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(07-01-2015 08:01 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  next year if marshall has a down year, they will blame the crash. lol

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Mike Hamrick is an idiot. I'm glad we don't have this goon at ECU anymore.
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(07-06-2015 01:14 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Mike Hamrick is an idiot. I'm glad we don't have this goon at ECU anymore.

Mike Hamrick has done great things at Marshall. Best AD we've ever had even though I dont like the series.
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(07-06-2015 06:47 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 01:14 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Mike Hamrick is an idiot. I'm glad we don't have this goon at ECU anymore.

Mike Hamrick has done great things at Marshall. Best AD we've ever had even though I dont like the series.

He was considered one of the worst at ECU. He did a lot of stupid stuff and alienated people here. Basically spoke with a forked tongue from all i've heard.
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(07-06-2015 07:53 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 06:47 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 01:14 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Mike Hamrick is an idiot. I'm glad we don't have this goon at ECU anymore.

Mike Hamrick has done great things at Marshall. Best AD we've ever had even though I dont like the series.

He was considered one of the worst at ECU. He did a lot of stupid stuff and alienated people here. Basically spoke with a forked tongue from all i've heard.

He's been outstanding at Marshall in every facet possible sans the baseball situation, but that is out of his ultimate control. The land is being held hostage. Typical Huntington business school of thought "my business is worth x but Marshall has all kinds of money so I'll hold out for 2x that amount until I die."

It's absurd. There are two such places that are absolutely stunting Marshall's ability to grow even more from a space standpoint. And they aren't showing any signs of backing down. It's literally wait until the owner dies and see what happens from there. And that's sad. One of the land parcels has buildings with a grand total of six employees...they are security for the abandoned business. They own a large parking lot where their once thriving business filled with employees, to the point they had a special pedestrian red light. Now they hold onto it for dear life. Crazy.

But back to the main point, Hamrick has delivered on every promise here. The athletic department has been building at a rate we haven't seen here in the past.

He's also not afraid to hold his ground and do what's best for Marshall, in spite of popular opinion.
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Facilities - check

Hires - check

Building up the schedule - check

Home and home - Navy, ECU, Pitt, Louisville, NC St just since last yr
More to follow soon.
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(07-06-2015 10:57 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 07:53 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 06:47 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 01:14 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Mike Hamrick is an idiot. I'm glad we don't have this goon at ECU anymore.

Mike Hamrick has done great things at Marshall. Best AD we've ever had even though I dont like the series.

He was considered one of the worst at ECU. He did a lot of stupid stuff and alienated people here. Basically spoke with a forked tongue from all i've heard.

He's been outstanding at Marshall in every facet possible sans the baseball situation, but that is out of his ultimate control. The land is being held hostage. Typical Huntington business school of thought "my business is worth x but Marshall has all kinds of money so I'll hold out for 2x that amount until I die."

It's absurd. There are two such places that are absolutely stunting Marshall's ability to grow even more from a space standpoint. And they aren't showing any signs of backing down. It's literally wait until the owner dies and see what happens from there. And that's sad. One of the land parcels has buildings with a grand total of six employees...they are security for the abandoned business. They own a large parking lot where their once thriving business filled with employees, to the point they had a special pedestrian red light. Now they hold onto it for dear life. Crazy.

But back to the main point, Hamrick has delivered on every promise here. The athletic department has been building at a rate we haven't seen here in the past.

He's also not afraid to hold his ground and do what's best for Marshall, in spite of popular opinion.

Glad he's worked out for you, seriously. He wasn't a good fit here for whatever reason.

Regarding your 1st point, can you blame the landowners? I sure can't. They've got family to think about. If I'm in that situation I hold out until the last possible minute so I can invest / pass down to my son.
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(07-02-2015 11:31 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 10:05 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Hamrick shouldn't be surprised. The bottom line is that nobody cares about Appy State anymore in relation to Marshall sports. We are talking about ties that are only at the FCS Southern Conference level. The majority of those people that did care have since moved on or passed on. Like one poster said on another message board, I would have much rather seen Marshall schedule a game that has some benefit. If we are going to schedule a game with a Sunbelt team, schedule one that might benefit us in recruiting. I think doing a game with a Sunbelt Georgia school would have made more sense. Game with Appy makes no sense at all. Last time they were here they had maybe 300 fans that traveled to the game. Screw that.

