(08-22-2015 01:46 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 10:30 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 11:46 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 11:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 10:03 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  The distances between all the schools in the AAC southwest...are just about at their maximums. Hopefully, they can get some cohesion.

I almost think that the AAC should split in half and incorporate each half of CUSA. Both halves would look much more compact and competitive.

I believe you got the "almost think" part right. I suggest you give it a little more effort and really think. If you do you will see it wasn't a good idea. Lol.

Great response. A real brain teaser.

Instead of UofH, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa and Memphis playing...
UConn, Temple, ECU and USF(schools that have no connection with the southwest).....
they could play....
UTSA, UTEP, La Tech and Rice(schools that are relevant in this region).

What about that isn't up to your standards.
More fans, closer games, better competition.

First, I'm glad you took my message as intended without insult. The only advantage of your proposal is closer competition. If you look at the ages and histories of your proposed CUSA teams, other than proximity they share nothing in common with their more established proposed counterparts. Regional conferences have gone the way of the Dodo bird. If the AAC teams wish to remain relevant making more $ and have any chance for upward mobility your proposal would move them a step backward. You do realize those teams left CUSA to join the AAC for a reason don't you? What do you suppose that reason was?

This. UCONN travels more than anyone else in this conference, but the current members of the AAC are who we want to associate with (if P5 membership isn't in the cards). I think just about every AAC school (AD/President/fan-base) feels the same way.

I can totally understand why UConn wants to be associated with all the schools in the southern half of the conference(specifically). There is a boat load of recruiting in Ok, Tx, Fl, La and Ark/Tn.
If, I was UConn....I would never want to let that go unless I was guaranteed an equal region to recruit.

But, for the schools in the southern half of the AAC(with all due respect to these institutions).....what do they get for either: (a) traveling to Temple or UConn or (b) hosting these schools?
The southern schools fans probably aren't traveling to support their schools that far away. And when Temple or UConn come to the southern schools....how many or those schools fans travel this far south?

If you split the AAC in half....and added the CUSA schools to each region to get to 12 in each conference. Then, there would be much better travel and regional support. Plus attendance would improve. And still....the AAC schools should be winning both conferences. So, that there is now 2 bids for the AAC schools....one from each conference(assuming the cusa schools would always be on the bottom of each conf).

Just for example:

North Conference:
Div 1: UConn, Temple, ECU, Cincy , UMass, Marshall,
Div 2: Navy, Army, UNCC, ODU, W. Ky, M. Tn.

South Conference:
Div 1: UofH, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, La Tech, S. Miss
Div 2: Rice, N. Texas, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, USF

Subs can be made for any of the CUSA schools if one doesn't fit well. But, the basic idea would or should help to bring a bit better regional support. And still the AAC schools should win both these conferences...or, at least have the best shot.

(08-22-2015 08:59 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 01:46 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 10:30 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 11:46 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 11:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  I believe you got the "almost think" part right. I suggest you give it a little more effort and really think. If you do you will see it wasn't a good idea. Lol.

Great response. A real brain teaser.

Instead of UofH, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa and Memphis playing...
UConn, Temple, ECU and USF(schools that have no connection with the southwest).....
they could play....
UTSA, UTEP, La Tech and Rice(schools that are relevant in this region).

What about that isn't up to your standards.
More fans, closer games, better competition.

First, I'm glad you took my message as intended without insult. The only advantage of your proposal is closer competition. If you look at the ages and histories of your proposed CUSA teams, other than proximity they share nothing in common with their more established proposed counterparts. Regional conferences have gone the way of the Dodo bird. If the AAC teams wish to remain relevant making more $ and have any chance for upward mobility your proposal would move them a step backward. You do realize those teams left CUSA to join the AAC for a reason don't you? What do you suppose that reason was?

This. UCONN travels more than anyone else in this conference, but the current members of the AAC are who we want to associate with (if P5 membership isn't in the cards). I think just about every AAC school (AD/President/fan-base) feels the same way.

I can totally understand why UConn wants to be associated with all the schools in the southern half of the conference(specifically). There is a boat load of recruiting in Ok, Tx, Fl, La and Ark/Tn.
If, I was UConn....I would never want to let that go unless I was guaranteed an equal region to recruit.

