(06-19-2015 07:45 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 07:20 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

"it would be un-American" to not allow the AAC P6 status if all 3 academies were in the AAC. Why isn't it "un-American" right now to deny all 3 academies similar status to the P5? What if Army and Navy joined up with Air Force in the MWC? Would it be "un-American" to deny the MWC P6 status then? You wouldn't be promoting P6 for the MWC if all 3 academies were in it just like you aren't concerned about "similar P5 status" for the Academies now. You only care about the AAC. I HATE this fake concern about the military academies when all your doing is using them in an attempt to promote the AAC.

No subterfuge here, yes, I like for all the academies to be part of the AAC just for that reason, you are the company you keep, the academies as conference mates, would be very advantageous politically, having just one is working our pretty well.

Based on recent and past comments from Air Force Football HC Troy Calhoun I think itit's evident he isn't by any stretch of the imagination happy with the program in his charge being in the MWC. BSU has MWC Commissioner Thompson trussed up like the Gimp in Pulp Fiction and it's very clear he isn't inclined to step out of his bondage role any time soon. Calhoun knows the mantra for real estate, "Location, location, LOCATION", applies to reaching out to AFA grads and large concentrations of USAF personnel working on bases in a region and that isn't in Boise, ID, Logan UT, or for that matter anywhere in the MWC other than Colorado Springs.

Stats show that Texas is a state that has one of the highest concentrations of grads, especially in the DFW region, and they are the most generous in donating to the USAFA Endowment and AOG. Huge USAF presence in TX in terms of bases, in particular the San Antonio area. Like Navy, Calhoun and his staff recruit heavily out of TX and he wants to play there!

The other regions in the U S. that meet Calhoun's location requirements D.C. south to Florida, with Georgia being another huge recruiting ground and Florida starting to grow in importance. Ohio has produced some of AF's greatest players and playing in that region is important to him as well.

I think Coach Calhoun would have loved to have seen his program move into the AAC, but the former AD helped create the MWC and was never truly interested in joining. The new AD, Jim Knowlton who is an West Point grad, has no such ties or obligations. TC and his program are his prime time vehicle for projecting the mission of the USAFA and the USAF and he knows the stats support where AF should be playing.

Having all three Service Academies in one conference would be a significant coup not just in terms of marketing it's football brand, but also projecting the prestige their respective institutions bring in their missions. There is no doubt that the Army-Navy game is one of college football's greatest traditions and the accommodations recently made for it proves its value remains high. With that said, the AF-Navy game has become one of the top must watch college football heated rivalry games there is to enjoy. While the Army-Navy game is portrayed as "Civil War" with a gentile we are all brothers in arms after the game shine to it, AF vs. Navy and not too far off AF vs. Army, is a brawl between older and younger brothers who truly don't like each other. Ask any Army fan or player how much they've enjoyed the decade of dominance that Navy has rubbed their noses in and you'll quickly understand there's not much civility in their storied rivalry game anymore.

I think the powers that be at Army see being an independent isn't going to cut it much longer and as a self admitted fanatical Falcon fan, I feel comfortable saying that I believe the majority of AF fans, especially their grads, wouldn't be opposed to seeing their football team playing in the AAC.

BOLTS!

SINK NAVY BEAT ARMY

PR

(06-19-2015 09:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 06:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

Makes sense.

It doesn't. The powers that be have always been very comfortable with Army, Navy, and Air Force being outside of the AQ/Power leagues. There is no reason to think clustering them in one G5 will cause that attitude to change.

There will never be a 6th Power conference.


That said, it is great to have Navy as an AAC member.

