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oleary at 4?

taggart better than 3 aac coaches?

Diaco and Johnson both squandered resources last year. Taggart makes sense at 9 or 10.

With that said, if UConn and Tulane uptick like they should... ...then Taggart is probably finishing dead last (and getting fired).

(05-20-2015 02:43 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Diaco and Johnson both squandered resources last year. Taggart makes sense at 9 or 10.

With that said, if UConn and Tulane uptick like they should... ...then Taggart is probably finishing dead last (and getting fired).

That's assuming Taggart doesn't win this year. If he goes 6-6 or better and goes to a bowl many will be thinking differently
He is going to have a very good defense and IF Flowers turns out to be half decent as a QB, USF will surprise many on this board

(05-20-2015 02:50 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(05-20-2015 02:43 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Diaco and Johnson both squandered resources last year. Taggart makes sense at 9 or 10.

With that said, if UConn and Tulane uptick like they should... ...then Taggart is probably finishing dead last (and getting fired).

That's assuming Taggart doesn't win this year. If he goes 6-6 or better and goes to a bowl many will be thinking differently
He is going to have a very good defense and IF Flowers turns out to be half decent as a QB, USF will surprise many on this board

I'm doubting Taggart as a coach more than USF as a team. USF has the talent to win 8-9 games THIS coming season - but I don't trust Taggart.

Color me shocked if USF goes bowling.

The entire post was subjective, like everything in life. We all have backsides, some just look sexier then others.

i honestly can see any legit argument to have taggart over rhule...

rhule took a less talented team to being bowl eligible in year 2 and are a projected 8-10 win team year 3....taggart with the best recruiting team in the league is projected 5 wins and those are the nicer projections

Remember when every Cincinnati fan was telling the UConn fans to temper their excitement/expectations...

Anyway you slice it, the AAC boasts a pretty impressive roster of upwardly mobile coaching talent. This is just one of many reasons I believe the AAC is primed to pull away from the other G5 conferences.

I don't think O'Leary should be any lower than 2 at worst. Obviously my opinion is bias, but I think he is the best and most experienced coach in the conference. He has built UCF from the ground up into a perennial conference championship contender.

(05-20-2015 02:40 PM)pesik Wrote:  http://www.sportingnews.com/list/4644763...in-mcneill

oleary at 4?

taggart better than 3 aac coaches?

If they would have taken the same poll during O'Leary's first couple years then he would have been at the bottom as well being that his first team went winless. Heck...just three years ago, O'Leary entered the season firmly on everyone's "hotseat".

The reality is that GOL didn't suddenly become a bad coach, he just inherited a complete reclamation job from the previous coach much like Taggart inherited a hot mess from Lou Holtz's son.

With that said, GOL proved his worth by year three and the onus is on Taggart to do the same. Just three years ago, Taggart was considered a rising young coach and had turned around a moribund WKU program into a dangerous program despite having to recruit under the SunBelt banner. If Taggart can survive this year....needs at least 6 wins...and can find some stability at the QB position he has a chance to be good in this league. The guy can recruit, players love to play for him and he was a good X's & O's guy at WVU due to the people he learned under.

BTW...for the record and it pains me to say this: GOL should be first based on results on the field and and consistency the last three years. I still dislike the guy ....as do many UCF fans...but you can't argue with his success on the field.

IMO....Fuentes has to prove that last year wasn't a fluke...but he has a chance to be he next hotshot "mid-major" type that gets a P5 call up...so it's kind of a mixed bag for long suffering Memphis fans.

(05-20-2015 03:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  i honestly can see any legit argument to have taggart over rhule...

rhule took a less talented team to being bowl eligible in year 2 and are a projected 8-10 win team year 3....taggart with the best recruiting team in the league is projected 5 wins and those are the nicer projections

It's all about what talent you inherit from the previous coach and stability at the QB position. Taggart didn't inherit much on either front, while Rhule inherited a nice stockpile of talent.

Realize that if a coach has to rely on freshman and sophomores to win games...as Taggart has had to do during his first two years....you are not likely going to have good season or sleep very well.

This is a big year for Taggart....no doubt. IMO, I think he has enough talent to win on both sides of the ball....but the big gaping hole at QB could ultimately get him fired. Holtz didn't recruit a Qb during his three years at USF...and that has been a real tough hurdle for the current staff to jump over.

