(10-08-2015 06:03 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  what about ULA

would still need a -L to be official

When on TV in the 99'-2000 athletic year ULA was used...a couple times LOU

(10-09-2015 12:47 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 12:22 AM)lcitsh Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 08:59 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 08:52 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  It's best for us all if we are in a conference with "Louisiana". Same as "Little Rock" is better than UALR.

That said, Cajun fans make it hard sometimes to want to do what they want even if its good for all.

If I tell someone in georgia we are playing Louisiana there next question will be "who? Do you mean LSU?" I disagree it is better for all. People know UL Layfette.

Wrong. They will know it's not LSU because LSU only uses LSU. You can disagree all you want, but people don't know any UL Layfette because there is no such team.

Since we're going to have this discussion, I've used Louisiana before in discussions with people. No one confused that with LSU, but several did assume I was talking about a D2 school. You guys have always been known nationally as UL-Lafayette. Most Sun Belt Athletic Offices still refuse to call you Louisiana (Arkansas State being one of those)

Right now, its a battle you are making significant progress in, but you are still years away from taking care of.

It amazes me, I've seen several Sun Belt Athletic offices quickly change out UALR for "Little Rock" in the last month, yet still see "ULL" or "UL-Lafayette" on most of those same schedules. I'm not sure why everyone quickly jumped on the "Little Rock" bandwagon, but the same support just doesn't exist for you guys yet.

Regarding Little Rock; most likely because no one opposed it, or confused it with another institution. I like the change. Several major universities use the city name only, and it works; especially for larger cities. And in the case of Little Rock; it's unique.
The use of "Lafayette" alone as an identifier for the Cajuns has it's own difficulties. From a university perspective, it goes against what the university is striving to do (mission wise). UL@L is not a "local" masters type program. It's mission goes well beyond the limits of Lafayette or this region alone (aka, Acadiana). It is a Major university in the state, and the 2nd largest. So it was time to break out of it's own shadow when the name change was started (loooooonnng ago!)
Obviously using Lafayette also is confusing with the school in Indiana (you know, the one with spots - - Leopard spots). I prefer to not even try to count how many times their logo was place next to our name reporting scores, etc.
I think (my opinion only) the desire to use Louisiana (and I'm not bitching about the formal name here) has nothing to do with any "elitism", but more a brand to show we are far more than the little school IN Lafayette now - - it's something we have "outgrown" with a much broader university mission.
Happy Friday!

getting to the NCAA dance doesn't do anything for perception.

softball doesn't do anything for brand recognition.

super regionals is great, but to the average fan, does nothing for perception and brand.

you guy have had the bowl wins, yes. But you have also had zero OOC fbs wins against a team with a winning schedule in the regular season, and no wins against P5 opponents.

You want to be known as "Louisiana" to the general public? Win a big OOC game, and do it consistently.

Me having to explain to someone in Georgia who ULL is isn't going to change the branding and image of ULL.

(10-09-2015 07:38 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  At least Louisiana Tech fans know who ULL is since they have made ULL their b1tches in football.

Tech fans know who we are regardless of name. We've only been playing each other for 100+ years! Sadly for us, they have been the better football team about 60-65% of the time!

(10-09-2015 07:52 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  getting to the NCAA dance doesn't do anything for perception.

softball doesn't do anything for brand recognition.

super regionals is great, but to the average fan, does nothing for perception and brand.

you guy have had the bowl wins, yes. But you have also had zero OOC fbs wins against a team with a winning schedule in the regular season, and no wins against P5 opponents.

You want to be known as "Louisiana" to the general public? Win a big OOC game, and do it consistently.

Me having to explain to someone in Georgia who ULL is isn't going to change the branding and image of ULL.

There is only ONE reason the school is not "Louisiana" today, and it has NOTHING to do with football, or athletics in general. Purely politics in the state. One thing every other fan of ever school "other than LSU" can agree upon. The "flagship" must be protected at all costs. No challengers allowed!

(10-09-2015 07:57 AM)Shof Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 07:52 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  getting to the NCAA dance doesn't do anything for perception.

softball doesn't do anything for brand recognition.

super regionals is great, but to the average fan, does nothing for perception and brand.

you guy have had the bowl wins, yes. But you have also had zero OOC fbs wins against a team with a winning schedule in the regular season, and no wins against P5 opponents.

You want to be known as "Louisiana" to the general public? Win a big OOC game, and do it consistently.

Me having to explain to someone in Georgia who ULL is isn't going to change the branding and image of ULL.

There is only ONE reason the school is not "Louisiana" today, and it has NOTHING to do with football, or athletics in general. Purely politics in the state. One thing every other fan of ever school "other than LSU" can agree upon. The "flagship" must be protected at all costs. No challengers allowed!

