(07-23-2015 09:23 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:29 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  hey great idea! Let me get the program, make a few calls, and I can probably have us out of here by COB tomorrow

<eye roll>

You aren't disturbed by the graph?! LOL gawd. Well, as a UC fan, I have higher hopes and dreams for my team/program than you do apparently.

I am highly disturbed. P5 or bust.

yeah, you and every other G5 team...it's like you two are just now figuring out the reality of the situation.

Nah...unlike Memphis, UC and UCONN are accustomed to playing at the highest level in revenue sports. It wasn't until last season that Memphis started doing so....

You guys have been playing football at the FBS level for only over 10 years. Memphis has been FBS / 1-A since the beginning I think they are more use to playing at the highest level. UCONN basketball also just became a big deal in the recent 25 years while Memphis has always been known for their basketball program back to the Metro days.

And look at what Memphis accomplished with all that extra time...

(07-23-2015 09:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 09:23 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  I am highly disturbed. P5 or bust.

yeah, you and every other G5 team...it's like you two are just now figuring out the reality of the situation.

Nah...unlike Memphis, UC and UCONN are accustomed to playing at the highest level in revenue sports. It wasn't until last season that Memphis started doing so....

You guys have been playing football at the FBS level for only over 10 years. Memphis has been FBS / 1-A since the beginning I think they are more use to playing at the highest level. UCONN basketball also just became a big deal in the recent 25 years while Memphis has always been known for their basketball program back to the Metro days.

And look at what Memphis accomplished with all that extra time...

zing

(07-22-2015 01:34 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 01:08 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Shows the inaccuracy I always see posted that we only make 2M per team. We actually make 5M per (or close to it).

We make $2 million from out TV contract. $5 million includes NCAA credits, Bowl games and playoff money.

I think there is alot to look forward to. ESPN came back and added coverage of our soccer games and then gave us coverage for our baseball. That shows an increased interest in our product.

I am so tired of people acting like ESPN is cutting back or hurting. Everyone who has left ESPN did because of other reasons. One got a deal in LA where he wanted to be and the other got a massive deal with HBO. It isnt cause ESPN is hurting. We will get a new deal and Aresco has hinted that it will come before the end of the contract.

We NEED to perform. We need to get a team into the access bowl. We need to send 4-5 to the NCAA tourney and we need to continue our rise in all other sports. Id love to see ESPN extend even more baseball coverage and I have a very good feeling about our soccer. People dont realize but ESPN is investing in soccer because they are making good money on it.

I really have no doubt that we will triple our contract. Every P5 tripled and when compared to scale, tripling ours is a drop in the bucket. If we hit $6 million or more in our extension, then our total take will be over $10 million. That at least keeps us in the game and ahead of everyone else.

I understand that. I am talking when I see people posting that the AAC distribution per team is 2M like TV money is all we get. It is 5M. Actually USF, UConn, and Cincinnati's is probably around 8-10M with the exit money.

(07-23-2015 09:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 09:23 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  I am highly disturbed. P5 or bust.

yeah, you and every other G5 team...it's like you two are just now figuring out the reality of the situation.

Nah...unlike Memphis, UC and UCONN are accustomed to playing at the highest level in revenue sports. It wasn't until last season that Memphis started doing so....

You guys have been playing football at the FBS level for only over 10 years. Memphis has been FBS / 1-A since the beginning I think they are more use to playing at the highest level. UCONN basketball also just became a big deal in the recent 25 years while Memphis has always been known for their basketball program back to the Metro days.

And look at what Memphis accomplished with all that extra time...

An AAC football championship and downright throttling of both UConn and UC last season?

(07-23-2015 09:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 09:23 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  I am highly disturbed. P5 or bust.

yeah, you and every other G5 team...it's like you two are just now figuring out the reality of the situation.

Nah...unlike Memphis, UC and UCONN are accustomed to playing at the highest level in revenue sports. It wasn't until last season that Memphis started doing so....

You guys have been playing football at the FBS level for only over 10 years. Memphis has been FBS / 1-A since the beginning I think they are more use to playing at the highest level. UCONN basketball also just became a big deal in the recent 25 years while Memphis has always been known for their basketball program back to the Metro days.

And look at what Memphis accomplished with all that extra time...

Ironic coming from a fan of a football program ranked in the 120s that spent significant time in a BCS conference.

