The below graph is a compilation of the NPI conference ratings from this morning in a bar graph form. This shows how the AAC has separated itself from the other G4 conferences, and is much closer to a P5 status than a G5 status.



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Outstanding visual. It really demonstrates seperation and how good the current year has gone so far.

Sorry if you have to squint your eyes to find the MWC.

(10-03-2015 09:40 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Sorry if you have to squint your eyes to find the MWC.

Bwahaha

Yep no doubt about it; the AAC is the tweener league that Aresco has always stated that it was. The AAC is as close to the #3 P5 (PAC 12) as the number 2 G5 (MAC) is to the AAC.

Very nice!

But,but, Conf USA was the better league last year and their programs have way more potential than ours. Our schools have hit their peak don't you know.

We are separating ourselves now because most of our programs have a history of winning and have been willing to spend money on athletics when necessary.

Once our Florida schools right the ship we are going to separate ourselves even further.

Wonder if MWC is kicking themselves for giving Boise the sweet heart deal that they did. That league is falling behind at a fast an alarming clip.

(10-03-2015 10:05 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  But,but, Conf USA was the better league last year and their programs have way more potential than ours. Our schools have hit their peak don't you know.

We are separating ourselves now because most of our programs have a history of winning and have been willing to spend money on athletics when necessary.

Once our Florida schools right the ship we are going to separate ourselves even further.

Wonder if MWC is kicking themselves for giving Boise the sweet heart deal that they did. That league is falling behind at a fast an alarming clip.

Assuming UCF and USF return to the norm and schools like Memphis maintain momentum, then the separation between the ACC and the AAC will be slim to none.

(10-03-2015 10:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:05 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  But,but, Conf USA was the better league last year and their programs have way more potential than ours. Our schools have hit their peak don't you know.

We are separating ourselves now because most of our programs have a history of winning and have been willing to spend money on athletics when necessary.

Once our Florida schools right the ship we are going to separate ourselves even further.

Wonder if MWC is kicking themselves for giving Boise the sweet heart deal that they did. That league is falling behind at a fast an alarming clip.

Assuming UCF and USF return to the norm and schools like Memphis maintain momentum, then the separation between the ACC and the AAC will be slim to none.

Maybe in power rankings. But as long as the ACC has a flagship program like FSU and we have a bunch of directional schools the perception gap will remain Grand Canyon sized.

(10-03-2015 10:26 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:05 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  But,but, Conf USA was the better league last year and their programs have way more potential than ours. Our schools have hit their peak don't you know.

We are separating ourselves now because most of our programs have a history of winning and have been willing to spend money on athletics when necessary.

Once our Florida schools right the ship we are going to separate ourselves even further.

Wonder if MWC is kicking themselves for giving Boise the sweet heart deal that they did. That league is falling behind at a fast an alarming clip.

Assuming UCF and USF return to the norm and schools like Memphis maintain momentum, then the separation between the ACC and the AAC will be slim to none.

Maybe in power rankings. But as long as the ACC has a flagship program like FSU and we have a bunch of directional schools the perception gap will remain Grand Canyon sized.

But perception dies when teams keep improving. Ohio State and the Big Ten were perceived as the weakest P5 last year. Ohio State won the national title and the B10 being weak is not the perception anymore.

(10-03-2015 10:29 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:26 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:05 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  But,but, Conf USA was the better league last year and their programs have way more potential than ours. Our schools have hit their peak don't you know.

We are separating ourselves now because most of our programs have a history of winning and have been willing to spend money on athletics when necessary.

Once our Florida schools right the ship we are going to separate ourselves even further.

Wonder if MWC is kicking themselves for giving Boise the sweet heart deal that they did. That league is falling behind at a fast an alarming clip.

Assuming UCF and USF return to the norm and schools like Memphis maintain momentum, then the separation between the ACC and the AAC will be slim to none.

Maybe in power rankings. But as long as the ACC has a flagship program like FSU and we have a bunch of directional schools the perception gap will remain Grand Canyon sized.

But perception dies when teams keep improving. Ohio State and the Big Ten were perceived as the weakest P5 last year. Ohio State won the national title and the B10 being weak is not the perception anymore.

Hate to burst your bubble of optimism but the Big East stood blow for blow with the other P5 conferences but was always viewed as a lesser product after the U left. General parity and lack of a flagship program killed us in perception even though the wins were there.

During the Cinci / Miami game, the announcers were not only talking about the top G5 teams for the access bowl, they were talking about Memphis' shot at the playoffs if they go undefeated. Let that sink in for a moment. Something that's supposed to be inconceivable is at least conceivable at this point.

