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RE: Football had 10th largest increase in attendance
(05-13-2015 07:43 AM)fsquid Wrote:  http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_r...e/2014.pdf

Interesting that UAB was #2

I love tiger football and have been a fan since crump stadium days.

BUT, speaking purely.mathematically, isn't such an increase akin to vast improvements on the field after several horrific seasons?
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RE: Football had 10th largest increase in attendance
(05-14-2015 09:28 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
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(05-14-2015 08:35 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(05-13-2015 09:20 AM)pdlglm Wrote:  
(05-13-2015 08:32 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  I agree. If they can more or less sustain a bowl-caliber team and jazz up the home schedule a bit, I think Memphis can get 40-45K per game.

That said, I think they'll go right back to their old ways when Fuente moves on in a year or two.

If he were to stay another year he may leave us with a strong enough foundation where one more good coaching hire could sustain this thing for a while. I am just glad we have him this season. Anything after this season is gravy.

But if you can follow up his hire with another good hire (if not a home run, maybe a stand up double) then the program may get to a point where it becomes an attractive job to good young coaches.

Eastman & Beaudine Management Consultants of Plano, Texas, was used in the search for both Fuente and Bowen. My guess is that we will continue to use them. They are the leading athletic search firm in the country.

Aren't you one of those saying that we can't get anyone better to coach basketball? Yet you are confident in the search firm to get another football coach?

Never said that. What I said was I don't see a screaming need to change our current basketball coach today. When that time comes....should it ever come....I think we are capable of finding an excellent coach (probably someone under the radar similar to the hiring of Gene Bartow and Dana Kirk). And, as for football...for those concerned about the possibility of Coach Fuente leaving.....should that event ever take place....I think we are capable of finding a capable replacement (again, probably someone under the radar such as Coach Fuente). I hope that clarifies my position. One thing I have noticed in numerous posts by numerous posters is the lack of mention of Eastman & Beaudine despite their great impact and influence on the recruitment of our AD and coaches.

Fuente is probably the best coach Memphis football has ever had. What makes you think they can easily find a guy just like him when he leaves? The odds are that they'll get another Rip Scherer or Tommy West. I know that sounds pessimistic, but it's hard to sustain success at a program that has been bad historically.

I'd be more optimistic at the basketball team's chances of finding a good replacement when Pastner leaves or gets fired. The bball team has a history of good coaches and has tradition and investment in the program.

My opinion is that Memphis got lucky with Fuente. When you take chances on guys with no head coaching experience, that's what it takes to get one who is on his way to bigger and better things. Fuente's success, in my opinion, won't make them able to attract a successful young coach who does have head coaching experience at the D1 level. They'll still have to go after a coordinator or retread and hope they can be successful as a head coach. So, in essence, they will be doing the same thing they did when they replaced every coach they've ever had. It won't be any easier this time because of success under Fuente.
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RE: Football had 10th largest increase in attendance
(05-14-2015 12:05 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 09:28 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:41 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:35 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(05-13-2015 09:20 AM)pdlglm Wrote:  If he were to stay another year he may leave us with a strong enough foundation where one more good coaching hire could sustain this thing for a while. I am just glad we have him this season. Anything after this season is gravy.

But if you can follow up his hire with another good hire (if not a home run, maybe a stand up double) then the program may get to a point where it becomes an attractive job to good young coaches.

Eastman & Beaudine Management Consultants of Plano, Texas, was used in the search for both Fuente and Bowen. My guess is that we will continue to use them. They are the leading athletic search firm in the country.

Aren't you one of those saying that we can't get anyone better to coach basketball? Yet you are confident in the search firm to get another football coach?

Never said that. What I said was I don't see a screaming need to change our current basketball coach today. When that time comes....should it ever come....I think we are capable of finding an excellent coach (probably someone under the radar similar to the hiring of Gene Bartow and Dana Kirk). And, as for football...for those concerned about the possibility of Coach Fuente leaving.....should that event ever take place....I think we are capable of finding a capable replacement (again, probably someone under the radar such as Coach Fuente). I hope that clarifies my position. One thing I have noticed in numerous posts by numerous posters is the lack of mention of Eastman & Beaudine despite their great impact and influence on the recruitment of our AD and coaches.

Fuente is probably the best coach Memphis football has ever had. What makes you think they can easily find a guy just like him when he leaves? The odds are that they'll get another Rip Scherer or Tommy West. I know that sounds pessimistic, but it's hard to sustain success at a program that has been bad historically.