(07-23-2015 12:09 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 09:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 09:23 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  yeah, you and every other G5 team...it's like you two are just now figuring out the reality of the situation.

Nah...unlike Memphis, UC and UCONN are accustomed to playing at the highest level in revenue sports. It wasn't until last season that Memphis started doing so....

You guys have been playing football at the FBS level for only over 10 years. Memphis has been FBS / 1-A since the beginning I think they are more use to playing at the highest level. UCONN basketball also just became a big deal in the recent 25 years while Memphis has always been known for their basketball program back to the Metro days.

And look at what Memphis accomplished with all that extra time...

An AAC football championship and downright throttling of both UConn and UC last season?

Memphis has underachieved in football for the vast majority of its program history and has a losing all time record. Things are looking up now though.

(07-23-2015 09:23 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:29 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  hey great idea! Let me get the program, make a few calls, and I can probably have us out of here by COB tomorrow

<eye roll>

You aren't disturbed by the graph?! LOL gawd. Well, as a UC fan, I have higher hopes and dreams for my team/program than you do apparently.

I am highly disturbed. P5 or bust.

yeah, you and every other G5 team...it's like you two are just now figuring out the reality of the situation.

Nah...unlike Memphis, UC and UCONN are accustomed to playing at the highest level in revenue sports. It wasn't until last season that Memphis started doing so....

You guys have been playing football at the FBS level for only over 10 years. Memphis has been FBS / 1-A since the beginning I think they are more use to playing at the highest level. UCONN basketball also just became a big deal in the recent 25 years while Memphis has always been known for their basketball program back to the Metro days.

^ most impressive, sir...and factually accurate...well done.

(07-23-2015 09:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 09:23 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  I am highly disturbed. P5 or bust.

yeah, you and every other G5 team...it's like you two are just now figuring out the reality of the situation.

Nah...unlike Memphis, UC and UCONN are accustomed to playing at the highest level in revenue sports. It wasn't until last season that Memphis started doing so....

You guys have been playing football at the FBS level for only over 10 years. Memphis has been FBS / 1-A since the beginning I think they are more use to playing at the highest level. UCONN basketball also just became a big deal in the recent 25 years while Memphis has always been known for their basketball program back to the Metro days.

And look at what Memphis accomplished with all that extra time...

(07-23-2015 12:38 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  Memphis has underachieved in football for the vast majority of its program history and has a losing all time record.

Well your 52.1% record certainly blows our 48.9% away. Let me know when UCF manages 9 wins against your in-state rivals Florida, FSU and Miami.

(07-23-2015 02:55 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:38 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  Memphis has underachieved in football for the vast majority of its program history and has a losing all time record.

Well your 52.1% record certainly blows our 48.9% away. Let me know when UCF manages 9 wins against your in-state rivals Florida, FSU and Miami.

54.2% all time record and 55% as a D1 program for UCF, so you are wrong from the get go. We are a significantly younger program than memphis. We've also been to just as many bowl games as y'all already. When did memphis start D1 football? This really isn't the point though. I'm just saying it seems like memphis has been around a long time and has underacheived for the most of it. Do you disagree?

(07-21-2015 04:20 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This is why we all want out.

Imagine if you were still in C-USA. So it depends how you look at the situation. Is the glass half empty or half full?

(07-23-2015 02:55 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:38 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  Memphis has underachieved in football for the vast majority of its program history and has a losing all time record.

Let me know when UCF manages 9 wins against your in-state rivals Florida, FSU and Miami.

Congrats for beating some small private school in the 1960's called Miami.

Congrats for winning games vs a former girls school (FSU) in the 50's, 60's, and early 70's.

Unlike most Memphis fans...I was actually at the fun game almost 30 years ago when Memphis beat UF, who was sufferng from being put on severe probation (including TV ban I believe) after 144 charges of violations were brought up against their rogue program.

All those games except one were well before UCF even sniffed their Div III program...and UM's last win above from almost 30 years ago was when UCF was still in Div II.

(07-23-2015 12:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:29 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 08:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  this picture graphically represents why I hate the AAC...

Then leave...

hey great idea! Let me get the program, make a few calls, and I can probably have us out of here by COB tomorrow

<eye roll>

You aren't disturbed by the graph?! LOL gawd. Well, as a UC fan, I have higher hopes and dreams for my team/program than you do apparently.

