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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
EAST:
Cincinnati
UCF
Temple
USF (Not going to predict other teams records, but USF will go 7-5 or 6-6 and at least 2-2 OOC with a win over FAMU, Syracuse, and potentially Maryland.)
ECU
UConn
WEST:
Houston
Memphis
Navy
SMU (SMU is my surprise team to improve from West).
Tulane
Tulsa
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
(08-26-2015 12:14 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (08-26-2015 12:07 PM)TforTempleU Wrote: (08-26-2015 12:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (08-26-2015 11:56 AM)TforTempleU Wrote: (08-26-2015 11:49 AM)200yrs2late Wrote: Nope, see my previous explanation. I'm not knocking Temple at all, it's a much more reasonable statement than 'there are very few teams in the country "we" (Temple) can't compete with".
LOL really dude Navy and Memphis? Just an FYI last year we lost to Navy by a touchdown and Memphis by a last second field goal. On top of that VT and Miami (FL) are trash. I guess there's about 70 teams ECU wouldn't be able to compete with this year by your logic.
1. This isn't last year. 2. If it was last year, you're telling me that a 6-6 team can compete with the vast majority of division I football teams. That's just silly.
There very well may be a good 50 or more teams that ECU won't be able to compete with for a full game after today's loss, we will just have to see. Prior to Benkert's injury I would have put it at about 25-30 teams that would completely out-class ECU on the field.
Full starting defense returns, Robby Anderson returns, and much more experience and depth all around. If a team goes 6-6 and the next year returns almost all of their starters you wouldn't expect that team to get better? You do realize players gain strength, speed and experience in the off season right? Look at our schedule and explain to me where you see 6 losses.
There's no guarantee that every player will be better, or even as good as last year, not to mention potential injuries. What happens when you lose one or two of those starters?
As for losses, I've got Temple losing to Cincy, UCF, Memphis, and ECU in conference and Penn State and ND OOC. There's your 6 without any WTF games, and even with ECU's QB injury I still feel good about that game since it's a Thursday night game mid-season.
Aren't most ECU fans using the logic that their new starters this years are going to be as good or better than the players they lost?
Let's be honest here...the loss last year to Temple still stings and some off you just can't get over it.
(This post was last modified: 08-26-2015 01:42 PM by templefan1.)
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
(08-26-2015 01:40 PM)templefan1 Wrote: (08-26-2015 12:14 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (08-26-2015 12:07 PM)TforTempleU Wrote: (08-26-2015 12:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (08-26-2015 11:56 AM)TforTempleU Wrote: LOL really dude Navy and Memphis? Just an FYI last year we lost to Navy by a touchdown and Memphis by a last second field goal. On top of that VT and Miami (FL) are trash. I guess there's about 70 teams ECU wouldn't be able to compete with this year by your logic.
1. This isn't last year. 2. If it was last year, you're telling me that a 6-6 team can compete with the vast majority of division I football teams. That's just silly.
There very well may be a good 50 or more teams that ECU won't be able to compete with for a full game after today's loss, we will just have to see. Prior to Benkert's injury I would have put it at about 25-30 teams that would completely out-class ECU on the field.
Full starting defense returns, Robby Anderson returns, and much more experience and depth all around. If a team goes 6-6 and the next year returns almost all of their starters you wouldn't expect that team to get better? You do realize players gain strength, speed and experience in the off season right? Look at our schedule and explain to me where you see 6 losses.
There's no guarantee that every player will be better, or even as good as last year, not to mention potential injuries. What happens when you lose one or two of those starters?
As for losses, I've got Temple losing to Cincy, UCF, Memphis, and ECU in conference and Penn State and ND OOC. There's your 6 without any WTF games, and even with ECU's QB injury I still feel good about that game since it's a Thursday night game mid-season.
Aren't most ECU fans using the logic that their new starters this years are going to be as good or better than the players they lost?
Let's be honest here...the loss last year to Temple still stings and some off you just can't get over it.
Last year's debacle is last year's debacle. It was over as soon as the game was. I'd need to go back and look, but I don't recall many ECU fans here claiming Benkert was going to be as good as or better than Carden. Most were simply stating that the drop off won't be as bad as everybody pretty much believed. Now that Benkert is on the bench for the year, ECU may very well be scratching for a 6 or 7 win season.
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
I'll be in Greenville so the more meaningful the game the better.
I'm not totally drinking the Kool-Aid with Temple either but I do believe we have the talent and coaching to compete with 80-85% of college football right now. Still, actually beating Top 25-40 teams on a reasonably consistent basis has not happened. We failed to do it in the MAC and we haven't done it in the AAC. We've had some decent wins, Navy, UConn, ECU, but nothing that's going to stir the masses.