I'd be more optimistic at the basketball team's chances of finding a good replacement when Pastner leaves or gets fired. The bball team has a history of good coaches and has tradition and investment in the program.

My opinion is that Memphis got lucky with Fuente. When you take chances on guys with no head coaching experience, that's what it takes to get one who is on his way to bigger and better things. Fuente's success, in my opinion, won't make them able to attract a successful young coach who does have head coaching experience at the D1 level. They'll still have to go after a coordinator or retread and hope they can be successful as a head coach. So, in essence, they will be doing the same thing they did when they replaced every coach they've ever had. It won't be any easier this time because of success under Fuente.

The guys that ran the Fuente search knew what they were doing. Both coaches that were targeted ended up being great.

If future searches are ran the same way as the Fuente hire, we will be fine more times than not. If searches are run based upon the fanbase wanting a certain coach, then we can revert back to being dumpster fire we were under Porter.
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(05-14-2015 12:49 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 12:05 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 09:28 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:41 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:35 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Eastman & Beaudine Management Consultants of Plano, Texas, was used in the search for both Fuente and Bowen. My guess is that we will continue to use them. They are the leading athletic search firm in the country.

Aren't you one of those saying that we can't get anyone better to coach basketball? Yet you are confident in the search firm to get another football coach?

Never said that. What I said was I don't see a screaming need to change our current basketball coach today. When that time comes....should it ever come....I think we are capable of finding an excellent coach (probably someone under the radar similar to the hiring of Gene Bartow and Dana Kirk). And, as for football...for those concerned about the possibility of Coach Fuente leaving.....should that event ever take place....I think we are capable of finding a capable replacement (again, probably someone under the radar such as Coach Fuente). I hope that clarifies my position. One thing I have noticed in numerous posts by numerous posters is the lack of mention of Eastman & Beaudine despite their great impact and influence on the recruitment of our AD and coaches.

Fuente is probably the best coach Memphis football has ever had. What makes you think they can easily find a guy just like him when he leaves? The odds are that they'll get another Rip Scherer or Tommy West. I know that sounds pessimistic, but it's hard to sustain success at a program that has been bad historically.

I'd be more optimistic at the basketball team's chances of finding a good replacement when Pastner leaves or gets fired. The bball team has a history of good coaches and has tradition and investment in the program.

My opinion is that Memphis got lucky with Fuente. When you take chances on guys with no head coaching experience, that's what it takes to get one who is on his way to bigger and better things. Fuente's success, in my opinion, won't make them able to attract a successful young coach who does have head coaching experience at the D1 level. They'll still have to go after a coordinator or retread and hope they can be successful as a head coach. So, in essence, they will be doing the same thing they did when they replaced every coach they've ever had. It won't be any easier this time because of success under Fuente.

The guys that ran the Fuente search knew what they were doing. Both coaches there targeted ended up being great.

If future searches are ran the same way as the Fuente hire, we will be fine more times than not. If searches are run based upon the fanbase wanting a certain coach, then we can revert back to being dumpster fire we were under Porter.

The fans were for Porter? I thought it was all the high school coaches and Calkins?
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RE: Football had 10th largest increase in attendance
(05-14-2015 12:05 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 09:28 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:41 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:35 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(05-13-2015 09:20 AM)pdlglm Wrote:  If he were to stay another year he may leave us with a strong enough foundation where one more good coaching hire could sustain this thing for a while. I am just glad we have him this season. Anything after this season is gravy.

But if you can follow up his hire with another good hire (if not a home run, maybe a stand up double) then the program may get to a point where it becomes an attractive job to good young coaches.

Eastman & Beaudine Management Consultants of Plano, Texas, was used in the search for both Fuente and Bowen. My guess is that we will continue to use them. They are the leading athletic search firm in the country.

Aren't you one of those saying that we can't get anyone better to coach basketball? Yet you are confident in the search firm to get another football coach?

Never said that. What I said was I don't see a screaming need to change our current basketball coach today. When that time comes....should it ever come....I think we are capable of finding an excellent coach (probably someone under the radar similar to the hiring of Gene Bartow and Dana Kirk). And, as for football...for those concerned about the possibility of Coach Fuente leaving.....should that event ever take place....I think we are capable of finding a capable replacement (again, probably someone under the radar such as Coach Fuente). I hope that clarifies my position. One thing I have noticed in numerous posts by numerous posters is the lack of mention of Eastman & Beaudine despite their great impact and influence on the recruitment of our AD and coaches.