I understand that. My response was based on the post that aid that us telling the casual fan that you guys are Lousisiana and not ULL will somehow be good for the conference.

(10-09-2015 07:52 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  getting to the NCAA dance doesn't do anything for perception.

softball doesn't do anything for brand recognition.

super regionals is great, but to the average fan, does nothing for perception and brand.

you guy have had the bowl wins, yes. But you have also had zero OOC fbs wins against a team with a winning schedule in the regular season, and no wins against P5 opponents.

You want to be known as "Louisiana" to the general public? Win a big OOC game, and do it consistently.

Me having to explain to someone in Georgia who ULL is isn't going to change the branding and image of ULL.

I'm not worried about douche bag Larry on your bowling team... If anyone claims to be a "casual" college sports fan and doesn't know us... They aren't a casual sports fan. They go to people's watch parties for free food and cheer when football team scores baskets. Biggest misconception, who are these casual people? And if you have to explain everything to the, you think I give a phuq about them recognizing us? Just what exactly has Georgia southern done for the sbc perception? Besides a couple moral victories? If you watch college sports, you know who the phuq we are.

(10-09-2015 08:14 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 07:52 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  getting to the NCAA dance doesn't do anything for perception.

softball doesn't do anything for brand recognition.

super regionals is great, but to the average fan, does nothing for perception and brand.

you guy have had the bowl wins, yes. But you have also had zero OOC fbs wins against a team with a winning schedule in the regular season, and no wins against P5 opponents.

You want to be known as "Louisiana" to the general public? Win a big OOC game, and do it consistently.

Me having to explain to someone in Georgia who ULL is isn't going to change the branding and image of ULL.

I'm not worried about douche bag Larry on your bowling team... If anyone claims to be a "casual" college sports fan and doesn't know us... They aren't a casual sports fan. They go to people's watch parties for free food and cheer when football team scores baskets. Biggest misconception, who are these casual people? And if you have to explain everything to the, you think I give a phuq about them recognizing us? Just what exactly has Georgia southern done for the sbc perception? Besides a couple moral victories? If you watch college sports, you know who the phuq we are.

Ignorance is bliss.

What has GS done for SBC perception? We probably hurt it, along with App, because now the talk is how two FCS teams are running the conference now.

(10-09-2015 08:18 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:14 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 07:52 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  getting to the NCAA dance doesn't do anything for perception.

softball doesn't do anything for brand recognition.

super regionals is great, but to the average fan, does nothing for perception and brand.

you guy have had the bowl wins, yes. But you have also had zero OOC fbs wins against a team with a winning schedule in the regular season, and no wins against P5 opponents.

You want to be known as "Louisiana" to the general public? Win a big OOC game, and do it consistently.

Me having to explain to someone in Georgia who ULL is isn't going to change the branding and image of ULL.

I'm not worried about douche bag Larry on your bowling team... If anyone claims to be a "casual" college sports fan and doesn't know us... They aren't a casual sports fan. They go to people's watch parties for free food and cheer when football team scores baskets. Biggest misconception, who are these casual people? And if you have to explain everything to the, you think I give a phuq about them recognizing us? Just what exactly has Georgia southern done for the sbc perception? Besides a couple moral victories? If you watch college sports, you know who the phuq we are.

Ignorance is bliss.

What has GS done for SBC perception? We probably hurt it, along with App, because now the talk is how two FCS teams are running the conference now.

Almost beating Georgia tech is that what you bring? Almost bearing nc state? We didn't come from national championships, we didn't have money, we had a president who publicly wanted to kill athletics and did so by cutting all funding. Now what we did do as fans is pony up enough money to pay a coach a million a year, and are halfway through a 115 million faculty upgrade... All on private donations. We have the most historic basketball program in the conference, a national power in softball and arguably, certainly currently best baseball. Oh and we beat Nevada, Ecu, sdsu and Tulane in our bowl games. Now that doesn't appear as glorious as your 2 amazing moral victories in football but I'll stick to what I said... If you are a supposed fan of college sports and you dont know, you don't watch college sports.

(10-09-2015 08:25 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:18 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:14 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 07:52 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  getting to the NCAA dance doesn't do anything for perception.

softball doesn't do anything for brand recognition.

super regionals is great, but to the average fan, does nothing for perception and brand.

you guy have had the bowl wins, yes. But you have also had zero OOC fbs wins against a team with a winning schedule in the regular season, and no wins against P5 opponents.

You want to be known as "Louisiana" to the general public? Win a big OOC game, and do it consistently.

