(06-11-2015 04:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 02:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 02:15 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 09:21 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 09:08 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  NIU wont make a lateral move like that...

It's not really lateral to go from the MAC to the AAC, just as it wasn't lateral for Marshall to go from the MAC to C-USA or for all those former C-USA schools to join the Big East/AAC.

AAC offers at least double the TV money, even more money due to NCAA tournament revenue, far more exposure, no Tuesday/Wednesday night games, all games to appear on national networks (none limited to regional airplay), a more challenging football schedule, and one of the top basketball conferences. NIU would join the AAC in a heartbeat.

Even if you argue that the goal is the Big 12, the AAC would be a way for NIU to get there, even if the Big 12 is completely unrealistic.

why would you even reply to that

I clarified that i meant CUSA is a lateral move, not the AAC. Reading beyond the original post would serve you will bud.

(06-11-2015 02:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:10 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  A little late for that. Certainly either Florida Institute of Technology in Melbourne, http://www.fit.edu , or Florida Polytechnic University in Lakeside, https://floridapolytechnic.org/ , can lay claim to "Florida Tech" these days, right?

Maybe University of Orlando? (This is just for argument's sake. Personally, I think UCF perfectly fine as a name for branding and otherwise.)

"Directional school" is what the asshats who dont have much of an argument anymore cling to. Nobody calls NIU northern illinois anymore, its NIU. Same for UCF. Its UCF, not central florida. TCU got past this, and in my opinion so have NIU and UCF

hahaha. TCU is Texas Christian University not Texas Central University. Hahaha

It was Texas CHRISTIAN University. It was a school that overcame a stigma attached to its name by promoting an acronym. That's what I'm hammering home. I'm beginning to question that ECU education of yours...

Like florida state overcame the stigma of Florida by calling itself fsu. Lol. Come on man. TCU is just a lot easier to say. The name of the school is still Texas Christian university snd people call it Texas Christian all the time. Good grief

Nobody calls it texas christian lol. You cant make things up to make your argument more compelling. Or at least nobody on major sports media outlets. And no, this board and your 3 friends dont count

(06-11-2015 04:42 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 04:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 02:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 02:15 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 09:21 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  It's not really lateral to go from the MAC to the AAC, just as it wasn't lateral for Marshall to go from the MAC to C-USA or for all those former C-USA schools to join the Big East/AAC.

AAC offers at least double the TV money, even more money due to NCAA tournament revenue, far more exposure, no Tuesday/Wednesday night games, all games to appear on national networks (none limited to regional airplay), a more challenging football schedule, and one of the top basketball conferences. NIU would join the AAC in a heartbeat.

Even if you argue that the goal is the Big 12, the AAC would be a way for NIU to get there, even if the Big 12 is completely unrealistic.

why would you even reply to that

I clarified that i meant CUSA is a lateral move, not the AAC. Reading beyond the original post would serve you will bud.

(06-11-2015 02:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  "Directional school" is what the asshats who dont have much of an argument anymore cling to. Nobody calls NIU northern illinois anymore, its NIU. Same for UCF. Its UCF, not central florida. TCU got past this, and in my opinion so have NIU and UCF

hahaha. TCU is Texas Christian University not Texas Central University. Hahaha

It was Texas CHRISTIAN University. It was a school that overcame a stigma attached to its name by promoting an acronym. That's what I'm hammering home. I'm beginning to question that ECU education of yours...

Like florida state overcame the stigma of Florida by calling itself fsu. Lol. Come on man. TCU is just a lot easier to say. The name of the school is still Texas Christian university snd people call it Texas Christian all the time. Good grief

Nobody calls it texas christian lol. You cant make things up to make your argument more compelling. Or at least nobody on major sports media outlets. And no, this board and your 3 friends dont count

4 days ago
http://www.sanantoniopost.com/index.php/sid/233573493

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...13580213/

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/spo...?referrer=

Virginia polytechnic institute snd university does not call itself vatech because it's is afraid of the public perception of the word institute either

Get out more. The only stigma is the one you perceive and assign

Finelli is entitled to his opinion but that is all it is. Only the Big 12 knows what G5 schools it is interested in.

