Be interesting to see how UAB brings this program back. I guess that means no football next year. Is UAB back as a full member in 2016-17?

(06-08-2015 09:58 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 07:54 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  so why didn't the uab fan base pitch a fit when THOSE things happened? Silence signaled apathy. Bullies only keep at you when you don't fight back day one

A fit was pitched. Not at the level that took place recently but it did happen. Truth is, no UAB supporter ever thought the program would be shutdown even though the signs pointing towards this were present and in motion.

As has been proven these last six months, the reasons Watts gave for shutting down the program were flawed. From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to say lack of fan support led to this. But it was much deeper than that.

25 guys on a message board isnt a fit. a fit is people with actual stick and influence doing what finally got done in the past few months. you betcha the shutdown was a screwjob - but UAB fans have a lot of mirror looking that should be going on that isnt - at least on the interweb. they shoulder a good bit of fault as well.

(06-08-2015 10:29 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 09:58 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 07:54 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  so why didn't the uab fan base pitch a fit when THOSE things happened? Silence signaled apathy. Bullies only keep at you when you don't fight back day one

A fit was pitched. Not at the level that took place recently but it did happen. Truth is, no UAB supporter ever thought the program would be shutdown even though the signs pointing towards this were present and in motion.

As has been proven these last six months, the reasons Watts gave for shutting down the program were flawed. From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to say lack of fan support led to this. But it was much deeper than that.

25 guys on a message board isnt a fit. a fit is people with actual stick and influence doing what finally got done in the past few months. you betcha the shutdown was a screwjob - but UAB fans have a lot of mirror looking that should be going on that isnt - at least on the interweb. they shoulder a good bit of fault as well.

Who said the fit took place on a messageboard? Now if you just want to be a smart ass then I will let it be. Yes, UAB fans should shoulder some fault in this for being complacent. But to say if UAB fans would have went to games this wouldn't be happening is just wrong.

Have a nice day.

(06-08-2015 01:03 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 10:29 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 09:58 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 07:54 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  so why didn't the uab fan base pitch a fit when THOSE things happened? Silence signaled apathy. Bullies only keep at you when you don't fight back day one

A fit was pitched. Not at the level that took place recently but it did happen. Truth is, no UAB supporter ever thought the program would be shutdown even though the signs pointing towards this were present and in motion.

As has been proven these last six months, the reasons Watts gave for shutting down the program were flawed. From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to say lack of fan support led to this. But it was much deeper than that.

25 guys on a message board isnt a fit. a fit is people with actual stick and influence doing what finally got done in the past few months. you betcha the shutdown was a screwjob - but UAB fans have a lot of mirror looking that should be going on that isnt - at least on the interweb. they shoulder a good bit of fault as well.

Who said the fit took place on a messageboard? Now if you just want to be a smart ass then I will let it be. Yes, UAB fans should shoulder some fault in this for being complacent. But to say if UAB fans would have went to games this wouldn't be happening is just wrong.

Have a nice day.

You need to start begging for money the football program. UAB has pissed off practically everyone in alabama snd bham is broke. Good luck on ever playing a down of again. UAB fans did go to games. Hell there just aren't any. But yeah make it where everybody hates UAB by being a smart ass. That should work out well for UAB. Told my neighbor that is a state rep to never give uab football a dime just because of your posts

Have a nice day

(06-08-2015 03:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 01:03 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 10:29 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 09:58 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 07:54 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  so why didn't the uab fan base pitch a fit when THOSE things happened? Silence signaled apathy. Bullies only keep at you when you don't fight back day one

A fit was pitched. Not at the level that took place recently but it did happen. Truth is, no UAB supporter ever thought the program would be shutdown even though the signs pointing towards this were present and in motion.

As has been proven these last six months, the reasons Watts gave for shutting down the program were flawed. From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to say lack of fan support led to this. But it was much deeper than that.

25 guys on a message board isnt a fit. a fit is people with actual stick and influence doing what finally got done in the past few months. you betcha the shutdown was a screwjob - but UAB fans have a lot of mirror looking that should be going on that isnt - at least on the interweb. they shoulder a good bit of fault as well.

Who said the fit took place on a messageboard? Now if you just want to be a smart ass then I will let it be. Yes, UAB fans should shoulder some fault in this for being complacent. But to say if UAB fans would have went to games this wouldn't be happening is just wrong.

Have a nice day.

