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RE: Phil Steele predicts 4-way tie atop AAC East with UC, ECU, UCF & Temple all go...
(06-18-2015 11:12 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 10:40 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  Well, we all know that recruiting rankings are a foolproof way to predict how good a team will be....

Its really early in the recruiting cycle to be gloating about rankings. Over half the teams in our conference have 5 commitments or less right now. Although, what houston has done so far is impressive, its still a long way from signing day. Gonna have to work hard to keep the kids you currently have committed.

with this big a gap it borderline is, it doesnt guarantee we win it but almost guarantees we are top 3 by default, this is like the gap between fsu and clemson and the rest of the acc

even if we didnt get another commit and the rest of the league gets 25 we'd still have the best recruiting class in the west by a comfortable margin..

our 5 star actually looks pretty secure, our 4star even when he committed was open that he would still be in touch and talking to the bama,lsu, usc, texas and michigan oaches who supposedly want him bad....but as of today he says he's 100% still committed to UH

even if we lost both , we'd still finish with the best class in the west by a wide margin

Its gonna be tough to hold onto the guys you have for the next 8 months. Im just saying its way too early in the recruiting season to gloat about a recruiting ranking on some website. High recruiting rankings do not equal a star player in college, there are busts all the time. Its not an exact science. Its a decent indication they have a lot of talent and potential though.
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RE: Phil Steele predicts 4-way tie atop AAC East with UC, ECU, UCF & Temple all going 6-2
(04-04-2015 02:45 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  
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(04-02-2015 10:37 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Good for recruiting. Younger kids prefer UA to Nike. I hope ucf goes this route when our contract is up.

I have been in the UA corner for UH for a long time. I hope it happens.

Now football I agree UA is becoming the preferred outfitter. Basketball is by a landslide Nike.

Not even close.

http://louisvillesportslive.net/nike-vs-...-football/

Quote:Here is a breakdown of the power conferences – and Notre Dame – in regards of who makes their uniforms, beginning in the 2015-16 season. NOTE: Those schools not mentioned are Nike.

ACC: Boston College-Under Armour (UA), Georgia Tech-Russell Athletic, Louisville-adidas, Miami – adidas, NC State-adidas

Big 10: Indiana-adidas, Michigan-adidas, Nebraska-adidas, Wisconsin-adidas; Maryland-UA, Northwestern-UA,

Big 12: Kansas-adidas, Texas Tech-UA

Pac 12: Arizona State-adidas, UCLA-adidas, Utah-UA

SEC: Auburn-UA, Mississippi State-adidas, South Carolina-UA, Texas A&M-adidas

Independent: Notre Dame-UA

Nike outfits 44 of the 65 power conference schools for 68%

adidas outfits 12 of the 65 power conference schools for 18%

Under Armour outfits 8 of the 65 power conference schools for 12%

Russell Athletic outfits 1 of the 65 power conference schools for 2%

(06-18-2015 11:12 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 10:40 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  Well, we all know that recruiting rankings are a foolproof way to predict how good a team will be....

Its really early in the recruiting cycle to be gloating about rankings. Over half the teams in our conference have 5 commitments or less right now. Although, what houston has done so far is impressive, its still a long way from signing day. Gonna have to work hard to keep the kids you currently have committed.

with this big a gap it borderline is, it doesnt guarantee we win it but almost guarantees we are top 3 by default, this is like the gap between fsu and clemson and the rest of the acc

even if we didnt get another commit and the rest of the league gets 25 we'd still have the best recruiting class in the west by a comfortable margin..

our 5 star actually looks pretty secure, our 4star even when he committed was open that he would still be in touch and talking to the bama,lsu, usc, texas and michigan coaches who supposedly want him bad....but as of today he says he's 100% still committed to UH

even if we lost both , we'd still finish with the best class in the west by a wide margin

Agree Ed as close to a lock as anyone commit we have. Jordan I expect the coaching staff to be sweating come Dec and Jan with him. I think he is a Soft verbal IMO despite his comments.
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RE: Phil Steele predicts 4-way tie atop AAC East with UC, ECU, UCF & Temple all go...
(06-18-2015 10:40 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 10:27 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  It shouldn't surprise anyone why Navy politic for the AAC West...as being with the small private schools (Tulane, SMU, Tulsa), that alone should help Navy win more games...vs a much tougher East (at least as of now).