I am highly disturbed. P5 or bust.

yeah, you and every other G5 team...it's like you two are just now figuring out the reality of the situation.

Nah...unlike Memphis, UC and UCONN are accustomed to playing at the highest level in revenue sports. It wasn't until last season that Memphis started doing so....

Uconn didn't even play at all when we were beating sec teams snd we lead the series against cincy. Try again little feller. UConn got embarrassed at a high level in football so here we are sugar, get confy

(07-23-2015 03:11 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 02:55 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:38 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  Memphis has underachieved in football for the vast majority of its program history and has a losing all time record.

Well your 52.1% record certainly blows our 48.9% away. Let me know when UCF manages 9 wins against your in-state rivals Florida, FSU and Miami.

54.2% all time record and 55% as a D1 program for UCF, so you are wrong from the get go. We are a significantly younger program than memphis. We've also been to just as many bowl games as y'all already. When did memphis start D1 football? This really isn't the point though. I'm just saying it seems like memphis has been around a long time and has underacheived for the most of it. Do you disagree?

For most of our existence we weren't in a conference and had to play mostly SEC schools with a non SEC budget. It doesn't help the winning percentage. Totally inept leadership for a good bit of the 80s till....well, two or three years ago didn't help, either. They finally started putting an emphasis on football 5 years ago. We don't even have all the the new facilities built yet. The IPF , for example, is scheduled to open before next season. We're building a football program in Memphis. Bear Bryant would tell you that the program he referred to as a 'sleeping giant' is starting to wake up. Still, in the past quarter century we've beaten a team or two- Multiple wins vs Ole Miss, Mississippi St, Arkansas(we lead the series), Southern Cal, Missouri, Tennessee, Vandy, South Carolina, etc. Moreover, had bowls been as easy to come by as they are now we'd have dozens...we averaged 7 wins per season from 1960-77...we had multiple winning records in the 80s and 90s as well.

(07-23-2015 11:51 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 03:11 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 02:55 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:38 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  Memphis has underachieved in football for the vast majority of its program history and has a losing all time record.

Well your 52.1% record certainly blows our 48.9% away. Let me know when UCF manages 9 wins against your in-state rivals Florida, FSU and Miami.

54.2% all time record and 55% as a D1 program for UCF, so you are wrong from the get go. We are a significantly younger program than memphis. We've also been to just as many bowl games as y'all already. When did memphis start D1 football? This really isn't the point though. I'm just saying it seems like memphis has been around a long time and has underacheived for the most of it. Do you disagree?

For most of our existence we weren't in a conference and had to play mostly SEC schools with a non SEC budget. It doesn't help the winning percentage. Totally inept leadership for a good bit of the 80s till....well, two or three years ago didn't help, either. They finally started putting an emphasis on football 5 years ago. We don't even have all the the new facilities built yet. The IPF , for example, is scheduled to open before next season. We're building a football program in Memphis. Bear Bryant would tell you that the program he referred to as a 'sleeping giant' is starting to wake up. Still, in the past quarter century we've beaten a team or two- Multiple wins vs Ole Miss, Mississippi St, Arkansas(we lead the series), Southern Cal, Missouri, Tennessee, Vandy, South Carolina, etc. Moreover, had bowls been as easy to come by as they are now we'd have dozens...we averaged 7 wins per season from 1960-77...we had multiple winning records in the 80s and 90s as well.

You are wasting your breath with the pre pubescent UCF contingency. Most of their fans know the deal but they have some really young dumb fans Ucf has come a long way and it's been fun to watch. Im.not sure they understand how fast it can go south. Hate to see them learn but they will. It's inevitable

(07-23-2015 11:23 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:29 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  hey great idea! Let me get the program, make a few calls, and I can probably have us out of here by COB tomorrow

<eye roll>

You aren't disturbed by the graph?! LOL gawd. Well, as a UC fan, I have higher hopes and dreams for my team/program than you do apparently.

I am highly disturbed. P5 or bust.

yeah, you and every other G5 team...it's like you two are just now figuring out the reality of the situation.

Nah...unlike Memphis, UC and UCONN are accustomed to playing at the highest level in revenue sports. It wasn't until last season that Memphis started doing so....