Our schedule is no joke; opener against PSU then road against Cincinnati, UCF then @ ECU on a short week, Notre Dame off their bye then two road games before Memphis at home. There are a lot of potential pitfalls along the way. I'm even nervous about UMass now that Whipple has gotten them headed in the right direction.
I think 7-5 may very well be in the cards with an outside shot at 8-4. 6-6 would not surprise me either. PJ Walker has to play better. There were times last year when he was truly terrible. Especially with his decision making. I went to the PSU game at Beaver Stadium and we had a chance until he finally gave it away with his numerous picks. The Tulane game was no better to finish the year.
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
(08-26-2015 02:02 PM)TUowl06 Wrote: I'll be in Greenville for the ECU game so the more meaningful the game the better.
I'm not totally drinking the Kool-Aid with Temple either but I do believe we have the talent and coaching to compete with 80-85% of college football right now. Still, actually beating Top 25-40 teams on a reasonably consistent basis has not happened. We failed to do it in the MAC and we haven't done it in the AAC. We've had some decent wins, Navy, UConn, ECU, but nothing that's going to stir the masses.
Our schedule is not joke, opener against PSU then road against Cincinnati, UCF then @ ECU on a short week, Notre Dame off their bye then two road games before Memphis at home. There are a lot of potential pitfalls along the way. I'm even nervous about UMass now that Whipple has gotten them headed in the right direction.
I think 7-5 may very well be in the cards with an outside shot at 8-4. 6-6 would not surprise me either. PJ Walker has to play better. There were times last year when he was truly terrible. Especially with his decision making. I went to the PSU game at Beaver Stadium and we had a chance until he finally gave it away with his numerous picks. The Tulane game was no better to finish the year.
Shoot me a message the week of the game. I'm taking Thursday off and probably Friday too. You're welcome at my tailgate.
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08-26-2015 02:20 PM |
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
Temple is this the same starting defense that ucf took to the woodshed last year? If so I'm not sure where all the hype is coming from. 8 wins would be a solid season for temple.
East
1. Ucf (2x defending champs)
2. Cinci
3. Temple
4. Ecu
5. Uconn
6. Usf
West
1. Houston
2. Navy
3. Memphis
4. Tulane
5. Tulsa
6. Smu
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
Facing UC at Nippert is a whole different animal than UC at paul brown. You guys last year got off easy. You guys this year will find this out soon enough. Nippert is a HECK of a home field advantage...something we didn't have last year at Paul Brown.
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
East
- Cincy (lives up to the hype, goes undefeated in regular season)
- Temple (returning experienced team)
- UCF (white bread middle of the road season)
- ECU (QB woes make for disappointing season)
- USF (HC is fired after this season)
- UCONN (Tire fire)
West
- Navy (Great first year for Navy, they go undefeated in regular season with close exicting win over Notre Dame, QB is in Hiesman conversation)
- Memphis (Not returning enough starters, too much turnover, but takes advantage of a weak division and the tiebreaker win over Tulane)
- Tulane (Biggest shocker of the year, suprising everyone except for those paying attention. Road losses in conference keep Tulane out of the championship conversation, but the most returning starters, and the strongest defense in conference allow them to overachieve this year. Look out 2016.)
- Houston (Growing pains with new coach. Look out 2016 as well).
- Tulsa (Tough times for Tulsa)
- SMU (Tire fire).
Championship game is undefeated Navy v Cincy. On ABC. Navy wins. Army/Navy game is a BFD with college gameday a madhouse. Navy has an outside shot at #4 in CFP depending on how the rest of FBS shakes out.
(This post was last modified: 08-27-2015 08:37 AM by Enviro5609.)
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
(08-26-2015 02:20 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: (08-26-2015 02:02 PM)TUowl06 Wrote: I'll be in Greenville for the ECU game so the more meaningful the game the better.
I'm not totally drinking the Kool-Aid with Temple either but I do believe we have the talent and coaching to compete with 80-85% of college football right now. Still, actually beating Top 25-40 teams on a reasonably consistent basis has not happened. We failed to do it in the MAC and we haven't done it in the AAC. We've had some decent wins, Navy, UConn, ECU, but nothing that's going to stir the masses.
Our schedule is not joke, opener against PSU then road against Cincinnati, UCF then @ ECU on a short week, Notre Dame off their bye then two road games before Memphis at home. There are a lot of potential pitfalls along the way. I'm even nervous about UMass now that Whipple has gotten them headed in the right direction.
