Because that is what was posted before and it gives you a better overview:

61 Georgia Southern
68 Appalachian State
87 Arkansas State
99 South Alabama
108 ULM
110 ULL
111 Texas State
116 Troy
120 Idaho
125 Georgia State
128 New Mexico State

http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

For those that have been evaluating how all the teams performed this past week, Arkansas State, Texas State, South Alabama and Idaho all improved their rankings, Georgia Southern stayed the same and everyone else lost ground from week 4.

(10-05-2015 02:18 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  For those that have been evaluating how all the teams performed this past week, Arkansas State, Texas State, South Alabama and Idaho all improved their rankings, Georgia Southern stayed the same and everyone else lost ground from week 4.

SI - I have an off topic question. As a Texas fan do you believe Strong will get another season in Austin?

GS #10 in the G5,
App #12 if I counted right.

San Diegoe St 2-3 #97

South Alabama 3-2 #99

And we beat them on their field.

These rankings=garbage

But I am glad that we broke the top #100.

damn you, NMSU!

(10-05-2015 02:55 PM)Usajags Wrote:  San Diegoe St 2-3 #97

South Alabama 3-2 #99

And we beat them on their field.

These rankings=garbage

But I am glad that we broke the top #100.

No really, this site gives you an overview.

I normally don't look at their composite rankings until Wednesday to make sure all the sites have updated from the previous week.

I expect when all is said and done at the end of the year A-State should be in the 60's, and maybe the 50's on Massey Composite, beyond that I don't know.

(10-05-2015 02:24 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  SI - I have an off topic question. As a Texas fan do you believe Strong will get another season in Austin?

I know I wasn't the one asked, but I live in Texas so I've been paying a little attention. I'd guess yes for a few reasons, they have an interim A.D. right now and I think they'll hire a new one and give Charlie one year to coach for his job. If they fire him after two years that's going to scare off a lot of the big name coaches. He also has $15 million left on his contract and even for Texas that's not chump change.

IMO if they give him a chance Strong will be fine, just not sure they will.

Right now recruiting is not where it needs to be but that will come with him or without him.

Granted TCU is a very powerful team right now. But still, getting prison-raped by the Frogs is just not something that UT's donors can tolerate. Barring a total meltdown, I think Strong gets another year, for a variety of reasons. But he is on the thinnest of ice right now.

It sounds like he has lost his locker room. Players tweeting about transferring, upperclassmen arguing with freshman on social media.

Like I said I normally don't look at the Massey Composite rankings until Wednesday to give them time to get updated data, and there were some changes:

60 (up 1)Georgia Southern
67 (up 1) Appalachian State
87 Arkansas State
99 South Alabama
108 ULM
112 (down 2) ULL
110 (up 1) Texas State
116 Troy
119 (up 1) Idaho
125 Georgia State
128 New Mexico State

Normally you can began to separate the 'real' season from the 'imaginary' season created on sites like this. Think the only thing that stands out to me is that at this point there are no quality teams, and even the top half of the sbc is only decent at best.........at this point. Hopefully that will change going forward.

There is some signs of separation by the top 2-3 but still not sure who the next two are.

Had A-State not lost their qb so early in he season they would have beaten Missouri (and should have anyway), and would probably be ahead of GaSo, and AppSt at this point. That should change with his return, and I do expect them to be favored in all their remaining games (that includes AppSt), but can't say they win all of them. They should win all their home games but AppSt, USA and ULM will test them on the road (I know some of you think AppSt is better than them but they are not, and in fact they are more talented than any team remaining on their schedule).

I don't know about more talented than App or GS, first of all, this is the same App team last year that went down to A-State and dominated the game from start to finish, I watched that game, Apps talent was as good, or better at many positions, and they had their all world qb playing that game. As far as a favorite in the App game, you obviously haven't been to a game in Boone, we are very, very tough to beat us at home, if we make it to that game without anymore losses, (going to be a challenge with GS and ULM waiting for us), or even just one loss to one of those teams, we still will be favored in the A-State game. Not saying they cant beat us, should be a really close game, first to admit A-State is a quality team, that if we don't play our best, A-State certainly can win the game, but your comment about them having superior talent, na,, ain't buying it.

As far as talent i don't think A-State has the most talented roster in the SBC I know it. That's all i get paid to know, and my predictions are based ONLY on talent, and are macro not micro predictions. I have them at 8 wins +/- 1 so I do expect them to be beaten by teams with less talent, because those teams may be better teams (talent is roughly 80% of winning, and yes where the game is played is a big part of that final 20%).

IMO AppSt and GaSo or better teams right now, but at some point i expect their coaches to finally figure it out, and to be able to utilize their talent advantage to their advantage, if not they will continue to lose to teams they have a talent advantage over. It is that simple.

As far as their game with AppSt last year, listening to their HC, fans, media and players after the USA win, they were ALL celebrating their impending 9 win season, and fully expected to blow AppSt out. They then jumped on top early, shifted into cruse, fell behind , then made a mad dash at the end but it was two late, and they lost to a team they should have beaten easily.

When they went down and fell to a even worse TxSt, their coaches quickly went into damage control, attributing their loss to AppSt, and TxSt to injuries to the DL, but the fact is they should have outscored both , and the reason they did not is the inconsistent play from their qb, and their oc simply was in over his head, and that carried over to this year, but think their HC is now intervening.

