calculus courses and is already set to be on the Honor Roll in his first semester in UCF's Engineering Program...yet some current NCAA student athletes that have been cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse can't even spell those courses correctly.

(11-13-2015 08:16 AM)KnightsFan5912 Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 01:24 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 08:30 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:53 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:43 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  This, at least in the state of Florida, is actually pretty common with private schools (excluding ACT). The reason is that the class work is typically more challenging than in public schools. So many private schools are hesitant to release student standing and average GPA information since a side by side comparison looking at just numbers could be biased in favor of the public school (easier classwork - higher GPA, more challenging classwork - lower GPA).

AP coursework is challenging everywhere. If a kid takes AP in a public school it is normally to the same standard as that of private school. If Tacko was in AP courses... and he passed the AP tests for college credit then he'd almost surely get the waiver.

BTW... UCF is super lenient with the credits they give out for AP courses.

What the heck does that mean? I took AP courses and had to pass the same standards on testing as everyone else who went to Florida Ohio State etc.

Apparently you don't remember that AP tests aren't pass fail. You're graded on a 1-5 scale. All I'm saying is that UCF (and apparently all of the public schools in Florida) accept lower AP scores for college credit. Where you might have to get a 4 to get a semester of English at Tulsa or Tulane, you'd only need a 3 at UCF.

Once again, it's not a big deal just an observation.

Both UCF and Tulsa require 3's, 4's or 5's depending on the course.

http://admission.utulsa.edu/academic-opp...nt-credit/

http://catalog.ucf.edu/policies/accelera...ortunities

Next time do 30 seconds worth of research.

I already looked at both those pages you A$$Hat. That's why I mentioned the scores. Because, in several categories UCF gives credit for lower scores. Next time, read a post without getting offended.

Tacko is clear!

(11-13-2015 10:33 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Tacko is clear!

Guess he didn't get any 3's on his AP tests.

NCAA clears UCF center Tacko Fall to play

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/uc...story.html

(11-13-2015 08:16 AM)KnightsFan5912 Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 01:24 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 08:30 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:53 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:43 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  This, at least in the state of Florida, is actually pretty common with private schools (excluding ACT). The reason is that the class work is typically more challenging than in public schools. So many private schools are hesitant to release student standing and average GPA information since a side by side comparison looking at just numbers could be biased in favor of the public school (easier classwork - higher GPA, more challenging classwork - lower GPA).

AP coursework is challenging everywhere. If a kid takes AP in a public school it is normally to the same standard as that of private school. If Tacko was in AP courses... and he passed the AP tests for college credit then he'd almost surely get the waiver.

BTW... UCF is super lenient with the credits they give out for AP courses.

What the heck does that mean? I took AP courses and had to pass the same standards on testing as everyone else who went to Florida Ohio State etc.

Apparently you don't remember that AP tests aren't pass fail. You're graded on a 1-5 scale. All I'm saying is that UCF (and apparently all of the public schools in Florida) accept lower AP scores for college credit. Where you might have to get a 4 to get a semester of English at Tulsa or Tulane, you'd only need a 3 at UCF.

Once again, it's not a big deal just an observation.

Both UCF and Tulsa require 3's, 4's or 5's depending on the course.

http://admission.utulsa.edu/academic-opp...nt-credit/

http://catalog.ucf.edu/policies/accelera...ortunities

Next time do 30 seconds worth of research.

Thank you. When I took them the higher the score the more you could Clep as well. I believe for calculus I had to get a four. This was in 1998 so it may be dated. All of the schools I mentioned were the same and they are aau etc.

(11-13-2015 10:20 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 08:16 AM)KnightsFan5912 Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 01:24 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(11-12-2015 08:30 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 05:53 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  AP coursework is challenging everywhere. If a kid takes AP in a public school it is normally to the same standard as that of private school. If Tacko was in AP courses... and he passed the AP tests for college credit then he'd almost surely get the waiver.

BTW... UCF is super lenient with the credits they give out for AP courses.

What the heck does that mean? I took AP courses and had to pass the same standards on testing as everyone else who went to Florida Ohio State etc.

Apparently you don't remember that AP tests aren't pass fail. You're graded on a 1-5 scale. All I'm saying is that UCF (and apparently all of the public schools in Florida) accept lower AP scores for college credit. Where you might have to get a 4 to get a semester of English at Tulsa or Tulane, you'd only need a 3 at UCF.

Once again, it's not a big deal just an observation.

Both UCF and Tulsa require 3's, 4's or 5's depending on the course.

http://admission.utulsa.edu/academic-opp...nt-credit/

http://catalog.ucf.edu/policies/accelera...ortunities

Next time do 30 seconds worth of research.

I already looked at both those pages you A$$Hat. That's why I mentioned the scores. Because, in several categories UCF gives credit for lower scores. Next time, read a post without getting offended.

Don't make blanket posts and you won't have that problem.