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RE: AAC/MWC Merger: The Real Advantage
You can't just take the highest ranked teams in a merger. TV ratings are as important. Athletic budgets, attendance, recruiting location are other factors.

Take the teams we already have in the AAC (only realistic option) and pull 4-6 new teams like SDSU, Colorado State, Air Force, Army (FB Only), Fresno State, and Boise State. If Army doesn't want to join then add UNLV which would be a good travel designation.

Add Gonzaga, Wichita State, BYU, and VCU in other sports to reduce travel to setup pods in other sportsm
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(05-31-2015 07:48 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  FWIW, I have a thing for Massey's Composite Ratings.

For a given year, the average rating for the worst P5 conference as a whole is usually 50 to 55.

On a good year, the current AAC and MW make ups average 70 to 75 ish.

I have done the work and math and these are the 16 best non-power-5 teams per their 5 year Massey Composite average (2010 season thru 2014 season)....

21 Boise
38 NIU
40 BYU
46 UCF
48 Cincy
53 Utah St
59 SDSU
59 Houston
59 Toledo
60 Navy
63 La Tech
63 Nevada
65 Marshall
65 Tulsa
66 Fresno
68 ECU

Now keep in mind, 5 years or longer is a better measure of a football program's sustained strength and the deeper history is what you want to look at when adding teams solely on football program strength. Saying "Tulsa sucks" is just looking at their last 2 or 3 seasons. Barring a death penalty or hard sanctions, there's a pretty good chance Tulsa is just in a temporary rut.

So the 5-year average rating for the hypothetical conference above as a whole is 54.56....comparable to where the bottom P5 conference lands most seasons.

But let's dig deeper and only look at MW, AAC, BYU, and I'll throw in Army (should AAC try for all 3 military academies).....

21 Boise
40 BYU
46 UCF
48 Cincy
53 Utah St
59 sdsu
59 Houston
60 Navy
63 Nevada
65 Tulsa
66 Fresno
68 ECU
71 AirForce
76 Temple
77 SanJose
80 SMU
-----------------^^^^Best 16 AAC/MW combo^^^^--------------
85 USF
85 UCONN
86 Colo St
92 Hawaii
94 Wyo
95 Memphis
104 Army
107 Tulane
108 UNLV
111 New Mex

The AAC/MW top 16 combo sports a five year conference average rating of 59.5....a little out of P5 range but well within striking distance.

Now take SJSU out, and replace them with a Memphis comparable to say Cincy's average, and this AAC/MW top 16 combo = 57.5

Here's how that last Memphis for SJSU conference would look....

West div
Fresno
SanDiego
Nevada
Boise
Utah St
BYU
Air Force
Navy

East div
Tulsa
SMU
Houston
Cincy
Temple
Memphis
ECU
UCF

Problem is, it wouldn't be the AAC, and as a new conference you'd have to start all over with basketball credits and I believe even have to start over with being bowl eligible period. But I'm not sure what the waiting period is for a new FBS comference if there is any.....AAC was the BigEast and may have been given a pass, so to speak.

Why don't you place in here their average strength of schedule and not just their rankings which by the way are meaning less. The rankings were rendered meaningless when ESPN coined the phrases, "Haves and Have Not's or Power 5 and Gang of 5". 07-coffee3
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RE: AAC/MWC Merger: The Real Advantage
Lets just take the American as it is now:

School
Market

UConn
Hartford + New Haven, Connecticut #30
Temple
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania #4
Navy
Washington DC #8/ Baltimore, Maryland #26
Cincinnati
Cincinnati, Ohio #36
Memphis
Memphis, Tennessee #50
ECU
Greenville-Washington-New Bern, North Carolina #99
UCF
Orlando, Florida #18
South Florida
Tampa, Florida #13
Tulane
New Orleans, Louisiana #51
Houston
Houston, Texas #10
SMU
Dallas / Ft. Worth, Texas #5
Tulsa
Tulsa, Oklahoma #60

Now lets just go to 16 schools by adding 4 more.

NIU
Chicago, Illinois #3
Georgia State
Atlanta, Georgia #9
UAB
Birmingham, Alabama #43
UMass
Amherst, Massachusetts (Boston Access)*#7

UMass at Amherst would have to be declared UMass by the State Legislature and have the rest become satellite campuses of them and invest heavily in Amherst. There are 71K students in the UMass system. That's a lot of Alums to be brought under a single Flagship. This would also give the American the possibility of penetrating the Boston Market (#7), utilizing the new UMAss vs UConn rivalry. The combination of UConn, UMass, Temple and Navy in relative driving distance for New York City fans, would also give the American a chance at the NYC market as well.

