(08-17-2015 12:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  If you are even 20 yrs old, you know UCF (& Cincy too) doesn't have a long tradition of winning.....so don't come with this lifetime crap.

For UCF, actually, a 20 yr old would know that as most probably start following football when they are 10...and 10 years ago, UCF won CUSA East and hosted the first ever CUSA Championship Game.

2 years later, UCF won CUSA East, hosted the 3rd CUSA Championship Game and then won that CUSA Championship Game and played Miss St in the Liberty Bowl game

3 years later, UCF did all the above again...except they played Georgia in the Liberty Bowl game and won.

2 years after that, UCF won CUSA East...played in CUSA Championship Game in Tulsa (but lost.

1 year later, UCF went 8-0 in AAC, won the first ever AAC Title, then beat #6 Baylor in the BCS Fiesta Bowl.

1 year later, UCF went 7-1 in AAC, and won another AAC Titled (shared with 2 other teams).

So yeah...a 20 yr old would have saw a lot of UCF winning.

Somewhat same for Cinci...as I think UC won back-to-back Big East Titles and then had 2 appearances in BCS Title games (lost both) and then won a AAC title last year with 7-1 record (shared with 2 other teams).

So in conclusion, a 20 yr old would have most definitely seen a lot of winning and probably some, if not, the greatest football seasons for those school.

Hard to predict.................UCF has Hollman with more experience and lots of good athletes all over the field.
Temple is dangerous with the D and probably more Offense. Houston, Ward with Herman for an entire off season might
look like JT Barrett Jr, and a good roster. Cincy lost 2 starter RBs very early last season, Tion Green and Hosey Williams, they are back
through in Soph sensation Mike Boone, Kiel and all of the receivers all you need is a decent D.................wide open
for multiple teams to win.

UC 35
Memphis 24

(08-17-2015 02:49 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:12 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 01:37 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 12:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 12:37 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  Because some fans have never seen their teams having any level of success during their lifetimes as fans, and consequently they just don't how to act like they've been there before.

If you are even 20 yrs old, you know UCF (& Cincy too) doesn't have a long tradition of winning.....so don't come with this lifetime crap. If your school had that tradition, just like mine, none of us would be in the AAC - so get real.

The statement was "any level of success." UCF has won 4 conference championships and a BCS bowl (Fiesta) and Liberty bowl victory finishing ranked #10 and #21. That certainly qualifies as a "level of success." Prior to last season the last modicum of success Memphis had was a couple of minor bowl victories never winning a conference championship not attaining a final ranking and finishing what 7-6 during and just after the D'angelo Williams era which ended in 2005, hence my point "during their lifetimes as fans." Presuming of course that the poster was a relatively young fan. I'm sorry if the truth hurts your bruised ego, but prior to last year's final ranking of #25 and share of the AAC conference championship the simple truth is that many Memphis fans were not even born when they won their last conference championship or attained a final ranking in football. I can't speak for UC, but I can sure as heck believe they've won multiple conference championships and bowl games as well as earning final rankings during the relevant time period. Truth is truth, so it is very "real."

I agree with all of this. HOWEVER, the same UCF fans who want us to know our place used to constantly remind us during basketball season that CUSA was a 'football conference' and that we weren't allowed to talk about basketball.

I left it alone at first in this thread but Memphis fans do currently have some right to do a bit of smack talk; especially against UC due to the beatdown last year.

Yes, Memphis sucked at the end of the Tommy West era and then made one of the worst coaching hires in history with Larry Porter. This is neither of those.

Your place is the reigning co-conference champions, and only AAC team to end last year with a ranking at #25. Memphis has every right to be loud and proud. I just don't think they need to belittle other teams in an effort to elevate themselves. Memphis' accomplishments last year speak for themselves, I believe some of their fans really have no concept of how a champion should conduct themselves only because it is a relatively new phenomenon to Memphis football. Other Memphis fans exemplify nothing but class (here's looking at you Old Tiger and Gray Avenger). As with any fanbase you will always get a combination of class and classless, and yes that applies to my beloved UCF Knights as well.

I love this argument. We don't know how to conduct ourselves as Champions.

1. We have won a lot in basketball in this lifetime and a hell of a lot more than UCF.

2. Just maybe some of us are mocking you.

Carry on.

Memphis will be very good this year. Personally, I think we will be better than last year. Should be fun.

UC 65
Mem 3

(08-17-2015 04:51 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UC 35
Memphis 24

Did y'all acquire a defense in the offseason? I think it'll be more high scoring than that

(08-17-2015 02:49 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:12 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 01:37 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 12:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 12:37 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  Because some fans have never seen their teams having any level of success during their lifetimes as fans, and consequently they just don't how to act like they've been there before.

