(07-10-2015 07:01 PM)HCJag Wrote:  I'm hoping for 32-36K. That might satisfy the Senior Bowl and still get us a few P5 games. Also, Troy's done OK with getting MSU, Duke, Navy and NCSU to visit there with a similar sized stadium, and we'd still trim a few seats from the Ladd number to give us a better atmosphere.

20k lower bowl with upper deck seating for an extra 10-15k. Only open upper deck when lower bowl is at 80%.

(07-10-2015 07:24 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(07-10-2015 07:01 PM)HCJag Wrote:  I'm hoping for 32-36K. That might satisfy the Senior Bowl and still get us a few P5 games. Also, Troy's done OK with getting MSU, Duke, Navy and NCSU to visit there with a similar sized stadium, and we'd still trim a few seats from the Ladd number to give us a better atmosphere.

20k lower bowl with upper deck seating for an extra 10-15k. Only open upper deck when lower bowl is at 80%.

Do would like for the design to be one that puts the fans right on the field and it can become an intimidating place for visiting teams. I want that kind of atmosphere, of course winning many consecutive games at home does that too.

Anything over 30k is going to result in a lot of empty seats and makes it a whole lot harder to sell season tickets (no scarcity).

That's not a knock on USA, that's just the realities in the Sun Belt. Yes, I know USA got 38k for MSU, but the next highest was 17k. There were only 3 SBC games in 2014 with over 30k.

A better option IMO would be 25-28k lower level seats, either double-sided or fully bowled, with pre-poured footers for quick expansion through upper decks if necessary.

The SBC is going to get to a point where 30k is the norm, but it's just not right now, and 15k in a 30k+ stadium looks really bad.

(07-10-2015 08:54 PM)Klak Wrote:  Anything over 30k is going to result in a lot of empty seats and makes it a whole lot harder to sell season tickets (no scarcity).

That's not a knock on USA, that's just the realities in the Sun Belt. Yes, I know USA got 38k for MSU, but the next highest was 17k. There were only 3 SBC games in 2014 with over 30k.

A better option IMO would be 25-28k lower level seats, either double-sided or fully bowled, with pre-poured footers for quick expansion through upper decks if necessary.

The SBC is going to get to a point where 30k is the norm, but it's just not right now, and 15k in a 30k+ stadium looks really bad.

Twenty five thousand with grass hills at the end zones to get above thirty occasionally.

If we started at 25k, if we had a big game where we needed a larger field, play it at Ladd.

(07-10-2015 09:28 PM)Usajags Wrote:  If we started at 25k, if we had a big game where we needed a larger field, play it at Ladd.

I'm gonna lose my $#!! if we spend the money on a stadium and ever play a regular season game at Ladd again. It better be a complete replacement.

(07-10-2015 08:54 PM)Klak Wrote:  Anything over 30k is going to result in a lot of empty seats and makes it a whole lot harder to sell season tickets (no scarcity).

That's not a knock on USA, that's just the realities in the Sun Belt. Yes, I know USA got 38k for MSU, but the next highest was 17k. There were only 3 SBC games in 2014 with over 30k.

A better option IMO would be 25-28k lower level seats, either double-sided or fully bowled, with pre-poured footers for quick expansion through upper decks if necessary.

The SBC is going to get to a point where 30k is the norm, but it's just not right now, and 15k in a 30k+ stadium looks really bad.

I could probably look it up, but out of curiosity what 3 games are you referring to?

(07-10-2015 09:21 PM)MJG Wrote:  

(07-10-2015 08:54 PM)Klak Wrote:  Anything over 30k is going to result in a lot of empty seats and makes it a whole lot harder to sell season tickets (no scarcity).

That's not a knock on USA, that's just the realities in the Sun Belt. Yes, I know USA got 38k for MSU, but the next highest was 17k. There were only 3 SBC games in 2014 with over 30k.

A better option IMO would be 25-28k lower level seats, either double-sided or fully bowled, with pre-poured footers for quick expansion through upper decks if necessary.

The SBC is going to get to a point where 30k is the norm, but it's just not right now, and 15k in a 30k+ stadium looks really bad.

Twenty five thousand with grass hills at the end zones to get above thirty occasionally.

Yeah, this is the way to go.

(07-10-2015 09:56 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(07-10-2015 08:54 PM)Klak Wrote:  Anything over 30k is going to result in a lot of empty seats and makes it a whole lot harder to sell season tickets (no scarcity).

That's not a knock on USA, that's just the realities in the Sun Belt. Yes, I know USA got 38k for MSU, but the next highest was 17k. There were only 3 SBC games in 2014 with over 30k.

A better option IMO would be 25-28k lower level seats, either double-sided or fully bowled, with pre-poured footers for quick expansion through upper decks if necessary.

The SBC is going to get to a point where 30k is the norm, but it's just not right now, and 15k in a 30k+ stadium looks really bad.

I could probably look it up, but out of curiosity what 3 games are you referring to?

South Alabama vs Mississippi State (38,129)
Louisiana vs Southern University (36,170)
Texas State vs Navy (32,007)

There were only 8 other games that eclipsed 25,000.

