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RE: History: that time Houston and Miami almost joined the SEC
Tulane came extremely close 10 to 20 yeas ago to join the Big 12. The University of Texas was leading the charge for them. Tulane's worst move in its athletic history was to voluntarily withdraw from the SEC.
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RE: History: that time Houston and Miami almost joined the SEC
(07-22-2015 01:24 PM)Savacool Wrote:  That is not true. The SEC did not want the two. As you all know Tulane was a founding member of the SEC.

these are archive facts, not opinions read the article or news paper link i posted....and you are the least credible person here
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RE: History: that time Houston and Miami almost joined the SEC
(07-22-2015 01:17 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 10:59 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 07:29 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Link to real documentation and not just a Blogger or Forum piece please. History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction. 05-stirthepot

Before you scream about me doubting your veracity, remember that you're always asking for a link. 07-coffee3

It happened. I want to say Mississippi or Mississippi St was our sponsor. Seems like I remember it being mentioned on the Houston Cougars Football Wikipeidia page. I suspect there is a footnote there you can go to for more documentation. I actually think were some discussions about joining the SEC several different eras. We were approached in the late 80's and early 1990's as a possible partner for Texas A&M.

Attack, I have no problems with it happening. I wanted to read what had happened. I asked for a source because one wasn't present or unreadable at the time I posted. pesik is a different story, he's such a tool. He had to attack everyone in stead of having a discussion.

you called my post fiction like i was making it up..and said it was some blogger or forum article
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RE: History: that time Houston and Miami almost joined the SEC
(07-22-2015 03:29 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 01:17 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 10:59 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 07:29 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Link to real documentation and not just a Blogger or Forum piece please. History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction. 05-stirthepot

Before you scream about me doubting your veracity, remember that you're always asking for a link. 07-coffee3

It happened. I want to say Mississippi or Mississippi St was our sponsor. Seems like I remember it being mentioned on the Houston Cougars Football Wikipeidia page. I suspect there is a footnote there you can go to for more documentation. I actually think were some discussions about joining the SEC several different eras. We were approached in the late 80's and early 1990's as a possible partner for Texas A&M.

Attack, I have no problems with it happening. I wanted to read what had happened. I asked for a source because one wasn't present or unreadable at the time I posted. pesik is a different story, he's such a tool. He had to attack everyone in stead of having a discussion.

you called my post fiction like i was making it up..and said it was some blogger or forum article

Your initial link was unreadable, (shown as a pasted picture). Thus I asked for a new one and as your link was unreadable but that you'd referenced the source of the story as being discussed on another forum, I asked that you not use a Forum, Blogger, etc as a source. The reference of being fictional if not sourced is a reference to you whom has to have a source with every post.

I suggest a little practice on reading comprehension as I did not state your source was fiction. I merely stated a source without documentation could be viewed as a work of fiction. You also attacked someone who hadn't even posted you. Perhaps some anger management courses would help.

I did call you a tool but, that was in a later post. 07-coffee3
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RE: History: that time Houston and Miami almost joined the SEC
(07-22-2015 01:15 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 10:07 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 07:29 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Link to real documentation and not just a Blogger or Forum piece please. History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction. 05-stirthepot

Before you scream about me doubting your veracity, remember that you're always asking for a link. 07-coffee3

"History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction"
so anything that happened before the existance of the internet and you cant "link" to isnt history but fiction..that has got to be the most ignorant thing ive ever read...

2) where is old tiger i swear he is always around to call me out constantly whenever im even slightly critcal on anyone else but no where to be seen


3) did you even read the document? this wasnt a blog post or forum piece. all i did was summarize what was in the fax...it was a fax summarizing how far he's gotten with talking to the other sec presidents and what the likelyhood of everything was and how far he has to go to our president at the time General Andrew Davis Bruce..

if that s not enough for you heres a newspaper from that era talking about it

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=8...1662&hl=en

4)you call out everyone and everything on this forum not usf that shows them in a positive light and are dramatically over critical of everything...but will then post article from some blogger..(an actually blogger post what you are trying to call me out on today) of some theory he made up on what teams would sell for on the open market....a theory that had duke..top 3 most powerful bball school in the nation that pays its coach almost 10 mil a year..only being worth in total 26mil.....almost 10 mil less than Wazzu....

your slowly becoming that rollingwave guy..who feels the need to trash anything and anyone not his school and overhype anything his school is doing

1, Historical accounts are also written in text on paper, stone and animal hides but I digress.

