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Forbes Magazine Most Valuable Conferences
"...The world of college sports is very clearly split between the haves and the have nots. The back half of our list – comprised of the American, Mountain West, Big East, C-USA and MAC – generated a combined $213 million last year. Consider that the Big 12, the lowest-earning Power Five conference, took home $253 million. And that wealth gap would be even wider if not for the College Football Playoff, which shared $80 million among the so-called Group of Five (AAC, MWC, C-USA, MAC and the Sun Belt Conference)."

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(07-21-2015 05:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  "...The world of college sports is very clearly split between the haves and the have nots. The back half of our list – comprised of the American, Mountain West, Big East, C-USA and MAC – generated a combined $213 million last year. Consider that the Big 12, the lowest-earning Power Five conference, took home $253 million. And that wealth gap would be even wider if not for the College Football Playoff, which shared $80 million among the so-called Group of Five (AAC, MWC, C-USA, MAC and the Sun Belt Conference)."

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2...-sports/2/

Volkmar, you accidentally cut off the Sun Belt when you cropped the image 05-stirthepot
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Amazing that schools like Ole Miss and Miss St. are pulling in more conference $ than schools like Ohio St. Michigan Texas and Oklahoma
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Where is the Sun Belt? Amazing the MAC is similar to CUSA, I think that changes soon..
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(07-22-2015 07:02 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Where is the Sun Belt? Amazing the MAC is similar to CUSA, I think that changes soon..

You are probably right, the MAC is still on their old TV $$$. The raise they got does not start for another year or 2.
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(07-22-2015 07:02 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Where is the Sun Belt? Amazing the MAC is similar to CUSA, I think that changes soon..

This looks like a top ten. The Sun Belt apparently didn't make the cut.
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(07-22-2015 08:00 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:02 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Where is the Sun Belt? Amazing the MAC is similar to CUSA, I think that changes soon..

This looks like a top ten. The Sun Belt apparently didn't make the cut.

True. Not in original article, either.
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(07-21-2015 10:15 PM)winston70 Wrote:  Amazing that schools like Ole Miss and Miss St. are pulling in more conference $ than schools like Ohio St. Michigan Texas and Oklahoma

Except I would not expect this chart to catalog all of the tier 3 revenue that is collected on an individual basis in the Big 12. Texas dwarfs other schools because of their individual 15M deal with ESPN for the LHN. OU supposedly gets around 8M from Fox for their regional access. Kansas makes about the same on their basketball. WVU signed a fairly lucrative 3rd teir deal as well.
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It's a miracle that anyone outside the P5 can survive. It's criminal how the P5 has consolidated power.
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(07-22-2015 07:53 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:02 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Where is the Sun Belt? Amazing the MAC is similar to CUSA, I think that changes soon..

You are probably right, the MAC is still on their old TV $$$. The raise they got does not start for another year or 2.

Are you saying the MAC is going to pass CUSA? I think it's more likely that the SBC will pass the MAC.
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(07-21-2015 05:26 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  "...The world of college sports is very clearly split between the haves and the have nots. The back half of our list – comprised of the American, Mountain West, Big East, C-USA and MAC – generated a combined $213 million last year. Consider that the Big 12, the lowest-earning Power Five conference, took home $253 million. And that wealth gap would be even wider if not for the College Football Playoff, which shared $80 million among the so-called Group of Five (AAC, MWC, C-USA, MAC and the Sun Belt Conference)."

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2...-sports/2/

Someone tell me how the MAC earned more bowl money then C-USA when we played a better bowl schedule, including a bowl with the Big10?
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(07-23-2015 12:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:53 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:02 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Where is the Sun Belt? Amazing the MAC is similar to CUSA, I think that changes soon..

You are probably right, the MAC is still on their old TV $$$. The raise they got does not start for another year or 2.

Are you saying the MAC is going to pass CUSA? I think it's more likely that the SBC will pass the MAC.

The MAC and Sunbelt both are gonna pass CUSA up.
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(07-22-2015 07:53 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:02 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Where is the Sun Belt? Amazing the MAC is similar to CUSA, I think that changes soon..

You are probably right, the MAC is still on their old TV $$$. The raise they got does not start for another year or 2.

