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(06-27-2015 01:34 PM)airtroop Wrote:  
(06-26-2015 10:08 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  USA defeats China 1-0 !

. . . . Yeah, China . . . You can hack our computers . . . Compromise the personal information of our Federal Workers . . . But on the Soccer Field, our Women own you. So China, you can SUCK IT . . . . USA, USA, USA . . .

Thank you for your interest in the University of South Alabama athletics!

Oh, and I luv me some Hope Solo 03-drunk

eh, ever since seeing a close up of her roast beef, she is just gross to me.
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Moving on from roast beef and inequality, USA beats Germany in the semis 2-0 was #2 v #1 play England or japan in the final this weekend
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(06-30-2015 08:35 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Moving on from roast beef and inequality, USA beats Germany in the semis 2-0 was #2 v #1 play England or japan in the final this weekend

Chances both ways, but as they say a 'fair result' because the US outplayed Germany for most of the game.

That said, US was lucky not to see the red card on the foul in the box.
And the Germany foul appeared to be just outside the area.

But you control what you can, and that doesn't include the ref.

Deft work by Loyd and solid finish by O'Hara for the clincher.
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(06-30-2015 09:02 PM)DoubleAggie Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 08:35 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Moving on from roast beef and inequality, USA beats Germany in the semis 2-0 was #2 v #1 play England or japan in the final this weekend

Chances both ways, but as they say a 'fair result' because the US outplayed Germany for most of the game.

That said, US was lucky not to see the red card on the foul in the box.
And the Germany foul appeared to be just outside the area.

But you control what you can, and that doesn't include the ref.

Deft work by Loyd and solid finish by O'Hara for the clincher.
Agree, would not have been happy with result if not for the clincher, it really affirmed the win and for much of the game we were the better team barring 15 minutes or so in the second half

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That's why you never leave the game in the hands of the ref. US definitely had the better game plan and better play. They were definitely deserving of the win.
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Are we going to have to start our own Soccer thread on here now, so I don't have to constantly bug the AAC board for my soccer fix?
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That, folks, was the REAL Final. They got the benefit of a couple bad calls, but the USA did get the only goal from the run of play, so I'll give it to 'em. Pulling for the USA in the so-called "Final" on Sunday and Germany in the 3rd place game.
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(06-30-2015 09:05 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 09:02 PM)DoubleAggie Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 08:35 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Moving on from roast beef and inequality, USA beats Germany in the semis 2-0 was #2 v #1 play England or japan in the final this weekend

Chances both ways, but as they say a 'fair result' because the US outplayed Germany for most of the game.

That said, US was lucky not to see the red card on the foul in the box.
And the Germany foul appeared to be just outside the area.

But you control what you can, and that doesn't include the ref.

Deft work by Loyd and solid finish by O'Hara for the clincher.
Agree, would not have been happy with result if not for the clincher, it really affirmed the win and for much of the game we were the better team barring 15 minutes or so in the second half

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Not really, dude. Germany controlled the first 15 or so minutes of the first half, and the USA did about the last 30. Germany then came out in the 2nd half and controlled the first part of that also, as they controlled possession of the ball and systematically and slowly built up their attack in the US half of the field. They missed a PK, and the US was then unjustly given one, which they capitalized on. That's when the 2nd half changed. Once Germany was down a goal, they had to get away from the possession build-up and force the issue with a faster attack through longer passes; you could see it. That's really what allowed the US to start getting some momentum back in the 2nd half.

So you could make the argument that the unjustly awarded PK changed the whole complexion of the 2nd half and made Germany abandon their game plan. Of course if Sasic doesn't uncharacteristically miss that PK, game's on. All said, Germany actually out-possessed the USA 52%-48% and outshot them 16-11. The USA's stout defense kept them from getting quality chances though, and the ref did the rest. Besides, the USA really should've been a player down early in the 2nd half anyway because that was a red card.

Like I said though in my other comment, the USA did get the only goal from the run of play, so I'll give it to 'em. I just don't think they controlled the game as you think they did.
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(06-30-2015 11:25 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 09:05 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 09:02 PM)DoubleAggie Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 08:35 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Moving on from roast beef and inequality, USA beats Germany in the semis 2-0 was #2 v #1 play England or japan in the final this weekend

Chances both ways, but as they say a 'fair result' because the US outplayed Germany for most of the game.

