(05-22-2015 07:11 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I will NEVER cheer for Alabama in anything ever again.

Everyone should make it a point to boycott all things UAT.

In years past the ONLY time i would cheer for Alabama-Tuscaloosa is when they played Ole Miss or Mississippi State. I will now cheer for Alabama Tuscaloosa to lose (still refuse to cheer for Ole Miss or Miss St but can't bring myself to say I will cheer for them)

(05-22-2015 08:46 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(05-21-2015 09:05 PM)Smaug Wrote:  There's a reason why, when someone says "Roll Tide" my ears hear "F*** you."

I live in Virginia, so it doesn't happen as often here, but whenever I see a bumper sticker, etc. with the "scarlet letter" emblazoned on it I can't help but utter the very same phrase.

I just treat those as a mentally handicapped warning sticker. That car is more likely to do something stupid, so I avoid being around that vehicle. (And I see this a LOT between Atlanta and Hattiesburg!)

If this report is factual it certainly explains a lot. Man, and I thought Louisiana was screwed up. Which it is, BTW.

We tried to tell you guys.......

Yet most USM fans believe this is 100% about UAB's lack of fans. Our fans claim to hate the SEC, then they parrot the party line at every opportunity. #FreeUAB

(05-21-2015 11:29 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  Killing football is one thing, but damn, Watts himself went to UAB as an undergrad. He owes the base of his higher education to this institution and now he wants to kill the undergrad portion of it? Someone needs to do something about this guy.

I didn't know Watts is a UAB alumni, It seems he understands his position is to do as he's told by the Board....if he wants a pay check

(05-21-2015 05:35 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015...n_hid.html

Excerpt:

At 10:20 am on Dec. 1, 2014, I received a message about what was really going on at UAB. It said, in part:"The hidden agenda is to focus UAB as medical school only, UAH as math and science only ... (board of trustees) presidents have pushed this agenda ... Deep pockets of trustees allow them to buy whatever they want."

You outta read the rest of it... I get it. The whole system is ******.

Quote:This is where the over 17,000 undergraduates at the Birmingham and Huntsville campuses likely come in. UA needs more in-state undergraduates to maintain the illusion of a commitment to the state of Alabama and keep the state's power-brokers happy. How many more in-staters are needed? A lot—because at the same time, UA is going to have to keep bringing in even more out-of-staters to try to grow its revenues faster than its spiraling debt. Where could UA magically find thousands upon thousands of in-state students to enroll? The perfect solution: Shut down UAB and UAH at the undergraduate level and herd those students to Tuscaloosa. Judging from the current mission statements of UAB and UAH that curiously omit the word "undergraduate," this plan has been in the works for a while. My trustee source confirms this.

WOW.

(05-22-2015 05:27 PM)GreenSteve Wrote:  

(05-21-2015 05:35 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015...n_hid.html

Excerpt:

At 10:20 am on Dec. 1, 2014, I received a message about what was really going on at UAB. It said, in part:"The hidden agenda is to focus UAB as medical school only, UAH as math and science only ... (board of trustees) presidents have pushed this agenda ... Deep pockets of trustees allow them to buy whatever they want."

You outta read the rest of it... I get it. The whole system is ******.

Quote:This is where the over 17,000 undergraduates at the Birmingham and Huntsville campuses likely come in. UA needs more in-state undergraduates to maintain the illusion of a commitment to the state of Alabama and keep the state's power-brokers happy. How many more in-staters are needed? A lot—because at the same time, UA is going to have to keep bringing in even more out-of-staters to try to grow its revenues faster than its spiraling debt. Where could UA magically find thousands upon thousands of in-state students to enroll? The perfect solution: Shut down UAB and UAH at the undergraduate level and herd those students to Tuscaloosa. Judging from the current mission statements of UAB and UAH that curiously omit the word "undergraduate," this plan has been in the works for a while. My trustee source confirms this.

WOW.

Assuming all this is true (and surely folks in potential landing pad sports conferences for UAB have more connections with in-touch people who are in-the-know with behind-the-scenes operators on this), why would ANY conference take UAB when they could disappear as a University at any moment?

What it would take to transfer UAB and UAH to the Auburn System? If Birmingham and Huntsville were faced with losing undergraduate programs, even a constitutional amendment might not be that tall of an order.

(05-22-2015 06:41 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  What it would take to transfer UAB and UAH to the Auburn System? If Birmingham and Huntsville were faced with losing undergraduate programs, even a constitutional amendment might not be that tall of an order.

I'm sure UAT would just love to transfer us over to their archenemy plus the state government is controlled by UAT grads & PACs so not much chance of any bill making out of committee for a legislature vote & even if one happened to make it all the way out for a vote by the state you still have a Crimson state much of which barely got out of high school to cheer for "The Precious" so would vote any way the retards that are truly the problem tell them to since they barely understand the true issues & economics. We're 50th among states in all things that truly matter for a reason & they like it that way. Generally speaking the less educated you are the more easily manipulated you are

South Alabama has its own BOT, so does Jacksonville St, North Alabama, Troy, Alabama St, Alabama A&M, West Alabama... do I need to go on?