Your Divisions would look like this:

East: UConn, UMass, Temple, Navy

North: UC, NIU, Memphis, ECU

South: South Florida, UCF, Georgia State, UAB

West: Houston, Tulane, SMU, Tulsa

The American would have more of the Top DMA's then any other conference and they'd appear in all of them. These DMA's cover the B1G, ACC, SEC and Big 12.

Are these in and of themselves major gets? No. However, by combining them and their proximity to one another, they can become one of the larger conferences in terms of fan support. JMHO. Fans like to go to game even if it isn't all of them. Having a coast to coast conference prohibits this in a major way. Just something to think about. 04-cheers
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This idea makes no sense and is not realistic. The AAC will remain as is for the foreseeable future.
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All I know is as a San Diego State fan I want out of the MWC asap. And the AAC would be a step up, the san jose state invitation showed the poor leadership. Some kind of western alliance that would allow an all sport membership with the likes of byu and Houston would be ideal. Do not do a crazy 20+ team conference or something like that. Let AFA, UNM, Wyoming, and the ones that belong together stay together. BYU would be the big pull (as much as I hate them) if you could get them to agree.
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(06-01-2015 06:30 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Lets just take the American as it is now:

School
Market

UConn
Hartford + New Haven, Connecticut #30
Temple
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania #4
Navy
Washington DC #8/ Baltimore, Maryland #26
Cincinnati
Cincinnati, Ohio #36
Memphis
Memphis, Tennessee #50
ECU
Greenville-Washington-New Bern, North Carolina #99
UCF
Orlando, Florida #18
South Florida
Tampa, Florida #13
Tulane
New Orleans, Louisiana #51
Houston
Houston, Texas #10
SMU
Dallas / Ft. Worth, Texas #5
Tulsa
Tulsa, Oklahoma #60

Now lets just go to 16 schools by adding 4 more.

NIU
Chicago, Illinois #3
Georgia State
Atlanta, Georgia #9
UAB
Birmingham, Alabama #43
UMass
Amherst, Massachusetts (Boston Access)*#7

UMass at Amherst would have to be declared UMass by the State Legislature and have the rest become satellite campuses of them and invest heavily in Amherst. There are 71K students in the UMass system. That's a lot of Alums to be brought under a single Flagship. This would also give the American the possibility of penetrating the Boston Market (#7), utilizing the new UMAss vs UConn rivalry. The combination of UConn, UMass, Temple and Navy in relative driving distance for New York City fans, would also give the American a chance at the NYC market as well.

Your Divisions would look like this:

East: UConn, UMass, Temple, Navy

North: UC, NIU, Memphis, ECU

South: South Florida, UCF, Georgia State, UAB

West: Houston, Tulane, SMU, Tulsa

The American would have more of the Top DMA's then any other conference and they'd appear in all of them. These DMA's cover the B1G, ACC, SEC and Big 12.

Are these in and of themselves major gets? No. However, by combining them and their proximity to one another, they can become one of the larger conferences in terms of fan support. JMHO. Fans like to go to game even if it isn't all of them. Having a coast to coast conference prohibits this in a major way. Just something to think about. 04-cheers

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(06-02-2015 05:55 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-01-2015 06:30 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Lets just take the American as it is now:

School
Market

UConn
Hartford + New Haven, Connecticut #30
Temple
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania #4
Navy
Washington DC #8/ Baltimore, Maryland #26
Cincinnati
Cincinnati, Ohio #36
Memphis
Memphis, Tennessee #50
ECU
Greenville-Washington-New Bern, North Carolina #99
UCF
Orlando, Florida #18
South Florida
Tampa, Florida #13
Tulane
New Orleans, Louisiana #51
Houston
Houston, Texas #10
SMU
Dallas / Ft. Worth, Texas #5
Tulsa
Tulsa, Oklahoma #60

Now lets just go to 16 schools by adding 4 more.