But, for the schools in the southern half of the AAC(with all due respect to these institutions).....what do they get for either: (a) traveling to Temple or UConn or (b) hosting these schools?
The southern schools fans probably aren't traveling to support their schools that far away. And when Temple or UConn come to the southern schools....how many or those schools fans travel this far south?

If you split the AAC in half....and added the CUSA schools to each region to get to 12 in each conference. Then, there would be much better travel and regional support. Plus attendance would improve. And still....the AAC schools should be winning both conferences. So, that there is now 2 bids for the AAC schools....one from each conference(assuming the cusa schools would always be on the bottom of each conf).

Just for example:

North Conference:
Div 1: UConn, Temple, ECU, Cincy , UMass, Marshall,
Div 2: Navy, Army, UNCC, ODU, W. Ky, M. Tn.

South Conference:
Div 1: UofH, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, La Tech, S. Miss
Div 2: Rice, N. Texas, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, USF

Subs can be made for any of the CUSA schools if one doesn't fit well. But, the basic idea would or should help to bring a bit better regional support. And still the AAC schools should win both these conferences...or, at least have the best shot.

lol gawd no

(08-22-2015 08:59 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 01:46 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 10:30 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 11:46 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 11:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  I believe you got the "almost think" part right. I suggest you give it a little more effort and really think. If you do you will see it wasn't a good idea. Lol.

Great response. A real brain teaser.

Instead of UofH, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa and Memphis playing...
UConn, Temple, ECU and USF(schools that have no connection with the southwest).....
they could play....
UTSA, UTEP, La Tech and Rice(schools that are relevant in this region).

What about that isn't up to your standards.
More fans, closer games, better competition.

First, I'm glad you took my message as intended without insult. The only advantage of your proposal is closer competition. If you look at the ages and histories of your proposed CUSA teams, other than proximity they share nothing in common with their more established proposed counterparts. Regional conferences have gone the way of the Dodo bird. If the AAC teams wish to remain relevant making more $ and have any chance for upward mobility your proposal would move them a step backward. You do realize those teams left CUSA to join the AAC for a reason don't you? What do you suppose that reason was?

This. UCONN travels more than anyone else in this conference, but the current members of the AAC are who we want to associate with (if P5 membership isn't in the cards). I think just about every AAC school (AD/President/fan-base) feels the same way.

I can totally understand why UConn wants to be associated with all the schools in the southern half of the conference(specifically). There is a boat load of recruiting in Ok, Tx, Fl, La and Ark/Tn.
If, I was UConn....I would never want to let that go unless I was guaranteed an equal region to recruit.

But, for the schools in the southern half of the AAC(with all due respect to these institutions).....what do they get for either: (a) traveling to Temple or UConn or (b) hosting these schools?
The southern schools fans probably aren't traveling to support their schools that far away. And when Temple or UConn come to the southern schools....how many or those schools fans travel this far south?

If you split the AAC in half....and added the CUSA schools to each region to get to 12 in each conference. Then, there would be much better travel and regional support. Plus attendance would improve. And still....the AAC schools should be winning both conferences. So, that there is now 2 bids for the AAC schools....one from each conference(assuming the cusa schools would always be on the bottom of each conf).

Just for example:

North Conference:
Div 1: UConn, Temple, ECU, Cincy , UMass, Marshall,
Div 2: Navy, Army, UNCC, ODU, W. Ky, M. Tn.

South Conference:
Div 1: UofH, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, La Tech, S. Miss
Div 2: Rice, N. Texas, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, USF

Subs can be made for any of the CUSA schools if one doesn't fit well. But, the basic idea would or should help to bring a bit better regional support. And still the AAC schools should win both these conferences...or, at least have the best shot.

What does UCONN offer?

It associates those southern schools with a premiere basketball program. Let's also not forget that UCONN participated in 3 of the top 10 G5 TV ratings games last season (despite how awful UCONN was). In addition to averaging over 30,000 in attendance the last 5 years (again despite the awful product), UCONN also has the highest athletic budget within the conference. To ask what UCONN brings to the table is nothing more than a trolling fail on your part. Try again.

(08-22-2015 09:07 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 08:59 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 01:46 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 10:30 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 11:46 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  Great response. A real brain teaser.