If there is the separation of the P5 that others speculate that my happen here in the future. If the AAC has all 3 of the academies it will be very difficult if not impossible poltitically to leave a conference behind that host the academies, especially if the case is made by the powers that be in that conference to the politicos. The pols would be very sympathetic and more than likely be persuaded by such an argument, because it would be downright Un-American to leave out the conference that host the academies the "American". In fact I believe the P5 won't allow it to get that far, they'll concede just like they have on this other matter concerning the Army/Navy game and give deference to the "American" to keep the pols out of their business affairs. The American may not be a power conference, in this scenario they'll be treated as such and be dragged along with the P5. Just like the SEC considers Army to be a major or P5 for strength of schedule. If Army is P5 and is in the "American"' how can it not now be considered P5 along with Navy and Air Force and the rest their conference mates who they play against, it flys in the face of logic. Aresco just needs to keep working the phone, nab Army and Air Force which in time I believe, he will do.

(06-21-2015 09:10 AM)thuddriverson Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 07:45 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 07:20 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

"it would be un-American" to not allow the AAC P6 status if all 3 academies were in the AAC. Why isn't it "un-American" right now to deny all 3 academies similar status to the P5? What if Army and Navy joined up with Air Force in the MWC? Would it be "un-American" to deny the MWC P6 status then? You wouldn't be promoting P6 for the MWC if all 3 academies were in it just like you aren't concerned about "similar P5 status" for the Academies now. You only care about the AAC. I HATE this fake concern about the military academies when all your doing is using them in an attempt to promote the AAC.

No subterfuge here, yes, I like for all the academies to be part of the AAC just for that reason, you are the company you keep, the academies as conference mates, would be very advantageous politically, having just one is working our pretty well.

Based on recent and past comments from Air Force Football HC Troy Calhoun I think itit's evident he isn't by any stretch of the imagination happy with the program in his charge being in the MWC. BSU has MWC Commissioner Thompson trussed up like the Gimp in Pulp Fiction and it's very clear he isn't inclined to step out of his bondage role any time soon. Calhoun knows the mantra for real estate, "Location, location, LOCATION", applies to reaching out to AFA grads and large concentrations of USAF personnel working on bases in a region and that isn't in Boise, ID, Logan UT, or for that matter anywhere in the MWC other than Colorado Springs.

Stats show that Texas is a state that has one of the highest concentrations of grads, especially in the DFW region, and they are the most generous in donating to the USAFA Endowment and AOG. Huge USAF presence in TX in terms of bases, in particular the San Antonio area. Like Navy, Calhoun and his staff recruit heavily out of TX and he wants to play there!

The other regions in the U S. that meet Calhoun's location requirements D.C. south to Florida, with Georgia being another huge recruiting ground and Florida starting to grow in importance. Ohio has produced some of AF's greatest players and playing in that region is important to him as well.

I think Coach Calhoun would have loved to have seen his program move into the AAC, but the former AD helped create the MWC and was never truly interested in joining. The new AD, Jim Knowlton who is an West Point grad, has no such ties or obligations. TC and his program are his prime time vehicle for projecting the mission of the USAFA and the USAF and he knows the stats support where AF should be playing.

Having all three Service Academies in one conference would be a significant coup not just in terms of marketing it's football brand, but also projecting the prestige their respective institutions bring in their missions. There is no doubt that the Army-Navy game is one of college football's greatest traditions and the accommodations recently made for it proves its value remains high. With that said, the AF-Navy game has become one of the top must watch college football heated rivalry games there is to enjoy. While the Army-Navy game is portrayed as "Civil War" with a gentile we are all brothers in arms after the game shine to it, AF vs. Navy and not too far off AF vs. Army, is a brawl between older and younger brothers who truly don't like each other. Ask any Army fan or player how much they've enjoyed the decade of dominance that Navy has rubbed their noses in and you'll quickly understand there's not much civility in their storied rivalry game anymore.

I think the powers that be at Army see being an independent isn't going to cut it much longer and as a self admitted fanatical Falcon fan, I feel comfortable saying that I believe the majority of AF fans, especially their grads, wouldn't be opposed to seeing their football team playing in the AAC.

BOLTS!