Fuente is probably the best coach Memphis football has ever had. What makes you think they can easily find a guy just like him when he leaves? The odds are that they'll get another Rip Scherer or Tommy West. I know that sounds pessimistic, but it's hard to sustain success at a program that has been bad historically.

I'd be more optimistic at the basketball team's chances of finding a good replacement when Pastner leaves or gets fired. The bball team has a history of good coaches and has tradition and investment in the program.

My opinion is that Memphis got lucky with Fuente. When you take chances on guys with no head coaching experience, that's what it takes to get one who is on his way to bigger and better things. Fuente's success, in my opinion, won't make them able to attract a successful young coach who does have head coaching experience at the D1 level. They'll still have to go after a coordinator or retread and hope they can be successful as a head coach. So, in essence, they will be doing the same thing they did when they replaced every coach they've ever had. It won't be any easier this time because of success under Fuente.

I think it is easier to find a football coach than it is to find a basketball coach, and much less luck is involved.
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If Fuente's success continues, other good young coaches will think 'I can do it at Memphis too'. You really only need a couple of those guys in a row before you become a solid non Power 5 program.

Now that doesn't guarantee you good coaching hires; even solid P5 programs whiff on coaches (see: Dooley, Derek), but it at least allows you to fish in the right pond.
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(05-14-2015 11:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
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(05-13-2015 12:57 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  Bingo. 47k at the MTSU game after giving UCLA all they could handle. Then lost to Ole Miss and had 33k-ish at the next home game

Bingo? MTSU was an aberration. We drew 33k for Houston, 26k for Tulsa after a very impressive road win at Cincy, and then around 34k each for USF and UConn. Losing to Ole Piss had nothing to do with anything.

But, playing them down thete, the way we did was a definite boost. IMHO

If we had beat Ole Miss the crowd woulda been bigger for the next home game. Anyone who disagrees with that just likes to argue..... But consider the source

46,378 for MTSU was an aberration if there ever was one. It was more than 11,000 more than our next best attended game. Houston, USF and UConn all within 2,300 of each other, and we were 9-3 and on a 5 game winning streak for the UConn game. Tulsa attendance would have been around the same, but was hurt by Halloween.

Yes, always consider the source. In this case, the source also said that Bowen and Rudd are puppets and to think otherwise, is naïve.

LMAO.

See, boss. This is what I was talking about. You don't understand how it works. But that's not your fault. You don't live here, don't attend games, etc. That MTSU attendance was not an aberration. That crowd was the result of, "Holy cow. We just hung with a top 15 team, and we're going to beat a top 15 team next week in Oxford!" THATS how our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans work. They fell off when we lost to ole miss. Beat ole miss, and there's 40,000+ at Houston. Basically 5,000 more at every home game. Hell, maybe even more
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(05-14-2015 08:28 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 11:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:27 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(05-13-2015 04:54 PM)dan o Wrote:  
(05-13-2015 01:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Bingo? MTSU was an aberration. We drew 33k for Houston, 26k for Tulsa after a very impressive road win at Cincy, and then around 34k each for USF and UConn. Losing to Ole Piss had nothing to do with anything.

But, playing them down thete, the way we did was a definite boost. IMHO

If we had beat Ole Miss the crowd woulda been bigger for the next home game. Anyone who disagrees with that just likes to argue..... But consider the source

46,378 for MTSU was an aberration if there ever was one. It was more than 11,000 more than our next best attended game. Houston, USF and UConn all within 2,300 of each other, and we were 9-3 and on a 5 game winning streak for the UConn game. Tulsa attendance would have been around the same, but was hurt by Halloween.

Yes, always consider the source. In this case, the source also said that Bowen and Rudd are puppets and to think otherwise, is naïve.

LMAO.

See, boss. This is what I was talking about. You don't understand how it works. But that's not your fault. You don't live here, don't attend games, etc. That MTSU attendance was not an aberration. That crowd was the result of, "Holy cow. We just hung with a top 15 team, and we're going to beat a top 15 team next week in Oxford!" THATS how our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans work. They fell off when we lost to ole miss. Beat ole miss, and there's 40,000+ at Houston. Basically 5,000 more at every home game. Hell, maybe even more

After the Ole Piss game we hammered Cincy; were 3-2, with only 1 season out of the previous 5 with more than 3 wins, and we end up drawing 32,784 for Houston.

