(10-25-2015 11:11 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  Crawford is committed to the program. Why are we badmouthing him for that?

No one is criticizing Crawford. Great kid and fine player.
I hope the administration is as committed as Crawford and we will find out soon. Pulling the plug on this particular coach would prove that they are looking out for the best interests of the basketball program.

(10-25-2015 08:43 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:34 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:26 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:25 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 05:40 AM)batman Wrote:  You read Josh's comments in the CA story? He sounds like a defeated man saying he knows a lot of people don't want them to do well.

There are so many words that could be used to describe him. Some good. Some bad. But ultimately, the best word to describe him is delusional. He thinks he can rah rah and cliche his way to victory. Therefore he is delusional. He thinks we have been against him from the start. When in fact he had more support the first few years of his career than any coach I've ever seen here. Therefore he is delusional. He thinks we want the team, the team by which this city has identified for half a century, to lose. Therefore he is delusional. I feel sorry for him.

I think that pretty much says it all.

If you guys don't believe there's "fans" wanting the team to lose, you're not paying attention to what's posted on this board.

There's plenty of that.
To deny it, is to have your cake and eat it too.
As a Pastner "hater", you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
And, climate what it is, you figure to get little push back.

That's how bad it is.

What will be the comments on this board when a regular season game against sisters of the poor U looks like that "fan fest"?

I am very interested in the crowds this year. Reseating a couple of months ago was eye opening to say the least.

(10-25-2015 01:14 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:43 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:34 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:26 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:25 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  There are so many words that could be used to describe him. Some good. Some bad. But ultimately, the best word to describe him is delusional. He thinks he can rah rah and cliche his way to victory. Therefore he is delusional. He thinks we have been against him from the start. When in fact he had more support the first few years of his career than any coach I've ever seen here. Therefore he is delusional. He thinks we want the team, the team by which this city has identified for half a century, to lose. Therefore he is delusional. I feel sorry for him.

I think that pretty much says it all.

If you guys don't believe there's "fans" wanting the team to lose, you're not paying attention to what's posted on this board.

There's plenty of that.
To deny it, is to have your cake and eat it too.
As a Pastner "hater", you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
And, climate what it is, you figure to get little push back.

That's how bad it is.

What will be the comments on this board when a regular season game against sisters of the poor U looks like that "fan fest"?

I am very interested in the crowds this year. Reseating a couple of months ago was eye opening to say the least.

So, you saw the 9 empty seats?

KJ should have stopped after saying nobody had to show up instead of questioning fan's loyalty to the school. After all, we had to hire his daddy to get the services of him and his brothers.
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"It was not usual (or) what we're used to, but it was a great event," K.J. Lawson said. "A lot of people came out that's really (behind) the team. I thought it was really genuine. You had a lot of family, a lot of friends, a lot of people that's going to be in your corner the whole year, even when things go bad.

"I appreciate anybody that came out because I'm grateful for that, because nobody had to show up. You see the real fans that are out here and we're going to see the fans that are just fair-weather. You know who they are."




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But Keelon Lawson made it clear last week that if he were to get a job at a college outside of Memphis, then K.J. Lawson would almost certainly decommit and follow him to that school. "With loyalty to Josh, I would ask K.J., 'Would you want to stay [with Memphis] or would you want to go with me and Dedric?'" Keelon Lawson said. "But with us being a close-knit family, you know what the answer would be. He would say, 'Dad, I'm going with you.' So, of course, K.J. would go with me, and then Dedric, and then Chandler."

This is too ugly to contemplate. Gotta just turn it off and put everything into the season being successful. No other way out, around or through.

Exactly. The Lawsons did what they had to do, but don't talk to me about loyalty.

(10-24-2015 07:24 PM)F200 Tiger Wrote:  Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist or anything but, it's pretty obvious that part of the plan to make Memphis a "football school" involved insuring that basketball took a back seat. No other rational way to explain it. I don't think Pastner could win anyway but ... I think there have been talks to ease the fan base on the basketball team so they could more easily focus on the football team. I don't think anybody could have predicted to what extreme the football team would rise or to what extreme the basketball team could fall but I do think there was an intentional shift that began on Normal.

Please - enough with the conspiracy theories. People follow winners, plain and simple. Fuente started from about as low as you can go in D1 football and is now a winner and being nationally talked about. Pastner inherited a nationally-recognized winning program, great recruiting potential, and a great supporting fan base, and now the program has dwindled down to getting mostly JUCO's to fill the roster and nowhere to be found in the national media. I have supported and wanted Pastner to win from day 1 but those are just the facts to this point. I truly hope we have a really good season, go to the NCAA's, and get this program back on track but I'd be lying if I said I believed that will happen.

(08-29-2015 02:30 PM)HiltonHeadMemFan Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 02:27 PM)2tigers Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 01:55 PM)Smith Wrote:  "Prior to Memphis Madness/FanFest, the University of Memphis Athletic Department will hold its annual Select-A-Seat for those fans still wanting to purchase season tickets for the 2015-16 campaign. More details for the Select-A-Seat event will be announced later."

I like this part. Which one of you are giving up their tickets. I will be looking for a couple of good seats. Please post the seat numbers you're giving up and if they're good seats

I like this idea also. All the fans that say they are going to give up their tickets until Pastner is gone should post their section and seat numbers for those fans that have wanted to buy tickets for years. This way when the program is turned around with or without Pastner. We will have fans that really want to be true tiger fans of the program and not just when we are winning. Lets see how many of you will actually post your section and seat numbers. Go tigers.