Arkansas State vs ULM (29,317)
Arkansas State vs Utah State (29,029)
Georgia State vs Georgia Southern (28,427)
Arkansas State vs Montana State (26,143)
Appalachian State vs Liberty (26,058)
Appalachian State vs Campbell (25,861)
Louisiana vs South Alabama (25,861)
Louisiana vs Louisiana Tech (25,607)

And an additional 16 games that broke the 20,000 mark. That's 27 games out of 63 SBC home games (43%) that eclipsed 20k attendance.

Louisiana - 6 of 6 home games over 20k
Arkansas State - 6 of 6 games
Appalachian State - 5 of 6 games
Georgia Southern - 3 of 5 games
Texas State - 2 of 6 games
ULM - 1 of 5 games
South Alabama - 1 of 6 games
Troy - 1 of 6 games
Georgia State - 1 of 6 games
New Mexico State - 1 of 6 games
Idaho - 0 of 5 games

If Southern-State had 28k then our home attendance average was 30,000.

Oh you were referring to games that involved Sun Belt teams. The way you wrote it, I had thought you meant conference games which would have really surprised me to have 3 with >30k attendance.

If the conference stays together, as is minus Idaho, I could see our home games against ULL, Troy and GaSo getting to be big attendance games. Also with us adding USM in a home and home series, our home attendance games should get better, as long as we are winning some of these games. It all goes into building recognition with the teams we are playing with the average fans that only know teams that are on CBS at 2:30. It is the fight we have to fight as a G5 conference.

(07-10-2015 09:28 PM)Usajags Wrote:  If we started at 25k, if we had a big game where we needed a larger field, play it at Ladd.

Absolutely NOT! Once South's OCS is built, forget Ladd once and for all unless the GoDaddy is still hosting the SBC and we're invited. Otherwise, no more Ladd.

It wasn't a mandate, just an option. Now stop yelling at me.

(07-11-2015 12:06 PM)Usajags Wrote:  It wasn't a mandate, just an option. Now stop yelling at me.

Ladd has been very good to us and we were fortunate that we were able to play there for as long as we did. It will be time to move on to bigger and better things when the new stadium is finished and ready play in. When Bama's B-DS was upgraded and expanded and Auburn's J-HS was likewise upgraded and expanded they both left Legion Field for good. When this first class venue is done it will bring much growth to the University.

I could actually see a season ending game with USA and UL in the Mercedes Super Dome. The hotels would have to move out the Bayou Classic, but that is doable except for the obvious problem. Hotels would love to get fifty thousand people who do not bar-b-que in the rooms, and have only have approximately the number of people a room is suppose to have.

It would be possible for 4 high schools and USA to all share the same stadium, but it would mean the stadium would be in use every Thursday and Friday for 10 straight weeks, and 5-6 times on Saturday during that stretch as well.

(07-11-2015 10:18 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  It would be possible for 4 high schools and USA to all share the same stadium, but it would mean the stadium would be in use every Thursday and Friday for 10 straight weeks

You don't want Mobile public high school teams using your on campus stadium.

(07-13-2015 12:55 PM)MobileBama Wrote:  

(07-11-2015 10:18 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  It would be possible for 4 high schools and USA to all share the same stadium, but it would mean the stadium would be in use every Thursday and Friday for 10 straight weeks

You don't want Mobile public high school teams using your on campus stadium.

I'm not distinguishing between public or private, but I'm sure the USA police department does not want a weekly influx of thousands of high school students and fans for night games. Many aren't going to head straight home but will wander the campus looking for entertainment (or trouble....or both).

(07-13-2015 02:41 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(07-13-2015 12:55 PM)MobileBama Wrote:  

(07-11-2015 10:18 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  It would be possible for 4 high schools and USA to all share the same stadium, but it would mean the stadium would be in use every Thursday and Friday for 10 straight weeks

You don't want Mobile public high school teams using your on campus stadium.

I'm not distinguishing between public or private, but I'm sure the USA police department does not want a weekly influx of thousands of high school students and fans for night games. Many aren't going to head straight home but will wander the campus looking for entertainment (or trouble....or both).

many high school football games are played at uta's maverick stadium and concerts and other outdoor events like the special olympics and the scottish festival and I never hear of those kind of problems.

(07-14-2015 07:36 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(07-13-2015 02:41 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(07-13-2015 12:55 PM)MobileBama Wrote:  

(07-11-2015 10:18 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  It would be possible for 4 high schools and USA to all share the same stadium, but it would mean the stadium would be in use every Thursday and Friday for 10 straight weeks

You don't want Mobile public high school teams using your on campus stadium.

I'm not distinguishing between public or private, but I'm sure the USA police department does not want a weekly influx of thousands of high school students and fans for night games. Many aren't going to head straight home but will wander the campus looking for entertainment (or trouble....or both).

many high school football games are played at uta's maverick stadium and concerts and other outdoor events like the special olympics and the scottish festival and I never hear of those kind of problems.

UTA doesn't need the field for its college football team. You don't allow high school teams to play at your field because they'll screw up the field.