Navy will say "we wanted TX recruiting exposure for the Academy"...well, I think the entire world already knows about Annapolis.

This is also why some Cinci fans were upset after being put in the much tougher East...as maybe Memphis or Navy might have cake-walks to the West Title in the coming years.

lets pretend as if houston didnt beat memphis last year

id have memphis the favorite navy but cakewalk???

and coming year??????? are you crazy...our regular recruitng classes destryos anyone in the west...now include our dramatically improved recruiting with the new staff...our current recruiting class is #25 in the nation the average of everyone else in the west in #85... memphis and navy cakewalk coming years???? thats the most foolish statement i heard

and navy is in the west simple becuase of recruiting nothing else ...youd understand if you lived in texas...as someone who lived in texas and the northeast..its obvious why they wanted texas. in the north east joining the military for the average person is signing up to die oversees and leaving your families....in texas its just a job and those who come back are heroes ...

if navy start building rivalries with the texas teams the recruiting willl be dramtically easier, just the announcement of going the league has improved their texas standings as is

(a texas Navy commit hanging out the smus qb commit) had 5 other G5 offers

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the atmosphere here is just different, you offer a kid with no offers in the NE, he'll say im not enlisting id rather walkon to a D1, you offer a texas kid with no offers he''ll post it on twitter with a hashtag #D1BOUND

Well, we all know that recruiting rankings are a foolproof way to predict how good a team will be....

Its really early in the recruiting cycle to be gloating about rankings. Over half the teams in our conference have 5 commitments or less right now. Although, what houston has done so far is impressive, its still a long way from signing day. Gonna have to work hard to keep the kids you currently have committed.

Absolutely agree. That said, the level of recruiting at both UH and SMU is definitely going to improve radically because both staffs have been crafted to maximize Texas recruiting. They went about it in different ways. SMU's Morris has a background as a successful long time Texas HS school coach. He understands what works from a HS coaches prospective---plus he has the immediate respect of a number of current Texas HS coaches. He built a very young staff who can still relate to these young kids--many of which were former Texas HS coaches as well. He will be offering scholarships to a highly regarded school that costs nearly 60K a year to attend. He will be working with a zeal and energy that June Jones hasn't shown in years. SMU was getting pretty decent talent under Jones---Morris is going to significantly raise the bar.

Herman comes to Houston fresh off a National Championship and lots of positive national press. He selected a very high quality staff with tons of Texas recruiting experience and built-in networks to area HS schools. Its a very experienced staff with a ton of past success who are all known for being excellent recruiters in the state of Texas. Additionally, Herman's H-Town Takeover effort has been well choreographed and planned. Its a very creative, unique, and effective spin on a strategy that's not new. It shows that he understands young kids and the necessity to heavily use social media if you really want to reach them. Its literally changed the face of Houston recruiting in a few short months.

Given the improved quality of athletes UH and SMU appear to be getting, in conjunction with both hiring much stronger head coaches, I have a feeling the Texas AAC schools are going to be very tough outs going forward.
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RE: Phil Steele predicts 4-way tie atop AAC East with UC, ECU, UCF & Temple all go...
(06-18-2015 10:28 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 07:54 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 06:40 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-17-2015 10:41 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Heard this during his interview on Pirate Radio

http://www.pirateradio1250.com/pod/speci...061615.mp3

- He said that he had never had that happen where his computer formulas predicted a 4-way tie atop one division or conference.

- Has UC likely dropping away games against ECU & Memphis.

- He said that he predicts Boise St to get access because they dodge the top 3 opponents from the other division in the MWC & because of the parity in the AAC.