From 1968 to today, UAB grew from an extension center into the 3rd largest university in AL, the biggest single employer in the state, and one of the top national research institutions in the country.

But somehow we are stuck with UA‘s trustees and they use our school's gross revenue (higher than Bama & Auburn's combined) to bolster the credit rating for the UA System and spend the Tuscaloosa campus into nearly $1 billion dollars of debt as of Feb 2015. If UAB were allowed to pull out of the UA System totally, it would bankrupt the Tuscaloosa campus. Anyone with an accounting degree and fingers to type in http://www.uasystem.UA.edu can look up the numbers for themself and see that.

(05-24-2015 12:20 AM)UABslant Wrote:  South Alabama has its own BOT, so does Jacksonville St, North Alabama, Troy, Alabama St, Alabama A&M, West Alabama... do I need to go on?

From 1968 to today, UAB grew from an extension center into the 3rd largest university in AL, the biggest single employer in the state, and one of the top national research institutions in the country.

But somehow we are stuck with UA‘s trustees and they use our school's gross revenue (higher than Bama & Auburn's combined) to bolster the credit rating for the UA System and spend the Tuscaloosa campus into nearly $1 billion dollars of debt as of Feb 2015. If UAB were allowed to pull out of the UA System totally, it would bankrupt the Tuscaloosa campus. Anyone with an accounting degree and fingers to type in http://www.uasystem.UA.edu can look up the numbers for themself and see that.

There is hope for UAB, if not now, down the road. While USA has and has had its own BOT, until fairly recently, we had mostly UAT boosters and fans on it with their athletic loyalty to UAT and their academic loyalty to USA. Eventually, the alumni were able to get a couple of former USA athletes on the board and we were able to finally start seeing the USA red, white and blue apparel on campus versus AU and UAT crap.

So, while both situations are unique, there are also some similarities. The only reason it took USA this long to get a football program in place was due to our own BOT being a bunch of Bammers.

Former USA President Fred Whiddon's rather messy exit also did not help matters. It was a challenge just to get the Mitchell Center built with him in charge. When my dad was in the administration, he referred to the earlier plans for an on campus arena as "the Lego arena" simply because the budget for it was unrealistically low.

Betcha the UA BOT will be glad to let The University of Birmingham stand alone just as soon as they gut UAB of its' most precious assets, the School of Medicine and all the related health Science graduate school programs, and the hospital affiliation. Greedy Bas!@#$%^&, kinda like the rest of the SEC. I'm beginning to think this has nothing to do with football and everything to do with Power, Money and the Prestige of the Crimson Tide.

(05-21-2015 06:48 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  

(05-21-2015 05:35 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015...n_hid.html

Excerpt:

At 10:20 am on Dec. 1, 2014, I received a message about what was really going on at UAB. It said, in part:"The hidden agenda is to focus UAB as medical school only, UAH as math and science only ... (board of trustees) presidents have pushed this agenda ... Deep pockets of trustees allow them to buy whatever they want."

How does this even happen un-reported for so long. I'd feel pretty sure some fiscal responsibility would come up somewhere down the line in regards to what is going on...

I don't know how this is news to anyone. When the story first broke I posted that one option on the table for these guys was to do away with all undergraduate studies (and consequently all athletics) at UAB. Undergrads, at least the majority, would likely then enroll at the Tuscaloosa campus which has plans to dramatically increase its enrollment.

I believe I was called nuts for even suggesting such a thing.

(05-22-2015 04:03 PM)BkGold Wrote:  

(05-21-2015 11:29 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  Killing football is one thing, but damn, Watts himself went to UAB as an undergrad. He owes the base of his higher education to this institution and now he wants to kill the undergrad portion of it? Someone needs to do something about this guy.

I didn't know Watts is a UAB alumni, It seems he understands his position is to do as he's told by the Board....if he wants a pay check

Watts is a 1976 grad of UAB, before UAB had NCAA athletics, before Gene Bartow. Though he frequently lies about his time spent at UAB.

He is paid $853K/year, considerably more than any other CUSA public university president.

Wasn't the cost of the bowling team not even $500K/year? He could personally fund a team if he wanted to.

SEVEN DAYS.


This decision will have ramifications across many levels and individuals.
Could even influence decisions in other places years from now.


signed,Captain Obvious



GO BLAZERS-keep fighting!!!

as much as i detest the university of kentucky and rightfully so with what they've done to western in the past i thank god we aren't the university of kentucky at bowling green.

uk has stopped western any time we've tried to get too big for our britches. academically.

we have a ton of bammer folks in bowling green now. i see their script A's on the bumpers all the time. i'll say a little cuss word for every one i see from now on.

(05-25-2015 04:52 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Wasn't the cost of the bowling team not even $500K/year? He could personally fund a team if he wanted to.

Bowling actually made money for the university (since the scholarships were partial, which meant it brought in tuition money Andy Schwarz did an analysis piece on it).

Ray Watts has supposedly donated $15,000 to plant a grove of Yoshino Cherry trees on the campus green (not sure this is true, since it would be monumentally stupid even by his standards). I am feeling much like George Washington.