You know the beauty of the entire thing? You absolutely hate that we are playing, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. It sticks in your crawl. It eats at you. You have five years to stew over it, and when you leave Boone on the short end of the scoreboard, you'll be even more angry. I'd like to say I can't wait, but I'll be patient. Because I know it will piss off folks like you even more.

This one's like waiting on a fine wine. 04-wine

See that's the problem. Truth is, I could care less that we are playing. This will be your Superbowl but to me this is a waste of what could have been a much more attractive series with a much better school. Simply no reason to schedule this game, this far out. A throw away if you ask me.
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Nothing at all wrong with the ASU series.

No doubt as we type Marshall is riding the highest.

That far away anything could happen. But if Doc stays 3-4 more yrs then the cupboard will be loaded with 3rd and 4th yr players even if he is history and his recruiting has been top ten Go5 since he's been here. #1 CUSA last yr and maybe the yr before as well. Just the truth.
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Superbowl...

Someone thinks highly of themselves. Truth is 50% or more of your home and homes will be of this nature.

You better not lose one of those "throw aways". Some Marshall fans are setting themselves up for disappointment, most have been very respectful. Where's Herdzone, does he still post here or did he change his name to avoid the embarrassment?
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RE: Hamrick disappointed with fans over App State scheduling...
True about the 50%..might be closer to 75. Wrong a little bit about the rest. I haven't read a single Herd post guaranteeing a win like the one ASU guy. Some don't like the series and some fully realize that 1 P5, 2 Go5s and a FCS is about the best we will ever do and are glad about that and don't wish for more. I wouldn't mind a money game ever once in a while but it might deprive fans who travel from 1 home game and many of these guys are faithful donors. So I trust in Hamrick and don't get all upset over trifles.
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(07-07-2015 09:23 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Regarding your 1st point, can you blame the landowners? I sure can't. They've got family to think about. If I'm in that situation I hold out until the last possible minute so I can invest / pass down to my son.

The landowner is Carl Icahn, who is current worth over $21 billion.

I'm sure his family is doing ok.
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(07-07-2015 09:23 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 10:57 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 07:53 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 06:47 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 01:14 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Mike Hamrick is an idiot. I'm glad we don't have this goon at ECU anymore.

Mike Hamrick has done great things at Marshall. Best AD we've ever had even though I dont like the series.

He was considered one of the worst at ECU. He did a lot of stupid stuff and alienated people here. Basically spoke with a forked tongue from all i've heard.

He's been outstanding at Marshall in every facet possible sans the baseball situation, but that is out of his ultimate control. The land is being held hostage. Typical Huntington business school of thought "my business is worth x but Marshall has all kinds of money so I'll hold out for 2x that amount until I die."

It's absurd. There are two such places that are absolutely stunting Marshall's ability to grow even more from a space standpoint. And they aren't showing any signs of backing down. It's literally wait until the owner dies and see what happens from there. And that's sad. One of the land parcels has buildings with a grand total of six employees...they are security for the abandoned business. They own a large parking lot where their once thriving business filled with employees, to the point they had a special pedestrian red light. Now they hold onto it for dear life. Crazy.

But back to the main point, Hamrick has delivered on every promise here. The athletic department has been building at a rate we haven't seen here in the past.

He's also not afraid to hold his ground and do what's best for Marshall, in spite of popular opinion.

Glad he's worked out for you, seriously. He wasn't a good fit here for whatever reason.

Regarding your 1st point, can you blame the landowners? I sure can't. They've got family to think about. If I'm in that situation I hold out until the last possible minute so I can invest / pass down to my son.

Your second point was mentioned by another poster. No sense in me going back to that.

As to your first point, I think this is as fine an example as any when it comes to being the right fit. He alienated the ECU fanbase, for whatever reason, and you guys were not satisfied with his performance at your school.

He has come to Marshall and has shined. Perhaps it's because he's an MU grad, that we understand him and he understands us better (this thread subject notwithstanding). It could be because our previous AD was so bad. Or that none of our previous AD's in the past 20 years made any effort to grow the athletic department.