If you are even 20 yrs old, you know UCF (& Cincy too) doesn't have a long tradition of winning.....so don't come with this lifetime crap. If your school had that tradition, just like mine, none of us would be in the AAC - so get real.

The statement was "any level of success." UCF has won 4 conference championships and a BCS bowl (Fiesta) and Liberty bowl victory finishing ranked #10 and #21. That certainly qualifies as a "level of success." Prior to last season the last modicum of success Memphis had was a couple of minor bowl victories never winning a conference championship not attaining a final ranking and finishing what 7-6 during and just after the D'angelo Williams era which ended in 2005, hence my point "during their lifetimes as fans." Presuming of course that the poster was a relatively young fan. I'm sorry if the truth hurts your bruised ego, but prior to last year's final ranking of #25 and share of the AAC conference championship the simple truth is that many Memphis fans were not even born when they won their last conference championship or attained a final ranking in football. I can't speak for UC, but I can sure as heck believe they've won multiple conference championships and bowl games as well as earning final rankings during the relevant time period. Truth is truth, so it is very "real."

I agree with all of this. HOWEVER, the same UCF fans who want us to know our place used to constantly remind us during basketball season that CUSA was a 'football conference' and that we weren't allowed to talk about basketball.

I left it alone at first in this thread but Memphis fans do currently have some right to do a bit of smack talk; especially against UC due to the beatdown last year.

Yes, Memphis sucked at the end of the Tommy West era and then made one of the worst coaching hires in history with Larry Porter. This is neither of those.

Your place is the reigning co-conference champions, and only AAC team to end last year with a ranking at #25. Memphis has every right to be loud and proud. I just don't think they need to belittle other teams in an effort to elevate themselves. Memphis' accomplishments last year speak for themselves, I believe some of their fans really have no concept of how a champion should conduct themselves only because it is a relatively new phenomenon to Memphis football. Other Memphis fans exemplify nothing but class (here's looking at you Old Tiger and Gray Avenger). As with any fanbase you will always get a combination of class and classless, and yes that applies to my beloved UCF Knights as well.

It was merely stated Memphis will beat Cincy twice at home this year, just a fan's prospective given the beat down last year..."classless", "belittle"??? Read your posts & look in the mirror. Memphis has to go back no further than last season to find it winning or it can look at the last 50 yrs, as Gray Avenger did in another thread to show Memphis has beat more top 20 teams than anyone else in the AAC. I also pointed out that if Cincy, UCF or Memphis had a consistent & lengthy history of winning big, any of those 3 would not be in the AAC. I understand it rubs some wrong that Memphis won the AAC and finished in the top 25 last year but get used to it, it will happen again this year. Or that Memphis holds a 19-13 lifetime win advantage versus Cincy (not so good against UCF but UCF is relatively new to the game). Just fan talk but not classless or belittling, you have that distinction.

(08-17-2015 05:00 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Memphis will be very good this year. Personally, I think we will be better than last year. Should be fun.

I am not saying Memphis will not be good this year, but what makes you think they will be better than last year after losing 7 starters on defense and the coordinator? And please do not give me the ECU argument of the back ups were much better than the starters.

I don't generally drink the kool aid but also think the Memphis defense will be better than last year. Lots of depth on D last year, a lot of guys played & played well that will be back this year plus incoming recruits are competing. As for the new D coordinator, he's been there since before Fuente, is tough, a great communicator & teacher. Remember Infedi, likely the best of the departed defensive players, was out for much of last season. Defense this year will be more talented & faster, just lacking as much experience as the starters last season. Fuente, who is given to understatement, also says he likes what he has seen in the defense in practice & is expecting them to surprise. The one concern I have is replacing Redden. IMO he was the unsung hero on the D last year - and his position is key to an effective 3-4.

(08-17-2015 05:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:49 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:12 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 01:37 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 12:53 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  If you are even 20 yrs old, you know UCF (& Cincy too) doesn't have a long tradition of winning.....so don't come with this lifetime crap. If your school had that tradition, just like mine, none of us would be in the AAC - so get real.