Me having to explain to someone in Georgia who ULL is isn't going to change the branding and image of ULL.

I'm not worried about douche bag Larry on your bowling team... If anyone claims to be a "casual" college sports fan and doesn't know us... They aren't a casual sports fan. They go to people's watch parties for free food and cheer when football team scores baskets. Biggest misconception, who are these casual people? And if you have to explain everything to the, you think I give a phuq about them recognizing us? Just what exactly has Georgia southern done for the sbc perception? Besides a couple moral victories? If you watch college sports, you know who the phuq we are.

Ignorance is bliss.

What has GS done for SBC perception? We probably hurt it, along with App, because now the talk is how two FCS teams are running the conference now.

Almost beating Georgia tech is that what you bring? Almost bearing nc state? We didn't come from national championships, we didn't have money, we had a president who publicly wanted to kill athletics and did so by cutting all funding. Now what we did do as fans is pony up enough money to pay a coach a million a year, and are halfway through a 115 million faculty upgrade... All on private donations. We have the most historic basketball program in the conference, a national power in softball and arguably, certainly currently best baseball. Oh and we beat Nevada, Ecu, sdsu and Tulane in our bowl games. Now that doesn't appear as glorious as your 2 amazing moral victories in football but I'll stick to what I said... If you are a supposed fan of college sports and you dont know, you don't watch college sports.

Who the hell brought that up???

(10-09-2015 08:31 AM)sidslidkid Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:25 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:18 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:14 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 07:52 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  getting to the NCAA dance doesn't do anything for perception.

softball doesn't do anything for brand recognition.

super regionals is great, but to the average fan, does nothing for perception and brand.

you guy have had the bowl wins, yes. But you have also had zero OOC fbs wins against a team with a winning schedule in the regular season, and no wins against P5 opponents.

You want to be known as "Louisiana" to the general public? Win a big OOC game, and do it consistently.

Me having to explain to someone in Georgia who ULL is isn't going to change the branding and image of ULL.

I'm not worried about douche bag Larry on your bowling team... If anyone claims to be a "casual" college sports fan and doesn't know us... They aren't a casual sports fan. They go to people's watch parties for free food and cheer when football team scores baskets. Biggest misconception, who are these casual people? And if you have to explain everything to the, you think I give a phuq about them recognizing us? Just what exactly has Georgia southern done for the sbc perception? Besides a couple moral victories? If you watch college sports, you know who the phuq we are.

Ignorance is bliss.

What has GS done for SBC perception? We probably hurt it, along with App, because now the talk is how two FCS teams are running the conference now.

Almost beating Georgia tech is that what you bring? Almost bearing nc state? We didn't come from national championships, we didn't have money, we had a president who publicly wanted to kill athletics and did so by cutting all funding. Now what we did do as fans is pony up enough money to pay a coach a million a year, and are halfway through a 115 million faculty upgrade... All on private donations. We have the most historic basketball program in the conference, a national power in softball and arguably, certainly currently best baseball. Oh and we beat Nevada, Ecu, sdsu and Tulane in our bowl games. Now that doesn't appear as glorious as your 2 amazing moral victories in football but I'll stick to what I said... If you are a supposed fan of college sports and you dont know, you don't watch college sports.

Who the hell brought that up???

Read it all and follow along, you can do it

I keep trying to appease the Cajuns by writing out their full, proper name that they're so in love with, but I still can't find the damn chili pepper key on my keyboard.

(10-09-2015 08:31 AM)sidslidkid Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:25 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:18 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:14 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 07:52 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  getting to the NCAA dance doesn't do anything for perception.

softball doesn't do anything for brand recognition.

super regionals is great, but to the average fan, does nothing for perception and brand.

you guy have had the bowl wins, yes. But you have also had zero OOC fbs wins against a team with a winning schedule in the regular season, and no wins against P5 opponents.

You want to be known as "Louisiana" to the general public? Win a big OOC game, and do it consistently.

Me having to explain to someone in Georgia who ULL is isn't going to change the branding and image of ULL.

I'm not worried about douche bag Larry on your bowling team... If anyone claims to be a "casual" college sports fan and doesn't know us... They aren't a casual sports fan. They go to people's watch parties for free food and cheer when football team scores baskets. Biggest misconception, who are these casual people? And if you have to explain everything to the, you think I give a phuq about them recognizing us? Just what exactly has Georgia southern done for the sbc perception? Besides a couple moral victories? If you watch college sports, you know who the phuq we are.

Ignorance is bliss.

What has GS done for SBC perception? We probably hurt it, along with App, because now the talk is how two FCS teams are running the conference now.