SINK NAVY BEAT ARMY

Interesting stuff, thanks! Would be great to have AFA onboard someday... You certainly make it sound possible.

Also, welcome to the boards...

You're getting a strong added value in Navy coming into the conference; I think they have a legit shot at contending for a division championship. Army may have finally found the right HC, and I expect to see continued steady improvement in their program. A highly competitive Army-Navy game would be a plus for your conference!

I am obviously very biased towards AF, but last season's victories over Top 25 teams Boise State and Colorado State and achieving their number one of earning the Commander-in-Chief's Trophy says a lot about the strength of the program.

The Western Division of the AAC would certainly be interesting with Navy and Air Force in it.

Mike

(06-21-2015 08:14 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  PR

(06-19-2015 09:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 06:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

Makes sense.

It doesn't. The powers that be have always been very comfortable with Army, Navy, and Air Force being outside of the AQ/Power leagues. There is no reason to think clustering them in one G5 will cause that attitude to change.

There will never be a 6th Power conference.


That said, it is great to have Navy as an AAC member.

If there is the separation of the P5 that others speculate that my happen here in the future. If the AAC has all 3 of the academies it will be very difficult if not impossible poltitically to leave a conference behind that host the academies, especially if the case is made by the powers that be in that conference to the politicos. The pols would be very sympathetic and more than likely be persuaded by such an argument, because it would be downright Un-American to leave out the conference that host the academies the "American". In fact I believe the P5 won't allow it to get that far, they'll concede just like they have on this other matter concerning the Army/Navy game and give deference to the "American" to keep the pols out of their business affairs. The American may not be a power conference in this scenario, but they'll be treated as such and be dragged along with the P5. Just like the SEC considers Army to be a major or P5 for strength of schedule. If Army is P5 and is in the "American"' how can it not now be considered P5 along with Navy and Air Force and the rest their conference mates who they play against, it flys in the face of logic. Aresco just needs to keep working the phone, nab Army and Air Force which in time I believe, he will do.

Personally, I thought the talk of the P5 creating their own division within the NCAA, or even leaving it, was just talk to make sure they got the autonomy they wanted. Now that they have autonomy, seems like talk of the P5 splitting off has gone way down compared to a year ago so I think I was correct.

But even if it is revived, the P5 can easily handle giving the service academies respect and treating them like "Power" opponents while still keeping the "American", as a conference, out. They can just declare Army, Navy, and AFA to be Power opponents, without acknowledging the conference.

(06-22-2015 07:15 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 08:14 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  PR

(06-19-2015 09:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 06:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

Makes sense.

It doesn't. The powers that be have always been very comfortable with Army, Navy, and Air Force being outside of the AQ/Power leagues. There is no reason to think clustering them in one G5 will cause that attitude to change.

There will never be a 6th Power conference.


That said, it is great to have Navy as an AAC member.

If there is the separation of the P5 that others speculate that my happen here in the future. If the AAC has all 3 of the academies it will be very difficult if not impossible poltitically to leave a conference behind that host the academies, especially if the case is made by the powers that be in that conference to the politicos. The pols would be very sympathetic and more than likely be persuaded by such an argument, because it would be downright Un-American to leave out the conference that host the academies the "American". In fact I believe the P5 won't allow it to get that far, they'll concede just like they have on this other matter concerning the Army/Navy game and give deference to the "American" to keep the pols out of their business affairs. The American may not be a power conference in this scenario, but they'll be treated as such and be dragged along with the P5. Just like the SEC considers Army to be a major or P5 for strength of schedule. If Army is P5 and is in the "American"' how can it not now be considered P5 along with Navy and Air Force and the rest their conference mates who they play against, it flys in the face of logic. Aresco just needs to keep working the phone, nab Army and Air Force which in time I believe, he will do.

Personally, I thought the talk of the P5 creating their own division within the NCAA, or even leaving it, was just talk to make sure they got the autonomy they wanted. Now that they have autonomy, seems like talk of the P5 splitting off has gone way down compared to a year ago so I think I was correct.