(10-07-2015 07:28 AM)moehler Wrote:  I don't know about more talented than App or GS, first of all, this is the same App team last year that went down to A-State and dominated the game from start to finish, I watched that game, Apps talent was as good, or better at many positions, and they had their all world qb playing that game. As far as a favorite in the App game, you obviously haven't been to a game in Boone, we are very, very tough to beat us at home, if we make it to that game without anymore losses, (going to be a challenge with GS and ULM waiting for us), or even just one loss to one of those teams, we still will be favored in the A-State game. Not saying they cant beat us, should be a really close game, first to admit A-State is a quality team, that if we don't play our best, A-State certainly can win the game, but your comment about them having superior talent, na,, ain't buying it.

Superior talent is debatable, but I believe our coaching staff is much better and our players are much tougher as a result. As long as Blake as at the helm at ASU, they will continue to be soft and injury plagued. They can use injuries as an excuse, but that is who they are, soft and injury prone.

Also wanted to add that a couple of other things might bode well for A-State.

They appear to be backing off doing some of the stupid things that hurt, more than helped last year(you know the things a coordinator might want to do but a hc is smart enough not to do, well last year they did not have that hc), and maybe more importantly after spending the off-season trying to mold their qb into something he is not, their hc said this week they are just going to let him be what he is.

This staff has been a little slow getting going, and A-State fans rightly have cause for being concerned about all the penalties, and turnovers, but IMO they appear to be making some progress...........finally.

(10-07-2015 08:17 AM)APPrising Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 07:28 AM)moehler Wrote:  I don't know about more talented than App or GS, first of all, this is the same App team last year that went down to A-State and dominated the game from start to finish, I watched that game, Apps talent was as good, or better at many positions, and they had their all world qb playing that game. As far as a favorite in the App game, you obviously haven't been to a game in Boone, we are very, very tough to beat us at home, if we make it to that game without anymore losses, (going to be a challenge with GS and ULM waiting for us), or even just one loss to one of those teams, we still will be favored in the A-State game. Not saying they cant beat us, should be a really close game, first to admit A-State is a quality team, that if we don't play our best, A-State certainly can win the game, but your comment about them having superior talent, na,, ain't buying it.

Superior talent is debatable, but I believe our coaching staff is much better and our players are much tougher as a result. As long as Blake as at the helm at ASU, they will continue to be soft and injury plagued. They can use injuries as an excuse, but that is who they are, soft and injury prone.

I think that all the coaching changes have hurt their player off-season development, and I think even their coaches would agree with you, but they are working hard to correct that.

I don't like that 'superior' talent label.

I simply know they have the most talented 'roster of players in the sbc (but may have the worse qbs, or rbs or whatever,and that impacts their performance), but that is normally enough to predict an overall record.

Too many other factors go into who will have the best 2-deep on any Saturday, and that is not even taking into account that at most positions a 2* upperclassman will probably be as good, if not better better, than a younger 3 star.

we will have to just disagree about the talent, I still don't understand your take on last years game, Astate should have won easily? Really? App from the mid first quarter to the mid 4th dominated that game, wasn't lucky breaks, or turnovers, our overall talent was every bit, if not better in alot positions than A-States, the only reason the final score was relatively close, was a combination of App pulling the starters too early in the 4th, and the worst Special teams in the entire FBS, which I believe gave up back to back onside kicks very late in the game. honestly I guess this is a mote point, your going to say A-State overlooked App and played flat, I'm saying App's talent was just as good or better in a lot of positions.

(10-07-2015 09:01 AM)moehler Wrote:  we will have to just disagree about the talent, I still don't understand your take on last years game, Astate should have won easily? Really? App from the mid first quarter to the mid 4th dominated that game, wasn't lucky breaks, or turnovers, our overall talent was every bit, if not better in alot positions than A-States, the only reason the final score was relatively close, was a combination of App pulling the starters too early in the 4th, and the worst Special teams in the entire FBS, which I believe gave up back to back onside kicks very late in the game. honestly I guess this is a mote point, your going to say A-State overlooked App and played flat, I'm saying App's talent was just as good or better in a lot of positions.

App State was a transition team and therefore does not, and could ever have, the talent as the almighty AState, period....you should know better.

With all due respect to Seminole Indian and what he is "paid to know", there is simply not sufficient data available to "know" the talent on these teams. I'm sure he has made an evaluate of available data and formed an opinion, but that is all that it is....an opinion. App has a history of taking athletes recruited with zero to no "stars" (by the services) and putting them into the NFL. I know "know" how we will stack up against Ark. State this year, but I simply don't believe that they will beat us "easily" even if they manage to get all their Red Wolves in a row. I expect it to be a "rip snorter" of a game and I'm glad that I'll get to see it in person.

Regarding last year's game, Ark State "came charging back" only when App went into a prevent defense. (Have I mentioned that I HATE prevent defense)? IMOP, the game last year was not actually as close as the score indicates.

Bottom line is that last year is in the books. This is a new year. The fact that App beat UL and stAte last year has ZERO impact on this year other than possible motivation to the teams. Ark State and UL have under-performed this year and I'm sure they are disappointed. App and GS aren't sneaking up on anybody this year. It's going to be a fun season of SBC football! Screw the OOC games! It's just getting started!