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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
Charlotte: @Georgia State; Temple - 0-2
FAU: @Tulsa; Buffalo - 1-1
FIU: @ UCF; @UMass - 1-1
LaTech: ULL - 1-0
Marshall: @Ohio; @Kent State 2-0
Middle Tenn: None
North Texas: @SMU 1-0
ODU: @Eastern Michigan; Appalachian State - 0-2
Rice: Army 1-0
Southern Miss: @Texas State 1-0
UTEP: @New Mexico State; 1-0
UTSA: Colorado State 0-1
WKU: @Miami (O) 1-0
10 wins is possible but I'm predicting 9 with so many new faces at QB throughout the conference this year. So just above 500 is my prediction. Sorry but we will drop to third best G5 conference this year most likely. But maybe I will be wrong and we go undefeated! This is one of those years where the top half is really going to have to carry the bottom half.
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-20-2015 10:58 AM)Dawg87 Wrote: Charlotte: @Georgia State; Temple - 0-2
FAU: @Tulsa; Buffalo - 1-1
FIU: @ UCF; @UMass - 1-1
LaTech: ULL - 1-0
Marshall: @Ohio; @Kent State 2-0
Middle Tenn: None
North Texas: @SMU 1-0
ODU: @Eastern Michigan; Appalachian State - 0-2
Rice: Army 1-0
Southern Miss: @Texas State 1-0
UTEP: @New Mexico State; 1-0
UTSA: Colorado State 0-1
WKU: @Miami (O) 1-0
10 wins is possible but I'm predicting 9 with so many new faces at QB throughout the conference this year. So just above 500 is my prediction. Sorry but we will drop to third best G5 conference this year most likely. But maybe I will be wrong and we go undefeated! This is one of those years where the top half is really going to have to carry the bottom half.
Good assessment
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
SOME of the La Tech fans already hate us for whipping them in football and basketball last year. To suggest we'll lose to Eastern Michigan is laughable. APP State is a pick'em. Best case 2-0, worst case 1-1
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-20-2015 05:06 PM)Old Dominion Wrote: SOME of the La Tech fans already hate us for whipping them in football and basketball last year. To suggest we'll lose to Eastern Michigan is laughable. APP State is a pick'em. Best case 2-0, worst case 1-1
Eastern is pick'em game for me because it is a road game, we all know how ODU (basketball & football) performs on the road
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
Man, aren't we all just starving for football? lol
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-20-2015 05:12 PM)Dawgxas Wrote: (05-20-2015 05:06 PM)Old Dominion Wrote: SOME of the La Tech fans already hate us for whipping them in football and basketball last year. To suggest we'll lose to Eastern Michigan is laughable. APP State is a pick'em. Best case 2-0, worst case 1-1
Eastern is pick'em game for me because it is a road game, we all know how ODU (basketball & football) performs on the road
We beat Rice and FAU on the road last year and were in close games with UTEP and WKU. ODU football does not have the same road woes as our roundball team.
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-20-2015 05:06 PM)Old Dominion Wrote: SOME of the La Tech fans already hate us for whipping them in football and basketball last year. To suggest we'll lose to Eastern Michigan is laughable. APP State is a pick'em. Best case 2-0, worst case 1-1
Just a prediction and I tend to doubt it represents the most of Tech's fan base opinion on ODU's upcoming season. Personally I hope that y'all win both games. The game last year is over. We had a shot at the championship and lost but won the bowl so it was good season for me.
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Dawg87
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-20-2015 05:06 PM)Old Dominion Wrote: SOME of the La Tech fans already hate us for whipping them in football and basketball last year. To suggest we'll lose to Eastern Michigan is laughable. APP State is a pick'em. Best case 2-0, worst case 1-1
Me saying there is a good chance you lose both games has nothing to do with bitterness. It is a quick analysis of a teams chances to beat teams on the road out of conference with a new quarterback on a transitional team. I hope you win both but it is very hard to predict you will beat anyone until you know how well your quarterback play will be.
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-20-2015 07:42 AM)12thmonarch Wrote: (05-19-2015 10:54 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (05-19-2015 12:14 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote: I get 11-6, and the toughtest call was crediting FIU with a win at UMass.
If UMass has any WRs at all Blake Frohnapfel will carve FIU up. If Marshall wouldn't have had Coto the last 4 years, Im pretty confident that Froh would have been the man behind center in Huntington.