Instead of UofH, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa and Memphis playing...
UConn, Temple, ECU and USF(schools that have no connection with the southwest).....
they could play....
UTSA, UTEP, La Tech and Rice(schools that are relevant in this region).

What about that isn't up to your standards.
More fans, closer games, better competition.

First, I'm glad you took my message as intended without insult. The only advantage of your proposal is closer competition. If you look at the ages and histories of your proposed CUSA teams, other than proximity they share nothing in common with their more established proposed counterparts. Regional conferences have gone the way of the Dodo bird. If the AAC teams wish to remain relevant making more $ and have any chance for upward mobility your proposal would move them a step backward. You do realize those teams left CUSA to join the AAC for a reason don't you? What do you suppose that reason was?

This. UCONN travels more than anyone else in this conference, but the current members of the AAC are who we want to associate with (if P5 membership isn't in the cards). I think just about every AAC school (AD/President/fan-base) feels the same way.

I can totally understand why UConn wants to be associated with all the schools in the southern half of the conference(specifically). There is a boat load of recruiting in Ok, Tx, Fl, La and Ark/Tn.
If, I was UConn....I would never want to let that go unless I was guaranteed an equal region to recruit.

But, for the schools in the southern half of the AAC(with all due respect to these institutions).....what do they get for either: (a) traveling to Temple or UConn or (b) hosting these schools?
The southern schools fans probably aren't traveling to support their schools that far away. And when Temple or UConn come to the southern schools....how many or those schools fans travel this far south?

If you split the AAC in half....and added the CUSA schools to each region to get to 12 in each conference. Then, there would be much better travel and regional support. Plus attendance would improve. And still....the AAC schools should be winning both conferences. So, that there is now 2 bids for the AAC schools....one from each conference(assuming the cusa schools would always be on the bottom of each conf).

Just for example:

North Conference:
Div 1: UConn, Temple, ECU, Cincy , UMass, Marshall,
Div 2: Navy, Army, UNCC, ODU, W. Ky, M. Tn.

South Conference:
Div 1: UofH, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, La Tech, S. Miss
Div 2: Rice, N. Texas, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, USF

Subs can be made for any of the CUSA schools if one doesn't fit well. But, the basic idea would or should help to bring a bit better regional support. And still the AAC schools should win both these conferences...or, at least have the best shot.

What does UCONN offer?

It associates those southern schools with a premiere basketball program. Let's also not forget that UCONN participated in 3 of the top 10 G5 TV ratings games last season (despite how awful UCONN was). In addition to averaging over 30,000 in attendance the last 5 years (again despite the awful product), UCONN also has the highest athletic budget within the conference. To ask what UCONN brings to the table is nothing more than a trolling fail on your part. Try again.

Hold on there.
I'm not trying to put UConn down.
I'm just stating that UConn and Temple are very far away...and don't create much buzz for attendance all the way down in the south. Just like UofH doesn't move any meters in Conn.
Try not to be too defensive.

(08-22-2015 09:12 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:07 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 08:59 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 01:46 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 10:30 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  First, I'm glad you took my message as intended without insult. The only advantage of your proposal is closer competition. If you look at the ages and histories of your proposed CUSA teams, other than proximity they share nothing in common with their more established proposed counterparts. Regional conferences have gone the way of the Dodo bird. If the AAC teams wish to remain relevant making more $ and have any chance for upward mobility your proposal would move them a step backward. You do realize those teams left CUSA to join the AAC for a reason don't you? What do you suppose that reason was?

This. UCONN travels more than anyone else in this conference, but the current members of the AAC are who we want to associate with (if P5 membership isn't in the cards). I think just about every AAC school (AD/President/fan-base) feels the same way.

I can totally understand why UConn wants to be associated with all the schools in the southern half of the conference(specifically). There is a boat load of recruiting in Ok, Tx, Fl, La and Ark/Tn.
If, I was UConn....I would never want to let that go unless I was guaranteed an equal region to recruit.

But, for the schools in the southern half of the AAC(with all due respect to these institutions).....what do they get for either: (a) traveling to Temple or UConn or (b) hosting these schools?
The southern schools fans probably aren't traveling to support their schools that far away. And when Temple or UConn come to the southern schools....how many or those schools fans travel this far south?