There's no doubt he alienated some folks with reseating. That was going to happen. The problem wasn't the reseating in so much that it hadn't been done before this season in the first 23 seasons in that stadium. Some people that had sat in the same seats since Sept. 7, 1991, lost their seat. I know the family that sat in front of me since I was 8 lost their seats. I watched their kids grow up (they're now in college) and I work now at the same place one of them did when I first met them. It's a small world. That hurt some fans. I wish the folks who had been season ticket holders in the same spot since 91 would have been protected, but that wasn't my decision and I know the athletic department was VERY careful and very conscientious with this decision. I know they inadvertently messed up one of the largest alumni chapter presidents seating arrangement that he had since 91. He was hurt when he lost his seats, but he went ahead and bought new tickets. Which likely uprooted someone else. It was a trickle effect.

Sorry for losing focus there. My point was, someone who doesn't thrive in one place can still thrive in another. It doesn't mean he's incompetent. Fit matters as much as resume does in many instances. I'm glad we have him. I wish he'd made you guys happier because...he's a Marshall guy, from West Virginia...I hope all our guys in positions of power do well no matter where they are.

But to simplify my point: it really is a case study for hiring the right guy in the right place.
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Well to be fair to Hammy I believe he wanted to hire Doc at ECU when Steve Logan was let go and wasn't allowed to (someone more in the know will have to explain the details of that one). Who knows if over a decade ago Doc was ready to be a head coach, but clearly he'd have done better than JT. If that happened Hammy probably wouldn't be reviled like he is around Greenville.
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Yeah. Its crazy how the same person can be looked at so differently.

He is seriously the best AD Marshall has had in my lifetime, no doubt about that.
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(07-07-2015 04:55 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 09:23 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 10:57 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 07:53 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 06:47 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Mike Hamrick has done great things at Marshall. Best AD we've ever had even though I dont like the series.

He was considered one of the worst at ECU. He did a lot of stupid stuff and alienated people here. Basically spoke with a forked tongue from all i've heard.

He's been outstanding at Marshall in every facet possible sans the baseball situation, but that is out of his ultimate control. The land is being held hostage. Typical Huntington business school of thought "my business is worth x but Marshall has all kinds of money so I'll hold out for 2x that amount until I die."

It's absurd. There are two such places that are absolutely stunting Marshall's ability to grow even more from a space standpoint. And they aren't showing any signs of backing down. It's literally wait until the owner dies and see what happens from there. And that's sad. One of the land parcels has buildings with a grand total of six employees...they are security for the abandoned business. They own a large parking lot where their once thriving business filled with employees, to the point they had a special pedestrian red light. Now they hold onto it for dear life. Crazy.

But back to the main point, Hamrick has delivered on every promise here. The athletic department has been building at a rate we haven't seen here in the past.

He's also not afraid to hold his ground and do what's best for Marshall, in spite of popular opinion.

Glad he's worked out for you, seriously. He wasn't a good fit here for whatever reason.

Regarding your 1st point, can you blame the landowners? I sure can't. They've got family to think about. If I'm in that situation I hold out until the last possible minute so I can invest / pass down to my son.

Your second point was mentioned by another poster. No sense in me going back to that.

As to your first point, I think this is as fine an example as any when it comes to being the right fit. He alienated the ECU fanbase, for whatever reason, and you guys were not satisfied with his performance at your school.

He has come to Marshall and has shined. Perhaps it's because he's an MU grad, that we understand him and he understands us better (this thread subject notwithstanding). It could be because our previous AD was so bad. Or that none of our previous AD's in the past 20 years made any effort to grow the athletic department.

There's no doubt he alienated some folks with reseating. That was going to happen. The problem wasn't the reseating in so much that it hadn't been done before this season in the first 23 seasons in that stadium. Some people that had sat in the same seats since Sept. 7, 1991, lost their seat. I know the family that sat in front of me since I was 8 lost their seats. I watched their kids grow up (they're now in college) and I work now at the same place one of them did when I first met them. It's a small world. That hurt some fans. I wish the folks who had been season ticket holders in the same spot since 91 would have been protected, but that wasn't my decision and I know the athletic department was VERY careful and very conscientious with this decision. I know they inadvertently messed up one of the largest alumni chapter presidents seating arrangement that he had since 91. He was hurt when he lost his seats, but he went ahead and bought new tickets. Which likely uprooted someone else. It was a trickle effect.