That said, US was lucky not to see the red card on the foul in the box.
And the Germany foul appeared to be just outside the area.

But you control what you can, and that doesn't include the ref.

Deft work by Loyd and solid finish by O'Hara for the clincher.
Agree, would not have been happy with result if not for the clincher, it really affirmed the win and for much of the game we were the better team barring 15 minutes or so in the second half

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Not really, dude. Germany controlled the first 15 or so minutes of the first half, and the USA did about the last 30. Germany then came out in the 2nd half and controlled the first part of that also, as they controlled possession of the ball and systematically and slowly built up their attack in the US half of the field. They missed a PK, and the US was then unjustly given one, which they capitalized on. That's when the 2nd half changed. Once Germany was down a goal, they had to get away from the possession build-up and force the issue with a faster attack through longer passes; you could see it. That's really what allowed the US to start getting some momentum back in the 2nd half.

So you could make the argument that the unjustly awarded PK changed the whole complexion of the 2nd half and made Germany abandon their game plan. Of course if Sasic doesn't uncharacteristically miss that PK, game's on. All said, Germany actually out-possessed the USA 52%-48% and outshot them 16-11. The USA's stout defense kept them from getting quality chances though, and the ref did the rest. Besides, the USA really should've been a player down early in the 2nd half anyway because that was a red card.

Like I said though in my other comment, the USA did get the only goal from the run of play, so I'll give it to 'em. I just don't think they controlled the game as you think they did.

it was 51-49, and 15-12. But the thing is, Germany's shots were crap attempts as they only put 1 on target to the US' 5 on target.

Possession might have been barely in favor of Germany, but the US team made the German's play a game different than their own for most of the game. Possession doesn't always tell the whole story. US dominated that game IMO. Sure, Germany had some build up and some good passing early in both halves, but neither amounted to anything.
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From the WaPo:

"Statistically, the U.S. had clear edges in possession percentage, 55-45 (according to FIFA), on-target shots, 3-1, and corner kicks, 6-2."

Probably a lot of noise in the way they try to measure possession
( long balls that pinball around before being claimed for example )
but that was the sense I got watching from behind my IPA.
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(07-01-2015 07:22 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 11:25 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 09:05 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 09:02 PM)DoubleAggie Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 08:35 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Moving on from roast beef and inequality, USA beats Germany in the semis 2-0 was #2 v #1 play England or japan in the final this weekend

Chances both ways, but as they say a 'fair result' because the US outplayed Germany for most of the game.

That said, US was lucky not to see the red card on the foul in the box.
And the Germany foul appeared to be just outside the area.

But you control what you can, and that doesn't include the ref.

Deft work by Loyd and solid finish by O'Hara for the clincher.
Agree, would not have been happy with result if not for the clincher, it really affirmed the win and for much of the game we were the better team barring 15 minutes or so in the second half

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Not really, dude. Germany controlled the first 15 or so minutes of the first half, and the USA did about the last 30. Germany then came out in the 2nd half and controlled the first part of that also, as they controlled possession of the ball and systematically and slowly built up their attack in the US half of the field. They missed a PK, and the US was then unjustly given one, which they capitalized on. That's when the 2nd half changed. Once Germany was down a goal, they had to get away from the possession build-up and force the issue with a faster attack through longer passes; you could see it. That's really what allowed the US to start getting some momentum back in the 2nd half.

So you could make the argument that the unjustly awarded PK changed the whole complexion of the 2nd half and made Germany abandon their game plan. Of course if Sasic doesn't uncharacteristically miss that PK, game's on. All said, Germany actually out-possessed the USA 52%-48% and outshot them 16-11. The USA's stout defense kept them from getting quality chances though, and the ref did the rest. Besides, the USA really should've been a player down early in the 2nd half anyway because that was a red card.

Like I said though in my other comment, the USA did get the only goal from the run of play, so I'll give it to 'em. I just don't think they controlled the game as you think they did.

it was 51-49, and 15-12. But the thing is, Germany's shots were crap attempts as they only put 1 on target to the US' 5 on target.