NIU
Chicago, Illinois #3
Georgia State
Atlanta, Georgia #9
UAB
Birmingham, Alabama #43
UMass
Amherst, Massachusetts (Boston Access)*#7

UMass at Amherst would have to be declared UMass by the State Legislature and have the rest become satellite campuses of them and invest heavily in Amherst. There are 71K students in the UMass system. That's a lot of Alums to be brought under a single Flagship. This would also give the American the possibility of penetrating the Boston Market (#7), utilizing the new UMAss vs UConn rivalry. The combination of UConn, UMass, Temple and Navy in relative driving distance for New York City fans, would also give the American a chance at the NYC market as well.

Your Divisions would look like this:

East: UConn, UMass, Temple, Navy

North: UC, NIU, Memphis, ECU

South: South Florida, UCF, Georgia State, UAB

West: Houston, Tulane, SMU, Tulsa

The American would have more of the Top DMA's then any other conference and they'd appear in all of them. These DMA's cover the B1G, ACC, SEC and Big 12.

Are these in and of themselves major gets? No. However, by combining them and their proximity to one another, they can become one of the larger conferences in terms of fan support. JMHO. Fans like to go to game even if it isn't all of them. Having a coast to coast conference prohibits this in a major way. Just something to think about. 04-cheers

gawd no.....SMH

2nd that...gawd no. No offense but not all big markets mean everything. GA State already shares Atlanta with GA Tech. NIU can't even average 20k in a bcs run. UAB recently shut down the program for lack of support. Umass could have future potential but that is a high risk addition.

ODU is one that has potential to me who can actually sell out a small stadium every game.
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(06-02-2015 07:50 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(06-02-2015 05:55 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-01-2015 06:30 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Lets just take the American as it is now:

School
Market

UConn
Hartford + New Haven, Connecticut #30
Temple
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania #4
Navy
Washington DC #8/ Baltimore, Maryland #26
Cincinnati
Cincinnati, Ohio #36
Memphis
Memphis, Tennessee #50
ECU
Greenville-Washington-New Bern, North Carolina #99
UCF
Orlando, Florida #18
South Florida
Tampa, Florida #13
Tulane
New Orleans, Louisiana #51
Houston
Houston, Texas #10
SMU
Dallas / Ft. Worth, Texas #5
Tulsa
Tulsa, Oklahoma #60

Now lets just go to 16 schools by adding 4 more.

NIU
Chicago, Illinois #3
Georgia State
Atlanta, Georgia #9
UAB
Birmingham, Alabama #43
UMass
Amherst, Massachusetts (Boston Access)*#7

UMass at Amherst would have to be declared UMass by the State Legislature and have the rest become satellite campuses of them and invest heavily in Amherst. There are 71K students in the UMass system. That's a lot of Alums to be brought under a single Flagship. This would also give the American the possibility of penetrating the Boston Market (#7), utilizing the new UMAss vs UConn rivalry. The combination of UConn, UMass, Temple and Navy in relative driving distance for New York City fans, would also give the American a chance at the NYC market as well.

Your Divisions would look like this:

East: UConn, UMass, Temple, Navy

North: UC, NIU, Memphis, ECU

South: South Florida, UCF, Georgia State, UAB

West: Houston, Tulane, SMU, Tulsa

The American would have more of the Top DMA's then any other conference and they'd appear in all of them. These DMA's cover the B1G, ACC, SEC and Big 12.

Are these in and of themselves major gets? No. However, by combining them and their proximity to one another, they can become one of the larger conferences in terms of fan support. JMHO. Fans like to go to game even if it isn't all of them. Having a coast to coast conference prohibits this in a major way. Just something to think about. 04-cheers

gawd no.....SMH

2nd that...gawd no. No offense but not all big markets mean everything. GA State already shares Atlanta with GA Tech. NIU can't even average 20k in a bcs run. UAB recently shut down the program for lack of support. Umass could have future potential but that is a high risk addition.

ODU is one that has potential to me who can actually sell out a small stadium every game.

NIU averaged 13k per game last season due to probably the worst home schedule in the country. The prior 4-5 years, they have averaged around 20k or more per game.