You need to start begging for money the football program. UAB has pissed off practically everyone in alabama snd bham is broke. Good luck on ever playing a down of again. UAB fans did go to games. Hell there just aren't any. But yeah make it where everybody hates UAB by being a smart ass. That should work out well for UAB. Told my neighbor that is a state rep to never give uab football a dime just because of your posts

Have a nice day

That couldn't be further from the truth. Far more people dislike the Alabama Board of Trustees situation than they do UAB for having a football team. You think UA fans like their president position being a revolving door?

"Gosh darnit someone on a message board ****ed me off! Don't give them a dime!"

Lol. You honestly sound like a closet Alabama fan. And how would UAB have pissed off anyone? Fighting for the right to exists pissed off Alabama fans? UAB being upset with their own board of trustees pissed off Alabama fans? A single professor writing a couple of articles about UA's debt load pissed off Alabama fans? UAB wanting the board to be a little more equal all around pissed off Alabama fans? Because UAB and UAH having just 2 extra representatives is just too much to ask for. 13 of 15 board members being UA affiliated just isn't enough. You've got a small part of Alabama fans who absolutely loathe UAB for next to no reason. The other 80-90% either don't care or support UAB. Haven't heard a single Auburn fan who is against UAB having a football team. Obviously they have their own reasons for supporting UAB, but UAB didn't "piss them off" by simply wanting to exist and that is at least 30% of the state.

You would think as a resident of Alabama you would be pissed off at the UAB administration for wasting millions of dollars shutting it down and then reinstating it within 6 months or these hilarious propaganda commercials that popped up. Or what about all of these higher-ups getting paid ridiculous amounts of cash annually in our state system. We have some of the highest paid administrators in the country and we are one of the most broke states. This state is chock full of good ole' boy politics and you are so concerned over a college you obviously don't support having a football team.

(06-08-2015 05:41 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 03:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 01:03 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 10:29 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 09:58 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  A fit was pitched. Not at the level that took place recently but it did happen. Truth is, no UAB supporter ever thought the program would be shutdown even though the signs pointing towards this were present and in motion.

As has been proven these last six months, the reasons Watts gave for shutting down the program were flawed. From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to say lack of fan support led to this. But it was much deeper than that.

25 guys on a message board isnt a fit. a fit is people with actual stick and influence doing what finally got done in the past few months. you betcha the shutdown was a screwjob - but UAB fans have a lot of mirror looking that should be going on that isnt - at least on the interweb. they shoulder a good bit of fault as well.

Who said the fit took place on a messageboard? Now if you just want to be a smart ass then I will let it be. Yes, UAB fans should shoulder some fault in this for being complacent. But to say if UAB fans would have went to games this wouldn't be happening is just wrong.

Have a nice day.

You need to start begging for money the football program. UAB has pissed off practically everyone in alabama snd bham is broke. Good luck on ever playing a down of again. UAB fans did go to games. Hell there just aren't any. But yeah make it where everybody hates UAB by being a smart ass. That should work out well for UAB. Told my neighbor that is a state rep to never give uab football a dime just because of your posts

Have a nice day

That couldn't be further from the truth. Far more people dislike the Alabama Board of Trustees situation than they do UAB for having a football team. You think UA fans like their president position being a revolving door?

"Gosh darnit someone on a message board ****ed me off! Don't give them a dime!"

Lol. You honestly sound like a closet Alabama fan. And how would UAB have pissed off anyone? Fighting for the right to exists pissed off Alabama fans? UAB being upset with their own board of trustees pissed off Alabama fans? A single professor writing a couple of articles about UA's debt load pissed off Alabama fans? UAB wanting the board to be a little more equal all around pissed off Alabama fans? Because UAB and UAH having just 2 extra representatives is just too much to ask for. 13 of 15 board members being UA affiliated just isn't enough. You've got a small part of Alabama fans who absolutely loathe UAB for next to no reason. The other 80-90% either don't care or support UAB. Haven't heard a single Auburn fan who is against UAB having a football team. Obviously they have their own reasons for supporting UAB, but UAB didn't "piss them off" by simply wanting to exist and that is at least 30% of the state.

You would think as a resident of Alabama you would be pissed off at the UAB administration for wasting millions of dollars shutting it down and then reinstating it within 6 months or these hilarious propaganda commercials that popped up. Or what about all of these higher-ups getting paid ridiculous amounts of cash annually in our state system. We have some of the highest paid administrators in the country and we are one of the most broke states. This state is chock full of good ole' boy politics and you are so concerned over a college you obviously don't support having a football team.