(06-11-2015 03:47 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 03:17 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:10 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 12:15 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  UCF would be looked at much differently with a simple name change back to Florida Technological University.

A little late for that. Certainly either Florida Institute of Technology in Melbourne, http://www.fit.edu , or Florida Polytechnic University in Lakeside, https://floridapolytechnic.org/ , can lay claim to "Florida Tech" these days, right?

Maybe University of Orlando? (This is just for argument's sake. Personally, I think UCF perfectly fine as a name for branding and otherwise.)

Let ESPN call FTU 'Florida Tech'. Broadcasters will get tired of saying "Florida Technological University" and shorten it to "Florida Tech" or "Tech". All of a sudden in the laypersons eyes UCF is equivalent to Georgia Tech. Simply changing the name back to FTU would do wonders for branding. Eventually FTU would lay claim to Florida Tech by virtue of being the largest school. I don't know why administrators want to fight the uphill losing perception battle of getting people to think that "central" isn't a direction and directional schools aren't inferior commuter schools. Florida Poly doesn't field any teams.

UCF will never change back to Florida Tech

Dumb move.

(06-11-2015 03:56 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 02:45 PM)otown Wrote:  you lose the directional feel when ESPN decides its time. for a while UCF was C. Florida on espn broadcasts. over the past 2 years, they finally refer to us as UCF.

i think USF and NIU still need to get over this hump with ESPN. im pretty sure the are still referred to N.Illinois and S.Florida....... not 100% sure though.

I believe usf never really pushed for the rebrand and they're okay with South Florida. Usf fans please weigh in.

UCF is also ok with University of Central Florida...but the main complaint was when ESPN (and other TV Networks and media/newspapers) would abbreviate the school name, and they would use (even though helmets said UCF):

C. Florida
C FLA
Cent. FL
Cent. FLA
Cent. Florida
CFU

and so on.

Like the photo previously in the thread...ESPN abbreviated their team to S. Florida (not South Florida, not USF, etc...)

Florida Tech Black Bears would be in the B12 tomorrow. Just has a nice ring to it.

Citrunauts

(06-11-2015 10:05 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Citronauts

FIFY

(06-11-2015 04:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 02:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 02:15 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 09:21 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 09:08 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  NIU wont make a lateral move like that...

It's not really lateral to go from the MAC to the AAC, just as it wasn't lateral for Marshall to go from the MAC to C-USA or for all those former C-USA schools to join the Big East/AAC.

AAC offers at least double the TV money, even more money due to NCAA tournament revenue, far more exposure, no Tuesday/Wednesday night games, all games to appear on national networks (none limited to regional airplay), a more challenging football schedule, and one of the top basketball conferences. NIU would join the AAC in a heartbeat.

Even if you argue that the goal is the Big 12, the AAC would be a way for NIU to get there, even if the Big 12 is completely unrealistic.

why would you even reply to that

I clarified that i meant CUSA is a lateral move, not the AAC. Reading beyond the original post would serve you will bud.

(06-11-2015 02:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:10 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  A little late for that. Certainly either Florida Institute of Technology in Melbourne, http://www.fit.edu , or Florida Polytechnic University in Lakeside, https://floridapolytechnic.org/ , can lay claim to "Florida Tech" these days, right?

Maybe University of Orlando? (This is just for argument's sake. Personally, I think UCF perfectly fine as a name for branding and otherwise.)

"Directional school" is what the asshats who dont have much of an argument anymore cling to. Nobody calls NIU northern illinois anymore, its NIU. Same for UCF. Its UCF, not central florida. TCU got past this, and in my opinion so have NIU and UCF

hahaha. TCU is Texas Christian University not Texas Central University. Hahaha

It was Texas CHRISTIAN University. It was a school that overcame a stigma attached to its name by promoting an acronym. That's what I'm hammering home. I'm beginning to question that ECU education of yours...

