Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 4h4 hours ago .@CFBPlayoff selection committee will hold final ranking until after Navy-Army game if Navy or Army in running for semifinals or NY6 bowl

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 3h3 hours ago If Navy is highest-ranked Group of 5 champ & loses to Army it would be replaced by next highest-ranked G5 champ in NY6 bowl

Right thing to do...gotta respect the Academies.

(06-16-2015 09:19 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Right thing to do...gotta respect the Academies.

So true --- just glad that the committee saw through the machinations of the MWC commissioner and Marshall.

Good news for the AAC.

So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

Makes sense.

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

I don't have much hope of the AAC ever adding Air Force after the last time the AAC (which still had the "Big East" name at the time) looked at adding western schools. What are our chances with Army, though? Has the AAC ever made an effort to invite them? I don't remember ever hearing about any attempt by the AAC to bring Army in, which is a little surprising considering that Navy is set to officially become an AAC member in less than a month.

(06-19-2015 04:47 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

I don't have much hope of the AAC ever adding Air Force after the last time the AAC (which still had the "Big East" name at the time) looked at adding western schools. What are our chances with Army, though? Has the AAC ever made an effort to invite them? I don't remember ever hearing about any attempt by the AAC to bring Army in, which is a little surprising considering that Navy is set to officially become an AAC member in less than a month.

Aresco tried. Army will never join a conference again. (see conference USA experience of 98-04)

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

"it would be un-American" to not allow the AAC P6 status if all 3 academies were in the AAC. Why isn't it "un-American" right now to deny all 3 academies similar status to the P5? What if Army and Navy joined up with Air Force in the MWC? Would it be "un-American" to deny the MWC P6 status then? You wouldn't be promoting P6 for the MWC if all 3 academies were in it just like you aren't concerned about "similar P5 status" for the Academies now. You only care about the AAC. I HATE this fake concern about the military academies when all your doing is using them in an attempt to promote the AAC.

(06-19-2015 07:20 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

"it would be un-American" to not allow the AAC P6 status if all 3 academies were in the AAC. Why isn't it "un-American" right now to deny all 3 academies similar status to the P5? What if Army and Navy joined up with Air Force in the MWC? Would it be "un-American" to deny the MWC P6 status then? You wouldn't be promoting P6 for the MWC if all 3 academies were in it just like you aren't concerned about "similar P5 status" for the Academies now. You only care about the AAC. I HATE this fake concern about the military academies when all your doing is using them in an attempt to promote the AAC.

No subterfuge here, yes, I like for all the academies to be part of the AAC just for that reason, you are the company you keep, the academies as conference mates, would be very advantageous politically, having just one is working our pretty well.

(06-19-2015 07:45 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 07:20 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

"it would be un-American" to not allow the AAC P6 status if all 3 academies were in the AAC. Why isn't it "un-American" right now to deny all 3 academies similar status to the P5? What if Army and Navy joined up with Air Force in the MWC? Would it be "un-American" to deny the MWC P6 status then? You wouldn't be promoting P6 for the MWC if all 3 academies were in it just like you aren't concerned about "similar P5 status" for the Academies now. You only care about the AAC. I HATE this fake concern about the military academies when all your doing is using them in an attempt to promote the AAC.

No subterfuge here, yes, I like for all the academies to be part of the AAC just for that reason, you are the company you keep, the academies as conference mates, would be very advantageous politically, having just one is working our pretty well.

I commend your honesty. Cheers!

Anyone who has attended a game at a service academy, and/or has served or had a close family member serve... understands the special respect most Americans have for these student athletes. Having Navy onboard, and their fierce loyalty to the AAC (especially when Boise left) has been a HUGE boost for the conference. I'd love even more of that. There is nothing fake, nor subterfuge, about wanting our whole conference to be associated with any/all of the academies!

Some fans of say, the MWC, or the 'Big East' may toss darts of course, as they will at anything that might benefit the AAC. (Reference the idiocy of the MWC attitude towards the Army Navy game...)

Go Navy and bring on Army!

I'll have to admit, as someone skeptical about sharing a conference with a service academy, this appears to be deference being shown to the Naval Academy and having an institution with that type of political capital actually may be advantageous for the conference.

(06-19-2015 09:04 AM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  I'll have to admit, as someone skeptical about sharing a conference with a service academy, this appears to be deference being shown to the Naval Academy and having an institution with that type of political capital actually may be advantageous for the conference.

Make a point to attend a game at Navy

(06-18-2015 06:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

Makes sense.

It doesn't. The powers that be have always been very comfortable with Army, Navy, and Air Force being outside of the AQ/Power leagues. There is no reason to think clustering them in one G5 will cause that attitude to change.

There will never be a 6th Power conference.

That said, it is great to have Navy as an AAC member.

We should continue trying to add Army and Air Force for football. The synergy and political strength gained would be significant, and what better name than "American Athletic Conference"?

The political gain would be the key adding all the Academies to the American. Yes, there would be a benefit to the other Universities due to perception of being in the same conference. In fact, that could be the scenario that eventually makes the American the P6.

From a TV revenue angle and competition level it would not be that much of a boost to the League but in my opinion it is the right thing to do. Also, I believe you would have a lot more Congressional support for our league if that was the reality. JMO

I think the best bet would be Army. Better geographic fit plus they're independent and have no bonds to break. Just not sure Army wants to be bound by conference play -- recall, they left CUSA. But get Army, if you can, and THEN look toward Air Force.

(06-19-2015 10:33 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I think the best bet would be Army. Better geographic fit plus they're independent and have no bonds to break. Just not sure Army wants to be bound by conference play -- recall, they left CUSA. But get Army, if you can, and THEN look toward Air Force.

I hope Army never joins. As a "member", I want what's best for Army. That's independence. I remember the CUSA disaster. Cheers! P.S. Air Force won't join the AAC without Wyoming and Colorado St, there's a special relationship there that I assumed everyone knew about. I was wrong; no one on here knows what I'm talking about probably...good day to all!!

(06-19-2015 07:07 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Army will never join a conference again.

I wouldn't say never -- just not in the immediate future. As our AD repeatedly says, "We are constantly evaluating every aspect of our program."