I really enjoy when people that don't have tickets or give to the university like to tell me what it takes to be a good fan.

I have had tickets for 30 years an I have not missed many games since I moved here in 1958 and that has been for football also. I have already bought my BB tickets and donated for this year. So does this give permission to tell you that you might be a fair weathered fan because I really do enjoy being a true fan.

Good time was had by all!!!

You guys are going to do this after ever game, aren't you?

(10-25-2015 07:19 PM)fsquid Wrote:  You guys are going to do this after ever game, aren't you?

Yes. I'm thinking this place may not be for you

probably not, I'll come back in March when he's gone.

(10-25-2015 08:15 PM)fsquid Wrote:  probably not, I'll come back in March when he's gone.

Godspeed

(10-25-2015 04:26 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 07:24 PM)F200 Tiger Wrote:  Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist or anything but, it's pretty obvious that part of the plan to make Memphis a "football school" involved insuring that basketball took a back seat. No other rational way to explain it. I don't think Pastner could win anyway but ... I think there have been talks to ease the fan base on the basketball team so they could more easily focus on the football team. I don't think anybody could have predicted to what extreme the football team would rise or to what extreme the basketball team could fall but I do think there was an intentional shift that began on Normal.

Please - enough with the conspiracy theories. People follow winners, plain and simple. Fuente started from about as low as you can go in D1 football and is now a winner and being nationally talked about. Pastner inherited a nationally-recognized winning program, great recruiting potential, and a great supporting fan base, and now the program has dwindled down to getting mostly JUCO's to fill the roster and nowhere to be found in the national media. I have supported and wanted Pastner to win from day 1 but those are just the facts to this point. I truly hope we have a really good season, go to the NCAA's, and get this program back on track but I'd be lying if I said I believed that will happen.

Fuente has exceeded in exceeding expectations. Beyond that even. Many knew BEFORE Pastner got the extension that he was NOT a good coach. Some back in 2011.

(10-25-2015 01:30 AM)FUT Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 09:08 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 07:10 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 05:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(10-24-2015 04:17 PM)FUT Wrote:  Maybe one day memphis can be as cool as horn lake.

Expect such a comment from you since you cannot counter the facts.

Other than the "fact" minor league baseball attendance is low (shocking) in Memphis what other facts did you provide? Like i said, maybe one day Memphis will get rid of all the apathy and achieve the level of greatness horn lake has reached.

No major attendance drop in Sacramento. But nice try to divert the real subject. Memphians are apathetic in nature and follows the "in thing: until it's time has passed and then moves on. You have not provided anything except smartass remarks to counter that fact. Which for the most part is your M.O.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramen...Attendance

Thanks for playing.

Additionally they have been really good for the past decade. People like winners. Put a good product out there and Memphians will support it. Doesnt make us any different than almost every other city out there. Clearly the exception is horn lake.

since you no longer want to discuss this can we discuss the BS ending to that NASCAR race yesterday? Pissed me right off that Jr. got screwed like that.

(10-25-2015 01:27 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  KJ should have stopped after saying nobody had to show up instead of questioning fan's loyalty to the school. After all, we had to hire his daddy to get the services of him and his brothers.
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"It was not usual (or) what we're used to, but it was a great event," K.J. Lawson said. "A lot of people came out that's really (behind) the team. I thought it was really genuine. You had a lot of family, a lot of friends, a lot of people that's going to be in your corner the whole year, even when things go bad.

"I appreciate anybody that came out because I'm grateful for that, because nobody had to show up. You see the real fans that are out here and we're going to see the fans that are just fair-weather. You know who they are."




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But Keelon Lawson made it clear last week that if he were to get a job at a college outside of Memphis, then K.J. Lawson would almost certainly decommit and follow him to that school. "With loyalty to Josh, I would ask K.J., 'Would you want to stay [with Memphis] or would you want to go with me and Dedric?'" Keelon Lawson said. "But with us being a close-knit family, you know what the answer would be. He would say, 'Dad, I'm going with you.' So, of course, K.J. would go with me, and then Dedric, and then Chandler."

Did that hurt?

snicker

(10-25-2015 09:46 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 09:42 AM)Smith Wrote:  "I just think this year we're gonna surprise a lot of people because people are not expecting us to do the best," sophomore guard Markel Crawford said. "A couple people (transferred). Not the biggest team. Not the biggest names. But I just think when people see us play, they're gonna see how hard we go for that name across our jersey. It's going to be a big year for us."

You know who you are and so do the players.

Markel needs to worry about what he's doing and not about the fans. I was a fan 30 years before he was born and will be long after he transfers or graduates. Nichols pretty much made the same comments last year as did Nick King. It's simple. Most fans are tired of Josh Pastner. And THAT is why only 400 or so showed up yesterday. Not because of football, not because it wasn't publicized and not because of no rapper

At least you don't waiver on your opinions like some here. Going to be really easy to revisit some of these post at the end of the season.

(10-25-2015 11:11 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  Crawford is committed to the program. Why are we badmouthing him for that?

Its called Pastner hate spillover syndrome.

(10-26-2015 06:10 PM)Blue88 Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 11:11 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  Crawford is committed to the program. Why are we badmouthing him for that?

Its called Pastner hate spillover syndrome.

Nobody bad mouthed Crawford. He's committed to the program. Hopefully the administration will commit too and go in a different direction at seasons end.

Yes they did, as you continue to.