2, OldTiger is one of the least critical people on this forum.

3, Your document wasn't even present when I posted. Hmm, maybe you had to search for it. Note that you've edited your post to add the now present document. Thus proving you're trying to attack people for no reason.

4, I do not call out everyone. In fact I don't even post in most threads. You however, whine like hell if anyone even suggests you may be wrong on anything. Oh and how dare anyone question your sources. Just act like your an adult for a while. I asked for a source. By the way, I can make a document that's far more substantial then that in Photoshop, I suggest you give it whirl. 05-stirthepot

i never said old tiger was critical, but that he has called me out atleast 7 times about me being critical of others, and then acts like those people dont do it too..but when they clearly do it back he will never post or call them out either..like when i was jokingly mocking your other thread...he ran to your defense like you never do that

i am almost never defensive... people call me out all the time in the forum..i almost never get defensive and just go find links to support my claim ... i only ever get defensive with quo who he'll ask for a source and ill give him numerous but he then chooses to pick and choose which one's are credible for him...this credible person said this and that which directly supports my claim...quo would be that perosn is lying....which id get defensive about..and slowly now with you who just call out everything is such rude ways..maybe its a usf thing

lastly...you could have said do have any other sources...and id have posted it..you clearly insinuated it was fiction and a made up blog story...but we are going to pretend that you didnt do that 05-nono

you go around in such a hypocritical way. you claim you arent defensive but i am, but when i litely mocked your thread, you went on an inappropriate insult and curse word laced tirade that would get you banned on most forums ..even if i was being serious about the my jab, your response was ridiculously inappropriate...literally now, i say why are you calling people out and im now "whining" and "dont act like an adult"...

you literally called me out for being insultive, but in every interaction ive had with you since you been 10x more insultive and rude than i ever have on this site

youll claim you dont get it into any of the blogger stuff and that its all fodder even if it was usf, when you call out other teams posting stuff boosting their team up...but will then go any make threads literally composed of meaningless blogger fodder because it boosts usf.. i have no problem with your threads boosting usf but if you are going to be doing that dont call out other people for doing it
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RE: History: that time Houston and Miami almost joined the SEC
adding reading comprehension to the list of insults....you clearly insinuated it was fiction anyone with reading comprehension can see that...you didnt state you couldnt see the document till later and even then you suggested it could have been photoshoped..

you could have just been "oh my bad i didnt see the document" and id have backed up and said it was cool..
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RE: History: that time Houston and Miami almost joined the SEC
pesik, get over yourself already. You'll feel better. I could have asked for the moon and you'd have been defensive. You say you aren't but, this forums proves you are. Just try to relax. Just because someone asks for a source doesn't mean they are attacking you. They could have been as I am, unable to read the source first hand for whatever reason.

As for the photographed Newspaper in the post. It was nice to read. There were a couple articles of interest. The one about the SEC proposing that all recruiting be monitored by the NCAA and not Alumni, Boosters and Administrations was unexpected. There was also the continuation of that where it was brought forth for the NCAA to discuss Student Aid packages. Having all schools sign on to recognizing other schools student aid documentation so as to curb the "Stealing of recruits".

All in all a good read and is why I was interested in the first place. Reading articles like this is refreshing as it's not second hand from a Blogger/Forum where you have the opinions of current time people on issues of the past. Yes a reporter can slant an article to their liking but, you're generally closer to the source and at least with in the same decade as far as opinions go. So it's a better judge of why a rule was created and what they were thinking at the time they made it.

They didn't run as much on the Miami/Houston story but, that doesn't mean there weren't others and that paper is from Tampa. Despite what people think, Tampa isn't really that big on the Hurricanes. So probably a lot more in a Miami or Houston paper. Just saying.
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RE: History: that time Houston and Miami almost joined the SEC
(07-22-2015 11:13 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 10:36 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 10:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 10:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  so you are saying there was a chance 60 years ago



bwahahahahahaha

Some may find this information interesting. 07-coffee3

this actually did happen

[Image: 08-Circus-hippo-pulling-a-cart-1924.jpg]
That is beyond dangerous, hippos attack and kill more people in Africa than any other animal

I have heard that as well, but for a barroom bet, the actual answer is mosquitoes.
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(07-22-2015 09:59 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  USFRamenu, thanks for kind comment. Greatly appreciated.