Sorry for losing focus there. My point was, someone who doesn't thrive in one place can still thrive in another. It doesn't mean he's incompetent. Fit matters as much as resume does in many instances. I'm glad we have him. I wish he'd made you guys happier because...he's a Marshall guy, from West Virginia...I hope all our guys in positions of power do well no matter where they are.

But to simplify my point: it really is a case study for hiring the right guy in the right place.


You know, thats a bunch of crap about reseating. If they even gave the minimum to the big green, and had season tix since 91, then someone would have had to pay an arm and a leg to get those seats. Maybe they should have given more. Thats the whole point, there are people willing to help move the program forward and give significant amounts of money, then this orogram gives them rewards for that. I have no problem if a donor comes out and gives the school 20k to buy my seats, ill move a row back.... not like there is a bad seat in the house. Who cares.

I love Marshall, not my seats. We rent seats, we don't own them. Im glad that the reseatinf program was introduced, because those who deserve better seats got them.
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I agree with goherd 100%.
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(07-09-2015 12:35 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 04:55 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 09:23 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 10:57 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 07:53 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  He was considered one of the worst at ECU. He did a lot of stupid stuff and alienated people here. Basically spoke with a forked tongue from all i've heard.

He's been outstanding at Marshall in every facet possible sans the baseball situation, but that is out of his ultimate control. The land is being held hostage. Typical Huntington business school of thought "my business is worth x but Marshall has all kinds of money so I'll hold out for 2x that amount until I die."

It's absurd. There are two such places that are absolutely stunting Marshall's ability to grow even more from a space standpoint. And they aren't showing any signs of backing down. It's literally wait until the owner dies and see what happens from there. And that's sad. One of the land parcels has buildings with a grand total of six employees...they are security for the abandoned business. They own a large parking lot where their once thriving business filled with employees, to the point they had a special pedestrian red light. Now they hold onto it for dear life. Crazy.

But back to the main point, Hamrick has delivered on every promise here. The athletic department has been building at a rate we haven't seen here in the past.

He's also not afraid to hold his ground and do what's best for Marshall, in spite of popular opinion.

Glad he's worked out for you, seriously. He wasn't a good fit here for whatever reason.

Regarding your 1st point, can you blame the landowners? I sure can't. They've got family to think about. If I'm in that situation I hold out until the last possible minute so I can invest / pass down to my son.

Your second point was mentioned by another poster. No sense in me going back to that.

As to your first point, I think this is as fine an example as any when it comes to being the right fit. He alienated the ECU fanbase, for whatever reason, and you guys were not satisfied with his performance at your school.

He has come to Marshall and has shined. Perhaps it's because he's an MU grad, that we understand him and he understands us better (this thread subject notwithstanding). It could be because our previous AD was so bad. Or that none of our previous AD's in the past 20 years made any effort to grow the athletic department.

There's no doubt he alienated some folks with reseating. That was going to happen. The problem wasn't the reseating in so much that it hadn't been done before this season in the first 23 seasons in that stadium. Some people that had sat in the same seats since Sept. 7, 1991, lost their seat. I know the family that sat in front of me since I was 8 lost their seats. I watched their kids grow up (they're now in college) and I work now at the same place one of them did when I first met them. It's a small world. That hurt some fans. I wish the folks who had been season ticket holders in the same spot since 91 would have been protected, but that wasn't my decision and I know the athletic department was VERY careful and very conscientious with this decision. I know they inadvertently messed up one of the largest alumni chapter presidents seating arrangement that he had since 91. He was hurt when he lost his seats, but he went ahead and bought new tickets. Which likely uprooted someone else. It was a trickle effect.

Sorry for losing focus there. My point was, someone who doesn't thrive in one place can still thrive in another. It doesn't mean he's incompetent. Fit matters as much as resume does in many instances. I'm glad we have him. I wish he'd made you guys happier because...he's a Marshall guy, from West Virginia...I hope all our guys in positions of power do well no matter where they are.