If you split the AAC in half....and added the CUSA schools to each region to get to 12 in each conference. Then, there would be much better travel and regional support. Plus attendance would improve. And still....the AAC schools should be winning both conferences. So, that there is now 2 bids for the AAC schools....one from each conference(assuming the cusa schools would always be on the bottom of each conf).

Just for example:

North Conference:
Div 1: UConn, Temple, ECU, Cincy , UMass, Marshall,
Div 2: Navy, Army, UNCC, ODU, W. Ky, M. Tn.

South Conference:
Div 1: UofH, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, La Tech, S. Miss
Div 2: Rice, N. Texas, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, USF

Subs can be made for any of the CUSA schools if one doesn't fit well. But, the basic idea would or should help to bring a bit better regional support. And still the AAC schools should win both these conferences...or, at least have the best shot.

What does UCONN offer?

It associates those southern schools with a premiere basketball program. Let's also not forget that UCONN participated in 3 of the top 10 G5 TV ratings games last season (despite how awful UCONN was). In addition to averaging over 30,000 in attendance the last 5 years (again despite the awful product), UCONN also has the highest athletic budget within the conference. To ask what UCONN brings to the table is nothing more than a trolling fail on your part. Try again.

Hold on there.
I'm not trying to put UConn down.
I'm just stating that UConn and Temple are very far away...and don't create much buzz for attendance all the way down in the south. Just like UofH doesn't move any meters in Conn.
Try not to be too defensive.

Not defensive all...just correcting you. Those Southern/Southwestern schools also want to be associated with UCONN. You'll find very few fans on this board that agree with you...

(08-22-2015 09:19 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:12 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:07 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 08:59 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 01:46 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  This. UCONN travels more than anyone else in this conference, but the current members of the AAC are who we want to associate with (if P5 membership isn't in the cards). I think just about every AAC school (AD/President/fan-base) feels the same way.

I can totally understand why UConn wants to be associated with all the schools in the southern half of the conference(specifically). There is a boat load of recruiting in Ok, Tx, Fl, La and Ark/Tn.
If, I was UConn....I would never want to let that go unless I was guaranteed an equal region to recruit.

But, for the schools in the southern half of the AAC(with all due respect to these institutions).....what do they get for either: (a) traveling to Temple or UConn or (b) hosting these schools?
The southern schools fans probably aren't traveling to support their schools that far away. And when Temple or UConn come to the southern schools....how many or those schools fans travel this far south?

If you split the AAC in half....and added the CUSA schools to each region to get to 12 in each conference. Then, there would be much better travel and regional support. Plus attendance would improve. And still....the AAC schools should be winning both conferences. So, that there is now 2 bids for the AAC schools....one from each conference(assuming the cusa schools would always be on the bottom of each conf).

Just for example:

North Conference:
Div 1: UConn, Temple, ECU, Cincy , UMass, Marshall,
Div 2: Navy, Army, UNCC, ODU, W. Ky, M. Tn.

South Conference:
Div 1: UofH, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, La Tech, S. Miss
Div 2: Rice, N. Texas, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, USF

Subs can be made for any of the CUSA schools if one doesn't fit well. But, the basic idea would or should help to bring a bit better regional support. And still the AAC schools should win both these conferences...or, at least have the best shot.

What does UCONN offer?

It associates those southern schools with a premiere basketball program. Let's also not forget that UCONN participated in 3 of the top 10 G5 TV ratings games last season (despite how awful UCONN was). In addition to averaging over 30,000 in attendance the last 5 years (again despite the awful product), UCONN also has the highest athletic budget within the conference. To ask what UCONN brings to the table is nothing more than a trolling fail on your part. Try again.

Hold on there.
I'm not trying to put UConn down.
I'm just stating that UConn and Temple are very far away...and don't create much buzz for attendance all the way down in the south. Just like UofH doesn't move any meters in Conn.
Try not to be too defensive.

Not defensive all...just correcting you. Those Southern/Southwestern schools also want to be associated with UCONN. You'll find very few fans on this board that agree with you...