It looks to me that SMU, Temple, Tulane, and Tulsa ALL averaged around the same attendance as NIU so don't get too c*cky over there.
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(06-02-2015 07:50 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(06-02-2015 05:55 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-01-2015 06:30 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Lets just take the American as it is now:

School
Market

UConn
Hartford + New Haven, Connecticut #30
Temple
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania #4
Navy
Washington DC #8/ Baltimore, Maryland #26
Cincinnati
Cincinnati, Ohio #36
Memphis
Memphis, Tennessee #50
ECU
Greenville-Washington-New Bern, North Carolina #99
UCF
Orlando, Florida #18
South Florida
Tampa, Florida #13
Tulane
New Orleans, Louisiana #51
Houston
Houston, Texas #10
SMU
Dallas / Ft. Worth, Texas #5
Tulsa
Tulsa, Oklahoma #60

Now lets just go to 16 schools by adding 4 more.

NIU
Chicago, Illinois #3
Georgia State
Atlanta, Georgia #9
UAB
Birmingham, Alabama #43
UMass
Amherst, Massachusetts (Boston Access)*#7

UMass at Amherst would have to be declared UMass by the State Legislature and have the rest become satellite campuses of them and invest heavily in Amherst. There are 71K students in the UMass system. That's a lot of Alums to be brought under a single Flagship. This would also give the American the possibility of penetrating the Boston Market (#7), utilizing the new UMAss vs UConn rivalry. The combination of UConn, UMass, Temple and Navy in relative driving distance for New York City fans, would also give the American a chance at the NYC market as well.

Your Divisions would look like this:

East: UConn, UMass, Temple, Navy

North: UC, NIU, Memphis, ECU

South: South Florida, UCF, Georgia State, UAB

West: Houston, Tulane, SMU, Tulsa

The American would have more of the Top DMA's then any other conference and they'd appear in all of them. These DMA's cover the B1G, ACC, SEC and Big 12.

Are these in and of themselves major gets? No. However, by combining them and their proximity to one another, they can become one of the larger conferences in terms of fan support. JMHO. Fans like to go to game even if it isn't all of them. Having a coast to coast conference prohibits this in a major way. Just something to think about. 04-cheers

gawd no.....SMH

2nd that...gawd no. No offense but not all big markets mean everything. GA State already shares Atlanta with GA Tech. NIU can't even average 20k in a bcs run. UAB recently shut down the program for lack of support. Umass could have future potential but that is a high risk addition.

ODU is one that has potential to me who can actually sell out a small stadium every game.

Also, in regards to your BCS Bowl appearance, you do not have much room to talk regarding attendance...

"The announced attendance was 65,172, the smallest since the Fiesta Bowl moved to University of Phoenix Stadium in 2007. Despite 5,000 returned tickets by Baylor, green-and-gold fans were well represented. Still, the matchup failed to spark interest in the Valley of the Sun."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...a-bowl.ece

The 2012 Orange Bowl had an attendance over 72k including 15-20k NIU fans.
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Well this was an entertaining chuckle inducing lunchtime read. thanks
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USFRamenu -

That's forward thinking. Makes sense to this non-AAC fan. Certainly nurtures regionality and rivalries -- the key ingredients for long-term success.
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(06-02-2015 10:17 AM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(06-02-2015 07:50 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(06-02-2015 05:55 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-01-2015 06:30 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Lets just take the American as it is now:

School
Market

UConn
Hartford + New Haven, Connecticut #30
Temple
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania #4
Navy
Washington DC #8/ Baltimore, Maryland #26
Cincinnati
Cincinnati, Ohio #36
Memphis
Memphis, Tennessee #50
ECU
Greenville-Washington-New Bern, North Carolina #99
UCF
Orlando, Florida #18
South Florida
Tampa, Florida #13
Tulane
New Orleans, Louisiana #51
Houston
Houston, Texas #10
SMU
Dallas / Ft. Worth, Texas #5
Tulsa
Tulsa, Oklahoma #60

Now lets just go to 16 schools by adding 4 more.

NIU
Chicago, Illinois #3
Georgia State
Atlanta, Georgia #9
UAB
Birmingham, Alabama #43
UMass
Amherst, Massachusetts (Boston Access)*#7

UMass at Amherst would have to be declared UMass by the State Legislature and have the rest become satellite campuses of them and invest heavily in Amherst. There are 71K students in the UMass system. That's a lot of Alums to be brought under a single Flagship. This would also give the American the possibility of penetrating the Boston Market (#7), utilizing the new UMAss vs UConn rivalry. The combination of UConn, UMass, Temple and Navy in relative driving distance for New York City fans, would also give the American a chance at the NYC market as well.