Like florida state overcame the stigma of Florida by calling itself fsu. Lol. Come on man. TCU is just a lot easier to say. The name of the school is still Texas Christian university snd people call it Texas Christian all the time. Good grief

he doesn't get it Shere. Like Texas Christian needed "to overcome" the name Texas Christian.--haha. That's ridiculous. I'm beginning to question that Northern Illinois education of his.

(06-11-2015 02:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 02:15 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 09:21 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 09:08 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 07:25 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  NIU needs to step up to CUSA, or AAC in the next go round.

NIU wont make a lateral move like that...

It's not really lateral to go from the MAC to the AAC, just as it wasn't lateral for Marshall to go from the MAC to C-USA or for all those former C-USA schools to join the Big East/AAC.

AAC offers at least double the TV money, even more money due to NCAA tournament revenue, far more exposure, no Tuesday/Wednesday night games, all games to appear on national networks (none limited to regional airplay), a more challenging football schedule, and one of the top basketball conferences. NIU would join the AAC in a heartbeat.

Even if you argue that the goal is the Big 12, the AAC would be a way for NIU to get there, even if the Big 12 is completely unrealistic.

why would you even reply to that

I clarified that i meant CUSA is a lateral move, not the AAC. Reading beyond the original post would serve you will bud.

(06-11-2015 02:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:10 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 12:15 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  UCF would be looked at much differently with a simple name change back to Florida Technological University.

A little late for that. Certainly either Florida Institute of Technology in Melbourne, http://www.fit.edu , or Florida Polytechnic University in Lakeside, https://floridapolytechnic.org/ , can lay claim to "Florida Tech" these days, right?

Maybe University of Orlando? (This is just for argument's sake. Personally, I think UCF perfectly fine as a name for branding and otherwise.)

"Directional school" is what the asshats who dont have much of an argument anymore cling to. Nobody calls NIU northern illinois anymore, its NIU. Same for UCF. Its UCF, not central florida. TCU got past this, and in my opinion so have NIU and UCF

hahaha. TCU is Texas Christian University not Texas Central University. Hahaha

It was Texas CHRISTIAN University. It was a school that overcame a stigma attached to its name by promoting an acronym. That's what I'm hammering home. I'm beginning to question that ECU education of yours...

"It was Texas CHRISTIAN University"---???..IT STILL IS. "Stigma" what on earth are you talking about? Ohio St better shed its stigma and go by OSU right?

(06-11-2015 10:02 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Florida Tech Black Bears would be in the B12 tomorrow. Just has a nice ring to it.

Knights or Citronauts. They also need to go back to the gold helmets and black jerseys. There are all kind of marketing fails right now.

(06-12-2015 07:40 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  "It was Texas CHRISTIAN University"---???..IT STILL IS. "Stigma" what on earth are you talking about? Ohio St better shed its stigma and go by OSU right?

I understand why you're responding to some of the off center comments from the guy, but sometimes ignoring pests is the best way to get rid of them. He's obviously on a mission but it's hard to tell what it is.

(06-10-2015 05:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Whenever I think ECU is a no brainer for the Big 12 I read this stuff and realize every fan of a G5 school thinks their school is a no brainer. NIU will never go anywhere.

Your statement may be true but its only because of our old AD...who is your AD now.

(06-12-2015 07:40 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 02:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 02:15 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 09:21 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 09:08 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  NIU wont make a lateral move like that...

It's not really lateral to go from the MAC to the AAC, just as it wasn't lateral for Marshall to go from the MAC to C-USA or for all those former C-USA schools to join the Big East/AAC.