But even if it is revived, the P5 can easily handle giving the service academies respect and treating them like "Power" opponents while still keeping the "American", as a conference, out. They can just declare Army, Navy, and AFA to be Power opponents, without acknowledging the conference.

LOL....how long did it take for you to think of that scenario, Quo? You've given me my chuckle for the day, I thank you. Like my momma use to tell me all the time. Boy! You are a mess! ;-)

(06-22-2015 07:15 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  ...They can just declare Army, Navy, and AFA to be Power opponents, without acknowledging the conference.

Or just continue to play them like they are. I'm sure Navy's traditional P5 rivals continue to play Navy w/out 'declaring' anything ---

(06-21-2015 09:10 AM)thuddriverson Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 07:45 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(06-19-2015 07:20 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 04:08 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  So if we can go ahead and add Army and Air Force we might be able to lock in that P6 status! It would be un-American to not allow the Academies and fellow Universities similar status to those in the P5.

"it would be un-American" to not allow the AAC P6 status if all 3 academies were in the AAC. Why isn't it "un-American" right now to deny all 3 academies similar status to the P5? What if Army and Navy joined up with Air Force in the MWC? Would it be "un-American" to deny the MWC P6 status then? You wouldn't be promoting P6 for the MWC if all 3 academies were in it just like you aren't concerned about "similar P5 status" for the Academies now. You only care about the AAC. I HATE this fake concern about the military academies when all your doing is using them in an attempt to promote the AAC.

No subterfuge here, yes, I like for all the academies to be part of the AAC just for that reason, you are the company you keep, the academies as conference mates, would be very advantageous politically, having just one is working our pretty well.

Based on recent and past comments from Air Force Football HC Troy Calhoun I think itit's evident he isn't by any stretch of the imagination happy with the program in his charge being in the MWC. BSU has MWC Commissioner Thompson trussed up like the Gimp in Pulp Fiction and it's very clear he isn't inclined to step out of his bondage role any time soon. Calhoun knows the mantra for real estate, "Location, location, LOCATION", applies to reaching out to AFA grads and large concentrations of USAF personnel working on bases in a region and that isn't in Boise, ID, Logan UT, or for that matter anywhere in the MWC other than Colorado Springs.

Stats show that Texas is a state that has one of the highest concentrations of grads, especially in the DFW region, and they are the most generous in donating to the USAFA Endowment and AOG. Huge USAF presence in TX in terms of bases, in particular the San Antonio area. Like Navy, Calhoun and his staff recruit heavily out of TX and he wants to play there!

The other regions in the U S. that meet Calhoun's location requirements D.C. south to Florida, with Georgia being another huge recruiting ground and Florida starting to grow in importance. Ohio has produced some of AF's greatest players and playing in that region is important to him as well.

I think Coach Calhoun would have loved to have seen his program move into the AAC, but the former AD helped create the MWC and was never truly interested in joining. The new AD, Jim Knowlton who is an West Point grad, has no such ties or obligations. TC and his program are his prime time vehicle for projecting the mission of the USAFA and the USAF and he knows the stats support where AF should be playing.

Having all three Service Academies in one conference would be a significant coup not just in terms of marketing it's football brand, but also projecting the prestige their respective institutions bring in their missions. There is no doubt that the Army-Navy game is one of college football's greatest traditions and the accommodations recently made for it proves its value remains high. With that said, the AF-Navy game has become one of the top must watch college football heated rivalry games there is to enjoy. While the Army-Navy game is portrayed as "Civil War" with a gentile we are all brothers in arms after the game shine to it, AF vs. Navy and not too far off AF vs. Army, is a brawl between older and younger brothers who truly don't like each other. Ask any Army fan or player how much they've enjoyed the decade of dominance that Navy has rubbed their noses in and you'll quickly understand there's not much civility in their storied rivalry game anymore.