Almost beating Georgia tech is that what you bring? Almost bearing nc state? We didn't come from national championships, we didn't have money, we had a president who publicly wanted to kill athletics and did so by cutting all funding. Now what we did do as fans is pony up enough money to pay a coach a million a year, and are halfway through a 115 million faculty upgrade... All on private donations. We have the most historic basketball program in the conference, a national power in softball and arguably, certainly currently best baseball. Oh and we beat Nevada, Ecu, sdsu and Tulane in our bowl games. Now that doesn't appear as glorious as your 2 amazing moral victories in football but I'll stick to what I said... If you are a supposed fan of college sports and you dont know, you don't watch college sports.

Who the hell brought that up???

nobody.

He is using that because he has nothing else to argue with.

We could talk about all of their great OOC wins against P5 opponents in the last 4 years.

(10-09-2015 07:38 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 07:35 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 06:25 AM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 12:22 AM)lcitsh Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 08:59 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  If I tell someone in georgia we are playing Louisiana there next question will be "who? Do you mean LSU?" I disagree it is better for all. People know UL Layfette.

Wrong. They will know it's not LSU because LSU only uses LSU. You can disagree all you want, but people don't know any UL Layfette because there is no such team.

Notice the question mark after the word LSU. That's my point, people will ask me if I mean LSU b/c as you said Louisiana is not to be confused with LSU. However, you are mistaken if you think people outside of the Cajuns region will recognize the name. Someone above said it will take time, that is true and I will attempt to educate people going forward. I apologize if anyone on here thinks I'm discussing this in order to be combative, that is not my intent.

Then correct them or inform them, wether they know who Louisiana is or not does not change the fact that perception wise it helps everyone to be in a conference with Louisana and ULM instead of Lou-laf and Lou-Mon. If you are honest with yourself you will see that.

it would help everyone in the conference if ULM and ULL won more. Telling the average fan what you guys want to be called won't do squat.

At least Louisiana Tech fans know who ULL is since they have made ULL their b1tches in football.

To me it seems so busch league to correct casual fans.

"Who are y'all playing this weekend?"

"Louisiana"

"Who?"

"You know, Louisiana Lafayette, the Ragin Cajuns. They're not technically called Louisiana, but they really want to be. So you should call them that."

I guess we'll start branding ourselves as Georgia University.

(10-09-2015 08:37 AM)FLEagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 07:38 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 07:35 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 06:25 AM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 12:22 AM)lcitsh Wrote:  Wrong. They will know it's not LSU because LSU only uses LSU. You can disagree all you want, but people don't know any UL Layfette because there is no such team.

Notice the question mark after the word LSU. That's my point, people will ask me if I mean LSU b/c as you said Louisiana is not to be confused with LSU. However, you are mistaken if you think people outside of the Cajuns region will recognize the name. Someone above said it will take time, that is true and I will attempt to educate people going forward. I apologize if anyone on here thinks I'm discussing this in order to be combative, that is not my intent.

Then correct them or inform them, wether they know who Louisiana is or not does not change the fact that perception wise it helps everyone to be in a conference with Louisana and ULM instead of Lou-laf and Lou-Mon. If you are honest with yourself you will see that.

it would help everyone in the conference if ULM and ULL won more. Telling the average fan what you guys want to be called won't do squat.

At least Louisiana Tech fans know who ULL is since they have made ULL their b1tches in football.

To me it seems so busch league to correct casual fans.

"Who are y'all playing this weekend?"

"Louisiana"

"Who?"

"You know, Louisiana Lafayette, the Ragin Cajuns. They're not technically called Louisiana, but they really want to be. So you should call them that."

I guess we'll start branding ourselves as Georgia University.

Except we are called that, jerseys, scoreboard, end zones, fan apparel...just as Minnesota is technically university of Minnesota twin cities and the list doesn't stop. If you can brand yourself as Georgia university id be all for it...id rather be associated with schools don't don't sound like satellite campuses.

(10-09-2015 08:34 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:31 AM)sidslidkid Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:25 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:18 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:14 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  I'm not worried about douche bag Larry on your bowling team... If anyone claims to be a "casual" college sports fan and doesn't know us... They aren't a casual sports fan. They go to people's watch parties for free food and cheer when football team scores baskets. Biggest misconception, who are these casual people? And if you have to explain everything to the, you think I give a phuq about them recognizing us? Just what exactly has Georgia southern done for the sbc perception? Besides a couple moral victories? If you watch college sports, you know who the phuq we are.

Ignorance is bliss.

What has GS done for SBC perception? We probably hurt it, along with App, because now the talk is how two FCS teams are running the conference now.