(05-20-2015 03:22 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  I don't think O'Leary should be any lower than 2 at worst. Obviously my opinion is bias, but I think he is the best and most experienced coach in the conference. He has built UCF from the ground up into a perennial conference championship contender.

I'd put O'Leary ahead of Tuberville at the very least.

Its sad to see Tulsa ranked so low but, TU has yet to make any kind of waves in this conference in football so its understandable.

(05-20-2015 03:14 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Remember when every Cincinnati fan was telling the UConn fans to temper their excitement/expectations...

The raised expectations were a matter of a new coach and competent QB play from Cochran to finish out the 2013 season. Diaco didn't live up to the hype and we were back to square one at QB once Cochran was sidelined. Until we get halfway decent production from QB, we're going to stuggle.

(05-20-2015 02:50 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(05-20-2015 02:43 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Diaco and Johnson both squandered resources last year. Taggart makes sense at 9 or 10.

With that said, if UConn and Tulane uptick like they should... ...then Taggart is probably finishing dead last (and getting fired).

That's assuming Taggart doesn't win this year. If he goes 6-6 or better and goes to a bowl many will be thinking differently
He is going to have a very good defense and IF Flowers turns out to be half decent as a QB, USF will surprise many on this board

84 teams will go to a bowl game this year. It ain't a big deal!

(05-20-2015 03:56 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(05-20-2015 03:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  i honestly can see any legit argument to have taggart over rhule...

rhule took a less talented team to being bowl eligible in year 2 and are a projected 8-10 win team year 3....taggart with the best recruiting team in the league is projected 5 wins and those are the nicer projections

It's all about what talent you inherit from the previous coach and stability at the QB position. Taggart didn't inherit much on either front, while Rhule inherited a nice stockpile of talent.

Realize that if a coach has to rely on freshman and sophomores to win games...as Taggart has had to do during his first two years....you are not likely going to have good season or sleep very well.

This is a big year for Taggart....no doubt. IMO, I think he has enough talent to win on both sides of the ball....but the big gaping hole at QB could ultimately get him fired. Holtz didn't recruit a Qb during his three years at USF...and that has been a real tough hurdle for the current staff to jump over.

usf was ranked almost 50 spots higher is average 4 year rank than temple...temple was mostly mac recruited players, and literally their star LB Matakevich is the only "star player' on there roster who was a significant player for rhule. pj was a true sophmore, leading rusher was a true sophmore..the reason everyone thinks usf will be so good next year is because they literally lost no starters, if you are losing no starters your third year in, likely means the players you inherited probably werent that great and had to play younger guys

i really dont get how you guys are still making this usf has no talent excuse when you pre taggart and during taggart have dominated the league in recruiting

and didn't youre WR carry you last year? a holtz player, wasnt dede and the defense that carried you the year before holtz players , at the 2 4star TE's you were using that have been significant, holtz players? your qb as only a sophmore and a taggart player but thats a weak excuse as everyone but ecu played sophomore qbs or younger last year..

your basketball team your coach inherited almost no talent i don't by that for football one bit, especially when you're getting blown out by fcs or struggling to beat them...who have no where close to the talent level

It takes more than one player.
Yes Andre Davis was recruited by Holtz but other than him we had zero.
Running backs we had zero
QBs we had zero

The reality was that Holtz started recruiting more size rather than speed and that showed more than one coach remarked how surprised they were that for a team from the state of Florida we lacked speed and playmakers

Taggart has brought talent to team and I think you will see that on the field this year with more speed and talent in WRs and RBs, as cyber said the biggest issue will be QB and that could end up bring the spot that gets him fired
We shall see what happens this year will be a defining one for Taggart at USF

(05-20-2015 02:40 PM)pesik Wrote:  http://www.sportingnews.com/list/4644763...in-mcneill

oleary at 4?

taggart better than 3 aac coaches?

I can understand that. At some point his age starts working against him.

(05-20-2015 03:14 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Remember when every Cincinnati fan was telling the UConn fans to temper their excitement/expectations...

The guy has been here one year. Bear Bryant couldn't have fixed the mess PPGDL created in one year.