(07-03-2015 01:11 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  The problem with being a Jax State supporter is that it HAS to be frustrating to be stuck in the FCS.

I don't have a problem with anyone bringing their program up for consideration.

We ALL know that if their University were in Tenn, FL, SC, Kentucky or Virginia..... They would likely be #2 on our list for consideration.

They have done about all they can do. They just can't fight geography.

I say #2, only because JMU imop is better.

But - they are a solid program.



I don't like their name.

But three teams from Alabama doesn't serve us well.

If we lose either we already have, they have a better shot. Especially if UAB never returns to football because that would strengthen recruiting for all the remaining teams in the state.

But we do not have to have 2 teams from Alabama. Now considering we already do, we have perhaps set a precedent and they could present a good argument for their case.

I think you just have to weigh the other options. EKU,MSU,CCU,LU?

If JMU is forever out - we might see JSU in the mix at some point. In fact would probably already be in our conference were it not for location... and the name... can we do something about that name?

How about Nortwest Alabama University?

Northern Alabama University?

May work better if Northwest Alabama University wasn't in the Northeastern part of the State

(07-03-2015 01:11 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  The problem with being a Jax State supporter is that it HAS to be frustrating to be stuck in the FCS.

I don't have a problem with anyone bringing their program up for consideration.

We ALL know that if their University were in Tenn, FL, SC, Kentucky or Virginia..... They would likely be #2 on our list for consideration.

They have done about all they can do. They just can't fight geography.

I say #2, only because JMU imop is better.

But - they are a solid program.



I don't like their name.

But three teams from Alabama doesn't serve us well.

If we lose either we already have, they have a better shot. Especially if UAB never returns to football because that would strengthen recruiting for all the remaining teams in the state.

But we do not have to have 2 teams from Alabama. Now considering we already do, we have perhaps set a precedent and they could present a good argument for their case.

I think you just have to weigh the other options. EKU,MSU,CCU,LU?

If JMU is forever out - we might see JSU in the mix at some point. In fact would probably already be in our conference were it not for location... and the name... can we do something about that name?

How about Nortwest Alabama University?

Northern Alabama University?

That's an interesting take coming from a guy whose school uses the word Southern when it is clearly far more Eastern than Southern. Valdosta State is in Southern Georgia, not Statesboro. A compromise would be Southeast Georgia University.

I can hear it now going from one side of the stadium to the other... SOUTHEAST....GEORGIA / SOUTHEAST....GEORGIA.

It's got a catchy little ring to it!

If Cincinnati and Houston go to the Big 12, my concern for the Sun Belt would be losing Texas State. UMass and Rice would join the AAC, then Texas State would replace Rice in C-USA.

Of course if UAB turns down for Watts again, then losing one school puts C-USA at 12 and the Sun Belt can emerge unscathed. That only becomes a problem for the Sun Belt if the American doesn't take UMass and C-USA gets reduced to 11 members.

If Texas State leaves the Sun Belt might have to hold its nose and add a Southland school willing to move to FBS, or see if UTA can restart football, if UTA doesn't leave also.

(07-04-2015 01:08 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  If Cincinnati and Houston go to the Big 12, my concern for the Sun Belt would be losing Texas State. UMass and Rice would join the AAC, then Texas State would replace Rice in C-USA.

Of course if UAB turns down for Watts again, then losing one school puts C-USA at 12 and the Sun Belt can emerge unscathed. That only becomes a problem for the Sun Belt if the American doesn't take UMass and C-USA gets reduced to 11 members.

If Texas State leaves the Sun Belt might have to hold its nose and add a Southland school willing to move to FBS, or see if UTA can restart football, if UTA doesn't leave also.

I doubt the AAC would take UMass. The MAC dumped them while in the middle of media negotiations. If they were truely valuable, I doubt the MAC would have parted ways. The Sunbelt doesn't see much value in UMass. I doubt the AAC would be interested in a fixer upper either (especially an isolated far northeast fixer upper they could be stuck with if UConn ever gets the P5 call). With deregulation, it's possible the AAC might just stand pat at 10 (unless they could entice Army or some MW sxhools to join up) and use the new deregulation rules to continue having a CCG.

(06-30-2015 07:17 PM)Usajags Wrote:  They will leave if their conference is raided and the SBC actually bands together. If they have no one to replace teams with, other then FCS move ups, any of those three teams will listen.

But it takes a little loyalty by the current SBC members to make it happen. Also, CUSA could lose a team, 2 if UAb actually plays again, and they will still be at 12.

That won't happen at this juncture.

The only way that could happen is if two or more Sun Belt teams get hot (I mean like top 25 hot) all at once. It would also help if at least two of them were teams that weren't likely to bolt (such as Troy, ULM, stAte, etc.).