The statement was "any level of success." UCF has won 4 conference championships and a BCS bowl (Fiesta) and Liberty bowl victory finishing ranked #10 and #21. That certainly qualifies as a "level of success." Prior to last season the last modicum of success Memphis had was a couple of minor bowl victories never winning a conference championship not attaining a final ranking and finishing what 7-6 during and just after the D'angelo Williams era which ended in 2005, hence my point "during their lifetimes as fans." Presuming of course that the poster was a relatively young fan. I'm sorry if the truth hurts your bruised ego, but prior to last year's final ranking of #25 and share of the AAC conference championship the simple truth is that many Memphis fans were not even born when they won their last conference championship or attained a final ranking in football. I can't speak for UC, but I can sure as heck believe they've won multiple conference championships and bowl games as well as earning final rankings during the relevant time period. Truth is truth, so it is very "real."

I agree with all of this. HOWEVER, the same UCF fans who want us to know our place used to constantly remind us during basketball season that CUSA was a 'football conference' and that we weren't allowed to talk about basketball.

I left it alone at first in this thread but Memphis fans do currently have some right to do a bit of smack talk; especially against UC due to the beatdown last year.

Yes, Memphis sucked at the end of the Tommy West era and then made one of the worst coaching hires in history with Larry Porter. This is neither of those.

Your place is the reigning co-conference champions, and only AAC team to end last year with a ranking at #25. Memphis has every right to be loud and proud. I just don't think they need to belittle other teams in an effort to elevate themselves. Memphis' accomplishments last year speak for themselves, I believe some of their fans really have no concept of how a champion should conduct themselves only because it is a relatively new phenomenon to Memphis football. Other Memphis fans exemplify nothing but class (here's looking at you Old Tiger and Gray Avenger). As with any fanbase you will always get a combination of class and classless, and yes that applies to my beloved UCF Knights as well.

It was merely stated Memphis will beat Cincy twice at home this year, just a fan's prospective given the beat down last year..."classless", "belittle"??? Read your posts & look in the mirror. Memphis has to go back no further than last season to find it winning or it can look at the last 50 yrs, as Gray Avenger did in another thread to show Memphis has beat more top 20 teams than anyone else in the AAC. I also pointed out that if Cincy, UCF or Memphis had a consistent & lengthy history of winning big, any of those 3 would not be in the AAC. I understand it rubs some wrong that Memphis won the AAC and finished in the top 25 last year but get used to it, it will happen again this year. Or that Memphis holds a 19-13 lifetime win advantage versus Cincy (not so good against UCF but UCF is relatively new to the game). Just fan talk but not classless or belittling, you have that distinction.

I still remember when UC best Memphis 4 times in one year in basketball to advanced to the Final 4.....a Final 4 we did NOT have to vacate!!!

(08-17-2015 06:09 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 05:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:49 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:12 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 01:37 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  The statement was "any level of success." UCF has won 4 conference championships and a BCS bowl (Fiesta) and Liberty bowl victory finishing ranked #10 and #21. That certainly qualifies as a "level of success." Prior to last season the last modicum of success Memphis had was a couple of minor bowl victories never winning a conference championship not attaining a final ranking and finishing what 7-6 during and just after the D'angelo Williams era which ended in 2005, hence my point "during their lifetimes as fans." Presuming of course that the poster was a relatively young fan. I'm sorry if the truth hurts your bruised ego, but prior to last year's final ranking of #25 and share of the AAC conference championship the simple truth is that many Memphis fans were not even born when they won their last conference championship or attained a final ranking in football. I can't speak for UC, but I can sure as heck believe they've won multiple conference championships and bowl games as well as earning final rankings during the relevant time period. Truth is truth, so it is very "real."

I agree with all of this. HOWEVER, the same UCF fans who want us to know our place used to constantly remind us during basketball season that CUSA was a 'football conference' and that we weren't allowed to talk about basketball.

I left it alone at first in this thread but Memphis fans do currently have some right to do a bit of smack talk; especially against UC due to the beatdown last year.

Yes, Memphis sucked at the end of the Tommy West era and then made one of the worst coaching hires in history with Larry Porter. This is neither of those.

Your place is the reigning co-conference champions, and only AAC team to end last year with a ranking at #25. Memphis has every right to be loud and proud. I just don't think they need to belittle other teams in an effort to elevate themselves. Memphis' accomplishments last year speak for themselves, I believe some of their fans really have no concept of how a champion should conduct themselves only because it is a relatively new phenomenon to Memphis football. Other Memphis fans exemplify nothing but class (here's looking at you Old Tiger and Gray Avenger). As with any fanbase you will always get a combination of class and classless, and yes that applies to my beloved UCF Knights as well.