I think 7-5 may very well be in the cards with an outside shot at 8-4. 6-6 would not surprise me either. PJ Walker has to play better. There were times last year when he was truly terrible. Especially with his decision making. I went to the PSU game at Beaver Stadium and we had a chance until he finally gave it away with his numerous picks. The Tulane game was no better to finish the year.
Shoot me a message the week of the game. I'm taking Thursday off and probably Friday too. You're welcome at my tailgate.
I'll be down by mid afternoon Thursday and then driving back Friday! I can't wait!
(This post was last modified: 08-27-2015 08:39 AM by TUowl06.)
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
East
1. Cincy
2. Temple
3. UCF
4. USF
5. Uconn
6. Ecu
West
1. Houston
2. Navy
3. Tulsa
4. Memphis
5. Tulane
6. Smu
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08-27-2015 10:23 AM |
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
(08-27-2015 08:34 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote: East
- Cincy (lives up to the hype, goes undefeated in regular season)
- Temple (returning experienced team)
- UCF (white bread middle of the road season)
- ECU (QB woes make for disappointing season)
- USF (HC is fired after this season)
- UCONN (Tire fire)
West
- Navy (Great first year for Navy, they go undefeated in regular season with close exicting win over Notre Dame, QB is in Hiesman conversation)
- Memphis (Not returning enough starters, too much turnover, but takes advantage of a weak division and the tiebreaker win over Tulane)
- Tulane (Biggest shocker of the year, suprising everyone except for those paying attention. Road losses in conference keep Tulane out of the championship conversation, but the most returning starters, and the strongest defense in conference allow them to overachieve this year. Look out 2016.)
- Houston (Growing pains with new coach. Look out 2016 as well).
- Tulsa (Tough times for Tulsa)
- SMU (Tire fire).
Championship game is undefeated Navy v Cincy. On ABC. Navy wins. Army/Navy game is a BFD with college gameday a madhouse. Navy has an outside shot at #4 in CFP depending on how the rest of FBS shakes out.
If Houston finishes 4th, expect UH fans to burn down TDECU
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
(08-27-2015 08:34 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote: East
- Cincy (lives up to the hype, goes undefeated in regular season)
- Temple (returning experienced team)
- UCF (white bread middle of the road season)
- ECU (QB woes make for disappointing season)
- USF (HC is fired after this season)
- UCONN (Tire fire)
West
- Navy (Great first year for Navy, they go undefeated in regular season with close exicting win over Notre Dame, QB is in Hiesman conversation)
- Memphis (Not returning enough starters, too much turnover, but takes advantage of a weak division and the tiebreaker win over Tulane)
- Tulane (Biggest shocker of the year, suprising everyone except for those paying attention. Road losses in conference keep Tulane out of the championship conversation, but the most returning starters, and the strongest defense in conference allow them to overachieve this year. Look out 2016.)
- Houston (Growing pains with new coach. Look out 2016 as well).
- Tulsa (Tough times for Tulsa)
- SMU (Tire fire).
Championship game is undefeated Navy v Cincy. On ABC. Navy wins. Army/Navy game is a BFD with college gameday a madhouse. Navy has an outside shot at #4 in CFP depending on how the rest of FBS shakes out.
Haha at a Tulane fan calling UConn a tire fire.
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
East
1. Cincy
2. Temple
3. UCF
4. USF
5. ECU
6. UCONN
West
1. Navy
2. Memphis
3. Houston
4. Tulsa
5. Tulane
6. SMU
If I wasn't a Tulsa fan I'd probably pick Tulane over Tulsa to be honest.
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
(08-27-2015 11:08 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote: (08-27-2015 08:34 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote: East
- Cincy (lives up to the hype, goes undefeated in regular season)
- Temple (returning experienced team)
- UCF (white bread middle of the road season)
- ECU (QB woes make for disappointing season)
- USF (HC is fired after this season)
- UCONN (Tire fire)
West
- Navy (Great first year for Navy, they go undefeated in regular season with close exicting win over Notre Dame, QB is in Hiesman conversation)
- Memphis (Not returning enough starters, too much turnover, but takes advantage of a weak division and the tiebreaker win over Tulane)
- Tulane (Biggest shocker of the year, suprising everyone except for those paying attention. Road losses in conference keep Tulane out of the championship conversation, but the most returning starters, and the strongest defense in conference allow them to overachieve this year. Look out 2016.)
- Houston (Growing pains with new coach. Look out 2016 as well).
- Tulsa (Tough times for Tulsa)
- SMU (Tire fire).
Championship game is undefeated Navy v Cincy. On ABC. Navy wins. Army/Navy game is a BFD with college gameday a madhouse. Navy has an outside shot at #4 in CFP depending on how the rest of FBS shakes out.