First you accuse me of downing your team, which I never did.
Now, you think I'm worried that others agree with me.
And the whole time...you ignore what I'm saying.
That's fine.
Because, you can't argue what I'm actually saying....
which is....that UConn and Temple don't sell tickets way down here. And, UofH nor SMU won't be able to bring fans with them up to Conn and Philly to buy tickets. It's a bad mix of schools...and I feel it probably costs the league attendance.

It has nothing to do with whether these schools love each other or not. I am talking about selling tickets and reducing travel for fans.

(08-22-2015 10:03 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:19 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:12 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:07 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 08:59 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  I can totally understand why UConn wants to be associated with all the schools in the southern half of the conference(specifically). There is a boat load of recruiting in Ok, Tx, Fl, La and Ark/Tn.
If, I was UConn....I would never want to let that go unless I was guaranteed an equal region to recruit.

But, for the schools in the southern half of the AAC(with all due respect to these institutions).....what do they get for either: (a) traveling to Temple or UConn or (b) hosting these schools?
The southern schools fans probably aren't traveling to support their schools that far away. And when Temple or UConn come to the southern schools....how many or those schools fans travel this far south?

If you split the AAC in half....and added the CUSA schools to each region to get to 12 in each conference. Then, there would be much better travel and regional support. Plus attendance would improve. And still....the AAC schools should be winning both conferences. So, that there is now 2 bids for the AAC schools....one from each conference(assuming the cusa schools would always be on the bottom of each conf).

Just for example:

North Conference:
Div 1: UConn, Temple, ECU, Cincy , UMass, Marshall,
Div 2: Navy, Army, UNCC, ODU, W. Ky, M. Tn.

South Conference:
Div 1: UofH, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, La Tech, S. Miss
Div 2: Rice, N. Texas, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, USF

Subs can be made for any of the CUSA schools if one doesn't fit well. But, the basic idea would or should help to bring a bit better regional support. And still the AAC schools should win both these conferences...or, at least have the best shot.

What does UCONN offer?

It associates those southern schools with a premiere basketball program. Let's also not forget that UCONN participated in 3 of the top 10 G5 TV ratings games last season (despite how awful UCONN was). In addition to averaging over 30,000 in attendance the last 5 years (again despite the awful product), UCONN also has the highest athletic budget within the conference. To ask what UCONN brings to the table is nothing more than a trolling fail on your part. Try again.

Hold on there.
I'm not trying to put UConn down.
I'm just stating that UConn and Temple are very far away...and don't create much buzz for attendance all the way down in the south. Just like UofH doesn't move any meters in Conn.
Try not to be too defensive.

Not defensive all...just correcting you. Those Southern/Southwestern schools also want to be associated with UCONN. You'll find very few fans on this board that agree with you...

First you accuse me of downing your team, which I never did.
Now, you think I'm worried that others agree with me.
And the whole time...you ignore what I'm saying.
That's fine.
Because, you can't argue what I'm actually saying....
which is....that UConn and Temple don't sell tickets way down here. And, UofH nor SMU won't be able to bring fans with them up to Conn and Philly to buy tickets. It's a bad mix of schools...and I feel it probably costs the league attendance.

It has nothing to do with whether these schools love each other or not. I am talking about selling tickets and reducing travel for fans.

Correct...in a perfect ticket selling world, SMU/Houston would share a conference with Texas/A&M/Tech/Baylor/TCU. UCONN with BC/Cuse/Pitt....but that's not the case. U are a fool if u think regional subpar opponents will hype up the fan base...

(08-22-2015 10:13 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 10:03 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:19 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:12 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:07 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  What does UCONN offer?

It associates those southern schools with a premiere basketball program. Let's also not forget that UCONN participated in 3 of the top 10 G5 TV ratings games last season (despite how awful UCONN was). In addition to averaging over 30,000 in attendance the last 5 years (again despite the awful product), UCONN also has the highest athletic budget within the conference. To ask what UCONN brings to the table is nothing more than a trolling fail on your part. Try again.

Hold on there.
I'm not trying to put UConn down.
I'm just stating that UConn and Temple are very far away...and don't create much buzz for attendance all the way down in the south. Just like UofH doesn't move any meters in Conn.
Try not to be too defensive.