I think the powers that be at Army see being an independent isn't going to cut it much longer and as a self admitted fanatical Falcon fan, I feel comfortable saying that I believe the majority of AF fans, especially their grads, wouldn't be opposed to seeing their football team playing in the AAC.

BOLTS!

SINK NAVY BEAT ARMY

odd post.....there's a few very odd and inaccurate things about your post which make me wonder a few things. I'll come out with it. What handle did you used to use? Are you actually in the AF? Tell me about Pueblo and Colorado Springs a little...not Wikipedia stuff.

(06-22-2015 08:01 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 07:15 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 08:14 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  PR

(06-19-2015 09:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-18-2015 06:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Makes sense.

It doesn't. The powers that be have always been very comfortable with Army, Navy, and Air Force being outside of the AQ/Power leagues. There is no reason to think clustering them in one G5 will cause that attitude to change.

There will never be a 6th Power conference.


That said, it is great to have Navy as an AAC member.

If there is the separation of the P5 that others speculate that my happen here in the future. If the AAC has all 3 of the academies it will be very difficult if not impossible poltitically to leave a conference behind that host the academies, especially if the case is made by the powers that be in that conference to the politicos. The pols would be very sympathetic and more than likely be persuaded by such an argument, because it would be downright Un-American to leave out the conference that host the academies the "American". In fact I believe the P5 won't allow it to get that far, they'll concede just like they have on this other matter concerning the Army/Navy game and give deference to the "American" to keep the pols out of their business affairs. The American may not be a power conference in this scenario, but they'll be treated as such and be dragged along with the P5. Just like the SEC considers Army to be a major or P5 for strength of schedule. If Army is P5 and is in the "American"' how can it not now be considered P5 along with Navy and Air Force and the rest their conference mates who they play against, it flys in the face of logic. Aresco just needs to keep working the phone, nab Army and Air Force which in time I believe, he will do.

Personally, I thought the talk of the P5 creating their own division within the NCAA, or even leaving it, was just talk to make sure they got the autonomy they wanted. Now that they have autonomy, seems like talk of the P5 splitting off has gone way down compared to a year ago so I think I was correct.

But even if it is revived, the P5 can easily handle giving the service academies respect and treating them like "Power" opponents while still keeping the "American", as a conference, out. They can just declare Army, Navy, and AFA to be Power opponents, without acknowledging the conference.

LOL....how long did it take for you to think of that scenario, Quo? You've given me my chuckle for the day, I thank you. Like my momma use to tell me all the time. Boy! You are a mess! ;-)

Yes, on second thought, my 'scenario' (which took about a half-second to think of) is very outlandish. After all, the P5 has been so deferential to the "American" in the past. They've bent over backwards to treat us special, giving us AQ status in the CFP, counting games against all of us as Power games, making sure we have great bowl ties, twisting ESPN's arm to give us a $20 million per school media deal ... I mean, given how supportive the P5 has been to us, one would have to be crazy or a troll to think they wouldn't include us in the Power club if we added the service academies.

Stupid me indeed...

(06-22-2015 08:14 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  odd post.....there's a few very odd and inaccurate things about your post which make me wonder a few things. I'll come out with it. What handle did you used to use? Are you actually in the AF? Tell me about Pueblo and Colorado Springs a little...not Wikipedia stuff.

There's lots of that here I'm sure ---

(06-22-2015 12:01 AM)thuddriverson Wrote:  You're getting a strong added value in Navy coming into the conference; I think they have a legit shot at contending for a division championship. Army may have finally found the right HC, and I expect to see continued steady improvement in their program. A highly competitive Army-Navy game would be a plus for your conference!

I am obviously very biased towards AF, but last season's victories over Top 25 teams Boise State and Colorado State and achieving their number one of earning the Commander-in-Chief's Trophy says a lot about the strength of the program.

The Western Division of the AAC would certainly be interesting with Navy and Air Force in it.