IF you got a year or two of that...then there'd be a situation where perhaps we could get rid of the prisoners dilemma.

Wake me up when the dominoes start to fall.

(07-04-2015 02:35 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Wake me up when the dominoes start to fall.

No need to wake you, by the time LU wakes up for the phone to ring, UT Chattanooga will be ready to move and they'll get the call you were waiting on.

(07-01-2015 08:48 AM)Beltfan Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 05:04 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  You saw it here first, or second.

I just don't see UH being invited to the Big 12, unless of course Texas jumps to the PAC12 and Oklahoma to the SEC.

If Texas and OK leave the Big XII will no longer be a p5 league, you can book that, it will go the way of the Big East Football.

(07-04-2015 08:10 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 08:48 AM)Beltfan Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 05:04 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  You saw it here first, or second.

I just don't see UH being invited to the Big 12, unless of course Texas jumps to the PAC12 and Oklahoma to the SEC.

If Texas and OK leave the Big XII will no longer be a p5 league, you can book that, it will go the way of the Big East Football.

If that were to happen, that is when we would go to the 16-20 team super conferences. And all hell would break loose.

(07-04-2015 08:10 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  

(07-01-2015 08:48 AM)Beltfan Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 05:04 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  You saw it here first, or second.

I just don't see UH being invited to the Big 12, unless of course Texas jumps to the PAC12 and Oklahoma to the SEC.

If Texas and OK leave the Big XII will no longer be a p5 league, you can book that, it will go the way of the Big East Football.

Exactly, and that's why I don't think Texas and Oklahoma will be going anywhere.

(06-30-2015 09:32 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 09:14 PM)moehler Wrote:  cant see Texas, which pretty much rules the Big 12, agreeing to Houston joining, they have enough competition in state at the P5 level, no reason to add another competitor.

The "Tea Sips" don't view Houston as a competitor. . . .

I don't think they thought TCU was a competitor either, but after 3 seasons TCU is 2-1 when they've won less than a quarter of their games and TCU is the one expected to compete for the title. There's no reason why Houston shouldn't be able to find the same success. Even if UT and the aggies take the top 40 instate players there is plenty of talent left over to build a damn good class.

(07-04-2015 01:08 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  If Cincinnati and Houston go to the Big 12, my concern for the Sun Belt would be losing Texas State. UMass and Rice would join the AAC, then Texas State would replace Rice in C-USA.

Of course if UAB turns down for Watts again, then losing one school puts C-USA at 12 and the Sun Belt can emerge unscathed. That only becomes a problem for the Sun Belt if the American doesn't take UMass and C-USA gets reduced to 11 members.

If Texas State leaves the Sun Belt might have to hold its nose and add a Southland school willing to move to FBS, or see if UTA can restart football, if UTA doesn't leave also.

uta has few options sportswise. I doubt if anyone at uta wants to be lumped in with some of the schools mentioned for expansion, but with no football and only recently improving facilities and oly sports, we are the beggars that cant be choosers. we have a long history with u-laf and stAte and nmsu, but if txst left we would lose our only instate rival so it would not be a good deal for us or our fans. without football we should probably be in the mvc or be independent.

(07-07-2015 12:06 AM)nsavandal09 Wrote:  I don't think they thought TCU was a competitor either, but after 3 seasons TCU is 2-1 when they've won less than a quarter of their games and TCU is the one expected to compete for the title. There's no reason why Houston shouldn't be able to find the same success. Even if UT and the aggies take the top 40 instate players there is plenty of talent left over to build a damn good class.

I think the difference between UH and TCU is that TCU was making all kinds of noise prior to being added to the Big XII, while UH has not made that kind of noise.

Not saying that they couldn't if invited, but it'd be a different path for them than it was for TCU.

(07-07-2015 07:26 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(07-04-2015 01:08 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  If Cincinnati and Houston go to the Big 12, my concern for the Sun Belt would be losing Texas State. UMass and Rice would join the AAC, then Texas State would replace Rice in C-USA.

Of course if UAB turns down for Watts again, then losing one school puts C-USA at 12 and the Sun Belt can emerge unscathed. That only becomes a problem for the Sun Belt if the American doesn't take UMass and C-USA gets reduced to 11 members.

If Texas State leaves the Sun Belt might have to hold its nose and add a Southland school willing to move to FBS, or see if UTA can restart football, if UTA doesn't leave also.

uta has few options sportswise. I doubt if anyone at uta wants to be lumped in with some of the schools mentioned for expansion, but with no football and only recently improving facilities and oly sports, we are the beggars that cant be choosers. we have a long history with u-laf and stAte and nmsu, but if txst left we would lose our only instate rival so it would not be a good deal for us or our fans. without football we should probably be in the mvc or be independent.

We can't be cocky about conference affiliation, but all we
need are one or two decent, viable options, which we will always have.