But to simplify my point: it really is a case study for hiring the right guy in the right place.


You know, thats a bunch of crap about reseating. If they even gave the minimum to the big green, and had season tix since 91, then someone would have had to pay an arm and a leg to get those seats. Maybe they should have given more. Thats the whole point, there are people willing to help move the program forward and give significant amounts of money, then this orogram gives them rewards for that. I have no problem if a donor comes out and gives the school 20k to buy my seats, ill move a row back.... not like there is a bad seat in the house. Who cares.

I love Marshall, not my seats. We rent seats, we don't own them. Im glad that the reseatinf program was introduced, because those who deserve better seats got them.

It literally shuffled people around. I don't disagree with the idea behind it, but "they should have given more" is a very, very small-minded statement.

You don't alienate fans who pay good money to go to your games regularly. And people like you jumping on those fans is no way to help grow your fanbase. Season ticket sales stagnated last year when it was built as a big year.

Never, ever, tell someone how to spend their money. They will drop you in a heartbeat, and I don't blame them. I'm glad I don't sit anywhere near a superfan like you. I wouldn't want to hear you tell me how much more you deserve than a group of 8-10 people who bought tickets in a block since 1991, who were there for the first choose your seat day. Those folks couldn't even get blocked back together in a reasonable seat.

Truth is, I donate, and my family donates. If my seats had been gone, I would have been gone, too. If I'm not worthy of the seats I've had since the stadium opened, then the school wouldn't be worthy of my money.

Show loyalty to those who show long-time loyalty to you, and things go much smoother.

But I digress. When you screw up an alumni chapter president, one who has been the most influential in an entire region of the state, who has been active with events for years, that needed looked into.

All of that said, reseating should have started in 1995. But when you're 23 seasons in, you do get attached. Especially if you've bought tickets in the exact same seats for 23 years, and you've gotten to know the people around you, for nearly a quarter of a century.
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(07-09-2015 11:58 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  
(07-09-2015 12:35 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 04:55 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 09:23 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 10:57 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  He's been outstanding at Marshall in every facet possible sans the baseball situation, but that is out of his ultimate control. The land is being held hostage. Typical Huntington business school of thought "my business is worth x but Marshall has all kinds of money so I'll hold out for 2x that amount until I die."

It's absurd. There are two such places that are absolutely stunting Marshall's ability to grow even more from a space standpoint. And they aren't showing any signs of backing down. It's literally wait until the owner dies and see what happens from there. And that's sad. One of the land parcels has buildings with a grand total of six employees...they are security for the abandoned business. They own a large parking lot where their once thriving business filled with employees, to the point they had a special pedestrian red light. Now they hold onto it for dear life. Crazy.

But back to the main point, Hamrick has delivered on every promise here. The athletic department has been building at a rate we haven't seen here in the past.

He's also not afraid to hold his ground and do what's best for Marshall, in spite of popular opinion.

Glad he's worked out for you, seriously. He wasn't a good fit here for whatever reason.

Regarding your 1st point, can you blame the landowners? I sure can't. They've got family to think about. If I'm in that situation I hold out until the last possible minute so I can invest / pass down to my son.

Your second point was mentioned by another poster. No sense in me going back to that.

As to your first point, I think this is as fine an example as any when it comes to being the right fit. He alienated the ECU fanbase, for whatever reason, and you guys were not satisfied with his performance at your school.

He has come to Marshall and has shined. Perhaps it's because he's an MU grad, that we understand him and he understands us better (this thread subject notwithstanding). It could be because our previous AD was so bad. Or that none of our previous AD's in the past 20 years made any effort to grow the athletic department.

There's no doubt he alienated some folks with reseating. That was going to happen. The problem wasn't the reseating in so much that it hadn't been done before this season in the first 23 seasons in that stadium. Some people that had sat in the same seats since Sept. 7, 1991, lost their seat. I know the family that sat in front of me since I was 8 lost their seats. I watched their kids grow up (they're now in college) and I work now at the same place one of them did when I first met them. It's a small world. That hurt some fans. I wish the folks who had been season ticket holders in the same spot since 91 would have been protected, but that wasn't my decision and I know the athletic department was VERY careful and very conscientious with this decision. I know they inadvertently messed up one of the largest alumni chapter presidents seating arrangement that he had since 91. He was hurt when he lost his seats, but he went ahead and bought new tickets. Which likely uprooted someone else. It was a trickle effect.