Not defensive all...just correcting you. Those Southern/Southwestern schools also want to be associated with UCONN. You'll find very few fans on this board that agree with you...

First you accuse me of downing your team, which I never did.
Now, you think I'm worried that others agree with me.
And the whole time...you ignore what I'm saying.
That's fine.
Because, you can't argue what I'm actually saying....
which is....that UConn and Temple don't sell tickets way down here. And, UofH nor SMU won't be able to bring fans with them up to Conn and Philly to buy tickets. It's a bad mix of schools...and I feel it probably costs the league attendance.

It has nothing to do with whether these schools love each other or not. I am talking about selling tickets and reducing travel for fans.

Correct...in a perfect ticket selling world, SMU/Houston would share a conference with Texas/A&M/Tech/Baylor/TCU. UCONN with BC/Cuse/Pitt....but that's not the case. U are a fool if u think regional subpar opponents will hype up the fan base...

I don't know that anyone has to be a fool here.
But, it is smarter to have regional subpar than subpar from far away.

Sam Houston and SFA play a neutral site game in Houston that sells around 30k seats per year. And that is two FCS schools that are on the road. So, yeah....I think regional opponents have a much better opportunity to sell tickets for both home and away fans.

And, I feel it's silly for some of these deep south schools to be treking up to Conn and Penn for games frequently. Playing schools that have absolutely no connection to any state in the south.

Sorry if that bothers you so much.
Feel free to discuss some other subject if you like.

Do you really think that Temple is selling many tickets when they travel to Texas?

UC and UCONN would NEVER NEVER EVER agree to the conference mellow corn is suggesting...lol

we would go indy first

(08-22-2015 10:27 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UC and UCONN would NEVER NEVER EVER agree to the conference mellow corn is suggesting...lol

we would go indy first

If you had your choice of any other 11 schools to join a G5 conference with....what does it look like or who is in it with Cincy?

(08-22-2015 10:27 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UC and UCONN would NEVER NEVER EVER agree to the conference mellow corn is suggesting...lol

we would go indy first

Memphis votes no, too.

(08-22-2015 10:46 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 10:27 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UC and UCONN would NEVER NEVER EVER agree to the conference mellow corn is suggesting...lol

we would go indy first

Memphis votes no, too.

yup

at that point we break off and form a new conference....aac/cusa combo is a no go

I'm just curious what a conference put together by Cincy would look like? Pick any G5 schools you want.

(08-22-2015 11:05 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  I'm just curious what a conference put together by Cincy would look like? Pick any G5 schools you want.

If I could make my own G5 conf it would be:

East
UC
UCONN
Navy
Temple
UCF
Army
ECU

West
Boise
BYU
UH
SMU
Memphis
SDSU
AirForce

if we needed more we would choose from Fresno, Col St., and USF

Good hoops
Pretty decent football
all three academies
army/navy
big markets

(08-22-2015 11:12 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 11:05 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  I'm just curious what a conference put together by Cincy would look like? Pick any G5 schools you want.

If I could make my own G5 conf it would be:

East
UC
UCONN
Navy
Temple
UCF
Army
ECU

West
Boise
BYU
UH
SMU
Memphis
SDSU
AirForce

if we needed more we would choose from Fresno, Col St., and USF

Good hoops
Pretty decent football
all three academies
army/navy
big markets

And voila, /thread.

I almost buy that, but I wouldn't kick out USF just to get Army.

(08-23-2015 07:32 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I almost buy that, but I wouldn't kick out USF just to get Army.

yeah...I was torn on that one. If I did this on another day it probably would look different.

I did the army thing because they are east and to unite all three service academies and plus, if we have UCF, then I saw USF as 'duplicate'....but again, If I did this exercise another day I may have USF in over Army, or say, Col St over Fresno, etc. Some of these are interchangeable

maybe add both and go to 16.....etc.

(08-22-2015 08:59 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  Just for example:

North Conference:
Div 1: UConn, Temple, ECU, Cincy , UMass, Marshall,
Div 2: Navy, Army, UNCC, ODU, W. Ky, M. Tn.