Wrong. The new deal included additional provisions to the three remaining years, plus a 10 year extension. So, they are now through year 1 of a 13 year agreement,

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watch...story.html
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(07-27-2015 07:12 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  
(07-23-2015 12:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:53 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:02 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Where is the Sun Belt? Amazing the MAC is similar to CUSA, I think that changes soon..

You are probably right, the MAC is still on their old TV $$$. The raise they got does not start for another year or 2.

Are you saying the MAC is going to pass CUSA? I think it's more likely that the SBC will pass the MAC.

The MAC and Sunbelt both are gonna pass CUSA up.

0% chance of this happening.
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(07-27-2015 07:12 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  
(07-23-2015 12:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:53 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:02 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Where is the Sun Belt? Amazing the MAC is similar to CUSA, I think that changes soon..

You are probably right, the MAC is still on their old TV $$$. The raise they got does not start for another year or 2.

Are you saying the MAC is going to pass CUSA? I think it's more likely that the SBC will pass the MAC.

The MAC and Sunbelt both are gonna pass CUSA up.

In what # of ESPN Tuesday night home games in Nov.? If so then yes that statement is 100% accurate..
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(07-28-2015 09:09 AM)Superanjario Wrote:  
(07-27-2015 07:12 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  
(07-23-2015 12:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:53 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:02 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Where is the Sun Belt? Amazing the MAC is similar to CUSA, I think that changes soon..

You are probably right, the MAC is still on their old TV $$$. The raise they got does not start for another year or 2.

Are you saying the MAC is going to pass CUSA? I think it's more likely that the SBC will pass the MAC.

The MAC and Sunbelt both are gonna pass CUSA up.

0% chance of this happening.
Maybe not the MAC but last round of realignment this conference made some horrible choices. Hell, CUSA has a team that won't be playing football for another two years plus an FCS call up that just started playing. It doesn't look good. Look at our schedule. Marshall couldn't get any respect because of strength of schedule. Who's on the schedule? Other CUSA schools. Every year our recruiting classes have went down since the AAC split. I think programs like Texas State, Arkansas State, Louisiana, Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, ect.... have superior athletics to some of the programs in the new CUSA. It hurts to admit but that's reality.
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(07-28-2015 05:46 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  
(07-28-2015 09:09 AM)Superanjario Wrote:  
(07-27-2015 07:12 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  
(07-23-2015 12:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(07-22-2015 07:53 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  You are probably right, the MAC is still on their old TV $$$. The raise they got does not start for another year or 2.

Are you saying the MAC is going to pass CUSA? I think it's more likely that the SBC will pass the MAC.

The MAC and Sunbelt both are gonna pass CUSA up.

0% chance of this happening.
Maybe not the MAC but last round of realignment this conference made some horrible choices. Hell, CUSA has a team that won't be playing football for another two years plus an FCS call up that just started playing. It doesn't look good. Look at our schedule. Marshall couldn't get any respect because of strength of schedule. Who's on the schedule? Other CUSA schools. Every year our recruiting classes have went down since the AAC split. I think programs like Texas State, Arkansas State, Louisiana, Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, ect.... have superior athletics to some of the programs in the new CUSA. It hurts to admit but that's reality.

"Some" programs are better, yes. But that's to be expected. Surely you don't think EVERY C-USA program should be better than EVERY Sun Belt program, do you? That's unreasonable. The important thing is that we're better overall, and we are, at least based on last year's results.

Sun Belt vs. C-USA Last Year
The Sun Belt had an advantage over us in women's sports...

Volleyball ... 5-1
Soccer ... 2-5-1
Softball ... 9-4
Basketball ... 4-4
Women's Aggregate vs. C-USA ... 20-14-1

They're at a disadvantage in men's sports though...

Soccer ... 1-0
Baseball ... 5-12
Basketball ... 4-5
Football ... 0-4
Men's Aggregate vs. C-USA ... 10-21

Altogether, they're 30-35-1 against us, so I wouldn't characterize them as superior.
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The Big East was 29-25 against the SEC in football...Perception is everything.
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(07-28-2015 07:39 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  The Big East was 29-25 against the SEC in football...Perception is everything.

Yep, aware of that. I discovered that a couple years ago, much to my surprise (lol). The Big East is indeed the only conference the SEC doesn't hold an advantage against, and ironically enough, the Big East doesn't even compete in football anymore. I don't think there are many who perceive the Sun Belt to have better athletics programs than C-USA though, so that point is moot.
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