Possession might have been barely in favor of Germany, but the US team made the German's play a game different than their own for most of the game. Possession doesn't always tell the whole story. US dominated that game IMO. Sure, Germany had some build up and some good passing early in both halves, but neither amounted to anything.

I agree, but I basically had your whole comment covered in mine already when I said, "The USA's stout defense kept them from getting quality chances though...". I gave credit where it's due, but Germany plays a completely different game in that 2nd half if the USA doesn't get that first goal off the bogus PK, or if Sasic (who usually has ice in her veins and is one of the finest finishers in the world) doesn't inexplicably miss hers. The USA took Germany out of their game in the 1st half, but Germany found it again in the 2nd half until they fell behind on the bogus PK and had to switch gears.

To be fair, I do think the better team won, as the USA has had Germany's number in head-to-head. I just don't like to see missed calls by the ref impact a game as much as they did this one, especially since my team got the short end of it (lol). All said though, I'll be pulling for the USA in the Final and Germany in the 3rd place game, though this was really the Final in my eyes.
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(07-01-2015 11:14 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 07:22 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 11:25 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 09:05 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 09:02 PM)DoubleAggie Wrote:  Chances both ways, but as they say a 'fair result' because the US outplayed Germany for most of the game.

That said, US was lucky not to see the red card on the foul in the box.
And the Germany foul appeared to be just outside the area.

But you control what you can, and that doesn't include the ref.

Deft work by Loyd and solid finish by O'Hara for the clincher.
Agree, would not have been happy with result if not for the clincher, it really affirmed the win and for much of the game we were the better team barring 15 minutes or so in the second half

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Not really, dude. Germany controlled the first 15 or so minutes of the first half, and the USA did about the last 30. Germany then came out in the 2nd half and controlled the first part of that also, as they controlled possession of the ball and systematically and slowly built up their attack in the US half of the field. They missed a PK, and the US was then unjustly given one, which they capitalized on. That's when the 2nd half changed. Once Germany was down a goal, they had to get away from the possession build-up and force the issue with a faster attack through longer passes; you could see it. That's really what allowed the US to start getting some momentum back in the 2nd half.

So you could make the argument that the unjustly awarded PK changed the whole complexion of the 2nd half and made Germany abandon their game plan. Of course if Sasic doesn't uncharacteristically miss that PK, game's on. All said, Germany actually out-possessed the USA 52%-48% and outshot them 16-11. The USA's stout defense kept them from getting quality chances though, and the ref did the rest. Besides, the USA really should've been a player down early in the 2nd half anyway because that was a red card.

Like I said though in my other comment, the USA did get the only goal from the run of play, so I'll give it to 'em. I just don't think they controlled the game as you think they did.

it was 51-49, and 15-12. But the thing is, Germany's shots were crap attempts as they only put 1 on target to the US' 5 on target.

Possession might have been barely in favor of Germany, but the US team made the German's play a game different than their own for most of the game. Possession doesn't always tell the whole story. US dominated that game IMO. Sure, Germany had some build up and some good passing early in both halves, but neither amounted to anything.

I agree, but I basically had your whole comment covered in mine already when I said, "The USA's stout defense kept them from getting quality chances though...". I gave credit where it's due, but Germany plays a completely different game in that 2nd half if the USA doesn't get that first goal off the bogus PK, or if Sasic (who usually has ice in her veins and is one of the finest finishers in the world) doesn't inexplicably miss hers. The USA took Germany out of their game in the 1st half, but Germany found it again in the 2nd half until they fell behind on the bogus PK and had to switch gears.

To be fair, I do think the better team won, as the USA has had Germany's number in head-to-head. I just don't like to see missed calls by the ref impact a game as much as they did this one, especially since my team got the short end of it (lol). All said though, I'll be pulling for the USA in the Final and Germany in the 3rd place game, though this was really the Final in my eyes.

if you want to play what ifs... before that, Rapinoe got taken out on a nasty tackle from behind that should have been a second yellow for the german player, which would have put Germany 1 woman down before that PK ever happened.
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(07-01-2015 11:19 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 11:14 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 07:22 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 11:25 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 09:05 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  Agree, would not have been happy with result if not for the clincher, it really affirmed the win and for much of the game we were the better team barring 15 minutes or so in the second half

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Not really, dude. Germany controlled the first 15 or so minutes of the first half, and the USA did about the last 30. Germany then came out in the 2nd half and controlled the first part of that also, as they controlled possession of the ball and systematically and slowly built up their attack in the US half of the field. They missed a PK, and the US was then unjustly given one, which they capitalized on. That's when the 2nd half changed. Once Germany was down a goal, they had to get away from the possession build-up and force the issue with a faster attack through longer passes; you could see it. That's really what allowed the US to start getting some momentum back in the 2nd half.