- He also said that the AAC East was the stronger division

- Says Big 12 is happy right now but that there will likely be 4 16-team 'super' conferences at some point.


- Has ECU's Kurt Benkert as a 'surprise guy' that everyone will know across the country after the season.

This equals 64 teams....which means that nobody in the current G5 gets in and one of the current P5 teams is kicked out. I don't see that happening really.

I could see a new division with 84-ish teams.

just means 1 big 12 gets left behind,

It seems like media members want this 4 16 thing just for simplicity I guess but I continue to believe it's not happening anytime soon if ever. Not because it would be tough to ditch 1 team but because it would require the P5 to work together to determine who gets who and that's not likely. Unless they are going to truly split, form their own organization, and negotiate an NFL like joint TV deal some league would have to take the less valuable properties while others get the prizes. The PAC for example is not gonna be happy to just let the B1G have Texas while they take the scraps or vice versa. So unless there is a titanic shift in the way business is being done there isn't going to be enough agreement to make 4 16 happen.

Agreed, 4x16 is a media driven figment. There is no premise to suggest the ultimate plan is 16 other than media gossip. The B1G admittedly looked at models with 18 teams and they are a key player. The Big12 or the ACC would have to splinter to have four 16 teams and I just dont see it for the Big12. Even though it isn't the greatest of arrangements I think there is some preference to remain together.
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(06-18-2015 06:36 AM)knight-stick Wrote:  The East is clearly the tougher division.

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(06-18-2015 07:54 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 06:40 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-17-2015 10:41 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Heard this during his interview on Pirate Radio

http://www.pirateradio1250.com/pod/speci...061615.mp3

- He said that he had never had that happen where his computer formulas predicted a 4-way tie atop one division or conference.

- Has UC likely dropping away games against ECU & Memphis.

- He said that he predicts Boise St to get access because they dodge the top 3 opponents from the other division in the MWC & because of the parity in the AAC.

- He also said that the AAC East was the stronger division

- Says Big 12 is happy right now but that there will likely be 4 16-team 'super' conferences at some point.


- Has ECU's Kurt Benkert as a 'surprise guy' that everyone will know across the country after the season.

This equals 64 teams....which means that nobody in the current G5 gets in and one of the current P5 teams is kicked out. I don't see that happening really.

I could see a new division with 84-ish teams.

just means 1 big 12 gets left behind,

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Phil Steele predicts 4-way tie atop AAC East with UC, ECU, UCF & Temple all g...
(06-18-2015 11:57 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 10:28 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 07:54 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 06:40 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-17-2015 10:41 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Heard this during his interview on Pirate Radio

http://www.pirateradio1250.com/pod/speci...061615.mp3

- He said that he had never had that happen where his computer formulas predicted a 4-way tie atop one division or conference.

- Has UC likely dropping away games against ECU & Memphis.

- He said that he predicts Boise St to get access because they dodge the top 3 opponents from the other division in the MWC & because of the parity in the AAC.

- He also said that the AAC East was the stronger division

- Says Big 12 is happy right now but that there will likely be 4 16-team 'super' conferences at some point.


- Has ECU's Kurt Benkert as a 'surprise guy' that everyone will know across the country after the season.

This equals 64 teams....which means that nobody in the current G5 gets in and one of the current P5 teams is kicked out. I don't see that happening really.

I could see a new division with 84-ish teams.

just means 1 big 12 gets left behind,

It seems like media members want this 4 16 thing just for simplicity I guess but I continue to believe it's not happening anytime soon if ever. Not because it would be tough to ditch 1 team but because it would require the P5 to work together to determine who gets who and that's not likely. Unless they are going to truly split, form their own organization, and negotiate an NFL like joint TV deal some league would have to take the less valuable properties while others get the prizes. The PAC for example is not gonna be happy to just let the B1G have Texas while they take the scraps or vice versa. So unless there is a titanic shift in the way business is being done there isn't going to be enough agreement to make 4 16 happen.