Not saying there's no way what you said is going to happen. But consider this UMASS was never as good as ODU was in our short FB history and even if Frohnopel was as good as Heinicke their defense is not something to chest thump either. FIU Came to ODU while TH was a QB and it took a tipped interception and last second Field Goal to grab the win from FIU. They aren't as weak as everyone think they are. Most of us in the conference give the FIU and FAU very little to no credit mostly because of not knowing what they actually are. After seeing them in person i changed my mind, they are no push over's.
Thanks for the level-headed post. I do not understand all the hate for the FIU defense. FIU was ranked 40th in scoring defense and 35th in total defense last year, which was 3rd in C-USA, behind Marshall and La Tech. FIU forced the 5th most turnovers in the nation last year. The best part is virtually the entire 1st team defense returns with the exception of safety Demarkus Perkins. The favorite to win Conference USA DPOY has to be CB Richard Leonard who returned for his senior season.
If you think FIU would lose to UMASS because our offense blows, I wouldn't blame you. But to say FIU's defense will get picked apart seems mighty silly at this time. I wonder if some of you are confusing FIU with FAU who had the 110th ranked total defense last year.
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-21-2015 07:56 AM)Fish Wrote: (05-20-2015 07:42 AM)12thmonarch Wrote: (05-19-2015 10:54 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (05-19-2015 12:14 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote: I get 11-6, and the toughtest call was crediting FIU with a win at UMass.
If UMass has any WRs at all Blake Frohnapfel will carve FIU up. If Marshall wouldn't have had Coto the last 4 years, Im pretty confident that Froh would have been the man behind center in Huntington.
Not saying there's no way what you said is going to happen. But consider this UMASS was never as good as ODU was in our short FB history and even if Frohnopel was as good as Heinicke their defense is not something to chest thump either. FIU Came to ODU while TH was a QB and it took a tipped interception and last second Field Goal to grab the win from FIU. They aren't as weak as everyone think they are. Most of us in the conference give the FIU and FAU very little to no credit mostly because of not knowing what they actually are. After seeing them in person i changed my mind, they are no push over's.
Thanks for the level-headed post. I do not understand all the hate for the FIU defense. FIU was ranked 40th in scoring defense and 35th in total defense last year, which was 3rd in C-USA, behind Marshall and La Tech. FIU forced the 5th most turnovers in the nation last year. The best part is virtually the entire 1st team defense returns with the exception of safety Demarkus Perkins. The favorite to win Conference USA DPOY has to be CB Richard Leonard who returned for his senior season.
If you think FIU would lose to UMASS because our offense blows, I wouldn't blame you. But to say FIU's defense will get picked apart seems mighty silly at this time. I wonder if some of you are confusing FIU with FAU who had the 110th ranked total defense last year.
Fish, there is nothing we can do about the hate, unfortunately. It tends to be the Marshall folks that despise us more than even even our FAU rivals. Don't know why as we tend to mind our own business around here. But in this case, the comment was not about belittling the FIU D as much as it was about the belief that anything Marshall football is automatically better than anything else CUSA. Example: if this QB at UMass was a back-up at Marshall then he is automatically going to destroy FIU b/c Marshall is awesome and even our 11th string QB backup is better than anything at FIU ever. Get it? This comment was not an FIU dig from my perspective, but a we are Marshall awesomeness comment. By
By the way, I am not predicting FIU will beat UMass at all. I agree with Fish in that our D was our strength last year and we lost a lot of close games. Not to mention we beat FAU and Middle. Teams that are pretty decent in CUSA in my opinion (even though the record didn't show it for FAU). If our offense can wake up and our defense remains close to last year, we will surprise many of you.
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-20-2015 05:06 PM)Old Dominion Wrote: SOME of the La Tech fans already hate us for whipping them in football and basketball last year. To suggest we'll lose to Eastern Michigan is laughable. APP State is a pick'em. Best case 2-0, worst case 1-1
Welcome to the world of FBS football. ODU fans are about to learn that all sports --including football-- are MORE than a 1-season venture. Especially when discussing conference play. Today's hero can quickly become tomorrow's goat. And vice versa.