Mike

When Army and Air Force eventually notice and appreciate the advantages that the AAC affords Navy in (1) superior TV exposure and (2) richer/denser recruiting territory (i.e., eastern metropolitan areas) plus consider the synergy afforded by all 3 academies belonging to the same conference, they may decide to take the leap. I would love it.

(06-22-2015 08:17 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 08:14 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  odd post.....there's a few very odd and inaccurate things about your post which make me wonder a few things. I'll come out with it. What handle did you used to use? Are you actually in the AF? Tell me about Pueblo and Colorado Springs a little...not Wikipedia stuff.

There's lots of that here I'm sure ---

Stolen valor to pretend your a service member if you aren't.

(06-22-2015 08:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 08:01 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 07:15 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-21-2015 08:14 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  PR

(06-19-2015 09:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  It doesn't. The powers that be have always been very comfortable with Army, Navy, and Air Force being outside of the AQ/Power leagues. There is no reason to think clustering them in one G5 will cause that attitude to change.

There will never be a 6th Power conference.


That said, it is great to have Navy as an AAC member.

If there is the separation of the P5 that others speculate that my happen here in the future. If the AAC has all 3 of the academies it will be very difficult if not impossible poltitically to leave a conference behind that host the academies, especially if the case is made by the powers that be in that conference to the politicos. The pols would be very sympathetic and more than likely be persuaded by such an argument, because it would be downright Un-American to leave out the conference that host the academies the "American". In fact I believe the P5 won't allow it to get that far, they'll concede just like they have on this other matter concerning the Army/Navy game and give deference to the "American" to keep the pols out of their business affairs. The American may not be a power conference in this scenario, but they'll be treated as such and be dragged along with the P5. Just like the SEC considers Army to be a major or P5 for strength of schedule. If Army is P5 and is in the "American"' how can it not now be considered P5 along with Navy and Air Force and the rest their conference mates who they play against, it flys in the face of logic. Aresco just needs to keep working the phone, nab Army and Air Force which in time I believe, he will do.

Personally, I thought the talk of the P5 creating their own division within the NCAA, or even leaving it, was just talk to make sure they got the autonomy they wanted. Now that they have autonomy, seems like talk of the P5 splitting off has gone way down compared to a year ago so I think I was correct.

But even if it is revived, the P5 can easily handle giving the service academies respect and treating them like "Power" opponents while still keeping the "American", as a conference, out. They can just declare Army, Navy, and AFA to be Power opponents, without acknowledging the conference.

LOL....how long did it take for you to think of that scenario, Quo? You've given me my chuckle for the day, I thank you. Like my momma use to tell me all the time. Boy! You are a mess! ;-)

Yes, on second thought, my 'scenario' (which took about a half-second to think of) is very outlandish. After all, the P5 has been so deferential to the "American" in the past. They've bent over backwards to treat us special, giving us AQ status in the CFP, counting games against all of us as Power games, making sure we have great bowl ties, twisting ESPN's arm to give us a $20 million per school media deal ... I mean, given how supportive the P5 has been to us, one would have to be crazy or a troll to think they wouldn't include us in the Power club if we added the service academies.

Stupid me indeed...

I never said they would formally recognize the "American" as a PC mate. In the possible scenario of leaving the rest of the FBS (still much speculation they still may separate one day) and separating into their own conference, IMO they would take along the 'American" to avert any political problems (pretty much the gist of my post) if the "American' had the academies as conference mates (does it make the "American' a PC? IDK, but they'll be treated as such, under this scenario). If no separation the status "quo" stays the same, IMO.

(06-22-2015 08:46 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  I never said they would formally recognize the "American" as a PC mate. In the possible scenario of leaving the rest of the FBS (still much speculation they still may separate one day) and separating into their own conference, IMO they would take along the 'American" to avert any political problems (pretty much the gist of my post) if the "American' had the academies as conference mates (does it make the "American' a PC? IDK, but they'll be treated as such, under this scenario). If no separation the status "quo" stays the same, IMO.