Perception gets changed when the AAC plays and win some big games on ESPN. The last two weeks, that has happened.

Both of the announcers picked undefeated Miami to beat Cinci , and proceeded to watch Miami get drilled by Cinci. Thats how you change perception.

(10-03-2015 10:26 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:05 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  But,but, Conf USA was the better league last year and their programs have way more potential than ours. Our schools have hit their peak don't you know.

We are separating ourselves now because most of our programs have a history of winning and have been willing to spend money on athletics when necessary.

Once our Florida schools right the ship we are going to separate ourselves even further.

Wonder if MWC is kicking themselves for giving Boise the sweet heart deal that they did. That league is falling behind at a fast an alarming clip.

Assuming UCF and USF return to the norm and schools like Memphis maintain momentum, then the separation between the ACC and the AAC will be slim to none.

Maybe in power rankings. But as long as the ACC has a flagship program like FSU and we have a bunch of directional schools the perception gap will remain Grand Canyon sized.

I have noticed over the course of my years that over a period of time reality (like power rankings) tends to trump perception. There is resistance to changing perception to fit reality, but when it occurs it takes place at a fast pace.

The key, IMO, is consistent positive metrics for around three years.

I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.

(10-03-2015 04:21 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  I am confused, that Quo fellow told us that the AAC was "just another G5 conference". Looks like power ratings and TV exposure tell a different story.

Quo's having a tough year. His team USF has been down. I think he's kind of giving up on college football....cheers!

The mwc is about to go 0-3in ooc today. Their 2nd best team is getting killed by navy. They are also losing badly to a sunbelt team, and San Jose st is making auburn look halfway decent.

(10-03-2015 04:36 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The mwc is about to go 0-3in ooc today. Their 2nd best team is getting killed by navy. They are also losing badly to a sunbelt team, and San Jose st is making auburn look halfway decent.

This conference sucked last year and the MWC looked pretty good. I think we're getting a little "Mission Accomplished" here.

(10-03-2015 04:39 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 04:36 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The mwc is about to go 0-3in ooc today. Their 2nd best team is getting killed by navy. They are also losing badly to a sunbelt team, and San Jose st is making auburn look halfway decent.

This conference sucked last year and the MWC looked pretty good. I think we're getting a little "Mission Accomplished" here.

I was never concerned. Over time bigger budgets, better facilities, and better recruiting grounds win out. The MW loses on most all of those criteria. Boise is an anomaly. We may end up with a hf dozen Boise level programs in the AAC before its all said and done.

(10-03-2015 04:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 04:39 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 04:36 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The mwc is about to go 0-3in ooc today. Their 2nd best team is getting killed by navy. They are also losing badly to a sunbelt team, and San Jose st is making auburn look halfway decent.

This conference sucked last year and the MWC looked pretty good. I think we're getting a little "Mission Accomplished" here.

I was never concerned. Over time bigger budgets, better facilities, and better recruiting grounds win out. The MW loses on most all of those criteria. Boise is an anomaly. We may end up with a hf dozen Boise level programs in the AAC before its all said and done.

Boise is a big anomaly. I tend to agree that on the whole we are higher quality and have more potential.

(10-03-2015 10:34 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:29 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:26 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:19 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-03-2015 10:05 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  But,but, Conf USA was the better league last year and their programs have way more potential than ours. Our schools have hit their peak don't you know.

We are separating ourselves now because most of our programs have a history of winning and have been willing to spend money on athletics when necessary.

Once our Florida schools right the ship we are going to separate ourselves even further.

Wonder if MWC is kicking themselves for giving Boise the sweet heart deal that they did. That league is falling behind at a fast an alarming clip.

Assuming UCF and USF return to the norm and schools like Memphis maintain momentum, then the separation between the ACC and the AAC will be slim to none.

Maybe in power rankings. But as long as the ACC has a flagship program like FSU and we have a bunch of directional schools the perception gap will remain Grand Canyon sized.

But perception dies when teams keep improving. Ohio State and the Big Ten were perceived as the weakest P5 last year. Ohio State won the national title and the B10 being weak is not the perception anymore.

Hate to burst your bubble of optimism but the Big East stood blow for blow with the other P5 conferences but was always viewed as a lesser product after the U left. General parity and lack of a flagship program killed us in perception even though the wins were there.

Pitt did a lot of damage to your image too by beating WVU that year that you all were heading to National Title game.