Uconn didn't even play at all when we were beating sec teams snd we lead the series against cincy. Try again little feller. UConn got embarrassed at a high level in football so here we are sugar, get confy

Memphis lost to UConn 46-10 just one year prior and the series is tied 1-1.

What an absolute powerhouse. Good luck in the Big 12. No doubt after sharing an AAC title you guys are on your way.

(07-24-2015 06:43 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 11:23 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 12:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 11:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2015 09:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  I am highly disturbed. P5 or bust.

yeah, you and every other G5 team...it's like you two are just now figuring out the reality of the situation.

Nah...unlike Memphis, UC and UCONN are accustomed to playing at the highest level in revenue sports. It wasn't until last season that Memphis started doing so....

Uconn didn't even play at all when we were beating sec teams snd we lead the series against cincy. Try again little feller. UConn got embarrassed at a high level in football so here we are sugar, get confy

Memphis lost to UConn 46-10 just one year prior and the series is tied 1-1.

What an absolute powerhouse. Good luck in the Big 12. No doubt after sharing an AAC title you guys are on your way.

Thank you. We are.

(07-23-2015 10:50 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  All those games except one were well before UCF even sniffed their Div III program...and UM's last win above from almost 30 years ago was when UCF was still in Div II.

Touche, KnightLight - I appreciate, how you use facts in an argument rather than resorting to personal attacks. All I can say in reply is that:

(1) can't beat teams when you don't play them
(2) I am very glad that we have 7 decades more history than UCF, despite our record
(3) words cannot describe the shame I feel over our poor record against UCF
(4) I only lashed out against UCF because a UCF fan slung mud at Memphis. I earnestly try to be respectful to our AAC comrades here, but have thin skin when it comes to Tiger football. Half a century of living and dying with your alma mater's football fortunes can have that effect, as UCF fans will some day know.

(07-24-2015 08:35 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(07-23-2015 10:50 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  All those games except one were well before UCF even sniffed their Div III program...and UM's last win above from almost 30 years ago was when UCF was still in Div II.

Touche, KnightLight - I appreciate, how you use facts in an argument rather than resorting to personal attacks. All I can say in reply is that:

(1) can't beat teams when you don't play them
(2) I am very glad that we have 7 decades more history than UCF, despite our record
(3) words cannot describe the shame I feel over our poor record against UCF
(4) I only lashed out against UCF because a UCF fan slung mud at Memphis. I earnestly try to be respectful to our AAC comrades here, but have thin skin when it comes to Tiger football. Half a century of living and dying with your alma mater's football fortunes can have that effect, as UCF fans will some day know.

No prob...as one of the things I'm most proud (and lucky/fortunate) is that I've been able to LIVE most of UCF's Football history...while fans of teams can generally only read about most of their team's history.

While I missed UCF's short reign in Div III, I've seen/enjoyed UCF's competition and climb from:
Division II
Division I-AA
Division I-A Independent
MAC Conf (Football Only)
CUSA (UCF's first ever all-team/program conf)
AAC

My FSU, UF, and Miami clowns can only read about their program's initial decades or even century...while UCF's history happened right in front of my own eyes from my seat...in games at home or on the road or even out of the country (Ireland!).

I've been able to have ownership and a tiny part of responsibility in helping UCF grow from their humble beginnings and helped (tiny slice) build what UCF is today....while others were not responsible in "building" their schools programs...as they were basically a finished program by the time they latched on.

It's been quite a ride...and I hope I can still enjoy the journey for another few decades.

(07-24-2015 09:15 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  I've been able to have ownership and a tiny part of responsibility in helping UCF grow from their humble beginnings and helped (tiny slice) build what UCF is today....while others were not responsible in "building" their schools programs...as they were basically a finished program by the time they latched on.

It's been quite a ride...and I hope I can still enjoy the journey for another few decades.

I can appreciate the value in that and here's hoping that you witness MANY more years. Memphis had already been playing 57 years before I saw my first game (a loss to #8 Ole Miss) but I have since lived thru considerable "program building" (along with many set-backs) at UofM including the 2nd-ever win over Ole Miss and our first wins over such present-day "P5" programs as Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia Tech, Miami, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, USC, and Virginia Tech plus 7 bowl games. "Hope springs eternal in the breast of a Memphis Tiger". Adversity is a part of life - including college athletics.