Sorry for losing focus there. My point was, someone who doesn't thrive in one place can still thrive in another. It doesn't mean he's incompetent. Fit matters as much as resume does in many instances. I'm glad we have him. I wish he'd made you guys happier because...he's a Marshall guy, from West Virginia...I hope all our guys in positions of power do well no matter where they are.

But to simplify my point: it really is a case study for hiring the right guy in the right place.


You know, thats a bunch of crap about reseating. If they even gave the minimum to the big green, and had season tix since 91, then someone would have had to pay an arm and a leg to get those seats. Maybe they should have given more. Thats the whole point, there are people willing to help move the program forward and give significant amounts of money, then this orogram gives them rewards for that. I have no problem if a donor comes out and gives the school 20k to buy my seats, ill move a row back.... not like there is a bad seat in the house. Who cares.

I love Marshall, not my seats. We rent seats, we don't own them. Im glad that the reseatinf program was introduced, because those who deserve better seats got them.

It literally shuffled people around. I don't disagree with the idea behind it, but "they should have given more" is a very, very small-minded statement.

You don't alienate fans who pay good money to go to your games regularly. And people like you jumping on those fans is no way to help grow your fanbase. Season ticket sales stagnated last year when it was built as a big year.

Never, ever, tell someone how to spend their money. They will drop you in a heartbeat, and I don't blame them. I'm glad I don't sit anywhere near a superfan like you. I wouldn't want to hear you tell me how much more you deserve than a group of 8-10 people who bought tickets in a block since 1991, who were there for the first choose your seat day. Those folks couldn't even get blocked back together in a reasonable seat.

Truth is, I donate, and my family donates. If my seats had been gone, I would have been gone, too. If I'm not worthy of the seats I've had since the stadium opened, then the school wouldn't be worthy of my money.

Show loyalty to those who show long-time loyalty to you, and things go much smoother.

But I digress. When you screw up an alumni chapter president, one who has been the most influential in an entire region of the state, who has been active with events for years, that needed looked into.

All of that said, reseating should have started in 1995. But when you're 23 seasons in, you do get attached. Especially if you've bought tickets in the exact same seats for 23 years, and you've gotten to know the people around you, for nearly a quarter of a century.

People still get pissed off at reseating if it is done every 4 years. I saw it happen at ODU where people quit buying tickets because they thought it was unfair when they lost their seats. I can't imagine how pissed everyone would be if it was after 23 years. Was there a reason to not reseat everyone sooner. Also at ODU number of tickets bought and number of years purchasing tickets is factored into the reseating process.
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(07-09-2015 11:58 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  
(07-09-2015 12:35 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 04:55 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  
(07-07-2015 09:23 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(07-06-2015 10:57 PM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  He's been outstanding at Marshall in every facet possible sans the baseball situation, but that is out of his ultimate control. The land is being held hostage. Typical Huntington business school of thought "my business is worth x but Marshall has all kinds of money so I'll hold out for 2x that amount until I die."

It's absurd. There are two such places that are absolutely stunting Marshall's ability to grow even more from a space standpoint. And they aren't showing any signs of backing down. It's literally wait until the owner dies and see what happens from there. And that's sad. One of the land parcels has buildings with a grand total of six employees...they are security for the abandoned business. They own a large parking lot where their once thriving business filled with employees, to the point they had a special pedestrian red light. Now they hold onto it for dear life. Crazy.

But back to the main point, Hamrick has delivered on every promise here. The athletic department has been building at a rate we haven't seen here in the past.

He's also not afraid to hold his ground and do what's best for Marshall, in spite of popular opinion.

Glad he's worked out for you, seriously. He wasn't a good fit here for whatever reason.

Regarding your 1st point, can you blame the landowners? I sure can't. They've got family to think about. If I'm in that situation I hold out until the last possible minute so I can invest / pass down to my son.

Your second point was mentioned by another poster. No sense in me going back to that.