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-21-2015 10:19 AM)HogDawg Wrote: (05-20-2015 05:06 PM)Old Dominion Wrote: SOME of the La Tech fans already hate us for whipping them in football and basketball last year. To suggest we'll lose to Eastern Michigan is laughable. APP State is a pick'em. Best case 2-0, worst case 1-1
Welcome to the world of FBS football. ODU fans are about to learn that all sports --including football-- are MORE than a 1-season venture. Especially when discussing conference play. Today's hero can quickly become tomorrow's goat. And vice versa.
The same could be said for any level of competition.
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-19-2015 11:51 AM)Cnelson203 Wrote: While we're waiting for the UAB news, let's engage in a little pre-season prognostication in terms of OOC games. Last year, C-USA did well in its performance against other G5 schools, and it will be difficult to repeat that feat this year. There are some tough match-ups and the rest of the G5 is going to be gunning for us, since we did well last year.
This year, C-USA teams play 17 other G5 teams. So what is your overall prediction as it relates to C-USA wins and losses vs. this group of teams.
My prediction? 11-6
What's your prediction?
For reference, here is who we play from other G5 conferences:
Charlotte: @Georgia State; Temple
FAU: @Tulsa; Buffalo
FIU: @ UCF; @UMass
LaTech: ULL
Marshall: @Ohio; @Kent State
Middle Tenn: None
North Texas: @SMU
ODU: @Eastern Michigan; Appalachian State
Rice: Army
Southern Miss: @Texas State
UTEP: @New Mexico State;
UTSA: Colorado State
WKU: @Miami (O)
9-8
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-20-2015 10:58 AM)Dawg87 Wrote: Charlotte: @Georgia State; Temple - 0-2
FAU: @Tulsa; Buffalo - 1-1
FIU: @ UCF; @UMass - 1-1
LaTech: ULL - 1-0
Marshall: @Ohio; @Kent State 2-0
Middle Tenn: None
North Texas: @SMU 1-0
ODU: @Eastern Michigan; Appalachian State - 0-2
Rice: Army 1-0
Southern Miss: @Texas State 1-0
UTEP: @New Mexico State; 1-0
UTSA: Colorado State 0-1
WKU: @Miami (O) 1-0
10 wins is possible but I'm predicting 9 with so many new faces at QB throughout the conference this year. So just above 500 is my prediction. Sorry but we will drop to third best G5 conference this year most likely. But maybe I will be wrong and we go undefeated! This is one of those years where the top half is really going to have to carry the bottom half.
I agree with all of these except I think Texas St takes USM at home and ODU beats EMU.
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
I'll take a shot at this...
Charlotte: @Georgia State (L); Temple (L)
FAU: @Tulsa (L); Buffalo (W)
FIU: @ UCF (L); @UMass (W)
LaTech: ULL (W)
Marshall: @Ohio (W); @Kent State (W)
Middle Tenn: None
North Texas: @SMU (L)
ODU: @Eastern Michigan (W); Appalachian State (L)
Rice: Army (W)
Southern Miss: @Texas State (L)
UTEP: @New Mexico State; (W)
UTSA: Colorado State (L)
WKU: @Miami (O) (W)
9-8 overall. Lot of toss up games in there that could go either way.
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-21-2015 08:13 AM)TheFIUtheproud Wrote: (05-21-2015 07:56 AM)Fish Wrote: (05-20-2015 07:42 AM)12thmonarch Wrote: (05-19-2015 10:54 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: (05-19-2015 12:14 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote: I get 11-6, and the toughtest call was crediting FIU with a win at UMass.
If UMass has any WRs at all Blake Frohnapfel will carve FIU up. If Marshall wouldn't have had Coto the last 4 years, Im pretty confident that Froh would have been the man behind center in Huntington.
Not saying there's no way what you said is going to happen. But consider this UMASS was never as good as ODU was in our short FB history and even if Frohnopel was as good as Heinicke their defense is not something to chest thump either. FIU Came to ODU while TH was a QB and it took a tipped interception and last second Field Goal to grab the win from FIU. They aren't as weak as everyone think they are. Most of us in the conference give the FIU and FAU very little to no credit mostly because of not knowing what they actually are. After seeing them in person i changed my mind, they are no push over's.