Agreed, 4x16 is a media driven figment. There is no premise to suggest the ultimate plan is 16 other than media gossip. The B1G admittedly looked at models with 18 teams and they are a key player. The Big12 or the ACC would have to splinter to have four 16 teams and I just dont see it for the Big12. Even though it isn't the greatest of arrangements I think there is some preference to remain together.

Here is the problem with that. The schools with the advantages or b10 will not want to give away their advantage
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RE: Phil Steele predicts 4-way tie atop AAC East with UC, ECU, UCF & Temple all go...
(06-18-2015 07:54 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 06:40 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-17-2015 10:41 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Heard this during his interview on Pirate Radio

http://www.pirateradio1250.com/pod/speci...061615.mp3

- He said that he had never had that happen where his computer formulas predicted a 4-way tie atop one division or conference.

- Has UC likely dropping away games against ECU & Memphis.

- He said that he predicts Boise St to get access because they dodge the top 3 opponents from the other division in the MWC & because of the parity in the AAC.

- He also said that the AAC East was the stronger division

- Says Big 12 is happy right now but that there will likely be 4 16-team 'super' conferences at some point.


- Has ECU's Kurt Benkert as a 'surprise guy' that everyone will know across the country after the season.

This equals 64 teams....which means that nobody in the current G5 gets in and one of the current P5 teams is kicked out. I don't see that happening really.

I could see a new division with 84-ish teams.

just means 1 big 12 gets left behind,

Yep. The one will be Wake Forest or Washington State.
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(06-17-2015 10:41 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Heard this during his interview on Pirate Radio

http://www.pirateradio1250.com/pod/speci...061615.mp3

- He said that he had never had that happen where his computer formulas predicted a 4-way tie atop one division or conference.

- Has UC likely dropping away games against ECU & Memphis.

- He said that he predicts Boise St to get access because they dodge the top 3 opponents from the other division in the MWC & because of the parity in the AAC.

- He also said that the AAC East was the stronger division

- Says Big 12 is happy right now but that there will likely be 4 16-team 'super' conferences at some point.

- Has ECU's Kurt Benkert as a 'surprise guy' that everyone will know across the country after the season.

- Says Big 12 is happy right now but that there will likely be 4 16-team 'super' conferences at some point. There are 64 teams in the P5. (65 with Notre Dame) There will be 64 teams in the 4 s16 team super conferences....

I would say members of the American...better get used to there current home.
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(06-18-2015 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  It shouldn't surprise anyone why Navy politic for the AAC West...as being with the small private schools (Tulane, SMU, Tulsa), that alone should help Navy win more games...vs a much tougher East (at least as of now).

Navy will say "we wanted TX recruiting exposure for the Academy"...well, I think the entire world already knows about Annapolis.

This is also why some Cinci fans were upset after being put in the much tougher East...as maybe Memphis or Navy might have cake-walks to the West Title in the coming years.

Well I do think with the new Houston coach that the west is going to get much more difficult with an improved Houston, Memphis and Navy.

On another note, I agree I think Boise sits in a really good spot this year for another run at the Access bowl. I don't know if any G5 school does as well as Boise at scheduling. They always get a decent enough P-5 school that is considered a "good" win and beat them. This year they have Washington at home, and UVA on the road as well as at BYU. The other potential difficult game for them will be at Utah State and maybe at Colorado St even though they have a new coach and new QB.

Boise State has it made. Very good program in a fairly weak conference. It's a shame BYU didn't stay in the MWC.
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(06-18-2015 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  It shouldn't surprise anyone why Navy politic for the AAC West...as being with the small private schools (Tulane, SMU, Tulsa), that alone should help Navy win more games...vs a much tougher East (at least as of now).

Navy will say "we wanted TX recruiting exposure for the Academy"...well, I think the entire world already knows about Annapolis.

This is also why some Cinci fans were upset after being put in the much tougher East...as maybe Memphis or Navy might have cake-walks to the West Title in the coming years.