As to your first point, I think this is as fine an example as any when it comes to being the right fit. He alienated the ECU fanbase, for whatever reason, and you guys were not satisfied with his performance at your school.

He has come to Marshall and has shined. Perhaps it's because he's an MU grad, that we understand him and he understands us better (this thread subject notwithstanding). It could be because our previous AD was so bad. Or that none of our previous AD's in the past 20 years made any effort to grow the athletic department.

There's no doubt he alienated some folks with reseating. That was going to happen. The problem wasn't the reseating in so much that it hadn't been done before this season in the first 23 seasons in that stadium. Some people that had sat in the same seats since Sept. 7, 1991, lost their seat. I know the family that sat in front of me since I was 8 lost their seats. I watched their kids grow up (they're now in college) and I work now at the same place one of them did when I first met them. It's a small world. That hurt some fans. I wish the folks who had been season ticket holders in the same spot since 91 would have been protected, but that wasn't my decision and I know the athletic department was VERY careful and very conscientious with this decision. I know they inadvertently messed up one of the largest alumni chapter presidents seating arrangement that he had since 91. He was hurt when he lost his seats, but he went ahead and bought new tickets. Which likely uprooted someone else. It was a trickle effect.

Sorry for losing focus there. My point was, someone who doesn't thrive in one place can still thrive in another. It doesn't mean he's incompetent. Fit matters as much as resume does in many instances. I'm glad we have him. I wish he'd made you guys happier because...he's a Marshall guy, from West Virginia...I hope all our guys in positions of power do well no matter where they are.

But to simplify my point: it really is a case study for hiring the right guy in the right place.


You know, thats a bunch of crap about reseating. If they even gave the minimum to the big green, and had season tix since 91, then someone would have had to pay an arm and a leg to get those seats. Maybe they should have given more. Thats the whole point, there are people willing to help move the program forward and give significant amounts of money, then this orogram gives them rewards for that. I have no problem if a donor comes out and gives the school 20k to buy my seats, ill move a row back.... not like there is a bad seat in the house. Who cares.

I love Marshall, not my seats. We rent seats, we don't own them. Im glad that the reseatinf program was introduced, because those who deserve better seats got them.

It literally shuffled people around. I don't disagree with the idea behind it, but "they should have given more" is a very, very small-minded statement.

You don't alienate fans who pay good money to go to your games regularly. And people like you jumping on those fans is no way to help grow your fanbase. Season ticket sales stagnated last year when it was built as a big year.

Never, ever, tell someone how to spend their money. They will drop you in a heartbeat, and I don't blame them. I'm glad I don't sit anywhere near a superfan like you. I wouldn't want to hear you tell me how much more you deserve than a group of 8-10 people who bought tickets in a block since 1991, who were there for the first choose your seat day. Those folks couldn't even get blocked back together in a reasonable seat.

Truth is, I donate, and my family donates. If my seats had been gone, I would have been gone, too. If I'm not worthy of the seats I've had since the stadium opened, then the school wouldn't be worthy of my money.

Show loyalty to those who show long-time loyalty to you, and things go much smoother.

But I digress. When you screw up an alumni chapter president, one who has been the most influential in an entire region of the state, who has been active with events for years, that needed looked into.

All of that said, reseating should have started in 1995. But when you're 23 seasons in, you do get attached. Especially if you've bought tickets in the exact same seats for 23 years, and you've gotten to know the people around you, for nearly a quarter of a century.
You are being the small minded one. I am not jumping on other fans, i am jumping on people who attack plans like reseating that help propel our program forward, even if it means some of us smaller fish have to make a sacrifice. I am a super fan, absolutely, i live and breath marshall sports and i have a room dedicated to the herd with tons of memorabilia and collectables, I rarely ever miss any game, and i have been a fan since i was a little boy, and i give a very modest amount, but its what i can give, a few hundred a year, and you know what? I had an opportunity to get BETTER SEATS. So whats that say about those losing seats?

I would HAPPILY MOVE a few rows, or 10, if it meant my school got more much needed funds to help us compete. I have had these seats for about 10 years, and it's called be unselfish. You should try that term on for size. If you would bail on your team because you had to move a few seats back because something good happened for the program, then you aren't a fan at all, you are just a selfish a hole.
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