It was merely stated Memphis will beat Cincy twice at home this year, just a fan's prospective given the beat down last year..."classless", "belittle"??? Read your posts & look in the mirror. Memphis has to go back no further than last season to find it winning or it can look at the last 50 yrs, as Gray Avenger did in another thread to show Memphis has beat more top 20 teams than anyone else in the AAC. I also pointed out that if Cincy, UCF or Memphis had a consistent & lengthy history of winning big, any of those 3 would not be in the AAC. I understand it rubs some wrong that Memphis won the AAC and finished in the top 25 last year but get used to it, it will happen again this year. Or that Memphis holds a 19-13 lifetime win advantage versus Cincy (not so good against UCF but UCF is relatively new to the game). Just fan talk but not classless or belittling, you have that distinction.

I still remember when UC best Memphis 4 times in one year in basketball to advanced to the Final 4.....a Final 4 we did NOT have to vacate!!!

Friggin Nick Van Exel.

(08-17-2015 06:09 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 05:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:49 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:12 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 01:37 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  The statement was "any level of success." UCF has won 4 conference championships and a BCS bowl (Fiesta) and Liberty bowl victory finishing ranked #10 and #21. That certainly qualifies as a "level of success." Prior to last season the last modicum of success Memphis had was a couple of minor bowl victories never winning a conference championship not attaining a final ranking and finishing what 7-6 during and just after the D'angelo Williams era which ended in 2005, hence my point "during their lifetimes as fans." Presuming of course that the poster was a relatively young fan. I'm sorry if the truth hurts your bruised ego, but prior to last year's final ranking of #25 and share of the AAC conference championship the simple truth is that many Memphis fans were not even born when they won their last conference championship or attained a final ranking in football. I can't speak for UC, but I can sure as heck believe they've won multiple conference championships and bowl games as well as earning final rankings during the relevant time period. Truth is truth, so it is very "real."

I agree with all of this. HOWEVER, the same UCF fans who want us to know our place used to constantly remind us during basketball season that CUSA was a 'football conference' and that we weren't allowed to talk about basketball.

I left it alone at first in this thread but Memphis fans do currently have some right to do a bit of smack talk; especially against UC due to the beatdown last year.

Yes, Memphis sucked at the end of the Tommy West era and then made one of the worst coaching hires in history with Larry Porter. This is neither of those.

Your place is the reigning co-conference champions, and only AAC team to end last year with a ranking at #25. Memphis has every right to be loud and proud. I just don't think they need to belittle other teams in an effort to elevate themselves. Memphis' accomplishments last year speak for themselves, I believe some of their fans really have no concept of how a champion should conduct themselves only because it is a relatively new phenomenon to Memphis football. Other Memphis fans exemplify nothing but class (here's looking at you Old Tiger and Gray Avenger). As with any fanbase you will always get a combination of class and classless, and yes that applies to my beloved UCF Knights as well.

It was merely stated Memphis will beat Cincy twice at home this year, just a fan's prospective given the beat down last year..."classless", "belittle"??? Read your posts & look in the mirror. Memphis has to go back no further than last season to find it winning or it can look at the last 50 yrs, as Gray Avenger did in another thread to show Memphis has beat more top 20 teams than anyone else in the AAC. I also pointed out that if Cincy, UCF or Memphis had a consistent & lengthy history of winning big, any of those 3 would not be in the AAC. I understand it rubs some wrong that Memphis won the AAC and finished in the top 25 last year but get used to it, it will happen again this year. Or that Memphis holds a 19-13 lifetime win advantage versus Cincy (not so good against UCF but UCF is relatively new to the game). Just fan talk but not classless or belittling, you have that distinction.

I still remember when UC best Memphis 4 times in one year in basketball to advanced to the Final 4.....a Final 4 we did NOT have to vacate!!!

Why not jump to a BB topic in a FB thread? Yep, a good case of selective memory........but that's what fans do when we're waiting for the season to play out & let the results speak for themselves. What was that score last year? Oh yeah, 41-14 Memphis at Cincinnati.........we can continue this after the next game this fall, or maybe even after the two games this season if Cincy can recover from its Memphis loss during the season.

(08-17-2015 06:12 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 06:09 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 05:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:49 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:12 PM)transitt Wrote:  I agree with all of this. HOWEVER, the same UCF fans who want us to know our place used to constantly remind us during basketball season that CUSA was a 'football conference' and that we weren't allowed to talk about basketball.

I left it alone at first in this thread but Memphis fans do currently have some right to do a bit of smack talk; especially against UC due to the beatdown last year.

Yes, Memphis sucked at the end of the Tommy West era and then made one of the worst coaching hires in history with Larry Porter. This is neither of those.

