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Anybody else impressed with Coach Keatts and staff? To me, he's done a 180 with the program. The program is now winning and he's getting really good players. They are signing early and he has a system that works. Everybody knows their role and works hard or they don't play. That's all that you want as a coach. The guard coming that's coming in next year is VERY talented and the new big kid looks to be a good fit for the system as he can run and shoot with size. Heck, the walkons on this team are very good players as well. Players navigate to coaches that can coach and he can. He's a keeper and I hope that he sticks around after he wins a championship. That's lofty expectations, but the bar has been raised big time by him. They are going to hunt pretty soon, it may not this year with all the youth, but they should be looking to be the favorite after this year with all the returning talent and the phenom combo guard coming in. Go Hawks!!
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10-16-2015 11:29 PM
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Word on the street is tickets will be hard to get this year. Season ticket sales are strong
10-17-2015 12:14 AM
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Everyone is impressed with Coach Keatts but Mullet.
10-17-2015 11:04 AM
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He won last year and I give him some credit for that but I was also a Moss fan after he did the same thing.Moss got good players early and things looked very promising as I recall.Not saying the same thing will happen but I have seen some warning signs.
10-19-2015 10:02 AM
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Get off my lawn.
10-19-2015 10:51 AM
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(10-19-2015 10:02 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  He won last year and I give him some credit for that but I was also a Moss fan after he did the same thing.Moss got good players early and things looked very promising as I recall.Not saying the same thing will happen but I have seen some warning signs.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Keatts actually showed he could coach last year. Moss inherited a group of guys he could roll the ball out and let play.
10-19-2015 11:58 AM
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Keatts brings with him a system that is proven to work. As a mid-major, we need something to make us different. Full court pressure, seeking turnovers and baskets in transition works. What he proved last year is that he could take a team that had no record of winning, and win. Benny took a group of players used to winning, and did okay.
10-19-2015 02:48 PM
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Keatts also had good players that were there when he got there and they were seniors. Moss had better players but the CAA was a nuch different league then.
I do like the style of play that Keatts is using and I think he will win. For the record-I said he would win last year as well. I think you just have to give it time and see if the guy can actually coach,recruit and develop talent. He looks like he can recruit and that is by far the most important part of coaching college basketball-IMO.
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(10-19-2015 10:02 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  He won last year and I give him some credit for that but I was also a Moss fan after he did the same thing.Moss got good players early and things looked very promising as I recall.Not saying the same thing will happen but I have seen some warning signs.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Keatts actually showed he could coach last year. Moss inherited a group of guys he could roll the ball out and let play.
10-19-2015 03:45 PM
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You take care of the giving him time part. I choose to be a real fan and go all in. Succeed or fail, I will support.
10-19-2015 03:57 PM
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Mullet, you're way off here. This is why:

Moss inherited a group that were winning consistently prior to him showing up. Once he started bringing in his players (players like Johnny freaking Wolf) winning was a distant memory. UNCW started resembling teams put on the court at D2 and D3 schools. It was hideous.

Keatts took over a program with players that were used to losing more than winning and never looked like a cohesive unit. He took a bunch of guys that hadn't sniffed the MIDDLE of the conference and turned them into immediate winners and a share of the conference regular season title.

Bottom line:

Moss took a winning program into the dumps.

Keatts so far turned a dumpster fire into middle-class home with a 2 car garage he's currently finishing the basement and adding some rooms.

Now stop comparing a coach that was up for national-level recognition to someone who ruined our program.
10-19-2015 06:31 PM
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To be fair to Moss, I do not think the ghost of Dean Smith could have won under the AD and Chancellor that Moss was forced to work under. Don't get me wrong, Coach Keatts is a MAJOR upgrade to our previous coaching regimes, but it was forces much greater than Benny Moss that took our program into the dumps
10-19-2015 10:37 PM
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Pretty easy call looking at the past and cherry picking. The point is that he has been here one year and had some talent to work with in a bad league. I thought he did a good job last season and has talent coming back.
Benny did a good his first season in a much different CAA and everybody was happy with him at the time. Tough to say that players are used to using-I also don't but that Benny ruined the program by himself.
(10-19-2015 06:31 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Mullet, you're way off here. This is why:

Moss inherited a group that were winning consistently prior to him showing up. Once he started bringing in his players (players like Johnny freaking Wolf) winning was a distant memory. UNCW started resembling teams put on the court at D2 and D3 schools. It was hideous.

Keatts took over a program with players that were used to losing more than winning and never looked like a cohesive unit. He took a bunch of guys that hadn't sniffed the MIDDLE of the conference and turned them into immediate winners and a share of the conference regular season title.

Bottom line:

Moss took a winning program into the dumps.

Keatts so far turned a dumpster fire into middle-class home with a 2 car garage he's currently finishing the basement and adding some rooms.

Now stop comparing a coach that was up for national-level recognition to someone who ruined our program.
10-19-2015 10:52 PM
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Sorry, but Benny was clueless and commanded zero respect from his players. He had no real game plan, and he had no eye for or the ability to recruit talent. Chad and Rendleman were the only recruits that were Div 1 quality. We were horrible, and getting blown out became an expectation.

The real downward spiral then came as the players failed miserably in the classroom. All this took place under his watch.
10-20-2015 05:31 AM
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I am not defending Moss but just simply saying he was not alone in the demise of UNCW basketball. Depaulo,Merhtens,Peterson and any assistant coach also had a hand in the failure.It was a joint effort and I am thinking that Depaulo might have even gotten some sick pleasure out of the deal. She was the main player in the deal in my mind but I don't give Moss or the other coaches a pass on it-at all. You can also add Bass to that list of characters.
10-20-2015 08:40 AM
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(10-19-2015 10:37 PM)solohawks Wrote:  To be fair to Moss, I do not think the ghost of Dean Smith could have won under the AD and Chancellor that Moss was forced to work under. Don't get me wrong, Coach Keatts is a MAJOR upgrade to our previous coaching regimes, but it was forces much greater than Benny Moss that took our program into the dumps

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10-20-2015 08:43 AM
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Looks like the mess at Louisville is real and another coach is most likely involved .Pitino could be forced out and if the coaches start talking who knows where it ends up.
Pretty much crickets here on this?
Come on,take the bait.
10-20-2015 01:35 PM
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So, you want to hold off on any declaration of Keatts being a successful coach, but you want to go ahead and throw him into the fire before knowing if he was involved at all. I, for one, will not take the bait.
10-20-2015 02:35 PM
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What's to discuss? I don't follow Louisville Basketball, and so far Keatts hasn't been mentioned. If his name is mentioned, then there will be something to discuss.
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Hopefully he is not involved but truth is stranger than fiction. I have always liked Pitino and his style of coaching and would be surprised if he knew it was going on but 4 years is a long time.
I can guarantee you that Keatts has been questioned about it and will be again.
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That is correct on the declaration as the next coming but not on throwing him under the bus.
If he had any knowledge at all about it he would be in the fire-so to speak.
(10-20-2015 02:35 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  So, you want to hold off on any declaration of Keatts being a successful coach, but you want to go ahead and throw him into the fire before knowing if he was involved at all. I, for one, will not take the bait.
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