AAC offers at least double the TV money, even more money due to NCAA tournament revenue, far more exposure, no Tuesday/Wednesday night games, all games to appear on national networks (none limited to regional airplay), a more challenging football schedule, and one of the top basketball conferences. NIU would join the AAC in a heartbeat.

Even if you argue that the goal is the Big 12, the AAC would be a way for NIU to get there, even if the Big 12 is completely unrealistic.

why would you even reply to that

I clarified that i meant CUSA is a lateral move, not the AAC. Reading beyond the original post would serve you will bud.

(06-11-2015 02:17 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:22 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(06-11-2015 01:10 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  A little late for that. Certainly either Florida Institute of Technology in Melbourne, http://www.fit.edu , or Florida Polytechnic University in Lakeside, https://floridapolytechnic.org/ , can lay claim to "Florida Tech" these days, right?

Maybe University of Orlando? (This is just for argument's sake. Personally, I think UCF perfectly fine as a name for branding and otherwise.)

"Directional school" is what the asshats who dont have much of an argument anymore cling to. Nobody calls NIU northern illinois anymore, its NIU. Same for UCF. Its UCF, not central florida. TCU got past this, and in my opinion so have NIU and UCF

hahaha. TCU is Texas Christian University not Texas Central University. Hahaha

It was Texas CHRISTIAN University. It was a school that overcame a stigma attached to its name by promoting an acronym. That's what I'm hammering home. I'm beginning to question that ECU education of yours...

"It was Texas CHRISTIAN University"---???..IT STILL IS. "Stigma" what on earth are you talking about? Ohio St better shed its stigma and go by OSU right?

Hey! Any Buckeye fan will tell you it's tOSU, buddy!

(06-12-2015 08:12 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 07:40 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  "It was Texas CHRISTIAN University"---???..IT STILL IS. "Stigma" what on earth are you talking about? Ohio St better shed its stigma and go by OSU right?

I understand why you're responding to some of the off center comments from the guy, but sometimes ignoring pests is the best way to get rid of them. He's obviously on a mission but it's hard to tell what it is.

Yeah, I fell for it. Good advise. Cheers!

(06-12-2015 08:24 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(06-10-2015 05:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Whenever I think ECU is a no brainer for the Big 12 I read this stuff and realize every fan of a G5 school thinks their school is a no brainer. NIU will never go anywhere.

Your statement may be true but its only because of our old AD...who is your AD now.

Unfortunately NIU could get Bob Bowlsby (Iowa, Stanford, big 12 commish) and it still would be true. NIU will never go anywhere. I don't expect ECU to go to a Cartel conference either before you strike back with an ECU comment. Cheers!

(06-12-2015 08:12 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 07:40 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  "It was Texas CHRISTIAN University"---???..IT STILL IS. "Stigma" what on earth are you talking about? Ohio St better shed its stigma and go by OSU right?

I understand why you're responding to some of the off center comments from the guy, but sometimes ignoring pests is the best way to get rid of them. He's obviously on a mission but it's hard to tell what it is.

It should be QUITE obvious what my mission is...

I think the next announcement, likely a ways off, will be Connecticut and Cincinnati leaving for Power 5 leagues.

(06-12-2015 11:47 PM)Boyee Wrote:  I think the next announcement, likely a ways off, will be Connecticut and Cincinnati leaving for Power 5 leagues.

Five years is a long time. No telling who will make themselves the hot property by that time---or who could be suffering through a bad spell. Timing often plays a part in these decisions.

(06-13-2015 12:20 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-12-2015 11:47 PM)Boyee Wrote:  I think the next announcement, likely a ways off, will be Connecticut and Cincinnati leaving for Power 5 leagues.

Five years is a long time. No telling who will make themselves the hot property by that time---or who could be suffering through a bad spell. Timing often plays a part in these decisions.

Teams don't just get added because they are hot at the time. If that was the case Boise would had been in and Colorado would not had been invited to Pac12

It obviously helps your chances, but is a long term add so you better bring something to that league even when you aren't hot because that will happen also.