Your Divisions would look like this:

East: UConn, UMass, Temple, Navy

North: UC, NIU, Memphis, ECU

South: South Florida, UCF, Georgia State, UAB

West: Houston, Tulane, SMU, Tulsa

The American would have more of the Top DMA's then any other conference and they'd appear in all of them. These DMA's cover the B1G, ACC, SEC and Big 12.

Are these in and of themselves major gets? No. However, by combining them and their proximity to one another, they can become one of the larger conferences in terms of fan support. JMHO. Fans like to go to game even if it isn't all of them. Having a coast to coast conference prohibits this in a major way. Just something to think about. 04-cheers

gawd no.....SMH

2nd that...gawd no. No offense but not all big markets mean everything. GA State already shares Atlanta with GA Tech. NIU can't even average 20k in a bcs run. UAB recently shut down the program for lack of support. Umass could have future potential but that is a high risk addition.

ODU is one that has potential to me who can actually sell out a small stadium every game.

NIU averaged 13k per game last season due to probably the worst home schedule in the country. The prior 4-5 years, they have averaged around 20k or more per game.

It looks to me that SMU, Temple, Tulane, and Tulsa ALL averaged around the same attendance as NIU so don't get too c*cky over there.

(06-02-2015 10:22 AM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(06-02-2015 07:50 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(06-02-2015 05:55 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-01-2015 06:30 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Lets just take the American as it is now:

School
Market

UConn
Hartford + New Haven, Connecticut #30
Temple
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania #4
Navy
Washington DC #8/ Baltimore, Maryland #26
Cincinnati
Cincinnati, Ohio #36
Memphis
Memphis, Tennessee #50
ECU
Greenville-Washington-New Bern, North Carolina #99
UCF
Orlando, Florida #18
South Florida
Tampa, Florida #13
Tulane
New Orleans, Louisiana #51
Houston
Houston, Texas #10
SMU
Dallas / Ft. Worth, Texas #5
Tulsa
Tulsa, Oklahoma #60

Now lets just go to 16 schools by adding 4 more.

NIU
Chicago, Illinois #3
Georgia State
Atlanta, Georgia #9
UAB
Birmingham, Alabama #43
UMass
Amherst, Massachusetts (Boston Access)*#7

UMass at Amherst would have to be declared UMass by the State Legislature and have the rest become satellite campuses of them and invest heavily in Amherst. There are 71K students in the UMass system. That's a lot of Alums to be brought under a single Flagship. This would also give the American the possibility of penetrating the Boston Market (#7), utilizing the new UMAss vs UConn rivalry. The combination of UConn, UMass, Temple and Navy in relative driving distance for New York City fans, would also give the American a chance at the NYC market as well.

Your Divisions would look like this:

East: UConn, UMass, Temple, Navy

North: UC, NIU, Memphis, ECU

South: South Florida, UCF, Georgia State, UAB

West: Houston, Tulane, SMU, Tulsa

The American would have more of the Top DMA's then any other conference and they'd appear in all of them. These DMA's cover the B1G, ACC, SEC and Big 12.

Are these in and of themselves major gets? No. However, by combining them and their proximity to one another, they can become one of the larger conferences in terms of fan support. JMHO. Fans like to go to game even if it isn't all of them. Having a coast to coast conference prohibits this in a major way. Just something to think about. 04-cheers

gawd no.....SMH

2nd that...gawd no. No offense but not all big markets mean everything. GA State already shares Atlanta with GA Tech. NIU can't even average 20k in a bcs run. UAB recently shut down the program for lack of support. Umass could have future potential but that is a high risk addition.

ODU is one that has potential to me who can actually sell out a small stadium every game.

Also, in regards to your BCS Bowl appearance, you do not have much room to talk regarding attendance...

"The announced attendance was 65,172, the smallest since the Fiesta Bowl moved to University of Phoenix Stadium in 2007. Despite 5,000 returned tickets by Baylor, green-and-gold fans were well represented. Still, the matchup failed to spark interest in the Valley of the Sun."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...a-bowl.ece

The 2012 Orange Bowl had an attendance over 72k including 15-20k NIU fans.
They dont wanna hear the truth and valid reasons as to why attendance was the way it was at that time, they wanna stick their heads in the sand and scream "lalalalalaNIUattendancewillalwaysbehorriblelalalalala"

*not all of you think that, but some of you despite being shown facts are stuck with your "narratives" like some uniformed sports fans*
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