So you could make the argument that the unjustly awarded PK changed the whole complexion of the 2nd half and made Germany abandon their game plan. Of course if Sasic doesn't uncharacteristically miss that PK, game's on. All said, Germany actually out-possessed the USA 52%-48% and outshot them 16-11. The USA's stout defense kept them from getting quality chances though, and the ref did the rest. Besides, the USA really should've been a player down early in the 2nd half anyway because that was a red card.

Like I said though in my other comment, the USA did get the only goal from the run of play, so I'll give it to 'em. I just don't think they controlled the game as you think they did.

it was 51-49, and 15-12. But the thing is, Germany's shots were crap attempts as they only put 1 on target to the US' 5 on target.

Possession might have been barely in favor of Germany, but the US team made the German's play a game different than their own for most of the game. Possession doesn't always tell the whole story. US dominated that game IMO. Sure, Germany had some build up and some good passing early in both halves, but neither amounted to anything.

I agree, but I basically had your whole comment covered in mine already when I said, "The USA's stout defense kept them from getting quality chances though...". I gave credit where it's due, but Germany plays a completely different game in that 2nd half if the USA doesn't get that first goal off the bogus PK, or if Sasic (who usually has ice in her veins and is one of the finest finishers in the world) doesn't inexplicably miss hers. The USA took Germany out of their game in the 1st half, but Germany found it again in the 2nd half until they fell behind on the bogus PK and had to switch gears.

To be fair, I do think the better team won, as the USA has had Germany's number in head-to-head. I just don't like to see missed calls by the ref impact a game as much as they did this one, especially since my team got the short end of it (lol). All said though, I'll be pulling for the USA in the Final and Germany in the 3rd place game, though this was really the Final in my eyes.

if you want to play what ifs... before that, Rapinoe got taken out on a nasty tackle from behind that should have been a second yellow for the german player, which would have put Germany 1 woman down before that PK ever happened.

Are you talking about the tackle Popp had? Because Popp's tackle on someone was the only foul from either side that I felt should've been a yellow but wasn't, and she didn't have a prior yellow. Besides, the USA should've already been a woman down prior regardless. Look, I gave credit where it was due, and felt the USA deserved it because again, they did have the only goal from the run of play. But I still have a right to whine like a ***** about bad calls (lol). I was just really hoping the German guys and ladies both would've been World Cup champs at the same time, and after getting past the #5 and #3 teams in the previous knockout rounds (while the USA got to play the #28 and #16 teams I might add), I felt the USA was the only last obstacle standing in the way, so you're listening to frustration. lol
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(07-01-2015 12:37 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 11:19 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 11:14 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 07:22 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 11:25 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  Not really, dude. Germany controlled the first 15 or so minutes of the first half, and the USA did about the last 30. Germany then came out in the 2nd half and controlled the first part of that also, as they controlled possession of the ball and systematically and slowly built up their attack in the US half of the field. They missed a PK, and the US was then unjustly given one, which they capitalized on. That's when the 2nd half changed. Once Germany was down a goal, they had to get away from the possession build-up and force the issue with a faster attack through longer passes; you could see it. That's really what allowed the US to start getting some momentum back in the 2nd half.

So you could make the argument that the unjustly awarded PK changed the whole complexion of the 2nd half and made Germany abandon their game plan. Of course if Sasic doesn't uncharacteristically miss that PK, game's on. All said, Germany actually out-possessed the USA 52%-48% and outshot them 16-11. The USA's stout defense kept them from getting quality chances though, and the ref did the rest. Besides, the USA really should've been a player down early in the 2nd half anyway because that was a red card.