Pesik, I don't know what to tell ya, man. I do remember twice when you and I got a bit sideways....once when I found it odd that you had used the per game average attendance leader in basketball as a reason for the conference's reason for poor average attendance. I thought it was odd, would be embarrassing for you and thought you would want to reword it. The second was the exchange that you mentioned above.

If there were 7 times when I aggressively called you out, while that's a long way from "constantly", it is more than I recall or should have singled out a single poster critically as that's not my normal style/demeanor with any fellow conference poster that isn't here just to cause havoc.

So, have a good evening and I'll try to recognize your sensitive feelings in the future.

dont worry about my sensitive feelings just stop pretending like im the only one doing it to them and they arent doing it in return
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(07-22-2015 11:13 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 10:36 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 10:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 10:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  so you are saying there was a chance 60 years ago



bwahahahahahaha

Some may find this information interesting. 07-coffee3

this actually did happen

[Image: 08-Circus-hippo-pulling-a-cart-1924.jpg]
That is beyond dangerous, hippos attack and kill more people in Africa than any other animal

Also looks like a bulldog on super killer steroids. lol
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(07-23-2015 11:41 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 10:28 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:59 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  USFRamenu, thanks for kind comment. Greatly appreciated.

Pesik, I don't know what to tell ya, man. I do remember twice when you and I got a bit sideways....once when I found it odd that you had used the per game average attendance leader in basketball as a reason for the conference's reason for poor average attendance. I thought it was odd, would be embarrassing for you and thought you would want to reword it. The second was the exchange that you mentioned above.

If there were 7 times when I aggressively called you out, while that's a long way from "constantly", it is more than I recall or should have singled out a single poster critically as that's not my normal style/demeanor with any fellow conference poster that isn't here just to cause havoc.

So, have a good evening and I'll try to recognize your sensitive feelings in the future.

dont worry about my sensitive feelings just stop pretending like im the only one doing it to them and they arent doing it in return
Perhaps you would be wise to worry less about my comments and more about yours. :)

you're right, maybe ive been giving you too much respect and valuing your input way more than others..thanks for the clarity, ill add you to the fray 07-coffee3
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(07-22-2015 10:28 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:59 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  USFRamenu, thanks for kind comment. Greatly appreciated.

Pesik, I don't know what to tell ya, man. I do remember twice when you and I got a bit sideways....once when I found it odd that you had used the per game average attendance leader in basketball as a reason for the conference's reason for poor average attendance. I thought it was odd, would be embarrassing for you and thought you would want to reword it. The second was the exchange that you mentioned above.

If there were 7 times when I aggressively called you out, while that's a long way from "constantly", it is more than I recall or should have singled out a single poster critically as that's not my normal style/demeanor with any fellow conference poster that isn't here just to cause havoc.

So, have a good evening and I'll try to recognize your sensitive feelings in the future.

dont worry about my sensitive feelings just stop pretending like im the only one doing it to them and they arent doing it in return

Way off the rails man. Keep going though we are all getting a good chuckle. This has potential
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(07-23-2015 11:15 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 10:28 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 09:59 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  USFRamenu, thanks for kind comment. Greatly appreciated.

Pesik, I don't know what to tell ya, man. I do remember twice when you and I got a bit sideways....once when I found it odd that you had used the per game average attendance leader in basketball as a reason for the conference's reason for poor average attendance. I thought it was odd, would be embarrassing for you and thought you would want to reword it. The second was the exchange that you mentioned above.

If there were 7 times when I aggressively called you out, while that's a long way from "constantly", it is more than I recall or should have singled out a single poster critically as that's not my normal style/demeanor with any fellow conference poster that isn't here just to cause havoc.

So, have a good evening and I'll try to recognize your sensitive feelings in the future.

dont worry about my sensitive feelings just stop pretending like im the only one doing it to them and they arent doing it in return

Way off the rails man. Keep going though we are all getting a good chuckle. This has potential

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