I do not understand all the hate for the FIU defense. FIU was ranked 40th in scoring defense and 35th in total defense last year, which was 3rd in C-USA
If you think FIU would lose to UMASS because our offense blows, I wouldn't blame you. But to say FIU's defense will get picked apart seems mighty silly at this time. I wonder if some of you are confusing FIU with FAU who had the 110th ranked total defense last year.
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that despite how wonderful you say that your defense is, we blasted you two straight years at your place. And it wasn't because of your offense. That, and it was FAU that has really played us tough over the past two years. The fact that you were 3rd in CUSA, well that either says that CUSA sucks (you didn't even get to a bowl), or Marshall was THAT good last year. Which is it?
Fish, there is nothing we can do about the hate, unfortunately. It tends to be the Marshall folks that despise us more than even even our FAU rivals. Don't know why as we tend to mind our own business around here.
Nobody hates FIU (at least not me). But I think a lot of us remember the Beef O'Brady's skirmish during the pre-bowl party and all of the bantering that T.Y. Helton did. He kinda shut up after getting torpedoed by Alex Bazzie and then fumbling the game away in the 4th quarter.
THAT was a talented team and the worst mistake FIU did was to fire Mario. He had you guys going places. I do hope you have a good season this year as we need the east to step up!!!
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
I'm sorry FIU fans, I'm not even going to lie..... I have almost zero respect for your program.
Nothing personal towards you guys as individuals, but I think that Marshall, Rice, UTEP, and So Miss are above FIU when it comes to collegiate sports.
I hope you guys actually start to grow your athletics programs, but I just do not see it happening any time soon (I truly hope I am wrong.)
Respect is earned and so far you guys have not earned any respect from this Marshall fan.
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-22-2015 09:29 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote: (05-21-2015 08:13 AM)TheFIUtheproud Wrote: (05-21-2015 07:56 AM)Fish Wrote: (05-20-2015 07:42 AM)12thmonarch Wrote: (05-19-2015 10:54 PM)HerdZoned Wrote: If UMass has any WRs at all Blake Frohnapfel will carve FIU up. If Marshall wouldn't have had Coto the last 4 years, Im pretty confident that Froh would have been the man behind center in Huntington.
Not saying there's no way what you said is going to happen. But consider this UMASS was never as good as ODU was in our short FB history and even if Frohnopel was as good as Heinicke their defense is not something to chest thump either. FIU Came to ODU while TH was a QB and it took a tipped interception and last second Field Goal to grab the win from FIU. They aren't as weak as everyone think they are. Most of us in the conference give the FIU and FAU very little to no credit mostly because of not knowing what they actually are. After seeing them in person i changed my mind, they are no push over's.
I do not understand all the hate for the FIU defense. FIU was ranked 40th in scoring defense and 35th in total defense last year, which was 3rd in C-USA
If you think FIU would lose to UMASS because our offense blows, I wouldn't blame you. But to say FIU's defense will get picked apart seems mighty silly at this time. I wonder if some of you are confusing FIU with FAU who had the 110th ranked total defense last year.
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that despite how wonderful you say that your defense is, we blasted you two straight years at your place. And it wasn't because of your offense. That, and it was FAU that has really played us tough over the past two years. The fact that you were 3rd in CUSA, well that either says that CUSA sucks (you didn't even get to a bowl), or Marshall was THAT good last year. Which is it?
Fish, there is nothing we can do about the hate, unfortunately. It tends to be the Marshall folks that despise us more than even even our FAU rivals. Don't know why as we tend to mind our own business around here.
Nobody hates FIU (at least not me). But I think a lot of us remember the Beef O'Brady's skirmish during the pre-bowl party and all of the bantering that T.Y. Helton did. He kinda shut up after getting torpedoed by Alex Bazzie and then fumbling the game away in the 4th quarter.
THAT was a talented team and the worst mistake FIU did was to fire Mario. He had you guys going places. I do hope you have a good season this year as we need the east to step up!!!
Well, I don't recall the skirmish. I was there and met some great Marshall fans overall. TY Hilton had a bad game and Marshall deserves kudos for the game planning and for stopping TY. Many of us were upset with Cristobal's firing (I was one). The year after his firing was the disaster we all remember. Lost 30 or more seniors. Had significant transfers. Our top RB was kicked off the team.