Almost beating Georgia tech is that what you bring? Almost bearing nc state? We didn't come from national championships, we didn't have money, we had a president who publicly wanted to kill athletics and did so by cutting all funding. Now what we did do as fans is pony up enough money to pay a coach a million a year, and are halfway through a 115 million faculty upgrade... All on private donations. We have the most historic basketball program in the conference, a national power in softball and arguably, certainly currently best baseball. Oh and we beat Nevada, Ecu, sdsu and Tulane in our bowl games. Now that doesn't appear as glorious as your 2 amazing moral victories in football but I'll stick to what I said... If you are a supposed fan of college sports and you dont know, you don't watch college sports.

Who the hell brought that up???

nobody.

He is using that because he has nothing else to argue with.

We could talk about all of their great OOC wins against P5 opponents in the last 4 years.

You used perception and recognition 5 times in your post... Who brought it up? Since being in the sunbelt you have had moral victories just like we have.

I said it once on here but it is worth repeating. If there was ever a school that needed to get out of a conference its UL. It's not just fun ribbing as you guy lay in the weeds to jump on their athletic name at any given chance. Instead of pulling on the same side of the rope in this conference, everyone tries to run each other down and my guess is is that if UL finally got national recognition then the fear here is they might leave. Nobody here ******* about Troy State, Southwest Texas State, Southwest Missouri State or that Arkansas State used to be a high school of some sorts. However mention Louisiana and it's like the apocalypse has arrived. It seems to me that you would rather have a "Louisiana" in a conference than an abbreviation school. The funny part is LSU, who is the one that created this mess, has the Sun Belt schools carry its water for them in regards to fighting the name. It's downright sad.

(10-09-2015 08:44 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:34 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:31 AM)sidslidkid Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:25 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:18 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  Ignorance is bliss.

What has GS done for SBC perception? We probably hurt it, along with App, because now the talk is how two FCS teams are running the conference now.

Almost beating Georgia tech is that what you bring? Almost bearing nc state? We didn't come from national championships, we didn't have money, we had a president who publicly wanted to kill athletics and did so by cutting all funding. Now what we did do as fans is pony up enough money to pay a coach a million a year, and are halfway through a 115 million faculty upgrade... All on private donations. We have the most historic basketball program in the conference, a national power in softball and arguably, certainly currently best baseball. Oh and we beat Nevada, Ecu, sdsu and Tulane in our bowl games. Now that doesn't appear as glorious as your 2 amazing moral victories in football but I'll stick to what I said... If you are a supposed fan of college sports and you dont know, you don't watch college sports.

Who the hell brought that up???

nobody.

He is using that because he has nothing else to argue with.

We could talk about all of their great OOC wins against P5 opponents in the last 4 years.

You used perception and recognition 5 times in your post... Who brought it up? Since being in the sunbelt you have had moral victories just like we have.

except I wasn't talking about ga southern. we were talking about ULL

(10-09-2015 08:42 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 08:37 AM)FLEagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 07:38 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 07:35 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-09-2015 06:25 AM)SBEagle Wrote:  Notice the question mark after the word LSU. That's my point, people will ask me if I mean LSU b/c as you said Louisiana is not to be confused with LSU. However, you are mistaken if you think people outside of the Cajuns region will recognize the name. Someone above said it will take time, that is true and I will attempt to educate people going forward. I apologize if anyone on here thinks I'm discussing this in order to be combative, that is not my intent.

Then correct them or inform them, wether they know who Louisiana is or not does not change the fact that perception wise it helps everyone to be in a conference with Louisana and ULM instead of Lou-laf and Lou-Mon. If you are honest with yourself you will see that.

it would help everyone in the conference if ULM and ULL won more. Telling the average fan what you guys want to be called won't do squat.

At least Louisiana Tech fans know who ULL is since they have made ULL their b1tches in football.

To me it seems so busch league to correct casual fans.

"Who are y'all playing this weekend?"

"Louisiana"

"Who?"

"You know, Louisiana Lafayette, the Ragin Cajuns. They're not technically called Louisiana, but they really want to be. So you should call them that."

I guess we'll start branding ourselves as Georgia University.

Except we are called that, jerseys, scoreboard, end zones, fan apparel...just as Minnesota is technically university of Minnesota twin cities and the list doesn't stop. If you can brand yourself as Georgia university id be all for it...id rather be associated with schools don't don't sound like satellite campuses.

Come on now. I know you really want to stick it to Georgia Southern fans, but now you're grasping. If we were a satellite campus we'd be called "Universit of Georgia at Statesboro."

Listen, I sympathize with y'all's cause. Just don't be surprised when people called you ULL for clarity's sake