Haha at a Tulane fan calling UConn a tire fire.
Total non sequitur.
One has got nothing to do with the other. I could be a Furman fan and that wouldn't make UCONN any more or less of a tire fire.
Tulane looks improved this year. Their flaw last year was that the offense was entirely freshman. Any reputable pre-season review of the AAC agrees. The question is improved by how much?
Our offense was a bunch of 17-19 year old kids who had been on campus for a few weeks,and we still beat you. UCONN doesn't show any signs of improvement, and has way more "experience" as a team. Tulane has also never lost to an FCS school. Ever.
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
(08-27-2015 10:34 AM)AirRaid Wrote: (08-27-2015 08:34 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote: East
- Cincy (lives up to the hype, goes undefeated in regular season)
- Temple (returning experienced team)
- UCF (white bread middle of the road season)
- ECU (QB woes make for disappointing season)
- USF (HC is fired after this season)
- UCONN (Tire fire)
West
- Navy (Great first year for Navy, they go undefeated in regular season with close exicting win over Notre Dame, QB is in Hiesman conversation)
- Memphis (Not returning enough starters, too much turnover, but takes advantage of a weak division and the tiebreaker win over Tulane)
- Tulane (Biggest shocker of the year, suprising everyone except for those paying attention. Road losses in conference keep Tulane out of the championship conversation, but the most returning starters, and the strongest defense in conference allow them to overachieve this year. Look out 2016.)
- Houston (Growing pains with new coach. Look out 2016 as well).
- Tulsa (Tough times for Tulsa)
- SMU (Tire fire).
Championship game is undefeated Navy v Cincy. On ABC. Navy wins. Army/Navy game is a BFD with college gameday a madhouse. Navy has an outside shot at #4 in CFP depending on how the rest of FBS shakes out.
If Houston finishes 4th, expect UH fans to burn down TDECU
Or at least scratch off the name.
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
(08-27-2015 12:01 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote: East
1. Cincy
2. Temple
3. UCF
4. USF
5. ECU
6. UCONN
West
1. Navy
2. Memphis
3. Houston
4. Tulsa
5. Tulane
6. SMU
If I wasn't a Tulsa fan I'd probably pick Tulane over Tulsa to be honest.
If we finish below USF, we might as well quit football.
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(08-27-2015 03:23 PM)NBPirate Wrote: (08-27-2015 12:01 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote: East
1. Cincy
2. Temple
3. UCF
4. USF
5. ECU
6. UCONN
West
1. Navy
2. Memphis
3. Houston
4. Tulsa
5. Tulane
6. SMU
If I wasn't a Tulsa fan I'd probably pick Tulane over Tulsa to be honest.
If we finish below USF, we might as well quit football.
Haha Well it was a close pick. It's just my guess that USF might actually get their act together a little bit this year. I also believe UCF and ECU could be down a little more than people expect this year. Again just a guess. Really I think Temple, UCF, ECU, and USF could end up in about any order between #2 and #5.
And I wouldn't be too surprised if one of those four knocked off Cincy for the East title either. It could be a close race in the East.
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
East:
1:UC
2:UCF
3: Temple (almost there)
4: ECU (rebuilding)
5: USF
6: UConn
West:
1: Memphis (defense still stout and oh yeah, they return probably the number two offense in the AAC)
2: Navy (opponents not used to their style offense)
3: Houston (team learning under new staff)
4: Tulsa (slowly returning to old form)
5: Tulane (big 12 bound....sure they are...)
6: SMU ( good news is there is nowhere to go but up. See: Memphis- Larry Porter years)
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RE: Prediction of American finish 2015
(08-27-2015 04:53 PM)transitt Wrote: East:
1:UC
2:UCF
3: Temple (almost there)
4: ECU (rebuilding)
5: USF
6: UConn
West:
1: Memphis (defense still stout and oh yeah, they return probably the number two offense in the AAC)
2: Navy (opponents not used to their style offense)
3: Houston (team learning under new staff)
4: Tulsa (slowly returning to old form)
5: Tulane (big 12 bound....sure they are...)
6: SMU ( good news is there is nowhere to go but up. See: Memphis- Larry Porter years)
Actually, we return the #1 scoring offense in the conference and it's expected to be a lot better. The defense isn't gonna miss a beat. We lose a few players, but our 2nd and 3rd units got A LOT of game time last season and you really couldn't tell a difference. Our secondary is faster, our D-line and O-lines are bigger too.
My questions regarding the defense have nothing to do with the players themselves or the talent. I wanna see what we look like post Odom.
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