Get out of your bubble man. The same number of people that give a crap about uab show up at their games.

Every alabamian I've talked to thinks uab is a pain in the arse and sick of hearing how uab is some kinda victim. Good grief man most people just see the whole fiasco as typical birmingham stupidity. If you think the citizens of alabama are somehow mad at the UA BOT you are mistaken. Most don't care but they will if UAB tries to get the State to fund more birmingham idiocy.

Congrats of football. Now pay for it and quit your whining and bitching

(06-08-2015 06:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 05:41 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 03:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 01:03 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 10:29 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  25 guys on a message board isnt a fit. a fit is people with actual stick and influence doing what finally got done in the past few months. you betcha the shutdown was a screwjob - but UAB fans have a lot of mirror looking that should be going on that isnt - at least on the interweb. they shoulder a good bit of fault as well.

Who said the fit took place on a messageboard? Now if you just want to be a smart ass then I will let it be. Yes, UAB fans should shoulder some fault in this for being complacent. But to say if UAB fans would have went to games this wouldn't be happening is just wrong.

Have a nice day.

You need to start begging for money the football program. UAB has pissed off practically everyone in alabama snd bham is broke. Good luck on ever playing a down of again. UAB fans did go to games. Hell there just aren't any. But yeah make it where everybody hates UAB by being a smart ass. That should work out well for UAB. Told my neighbor that is a state rep to never give uab football a dime just because of your posts

Have a nice day

That couldn't be further from the truth. Far more people dislike the Alabama Board of Trustees situation than they do UAB for having a football team. You think UA fans like their president position being a revolving door?

"Gosh darnit someone on a message board ****ed me off! Don't give them a dime!"

Lol. You honestly sound like a closet Alabama fan. And how would UAB have pissed off anyone? Fighting for the right to exists pissed off Alabama fans? UAB being upset with their own board of trustees pissed off Alabama fans? A single professor writing a couple of articles about UA's debt load pissed off Alabama fans? UAB wanting the board to be a little more equal all around pissed off Alabama fans? Because UAB and UAH having just 2 extra representatives is just too much to ask for. 13 of 15 board members being UA affiliated just isn't enough. You've got a small part of Alabama fans who absolutely loathe UAB for next to no reason. The other 80-90% either don't care or support UAB. Haven't heard a single Auburn fan who is against UAB having a football team. Obviously they have their own reasons for supporting UAB, but UAB didn't "piss them off" by simply wanting to exist and that is at least 30% of the state.

You would think as a resident of Alabama you would be pissed off at the UAB administration for wasting millions of dollars shutting it down and then reinstating it within 6 months or these hilarious propaganda commercials that popped up. Or what about all of these higher-ups getting paid ridiculous amounts of cash annually in our state system. We have some of the highest paid administrators in the country and we are one of the most broke states. This state is chock full of good ole' boy politics and you are so concerned over a college you obviously don't support having a football team.

Get out of your bubble man. The same number of people that give a crap about uab show up at their games.

Every alabamian I've talked to thinks uab is a pain in the arse and sick of hearing how uab is some kinda victim. Good grief man most people just see the whole fiasco as typical birmingham stupidity. If you think the citizens of alabama are somehow mad at the UA BOT you are mistaken. Most don't care but they will if UAB tries to get the State to fund more birmingham idiocy.

Congrats of football. Now pay for it and quit your whining and bitching

Sorry, I'll go complain to my neighbor Representative now because of someone on a message board.

(06-08-2015 03:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 01:03 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 10:29 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 09:58 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 07:54 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  so why didn't the uab fan base pitch a fit when THOSE things happened? Silence signaled apathy. Bullies only keep at you when you don't fight back day one

A fit was pitched. Not at the level that took place recently but it did happen. Truth is, no UAB supporter ever thought the program would be shutdown even though the signs pointing towards this were present and in motion.

As has been proven these last six months, the reasons Watts gave for shutting down the program were flawed. From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to say lack of fan support led to this. But it was much deeper than that.

25 guys on a message board isnt a fit. a fit is people with actual stick and influence doing what finally got done in the past few months. you betcha the shutdown was a screwjob - but UAB fans have a lot of mirror looking that should be going on that isnt - at least on the interweb. they shoulder a good bit of fault as well.

