http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2...nomically/

Interesting article.

"Blacks’ real median household income ticked up to $34,598 in 2013, roughly 59% that of whites’, a ratio that has also not varied much since the Census Bureau began tracking this data in 1967."

But muh Great Society!!!!

Good read. Thanks for posting.

Big cities where they make up a large portion of local government?

This isn't a surprise. The south is where most black people originate and it's where most black people remain. In my grandma's and older aunt's eras it was common for the educated to leave the south and go up to Detroit, DC, Chicago, LA, New York, Philadelphia, Boston, etc. They got jobs, bought houses, sold those houses for a whole lot more and moved back.

Atlanta doesn't surprise me at all. Miami does.

(05-14-2015 08:40 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Big cities where they make up a large portion of local government?

Is that true of Raleigh, Charlotte, San Antonio, Miami, or Orlando?

wait.... so black people are typically doing better in Southern, republican led states?


Interesting.

(05-14-2015 09:01 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  wait.... so black people are typically doing better in Southern, republican led states?


Interesting.

Who leads the cities?

(05-14-2015 09:11 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 09:01 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  wait.... so black people are typically doing better in Southern, republican led states?


Interesting.

Who leads the cities?

well I know for Charlotte it was a Democrat. But he is now in jail for corruption. lol

and for Atlanta, it mentions "metro Atlanta" so you will have a pretty diverse mix of city officials.

(05-14-2015 09:14 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and for Atlanta, it mentions "metro Atlanta" so you will have a pretty diverse mix of city officials.

If it's a diverse mix, it ain't Republicans.

(05-14-2015 09:16 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 09:14 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and for Atlanta, it mentions "metro Atlanta" so you will have a pretty diverse mix of city officials.

If it's a diverse mix, it ain't Republicans.

you do realize that "metro atlanta" is way larger than the actual city limits of Atlanta, right?

Ha!! "Metro Atlanta"..... is comprised of 29 counties! Nice try on claiming how Kasim Reed is leading the charge!

(05-14-2015 09:22 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 09:16 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 09:14 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and for Atlanta, it mentions "metro Atlanta" so you will have a pretty diverse mix of city officials.

If it's a diverse mix, it ain't Republicans.

you do realize that "metro atlanta" is way larger than the actual city limits of Atlanta, right?

That is usually what a metro area is.

(05-14-2015 09:16 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 09:14 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and for Atlanta, it mentions "metro Atlanta" so you will have a pretty diverse mix of city officials.

If it's a diverse mix, it ain't Republicans.

And if it's diverse, it 'ain't' racist.

Texas' largest cities come in 8th, 11th 12th and 13th... While California's liberal hotspots of San-Fran and LA come in near the bottom. Seattle is also quite low, with NY and Chicago 'near' the middle. Mid-Central and Northeast in general don't fare very well, despite being essentially locks for Democrats.

'Pro-Business' leadership seems to be working best for African-Americans, regardless of party (while generally associated with the right, many Texas democrats are QUITE pro-business/entrepreneurship)... as some would say, encouraging opportunities as opposed to guaranteeing mediocre stability.

(05-14-2015 09:35 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 09:16 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 09:14 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  and for Atlanta, it mentions "metro Atlanta" so you will have a pretty diverse mix of city officials.

If it's a diverse mix, it ain't Republicans.

And if it's diverse, it 'ain't' racist.

Texas' largest cities come in 8th, 11th 12th and 13th... While California's liberal hotspots of San-Fran and LA come in near the bottom. Seattle is also quite low, with NY and Chicago 'near' the middle. Mid-Central and Northeast in general don't fare very well, despite being essentially locks for Democrats.

'Pro-Business' leadership seems to be working best for African-Americans, regardless of party (while generally associated with the right, many Texas democrats are QUITE pro-business/entrepreneurship)... as some would say, encouraging opportunities as opposed to guaranteeing mediocre stability.

I don't disagree. I knew San Fran would come near the bottom because they don't even really want black people there.

OT...I had a conversation with a friend who thinks that a American liberal paradise is leaps and bounds above a GOP paradise. My theory is that they'd look remarkably similar. One will be in a suburb and one would be in a city, but on the surface they would seem very much the same.

(05-14-2015 09:01 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  wait.... so black people are typically doing better in Southern, republican led states?


Interesting.

This article is about cities.

(05-14-2015 09:52 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 09:01 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  wait.... so black people are typically doing better in Southern, republican led states?


Interesting.

This article is about cities.

It's sad you don't realize the cities are actually in the states. Anyway, interesting article.

(05-14-2015 09:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 09:52 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 09:01 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  wait.... so black people are typically doing better in Southern, republican led states?


Interesting.

This article is about cities.

It's sad you don't realize the cities are actually in the states. Anyway, interesting article.

I know where the cities are. The states however influence the economy of their cities very differently however. I live in a big state here in Texas where the economy of the largest cities differ greatly.

(05-14-2015 09:49 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I don't disagree. I knew San Fran would come near the bottom because they don't even really want black people there.

In fairness, they don't want poor people there. They don't care about your race as long as you are wealthy. It's why they want to raise the min wage because it would force out even more people and 'poor' businesses or those that cater to less wealthy people based on price.

Quote:OT...I had a conversation with a friend who thinks that a American liberal paradise is leaps and bounds above a GOP paradise. My theory is that they'd look remarkably similar. One will be in a suburb and one would be in a city, but on the surface they would seem very much the same.

It's why many argue that the political spectrum is a circle not a line.

(05-14-2015 09:56 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I know where the cities are. The states however influence the economy of their cities very differently however. I live in a big state here in Texas where the economy of the largest cities differ greatly.

Yet all of them are in the top 15 for African-Americans.... whereas the largest cities in California are in the bottom... which certainly implies that there is something about the States. MAYBE it's as simple as a state that lets the cities run themselves and 'be different' versus one that tries to make all the cities run themselves the same way? Having lived and worked as an adult in both... I think there is lots of truth in that.