And I do not think that every Marshall fan hates/detests/dislikes FIU. I would think that most don't care about FIU at all. But you gotta admit that on this site there is a lot of anti-FIU sentiment and it tends to come from the Marshall peeps. I understand the FAU rivalry hatred for us, but some of the crap posted about us is down-right unnecessary. I will leave it at this: Most of us FIU guys are pleasantly surprised with Coach Turner. He has turned this thing around and our future looks bright. Let me put it to you this way - if we beat Marshall this year I would not be surprised (not predicting it though). Our team has come a long way.
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
(05-22-2015 10:17 AM)TheFIUtheproud Wrote: (05-22-2015 09:29 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote: (05-21-2015 08:13 AM)TheFIUtheproud Wrote: (05-21-2015 07:56 AM)Fish Wrote: (05-20-2015 07:42 AM)12thmonarch Wrote: Not saying there's no way what you said is going to happen. But consider this UMASS was never as good as ODU was in our short FB history and even if Frohnopel was as good as Heinicke their defense is not something to chest thump either. FIU Came to ODU while TH was a QB and it took a tipped interception and last second Field Goal to grab the win from FIU. They aren't as weak as everyone think they are. Most of us in the conference give the FIU and FAU very little to no credit mostly because of not knowing what they actually are. After seeing them in person i changed my mind, they are no push over's.
I do not understand all the hate for the FIU defense. FIU was ranked 40th in scoring defense and 35th in total defense last year, which was 3rd in C-USA
If you think FIU would lose to UMASS because our offense blows, I wouldn't blame you. But to say FIU's defense will get picked apart seems mighty silly at this time. I wonder if some of you are confusing FIU with FAU who had the 110th ranked total defense last year.
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that despite how wonderful you say that your defense is, we blasted you two straight years at your place. And it wasn't because of your offense. That, and it was FAU that has really played us tough over the past two years. The fact that you were 3rd in CUSA, well that either says that CUSA sucks (you didn't even get to a bowl), or Marshall was THAT good last year. Which is it?
Fish, there is nothing we can do about the hate, unfortunately. It tends to be the Marshall folks that despise us more than even even our FAU rivals. Don't know why as we tend to mind our own business around here.
Nobody hates FIU (at least not me). But I think a lot of us remember the Beef O'Brady's skirmish during the pre-bowl party and all of the bantering that T.Y. Helton did. He kinda shut up after getting torpedoed by Alex Bazzie and then fumbling the game away in the 4th quarter.
THAT was a talented team and the worst mistake FIU did was to fire Mario. He had you guys going places. I do hope you have a good season this year as we need the east to step up!!!
Well, I don't recall the skirmish. I was there and met some great Marshall fans overall. TY Hilton had a bad game and Marshall deserves kudos for the game planning and for stopping TY. Many of us were upset with Cristobal's firing (I was one). The year after his firing was the disaster we all remember. Lost 30 or more seniors. Had significant transfers. Our top RB was kicked off the team.
And I do not think that every Marshall fan hates/detests/dislikes FIU. I would think that most don't care about FIU at all. But you gotta admit that on this site there is a lot of anti-FIU sentiment and it tends to come from the Marshall peeps. I understand the FAU rivalry hatred for us, but some of the crap posted about us is down-right unnecessary. I will leave it at this: Most of us FIU guys are pleasantly surprised with Coach Turner. He has turned this thing around and our future looks bright. Let me put it to you this way - if we beat Marshall this year I would not be surprised (not predicting it though). Our team has come a long way.
I agree that you guys have been the so-called whipping boy of the league....and you have been piled on. I hope you turn it around.
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Cnelson203
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RE: Early 2015 C-USA vs G5 Predictions
As a Florida guy, I enjoy having BOTH FAU and FIU in the conference, and have been to every Florida based game involving both schools, including the BoB game.
The only reason i think there is a bit of rivalry with FIU, in particular, is that Miami is smack dab in the middle of prime Herd recruiting territory for us. That's going to stoke the rivalry flames a bit. I've been to Miami and FIU's campus twice for games and was well pleased with how we were received both years. Last year's game was fairly well attend, and a good game in the first half. The Panther's came out ready to play and took us by surprise.
I do think that FIU's defense is excellent and is going to beat some people, particuarly if their offense begins to catch up. FAU has played us strong both years and we had a last second field goal two years ago to win in Boca. Plus they had an outstanding recruiting year last year.
I see good things ahead for both squads.
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