Who said the fit took place on a messageboard? Now if you just want to be a smart ass then I will let it be. Yes, UAB fans should shoulder some fault in this for being complacent. But to say if UAB fans would have went to games this wouldn't be happening is just wrong.

Have a nice day.

You need to start begging for money the football program. UAB has pissed off practically everyone in alabama snd bham is broke. Good luck on ever playing a down of again. UAB fans did go to games. Hell there just aren't any. But yeah make it where everybody hates UAB by being a smart ass. That should work out well for UAB. Told my neighbor that is a state rep to never give uab football a dime just because of your posts

Have a nice day

Birmingham is a highly democratic area. Goes along with Detroit...It is impossible to run a socialist regime for long.

I have a question:

If you gave UAB $100 million, would they be able to build a sustainable FBS program? One that makes a few pennies per year and gives the fans a "passable" product?

Tulane spent about as much, and we're hearing relatively good news as a result of it. Why can't UAB be given that same opportunity?

The idea is you spend some money and build a product that is worth sustaining - and that's not what you had before.

(06-08-2015 07:55 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  I have a question:

If you gave UAB $100 million, would they be able to build a sustainable FBS program? One that makes a few pennies per year and gives the fans a "passable" product?

Tulane spent about as much, and we're hearing relatively good news as a result of it. Why can't UAB be given that same opportunity?

The idea is you spend some money and build a product that is worth sustaining - and that's not what you had before.

Didn't the second evaluation indicate that the first one made some fundamental accounting errors and that football was a net positive for UAB --- and that, along w/ the resurgent interest, brought UAB football back?

(06-08-2015 07:55 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  I have a question:

If you gave UAB $100 million, would they be able to build a sustainable FBS program? One that makes a few pennies per year and gives the fans a "passable" product?

Tulane spent about as much, and we're hearing relatively good news as a result of it. Why can't UAB be given that same opportunity?

The idea is you spend some money and build a product that is worth sustaining - and that's not what you had before.

ok give them 100 mil

http://sweethomepolitics.com/youll-never...l-tickets/

Plenty of free tickets courtesy of the bham city council

(06-08-2015 10:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 07:55 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  I have a question:

If you gave UAB $100 million, would they be able to build a sustainable FBS program? One that makes a few pennies per year and gives the fans a "passable" product?

Tulane spent about as much, and we're hearing relatively good news as a result of it. Why can't UAB be given that same opportunity?

The idea is you spend some money and build a product that is worth sustaining - and that's not what you had before.

ok give them 100 mil

http://sweethomepolitics.com/youll-never...l-tickets/

Plenty of free tickets courtesy of the bham city council

Yes, bring up something that happened due to years of facility neglect and death-penalty threats from the very people who run it. UAB is a case study in what 20 years of facility neglect and tampering will cause. No one runs a football program by not investing anything into it...ever. It just doesn't happen. USA and Troy both have way better facilities than UAB and they do not have revenue streams or attendance that is somehow leagues greater than UAB.

Honestly, what can your explanation for that possibly be? The only difference is that they are both run by their own board. UAB athletics pulls more revenue.

UAB should've built facilities in the early 2000s. If they had had their own board, they would have. Period. There would've at least been a fundraising attempt by a pro-UAB board. A pro-UAB board would at least look at a stadium proposal. A pro-UAB board would've taken donor money to hire Jimbo Fisher in late 2006. A pro-UAB board would have approved promoting Pat Sullivan to head coach. Neil Callaway would have never been hired.

Keep defending the good ole' boys and use after-the-facts as an excuse. "Hey look, we hamstrung them for 10-15 years and now their attendance is at an all time low, who knew!"

2000 - Paul Bryant Jr. joins UA BOT
2002 - Board threatens UAB athletics with death penalty - http://peninsulaclarion.com/stories/0503...XZsBs9Viko
2006 - Jimbo Fisher/Pat Sullivan head coach hires blocked - http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/9891201
2011 - Stadium Proposal from UAB president not discussed - http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/...p_uab.html
2014 - Donor turf blocked - http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...kille.html -
2014 - Program shut down

Most G5 schools athletics lose money on the balance sheet and "our board" does stuff like this: ''It's either a wakeup call or a death penalty, however they want to handle it,'' - Trustee Joe Fine (2002)

Can you imagine your board of trustee threatening to shutdown your entire athletic program over a 7 million subsidy??? Honestly. Your athletic department's subsidy right now is at nearly 20 million with over 11 million coming from school funds.


