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I'm glad we are playing the schedule we are. The Admiral has a vision beyond the mediocre results this program has achieved for decades. Scheduling top notch competition is part of the process. Grab an oar.

Row the Boat

(08-29-2015 03:18 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  I'm glad we are playing the schedule we are. The Admiral has a vision beyond the mediocre results this program has achieved for decades. Scheduling top notch competition is part of the process. Grab an oar.

Row the Boat

Anybody can boast about lofty goals, and diminish those who came before them.

Imagine a snot nosed new employee joining your firm and droaning on about where he will take the company while belittling all that has come before him.

I expect 8+ wins because that's how he sold it.................until he started lowering expectations by trumpeting the process "as the real measure of results." Try telling your boss, "No, I didn't reach my sales goals, but I'd still like my bonus because I worked really hard during the process."

So now Fleck is the guy getting credit for the 3-1 with MSU and the OSU game?

(08-29-2015 03:41 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  So now Fleck is the guy getting credit for the 3-1 with MSU and the OSU game?

Not really, but don't worry, it's all just part of an ongoing process.

(08-29-2015 03:49 PM)Dirty Ernie Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 03:41 PM)rtletterman Wrote:  So now Fleck is the guy getting credit for the 3-1 with MSU and the OSU game?

Not really, but don't worry, it's all just part of an ongoing process.

Now days taking credit for other's work is part of the process too. It's prevalient.

(08-29-2015 03:32 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 03:18 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  I'm glad we are playing the schedule we are. The Admiral has a vision beyond the mediocre results this program has achieved for decades. Scheduling top notch competition is part of the process. Grab an oar.

Row the Boat

Anybody can boast about lofty goals, and diminish those who came before them.

Imagine a snot nosed new employee joining your firm and droaning on about where he will take the company while belittling all that has come before him.

I expect 8+ wins because that's how he sold it.................until he started lowering expectations by trumpeting the process "as the real measure of results." Try telling your boss, "No, I didn't reach my sales goals, but I'd still like my bonus because I worked really hard during the process."

One thing I can't get past: what came before him? A MAC title in 1988? What does he need to be paying homage to that he hasn't already? Should he have the team wear helmet stickers to honor the back-to-back losses to Marshall in the MAC title game? A patch to commemorate us not even showing up in the Texas Bowl? Please expand.

Some of the best companies out there were started by young, brazen, out-of-the box thinkers. Glad they didn't listen to the good old boys telling them how it was "back in their day".

He said he'd change them. Time to deliver on the words. Guess he figured that getting the top salary in the conference would lower the bar?

"Darn, this promising things and getting rewarded is good work, I'm going to talk my way around any kind of accountability and ask for raises during the PROCESS, they're such bumpkins they'll never catch on to me"

PJ needs to acknowledge our past. LOL!!!

(08-29-2015 04:12 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  PJ needs to acknowledge our past. LOL!!!

Peej needs to back up his talk.

You 'guys' act like you don't want him to succeed because he might leave you...behind.

I'd rather have the Admiral doing things unconventionally than gramps punching the clock and finishing in 3rd place again. Please....

He will back up his talk, and probably do it in less than 8 years

(08-29-2015 12:36 PM)Cucumber Salad Wrote:  My how the over exuberant speculation has now morphed into lowering the bar.

Please!

Who is lowering the bar? It's called being realistic about CURRENT expectations.

I never heard Fleck say we would win a MAC championship by the 2015 season.

I'm simply saying this isn't going to be "THE" year IMO. Personally, I'm expecting it to be next year. 2016 the stars (should) align. Next season is the year I expect Fleck and our student athletes to take our program to the next level.

(08-29-2015 04:15 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  I'd rather have the Admiral doing things unconventionally than gramps punching the clock and finishing in 3rd place again. Please....

But you like third place? That's just odd.

(08-29-2015 04:16 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  He will back up his talk, and probably do it in less than 8 years

I hope so, he was hired to do better, not the same. He talked the big game, now deliver. It's not that hard to understand, your abandonment fears notwithstanding.

Bill has P5 level boosters and administration this year. No excuses. Big10 champs.

Why do you change the subject from #brocoach to Bill?

Bill has turned around other's messes before, maybe they're counting on him to do that there?

As for here, Peej righted the mess he created. Now he should build on it, after all, he said that was his purpose. Now he's following a process to achieve his goals. No time better than now to deliver on the boasting.

What other profession can you last 8 years and be so mediocre?

(08-29-2015 04:18 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  Bill has P5 level boosters and administration this year. No excuses. Big10 champs.

If true it would the first time he has had any measurable alum and admin $ support.
To date Illinois hasn't shown any commitment in quite awhile.

(08-29-2015 04:24 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  What other profession can you last 8 years and be so mediocre?

What other profession can you basically fail, make a ton of promises and get a 40% raise?

(08-29-2015 04:24 PM)Cucumber Salad Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 04:18 PM)ChuckNorris Wrote:  Bill has P5 level boosters and administration this year. No excuses. Big10 champs.

If true it would the first time he has had any measurable alum and admin $ support.
To date Illinois hasn't shown any commitment in quite awhile.

Please don't annoy him with facts, he'll just change the subject anyway....