People also forget what a good program Tulsa had from between 2003 and 2012. Tulsa only had two losing seasons; they won the Western Division of CUSA 5 times. They went to 8 bowl games and won 5 of them over this s10 year period as well.

Tulsa will get their program turned around and West will be strong.
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(06-19-2015 04:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  It shouldn't surprise anyone why Navy politic for the AAC West...as being with the small private schools (Tulane, SMU, Tulsa), that alone should help Navy win more games...vs a much tougher East (at least as of now).

Navy will say "we wanted TX recruiting exposure for the Academy"...well, I think the entire world already knows about Annapolis.

This is also why some Cinci fans were upset after being put in the much tougher East...as maybe Memphis or Navy might have cake-walks to the West Title in the coming years.

People also forget what a good program Tulsa had from between 2003 and 2012. Tulsa only had two losing seasons; they won the Western Division of CUSA 5 times. They went to 8 bowl games and won 5 of them over this s10 year period as well.

Tulsa will get their program turned around and West will be strong.

Tulsa could potentially be in for a rough time if SMU and Houston become stronger on the recruiting trail. That said, I think Montgomery should have some success recruiting Texas as well---so it may be the Rices, UTSA's, UTEP's ect that struggle.
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(06-19-2015 04:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(06-19-2015 04:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  It shouldn't surprise anyone why Navy politic for the AAC West...as being with the small private schools (Tulane, SMU, Tulsa), that alone should help Navy win more games...vs a much tougher East (at least as of now).

Navy will say "we wanted TX recruiting exposure for the Academy"...well, I think the entire world already knows about Annapolis.

This is also why some Cinci fans were upset after being put in the much tougher East...as maybe Memphis or Navy might have cake-walks to the West Title in the coming years.

People also forget what a good program Tulsa had from between 2003 and 2012. Tulsa only had two losing seasons; they won the Western Division of CUSA 5 times. They went to 8 bowl games and won 5 of them over this s10 year period as well.

Tulsa will get their program turned around and West will be strong.

Tulsa could potentially be in for a rough time if SMU and Houston become stronger on the recruiting trail. That said, I think Montgomery should have some success recruiting Texas as well---so it may be the Rices, UTSA's, UTEP's ect that struggle.

"IF" left out the window at when new stadium arrival... But I know you're aware of it, Attackcoog. 04-cheers
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(06-19-2015 05:02 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(06-19-2015 04:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(06-19-2015 04:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(06-18-2015 08:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  It shouldn't surprise anyone why Navy politic for the AAC West...as being with the small private schools (Tulane, SMU, Tulsa), that alone should help Navy win more games...vs a much tougher East (at least as of now).

Navy will say "we wanted TX recruiting exposure for the Academy"...well, I think the entire world already knows about Annapolis.

This is also why some Cinci fans were upset after being put in the much tougher East...as maybe Memphis or Navy might have cake-walks to the West Title in the coming years.

People also forget what a good program Tulsa had from between 2003 and 2012. Tulsa only had two losing seasons; they won the Western Division of CUSA 5 times. They went to 8 bowl games and won 5 of them over this s10 year period as well.

Tulsa will get their program turned around and West will be strong.

Tulsa could potentially be in for a rough time if SMU and Houston become stronger on the recruiting trail. That said, I think Montgomery should have some success recruiting Texas as well---so it may be the Rices, UTSA's, UTEP's ect that struggle.

"IF" left out the window at when new stadium arrival... But I know you're aware of it, Attackcoog. 04-cheers

I actually agree with AttackCoug which surprises me! Tulsa is that much further behind because Blankenship had fairly bad recruiting not just the last two years when we had few wins. But had bad recruiting probably all four years he and his staff were in charge. That puts Tulsa behind a min. 2 to 3 years in make up recruiting. In a league as tough as the AAC. That is killer. Tulsa will do better than last year but probably is not in for a miracle recovery year. SMU and Houston having some standout recruiting won't help a bit. With a bad defense with no depth Tulsa is going to have to grind out some wins to get back to a decent W/L average. A bit hard to take but that is about where she stands.
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