I'll leave you with this:

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ast-060315

Skip to 4:49. UAB's head coach met with Saban just to try to speak to Paul Bryant Jr since he was the president of the board of trustees. Saban calls PBJr and he wouldn't even speak to Coach Clark.

The SAME kinds of things happen at UAH. Countless articles of UAH at odds with the board: The hockey shutdown, how the institution is being run, etc. Lol. You can't make this kind of stuff up. But keep defending it.

NY TIMES weighs in on UAB football and, in it's way, southern football generally >>>

Steven Godfrey ‏@38Godfrey Probably the best part of that NYT op-ed is the palpable disgust over the fact that people draw civic pride from a football team

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken Also lacking any context. The Alabama Board of Trustees is a huge part of the UAB story.

HERE >>

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/09/opinio...share&_r=0

(06-08-2015 07:48 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 03:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 01:03 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 10:29 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 09:58 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  A fit was pitched. Not at the level that took place recently but it did happen. Truth is, no UAB supporter ever thought the program would be shutdown even though the signs pointing towards this were present and in motion.

As has been proven these last six months, the reasons Watts gave for shutting down the program were flawed. From an outsider's perspective, it's easy to say lack of fan support led to this. But it was much deeper than that.

25 guys on a message board isnt a fit. a fit is people with actual stick and influence doing what finally got done in the past few months. you betcha the shutdown was a screwjob - but UAB fans have a lot of mirror looking that should be going on that isnt - at least on the interweb. they shoulder a good bit of fault as well.

Who said the fit took place on a messageboard? Now if you just want to be a smart ass then I will let it be. Yes, UAB fans should shoulder some fault in this for being complacent. But to say if UAB fans would have went to games this wouldn't be happening is just wrong.

Have a nice day.

You need to start begging for money the football program. UAB has pissed off practically everyone in alabama snd bham is broke. Good luck on ever playing a down of again. UAB fans did go to games. Hell there just aren't any. But yeah make it where everybody hates UAB by being a smart ass. That should work out well for UAB. Told my neighbor that is a state rep to never give uab football a dime just because of your posts

Have a nice day

Birmingham is a highly democratic area. Goes along with Detroit...It is impossible to run a socialist regime for long.

yeah, NYC and San Fran are terrible, lol

(06-09-2015 09:28 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  NY TIMES weighs in on UAB football and, in it's way, southern football generally >>>

Steven Godfrey ‏@38Godfrey Probably the best part of that NYT op-ed is the palpable disgust over the fact that people draw civic pride from a football team

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken Also lacking any context. The Alabama Board of Trustees is a huge part of the UAB story.

HERE >>

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/09/opinio...share&_r=0

Most folks who live in 38104, around the Liberty Bowl, take pride in Tiger football and try to attend games.

In the past you were not allowed to donate for football facilities. A donor offered to play for a new practice field and was turned away. Just the crap we have felt with. It's going to take years to recover but at least we will now be able to improve facilities

(06-08-2015 07:55 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  I have a question:

If you gave UAB $100 million, would they be able to build a sustainable FBS program? One that makes a few pennies per year and gives the fans a "passable" product?

Tulane spent about as much, and we're hearing relatively good news as a result of it. Why can't UAB be given that same opportunity?

The idea is you spend some money and build a product that is worth sustaining - and that's not what you had before.

Wait... When did Tulane start giving "the fans a 'passable' product?" I'm guessing that Tulane wins 3-or-fewer games this season.

(06-10-2015 02:30 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 07:55 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  I have a question:

If you gave UAB $100 million, would they be able to build a sustainable FBS program? One that makes a few pennies per year and gives the fans a "passable" product?

Tulane spent about as much, and we're hearing relatively good news as a result of it. Why can't UAB be given that same opportunity?

The idea is you spend some money and build a product that is worth sustaining - and that's not what you had before.

Wait... When did Tulane start giving "the fans a 'passable' product?" I'm guessing that Tulane wins 3-or-fewer games this season.

That was just wrong. Funny but wrong

Six pages about UAB football SMH

I see that if you are Mempiss, you can take the team out of CUSA but you cant take the CUSA out of the team.

(06-10-2015 02:42 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Six pages about UAB football SMH

I see that if you are Mempiss, you can take the team out of CUSA but you cant take the CUSA out of the team.

You can adjust the post count per page. Only page two for me