Going into our second to last game against Tulane, we are 7-3, on a 4 game winning streak, after 2 straight road games and draw 34,635.

We go into the season ender against UConn 8-3, on a 5 game winning streak, and draw 35,102.

MTSU was an aberration, a full 11,000 - 13,000 higher than normal and coming off of a loss.
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(05-14-2015 12:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 12:05 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 09:28 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:41 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:35 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Eastman & Beaudine Management Consultants of Plano, Texas, was used in the search for both Fuente and Bowen. My guess is that we will continue to use them. They are the leading athletic search firm in the country.

Aren't you one of those saying that we can't get anyone better to coach basketball? Yet you are confident in the search firm to get another football coach?

Never said that. What I said was I don't see a screaming need to change our current basketball coach today. When that time comes....should it ever come....I think we are capable of finding an excellent coach (probably someone under the radar similar to the hiring of Gene Bartow and Dana Kirk). And, as for football...for those concerned about the possibility of Coach Fuente leaving.....should that event ever take place....I think we are capable of finding a capable replacement (again, probably someone under the radar such as Coach Fuente). I hope that clarifies my position. One thing I have noticed in numerous posts by numerous posters is the lack of mention of Eastman & Beaudine despite their great impact and influence on the recruitment of our AD and coaches.

Fuente is probably the best coach Memphis football has ever had. What makes you think they can easily find a guy just like him when he leaves? The odds are that they'll get another Rip Scherer or Tommy West. I know that sounds pessimistic, but it's hard to sustain success at a program that has been bad historically.

I'd be more optimistic at the basketball team's chances of finding a good replacement when Pastner leaves or gets fired. The bball team has a history of good coaches and has tradition and investment in the program.

My opinion is that Memphis got lucky with Fuente. When you take chances on guys with no head coaching experience, that's what it takes to get one who is on his way to bigger and better things. Fuente's success, in my opinion, won't make them able to attract a successful young coach who does have head coaching experience at the D1 level. They'll still have to go after a coordinator or retread and hope they can be successful as a head coach. So, in essence, they will be doing the same thing they did when they replaced every coach they've ever had. It won't be any easier this time because of success under Fuente.

I think it is easier to find a football coach than it is to find a basketball coach, and much less luck is involved.

I would think it would be harder to hire a guy that can assemble a staff with a dozen or so assistants and 95 scholarship players than it is to hire one with 3 assistants and 13 scholarship players. Might be the reason we've been successful in basketball under numerous coaches and not so much in football the last 40 years.
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The weather was bad all day for the Houston game.
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(05-15-2015 10:00 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 12:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 12:05 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 09:28 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:41 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Aren't you one of those saying that we can't get anyone better to coach basketball? Yet you are confident in the search firm to get another football coach?

Never said that. What I said was I don't see a screaming need to change our current basketball coach today. When that time comes....should it ever come....I think we are capable of finding an excellent coach (probably someone under the radar similar to the hiring of Gene Bartow and Dana Kirk). And, as for football...for those concerned about the possibility of Coach Fuente leaving.....should that event ever take place....I think we are capable of finding a capable replacement (again, probably someone under the radar such as Coach Fuente). I hope that clarifies my position. One thing I have noticed in numerous posts by numerous posters is the lack of mention of Eastman & Beaudine despite their great impact and influence on the recruitment of our AD and coaches.

Fuente is probably the best coach Memphis football has ever had. What makes you think they can easily find a guy just like him when he leaves? The odds are that they'll get another Rip Scherer or Tommy West. I know that sounds pessimistic, but it's hard to sustain success at a program that has been bad historically.

I'd be more optimistic at the basketball team's chances of finding a good replacement when Pastner leaves or gets fired. The bball team has a history of good coaches and has tradition and investment in the program.

My opinion is that Memphis got lucky with Fuente. When you take chances on guys with no head coaching experience, that's what it takes to get one who is on his way to bigger and better things. Fuente's success, in my opinion, won't make them able to attract a successful young coach who does have head coaching experience at the D1 level. They'll still have to go after a coordinator or retread and hope they can be successful as a head coach. So, in essence, they will be doing the same thing they did when they replaced every coach they've ever had. It won't be any easier this time because of success under Fuente.

I think it is easier to find a football coach than it is to find a basketball coach, and much less luck is involved.