We'd be "treated as such" by the P5 in what sense? Would they give us an AQ into a big bowl? No. Would they give us $50m in playoff money? No. Would they make sure we got $25m per school media deal? No. So in what sense would we be treated like P5?

The P5 isn't going to share all of those things, which are the real things that make a conference a "Power" just because we have the three academies. At most, they would just agree to treat games against those academies as Power games. E.g., Notre Dame will always play Navy no matter what division or designation Navy has. They don't need to bring the whole "American" along for that ride, so why would they?

Can't wait to see that Gold and Navy Blue American logo rolled out onto Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium

(06-22-2015 02:41 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Can't wait to see that Gold and Navy Blue American logo rolled out onto Navy–Marine Corps Memorial Stadium

You bet man. Hilarious some folks here thinking that the Navy brand does not 'rub off' on the AAC at all. Navy is very much for this conference. When people watch the Army Navy game, they are going to see very clearly what conference Navy is a part of.... Navy gave up 100+ years of independence to join, and they are all in, and loud&proud members!!

(06-22-2015 08:31 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 08:17 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 08:14 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  odd post.....there's a few very odd and inaccurate things about your post which make me wonder a few things. I'll come out with it. What handle did you used to use? Are you actually in the AF? Tell me about Pueblo and Colorado Springs a little...not Wikipedia stuff.

There's lots of that here I'm sure ---

Stolen valor to pretend your a service member if you aren't.

I'm retired Air Force (AC-130/KC-135) and he seems legit to me...

(06-23-2015 12:21 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 08:31 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 08:17 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 08:14 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  odd post.....there's a few very odd and inaccurate things about your post which make me wonder a few things. I'll come out with it. What handle did you used to use? Are you actually in the AF? Tell me about Pueblo and Colorado Springs a little...not Wikipedia stuff.

There's lots of that here I'm sure ---

Stolen valor to pretend your a service member if you aren't.

I'm retired Air Force (AC-130/KC-135) and he seems legit to me...

where do I even start with his post? "stats show"--no link to back up any of his bizzare 'stats" another point of his," there are no Air Force bases in MWC country, not named Colorado Springs" I'm not in the Air Force or MWC country but I can name..... but I won't even bother with any of this. I won't answer a fool to his folly. That post was so ridiculously fake. Good day to you my brother in arms TexanMark. Cheers to Tinker (OKC) and Kirtland (Albuquerque) Air Force Bases where i have family serving and working now!

(06-23-2015 09:02 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 12:21 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 08:31 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 08:17 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(06-22-2015 08:14 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  odd post.....there's a few very odd and inaccurate things about your post which make me wonder a few things. I'll come out with it. What handle did you used to use? Are you actually in the AF? Tell me about Pueblo and Colorado Springs a little...not Wikipedia stuff.

There's lots of that here I'm sure ---

Stolen valor to pretend your a service member if you aren't.

I'm retired Air Force (AC-130/KC-135) and he seems legit to me...

where do I even start with his post? "stats show"--no link to back up any of his bizzare 'stats" another point of his," there are no Air Force bases in MWC country, not named Colorado Springs" I'm not in the Air Force or MWC country but I can name..... but I won't even bother with any of this. I won't answer a fool to his folly. That post was so ridiculously fake. Good day to you my brother in arms TexanMark. Cheers to Tinker (OKC) and Kirtland (Albuquerque) Air Force Bases where i have family serving and working now!

I know...Mountain Home AFB is near Boise, Ogden Depot/Hill AFB are near Utah St, obviously USAFA and Colo St have bases nearby...I could go on it was pretty ridiculous...but he might be inferring that they recruit most of their cadets back east...and the bulk of Vets live

BTW, his name suggests he is a son of the Thud Pilot. One of the Century Series Aircraft.

For Military History geeks---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_F...underchief