Your place is the reigning co-conference champions, and only AAC team to end last year with a ranking at #25. Memphis has every right to be loud and proud. I just don't think they need to belittle other teams in an effort to elevate themselves. Memphis' accomplishments last year speak for themselves, I believe some of their fans really have no concept of how a champion should conduct themselves only because it is a relatively new phenomenon to Memphis football. Other Memphis fans exemplify nothing but class (here's looking at you Old Tiger and Gray Avenger). As with any fanbase you will always get a combination of class and classless, and yes that applies to my beloved UCF Knights as well.

It was merely stated Memphis will beat Cincy twice at home this year, just a fan's prospective given the beat down last year..."classless", "belittle"??? Read your posts & look in the mirror. Memphis has to go back no further than last season to find it winning or it can look at the last 50 yrs, as Gray Avenger did in another thread to show Memphis has beat more top 20 teams than anyone else in the AAC. I also pointed out that if Cincy, UCF or Memphis had a consistent & lengthy history of winning big, any of those 3 would not be in the AAC. I understand it rubs some wrong that Memphis won the AAC and finished in the top 25 last year but get used to it, it will happen again this year. Or that Memphis holds a 19-13 lifetime win advantage versus Cincy (not so good against UCF but UCF is relatively new to the game). Just fan talk but not classless or belittling, you have that distinction.

I still remember when UC best Memphis 4 times in one year in basketball to advanced to the Final 4.....a Final 4 we did NOT have to vacate!!!

Friggin Nick Van Exel.

(08-17-2015 06:13 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 06:09 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 05:11 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:49 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 02:12 PM)transitt Wrote:  I agree with all of this. HOWEVER, the same UCF fans who want us to know our place used to constantly remind us during basketball season that CUSA was a 'football conference' and that we weren't allowed to talk about basketball.

I left it alone at first in this thread but Memphis fans do currently have some right to do a bit of smack talk; especially against UC due to the beatdown last year.

Yes, Memphis sucked at the end of the Tommy West era and then made one of the worst coaching hires in history with Larry Porter. This is neither of those.

Your place is the reigning co-conference champions, and only AAC team to end last year with a ranking at #25. Memphis has every right to be loud and proud. I just don't think they need to belittle other teams in an effort to elevate themselves. Memphis' accomplishments last year speak for themselves, I believe some of their fans really have no concept of how a champion should conduct themselves only because it is a relatively new phenomenon to Memphis football. Other Memphis fans exemplify nothing but class (here's looking at you Old Tiger and Gray Avenger). As with any fanbase you will always get a combination of class and classless, and yes that applies to my beloved UCF Knights as well.

It was merely stated Memphis will beat Cincy twice at home this year, just a fan's prospective given the beat down last year..."classless", "belittle"??? Read your posts & look in the mirror. Memphis has to go back no further than last season to find it winning or it can look at the last 50 yrs, as Gray Avenger did in another thread to show Memphis has beat more top 20 teams than anyone else in the AAC. I also pointed out that if Cincy, UCF or Memphis had a consistent & lengthy history of winning big, any of those 3 would not be in the AAC. I understand it rubs some wrong that Memphis won the AAC and finished in the top 25 last year but get used to it, it will happen again this year. Or that Memphis holds a 19-13 lifetime win advantage versus Cincy (not so good against UCF but UCF is relatively new to the game). Just fan talk but not classless or belittling, you have that distinction.

I still remember when UC best Memphis 4 times in one year in basketball to advanced to the Final 4.....a Final 4 we did NOT have to vacate!!!

Why not jump to a BB topic in a FB thread? Yep, a good case of selective memory........but that's what fans do when we're waiting for the season to play out & let the results speak for themselves. What was that score last year? Oh yeah, 41-14 Memphis at Cincinnati.........we can continue this after the next game this fall, or maybe even after the two games this season if Cincy can recover from its Memphis loss during the season.

You hijacked this thread with bull***....a USA Today article you had to start a pi**ing match...

You're doing the p..sing, I'm just a fan looking at results & possibilities. Don't you even think about & read your posts before you send them?

(08-17-2015 07:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  You're doing the p..sing, I'm just a fan looking at results & possibilities. Don't you even think about & read your posts before you send them?

simmer down son....simmer down

(08-17-2015 07:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  You're doing the p..sing, I'm just a fan looking at results & possibilities. Don't you even think about & read your posts before you send them?

Yes.....that's why I posted the 4 time beat down in basketball....exactly what has Memphis ever accomplished in athletics....I honestly don't know....enlighten me

Can't we all just get along?

(08-17-2015 05:06 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UC 65
Mem 3

Come on man, we will at least put up 6 points.