Like I said though in my other comment, the USA did get the only goal from the run of play, so I'll give it to 'em. I just don't think they controlled the game as you think they did.

it was 51-49, and 15-12. But the thing is, Germany's shots were crap attempts as they only put 1 on target to the US' 5 on target.

Possession might have been barely in favor of Germany, but the US team made the German's play a game different than their own for most of the game. Possession doesn't always tell the whole story. US dominated that game IMO. Sure, Germany had some build up and some good passing early in both halves, but neither amounted to anything.

I agree, but I basically had your whole comment covered in mine already when I said, "The USA's stout defense kept them from getting quality chances though...". I gave credit where it's due, but Germany plays a completely different game in that 2nd half if the USA doesn't get that first goal off the bogus PK, or if Sasic (who usually has ice in her veins and is one of the finest finishers in the world) doesn't inexplicably miss hers. The USA took Germany out of their game in the 1st half, but Germany found it again in the 2nd half until they fell behind on the bogus PK and had to switch gears.

To be fair, I do think the better team won, as the USA has had Germany's number in head-to-head. I just don't like to see missed calls by the ref impact a game as much as they did this one, especially since my team got the short end of it (lol). All said though, I'll be pulling for the USA in the Final and Germany in the 3rd place game, though this was really the Final in my eyes.

if you want to play what ifs... before that, Rapinoe got taken out on a nasty tackle from behind that should have been a second yellow for the german player, which would have put Germany 1 woman down before that PK ever happened.

Are you talking about the tackle Popp had? Because Popp's tackle on someone was the only foul from either side that I felt should've been a yellow but wasn't, and she didn't have a prior yellow. Besides, the USA should've already been a woman down prior regardless. Look, I gave credit where it was due, and felt the USA deserved it because again, they did have the only goal from the run of play. But I still have a right to whine like a ***** about bad calls (lol). I was just really hoping the German guys and ladies both would've been World Cup champs at the same time, and after getting past the #5 and #3 teams in the previous knockout rounds (while the USA got to play the #28 and #16 teams I might add), I felt the USA was the only last obstacle standing in the way, so you're listening to frustration. lol

haha. i know what you mean. I don't remember which girl it was that tackled Rapnioe, but I remember the announcers showing her, and mentioning she already had a yellow. I might be mistaken though,.

**edit** I bet they were talking about already having a yellow for the tournament, not just this game.
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(07-01-2015 01:11 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  haha. i know what you mean. I don't remember which girl it was that tackled Rapnioe, but I remember the announcers showing her, and mentioning she already had a yellow. I might be mistaken though,.

**edit** I bet they were talking about already having a yellow for the tournament, not just this game.

They were talking about the elbow from Maier when she went up for a ball against Rapinoe, and yes she was on a yellow from earlier in the game. Not deserving of a 2nd yellow in my opinion. 2nd play shown in this video:

https://twitter.com/DTang0426/status/616031620437540864
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(07-01-2015 01:22 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  
(07-01-2015 01:11 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  haha. i know what you mean. I don't remember which girl it was that tackled Rapnioe, but I remember the announcers showing her, and mentioning she already had a yellow. I might be mistaken though,.

**edit** I bet they were talking about already having a yellow for the tournament, not just this game.

They were talking about the elbow from Maier when she went up for a ball against Rapinoe, and yes she was on a yellow from earlier in the game. Not deserving of a 2nd yellow in my opinion. 2nd play shown in this video:

https://twitter.com/DTang0426/status/616031620437540864

ah! that's it. Got the elbow, and the hard tackle confused.
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'Merica! 02-13-banana
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oh man. not sure if anybody watched the England v Japan game last night, but heartbreaking finish for England who scored on their own goal with about a minute to go to give up the lead.

However, they got their goal on a Penalty kick when a player, in true England fashion, flung herself to the ground after being tapped on the side. Typical flopping. Penalty gets called.

Either way, i feel bad for the girl who inadvertently kicked it into her own goal. That's gonna stick with her for the rest of her life.
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Bassett feels less bad about her own goal now as England beats Germany for the Bronze 1-0, tonight is the big 'un
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Should be interesting for USA. Germany shut out back to back, hmmmm.
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