South Conference:
Div 1: UofH, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, La Tech, S. Miss
Div 2: Rice, N. Texas, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, USF

Forget it. The AAC exists because schools are looking to associate with the highest profile institutions that they can. High research, high academic profile, high athletic profile, or some combination thereof. That's what Universities want, that's what presidents want. And that goes for the presidents of virtually every school.
it's the same reason why C-USA is not merged with the sunbelt...speaking of which, why haven't you suggested that if you are so worried about geography and travel?

(08-22-2015 08:59 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 01:46 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 10:30 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 11:46 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 11:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  I believe you got the "almost think" part right. I suggest you give it a little more effort and really think. If you do you will see it wasn't a good idea. Lol.

Great response. A real brain teaser.

Instead of UofH, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa and Memphis playing...
UConn, Temple, ECU and USF(schools that have no connection with the southwest).....
they could play....
UTSA, UTEP, La Tech and Rice(schools that are relevant in this region).

What about that isn't up to your standards.
More fans, closer games, better competition.

First, I'm glad you took my message as intended without insult. The only advantage of your proposal is closer competition. If you look at the ages and histories of your proposed CUSA teams, other than proximity they share nothing in common with their more established proposed counterparts. Regional conferences have gone the way of the Dodo bird. If the AAC teams wish to remain relevant making more $ and have any chance for upward mobility your proposal would move them a step backward. You do realize those teams left CUSA to join the AAC for a reason don't you? What do you suppose that reason was?

This. UCONN travels more than anyone else in this conference, but the current members of the AAC are who we want to associate with (if P5 membership isn't in the cards). I think just about every AAC school (AD/President/fan-base) feels the same way.

I can totally understand why UConn wants to be associated with all the schools in the southern half of the conference(specifically). There is a boat load of recruiting in Ok, Tx, Fl, La and Ark/Tn.
If, I was UConn....I would never want to let that go unless I was guaranteed an equal region to recruit.

But, for the schools in the southern half of the AAC(with all due respect to these institutions).....what do they get for either: (a) traveling to Temple or UConn or (b) hosting these schools?
The southern schools fans probably aren't traveling to support their schools that far away. And when Temple or UConn come to the southern schools....how many or those schools fans travel this far south?

If you split the AAC in half....and added the CUSA schools to each region to get to 12 in each conference. Then, there would be much better travel and regional support. Plus attendance would improve. And still....the AAC schools should be winning both conferences. So, that there is now 2 bids for the AAC schools....one from each conference(assuming the cusa schools would always be on the bottom of each conf).

Just for example:

North Conference:
Div 1: UConn, Temple, ECU, Cincy , UMass, Marshall,
Div 2: Navy, Army, UNCC, ODU, W. Ky, M. Tn.

South Conference:
Div 1: UofH, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, La Tech, S. Miss
Div 2: Rice, N. Texas, Tulane, Memphis, UCF, USF

Subs can be made for any of the CUSA schools if one doesn't fit well. But, the basic idea would or should help to bring a bit better regional support. And still the AAC schools should win both these conferences...or, at least have the best shot.

We left a better conference than that to join the AAC. I don't see much that woud be attractive in that---more importantly---how attractive are those much smaller footprints going to be to networks? I doubt networks will be elbowing one another out of the way to sign bus leagues. If I'm changing the AAC to make it better---I'm expanding the footprint to go national. That's the only way to increase network value. Regional G5 conferences have proven to be basically worthless to networks. Why would anyone want to design a less valueble conference. The most compact conference is the MAC, and it's attendance is the lowest of all the G5's. Looks to me like the compact bus legue idea is good for cutting costs and little else. It does not increase attendance or income.

(08-22-2015 10:22 PM)MellowCorn Wrote:  Sam Houston and SFA play a neutral site game in Houston that sells around 30k seats per year. And that is two FCS schools that are on the road. So, yeah....I think regional opponents have a much better opportunity to sell tickets for both home and away fans.

1) 25k-26k <> 30k. If UH averages <26k, it's a major catastrophe. If UH averages 30k, we want to improve, but not as disastrous.
2) Looking at one game a season is a poor proof of your argument. Using your argument, Lamar and Abilene Christian should also have very good attendance, but those games generally average <10k.

Some regional opponents have a better opportunity to increase sales, but regional opponents by themselves aren't a cure. If it was, UNT and Rice would have much better attendance than they do.