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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
(08-28-2015 02:34 PM)nickthequick Wrote:  I wonder if he found his 2 timeouts from the Northern game while cleaning out his desk

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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
(08-28-2015 02:34 PM)nickthequick Wrote:  I wonder if he found his 2 timeouts from the Northern game while cleaning out his desk

No, they're still in his back pocket.
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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
(08-28-2015 05:46 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Although Beckman did some good things at UT, like with academics, he never proved he could win a championship at the MAC level and wasn't ready for the Big 10. I don't blame him for taking the job, it was Illinois that was stupid.

I agree and I wish him well in his future endeavors. Maybe athletic directors will be more cautious when trying to catch a rising star.
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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
(08-29-2015 07:10 AM)Aries_Rocket Wrote:  
(08-28-2015 05:46 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Although Beckman did some good things at UT, like with academics, he never proved he could win a championship at the MAC level and wasn't ready for the Big 10. I don't blame him for taking the job, it was Illinois that was stupid.

I agree and I wish him well in his future endeavors. Maybe athletic directors will be more cautious when trying to catch a rising star.

Not to defend the Illinois athletic director who hired Beckman, but as I recall Beckman was about their 5th choice because the people ahead of him on their desired hiring list all declined the job because they correctly viewed it as a career killer.
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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
(08-28-2015 02:34 PM)nickthequick Wrote:  I wonder if he found his 2 timeouts from the Northern game while cleaning out his desk

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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
(08-28-2015 08:29 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  
(08-28-2015 05:46 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Although Beckman did some good things at UT, like with academics, he never proved he could win a championship at the MAC level and wasn't ready for the Big 10. I don't blame him for taking the job, it was Illinois that was stupid.

Only two coaches ever left UT and had success, Pinkel and Saban.

Very true. He should have stayed here a couple more years. He probably would have accomplished a lot and have been better prepared for the next opportunity.

Tough to win at Illinois, money isn't everything when he took the job. I didn't think he would have lasted much longer.
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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
My prediction: PJ Fleck to llinois next year, assuming that WMU has as good a season as expected.

Given that Beckman flamed out so badly, I think its safe to say they won't be looking at Toledo for his replacement.
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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
Fleck knows better. He will take Meyer's route. A decent tweener, the P5. Illinois will have a tougher time getting a new coach than they did last time.
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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
Beckman response: http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/...-statement

If he ends up suing, things could get ugly, and that might mean Toledo getting dragged along in the mud. I hope that doesn't happen.
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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
On the other hand, this is kinda funny: "The 7 most Tim Beckman things Tim Beckman did before Illinois fired him" http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...ball-coach
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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
Something that is don't quite understand about all this is that I somehow thought that it was the team's medical staff who had the final decision as to whether a player was or was not good to go, not the coach or the player but that appears not to be the case here.

Anybody know the rules about this and care to clarify them for me? Thanks.
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(08-30-2015 05:05 PM)T-Town Wrote:  Something that is don't quite understand about all this is that I somehow thought that it was the team's medical staff who had the final decision as to whether a player was or was not good to go, not the coach or the player but that appears not to be the case here.

Anybody know the rules about this and care to clarify them for me? Thanks.

Yes, but what the school is saying is that in the investigation Beckman essentially said that if players went to the medical staff without the coaches clearing it, their scholarships would be in jeopardy.
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There were many players that played here during the Beckman era that at a minimum dinged up, and some that most likely shouldn't have been playing. These kids want to play football and not lose their spot, they will play until they physically can't. Beckman's favorite statement was they were "steak eaters" when they were hurt or not starting and on scholarship. He threated to take away scholarships or promised to put people on scholarship and didn't. I really liked him as a person but as a coach he earned my respect then lost it very quickly. We are judged by our word and keeping it, he failed miserably. Sounds like the same thing went on at ILL. After reading the Chicago papers they quoted at least 3 Toledo players backing up what the Ill. players have said. At least from what I have seen Campbell seems legit and has kept his word, that alone is a big improvement.
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(08-31-2015 09:53 AM)Rocket79 Wrote:  There were many players that played here during the Beckman era that at a minimum dinged up, and some that most likely shouldn't have been playing. These kids want to play football and not lose their spot, they will play until they physically can't. Beckman's favorite statement was they were "steak eaters" when they were hurt or not starting and on scholarship. He threated to take away scholarships or promised to put people on scholarship and didn't. I really liked him as a person but as a coach he earned my respect then lost it very quickly. We are judged by our word and keeping it, he failed miserably. Sounds like the same thing went on at ILL. After reading the Chicago papers they quoted at least 3 Toledo players backing up what the Ill. players have said. At least from what I have seen Campbell seems legit and has kept his word, that alone is a big improvement.

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Eh, Campbell was on Beckman's staff. Since he got the head coach job, I'd presume he was pretty hands on member of Beckman's staff. If what is said about Beckman is true, is flows down to those that looked the other way or participated. Something wrong in my thinking there?

The chance that Toledo stays clear of this seems remote to me.
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(08-31-2015 11:31 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Eh, Campbell was on Beckman's staff. Since he got the head coach job, I'd presume he was pretty hands on member of Beckman's staff. If what is said about Beckman is true, is flows down to those that looked the other way or participated. Something wrong in my thinking there?

The chance that Toledo stays clear of this seems remote to me.

I've worked on plenty staffs where not everybody motivates/manages with the same style. Btw, most injured players you have to tell to stay off the field.
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RE: Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
(08-31-2015 11:31 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Eh, Campbell was on Beckman's staff. Since he got the head coach job, I'd presume he was pretty hands on member of Beckman's staff. If what is said about Beckman is true, is flows down to those that looked the other way or participated. Something wrong in my thinking there?

The chance that Toledo stays clear of this seems remote to me.

There was a major divide in the coaching staff Beckman's last year. Campbell about broke the press box window with his headset when Beckman didn't call time out in the NIU game. Just remember the seniors voted not to allow Beckman at the banquet. There would have been staff changes if Beckman would have stayed. It worked out in Toledo's favor when him and his group left.
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(08-31-2015 12:29 PM)Rocket79 Wrote:  
(08-31-2015 11:31 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Eh, Campbell was on Beckman's staff. Since he got the head coach job, I'd presume he was pretty hands on member of Beckman's staff. If what is said about Beckman is true, is flows down to those that looked the other way or participated. Something wrong in my thinking there?

The chance that Toledo stays clear of this seems remote to me.

There was a major divide in the coaching staff Beckman's last year. Campbell about broke the press box window with his headset when Beckman didn't call time out in the NIU game. Just remember the seniors voted not to allow Beckman at the banquet. There would have been staff changes if Beckman would have stayed. It worked out in Toledo's favor when him and his group left.

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Tim Beckman fired by Illinois
(08-28-2015 02:34 PM)nickthequick Wrote:  I wonder if he found his 2 timeouts from the Northern game while cleaning out his desk

Well played, sir! Gave me a chuckle
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What was going on at Illinois that led to Beckman's dismissal has now led to the firing of the Illinois athletic director.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...llegations
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