Up 8 From Last Week 30 W. Kentucky 6-1 31.72 203 43.93 Cusa 4-0

31 Texas Tech 5-2 31.65 103 50.86 Big12 2-2
Up 30 From Last WeekUp 30 From Last Week 32 Utah St. 4-2 30.88 53 55.28 Mwest 3-0
Down 21 From Last WeekDown 21 From Last Week 33 Mississippi 5-2 30.64 47 55.48 Sec 2-1
Up 14 From Last WeekUp 14 From Last Week 34 Oregon 3-3 28.86 19 59.54 Pac12 1-2
Up 11 From Last WeekUp 11 From Last Week 35 Navy 4-1 28.65 70 54.18 Aac 2

Up 11 From Last Week 36 Marshall 6-1 27.99 191 44.64 Cusa 3-0


http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...kings.html

Congratulations to (33) Marshall, (36) Western Kentucky, (71)Louisiana Tech, and (88) Middle Tennessee State for not having any FCS schools ranked ahead of them. A few others I couldn't find.

I don't think we are ahead of WKU or LaTech are we?

(10-18-2015 06:23 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  I don't think we are ahead of WKU or LaTech are we?

That's what it was when I looked at it. Looks like it changes frequently.

Someone explain to me how WKU's strength of schedule is listed at 203? That tells me 64 FCS teams have played stronger schedule?

Vandy and Indiana aren't holding value. Miami (OH) is not good. We should get a nice SOS bump after LSU.

(10-18-2015 07:59 PM)Franko Wrote:  Someone explain to me how WKU's strength of schedule is listed at 203? That tells me 64 FCS teams have played stronger schedule?

Yeah all that crap talked about Marshall's SOS and yours is lower than ours. Whodathunkit.

(10-18-2015 09:05 PM)galojah Wrote:  Vandy and Indiana aren't holding value. Miami (OH) is not good. We should get a nice SOS bump after LSU.

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Galojah, I understand that but 203? Marshall is 190 by the way. Look at Coastal Carolina for example. Theirs is listed at 187. Look who they have played.
Furman
South Carolina State
Western Illinois
Bryant
Alabama A&M
Presybyterian
Not even one FCS program?
Their highest ranked opponent is Western Illinois at 137 and our lowest ranked opponent is North Texas at 148. What am I missing?

Good question. Maybe NT is really hurting us

(10-19-2015 05:19 AM)Franko Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 09:05 PM)galojah Wrote:  Vandy and Indiana aren't holding value. Miami (OH) is not good. We should get a nice SOS bump after LSU.

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Galojah, I understand that but 203? Marshall is 190 by the way. Look at Coastal Carolina for example. Theirs is listed at 187. Look who they have played.
Furman
South Carolina State
Western Illinois
Bryant
Alabama A&M
Presybyterian
Not even one FCS program?
Their highest ranked opponent is Western Illinois at 137 and our lowest ranked opponent is North Texas at 148. What am I missing?

Any rating that compares a FCS schedule with a full FBS and looks at it as even with all teams on the same level...is not worth looking at. Any person that can answer your question without saying it's totally ridiculous to compare the two and tries to give a answer to ...why and uses another FBS school's as that why.

Should not even be talking football if they believe a fcs school with a 2-4 record should be treated the same as a 2-4 FBS school

It's obvious that the ranking is counting records on the same level. Other wise playing a Bryant who is 6-1 (I don't know or care about their real record) as more valuable than Tech at 4-3 or Vandy 2-4. And it's also looking at who Bryant has played and their record.

Take Marshall playing Norfolk their 2-4 record is treated the same as Vandy's 2-4. The SOS goes another step and treats Norfolk's opponents the same as Vandy's opponents so Hampton's 5-2 record is treated the same as UGA's 5-2 or Miss 5-2

RPI/SOS does not look at names/divisions only think that matters id D1 and W/L % matters ...The Strength Of Schedule (SOS) as measured by RPI is given by 2/3 times a team's opponents' winning percentage plus 1/3 times their opponents' opponents' winning percentage.

A team's RPI is a sum of three values: 25% of the team's winning percentage, 50% of its opponents' average winning percentage (strength of schedule), and 25% of its opponents' opponents' average winning percentage (opponents' strength of schedule). Only results against teams which are in NCAA Division I are counted in all of these winning percentages.

FCS is considered D1 to the NCAA so the RPI treats us all the same on the site linked in the first post

Franko you see where I'm coming from and I believe you think this too

RPI is rather ridiculous for football. You need larger sample sizes of data for it to become useful. That said, Warren Nolan has a formula that he uses close to NCAA in basketball with a small variation he calls the Nolan Power Index. If I ever look at football for a rating its this one. It doesn't include the I-AA teams, which frankly is even more ridiculous to combine both divisions in the same rating. There simply isn't enough games played across the divisions to warrant it.

Western is #24 with a SOS at 116
Marshall is #30 - 105

http://warrennolan.com/football/2015/con...ence%20USA

(10-19-2015 12:21 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 07:59 PM)Franko Wrote:  Someone explain to me how WKU's strength of schedule is listed at 203? That tells me 64 FCS teams have played stronger schedule?

Yeah all that crap talked about Marshall's SOS and yours is lower than ours. Whodathunkit.

Yea until this week when you play North Texas and we play LSU...

But Warren Nolan totally removes FCS schools from consideration on your SOS ...

I think you have to include every game and I like the way this site does it

SOS
Strength of Schedule; a rating of strength of schedule. The rating is denominated in points above/below average, where zero is average. Non-major opponents are included as a single team in the ratings.

Western is 115 a drop of about 40 spots after playing UNT
Marshall is 122
MUTS 73
Tech 93
S. Miss 112
Rice 103
FIU 127

(10-19-2015 05:19 AM)Franko Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 09:05 PM)galojah Wrote:  Vandy and Indiana aren't holding value. Miami (OH) is not good. We should get a nice SOS bump after LSU.

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Galojah, I understand that but 203? Marshall is 190 by the way. Look at Coastal Carolina for example. Theirs is listed at 187. Look who they have played.
Furman
South Carolina State
Western Illinois
Bryant
Alabama A&M
Presybyterian
Not even one FCS program?
Their highest ranked opponent is Western Illinois at 137 and our lowest ranked opponent is North Texas at 148. What am I missing?

Well to me this very example with why I throw out RPI's sos rankings, its bunk. No way no how should an FCS school's strength of schedule be higher than ANY FBS school. Even if they played 3 FBS out of conference, there are 9 games left that should drop the sos off the face of the earth when averaging it out. There are very very few FCS schools who could break even playing a full blown FBS schedule.

(10-19-2015 08:03 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(10-19-2015 12:21 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 07:59 PM)Franko Wrote:  Someone explain to me how WKU's strength of schedule is listed at 203? That tells me 64 FCS teams have played stronger schedule?

Yeah all that crap talked about Marshall's SOS and yours is lower than ours. Whodathunkit.

Yea until this week when you play North Texas and we play LSU...

Good point. But we can't be blamed for NT being on our schedule anymore than you can.