I would think it would be harder to hire a guy that can assemble a staff with a dozen or so assistants and 95 scholarship players than it is to hire one with 3 assistants and 13 scholarship players. Might be the reason we've been successful in basketball under numerous coaches and not so much in football the last 40 years.

Facilities wise it has always been apples and oranges. The reason I say this is because with basketball, the responsibilities and the perception of responsibilities are limited mostly to the head coach. It isn't easy to identify the assistant coaches that can be expected to be good X and O guys and recruit at a high level, because the head coaches are so highly visible.

In football, you have offensive and defensive coordinators on every team that you can assume have a very hands on involvement, and are directly responsible one or all of player development, recruiting, and game planning.

One can assume that Fuente was very involved at TCU because as you mentioned, there are 95 players to look after, and coordinators/coaches, for offense, defense, special teams and the various position coaches.

Quote:Might be the reason we've been successful in basketball under numerous coaches and not so much in football the last 40 years.

Perception has probably been that we were one of the 10-20 worst jobs in the country up until 5 years ago. Before 5 years ago the LB was falling apart, we didn't even have the team logo on the field, it hadn't been painted, Tiger Lane didn't exist, and the practice facilities and weight room didn't exist in their present state.

If you look back to 2009, there wasn't a single marquee program in our conference. If you look back to 2002, the only really good program was TCU, and they were just starting to be really good, and were drawing 25,000 per game. Louisville, Cincy, and Houston were average programs. The best program in the conference was probably USM.

Flip flop the facilities and football would be easier to grow than basketball. Plug the equivalent of FEF and the Finch as our football facilities, and have us playing in a conference where our football mates (Louisville, Cincy, Marquette, DePaul) were equivalents in football, and we would probably be a top 25 program every year.

Where would we be in basketball if we were still playing at the MSC, and it was completely neglected up until 2010?
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(05-15-2015 09:58 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:28 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 11:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:27 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(05-13-2015 04:54 PM)dan o Wrote:  But, playing them down thete, the way we did was a definite boost. IMHO

If we had beat Ole Miss the crowd woulda been bigger for the next home game. Anyone who disagrees with that just likes to argue..... But consider the source

46,378 for MTSU was an aberration if there ever was one. It was more than 11,000 more than our next best attended game. Houston, USF and UConn all within 2,300 of each other, and we were 9-3 and on a 5 game winning streak for the UConn game. Tulsa attendance would have been around the same, but was hurt by Halloween.

Yes, always consider the source. In this case, the source also said that Bowen and Rudd are puppets and to think otherwise, is naïve.

LMAO.

See, boss. This is what I was talking about. You don't understand how it works. But that's not your fault. You don't live here, don't attend games, etc. That MTSU attendance was not an aberration. That crowd was the result of, "Holy cow. We just hung with a top 15 team, and we're going to beat a top 15 team next week in Oxford!" THATS how our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans work. They fell off when we lost to ole miss. Beat ole miss, and there's 40,000+ at Houston. Basically 5,000 more at every home game. Hell, maybe even more

After the Ole Piss game we hammered Cincy; were 3-2, with only 1 season out of the previous 5 with more than 3 wins, and we end up drawing 32,784 for Houston.

Going into our second to last game against Tulane, we are 7-3, on a 4 game winning streak, after 2 straight road games and draw 34,635.

We go into the season ender against UConn 8-3, on a 5 game winning streak, and draw 35,102.

MTSU was an aberration, a full 11,000 - 13,000 higher than normal and coming off of a loss.

You completely ignored my point again. I'm talking about our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans. We have many, many of those. And those showed up at the MTSU game Bc of our showing at UCLA. Beat ole miss, and those fans continue to come back. Those fans don't care about Cincy, Houston, being 7-3, playing for a conference championship, etc. They care about beating ole miss. We've always had that group. And it's a rather large group.
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(05-14-2015 11:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:27 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  If we had beat Ole Miss the crowd woulda been bigger for the next home game. Anyone who disagrees with that just likes to argue..... But consider the source

46,378 for MTSU was an aberration if there ever was one. It was more than 11,000 more than our next best attended game. Houston, USF and UConn all within 2,300 of each other, and we were 9-3 and on a 5 game winning streak for the UConn game. Tulsa attendance would have been around the same, but was hurt by Halloween.

Yes, always consider the source. In this case, the source also said that Bowen and Rudd are puppets and to think otherwise, is naïve.

LMAO.

See, boss. This is what I was talking about. You don't understand how it works. But that's not your fault. You don't live here, don't attend games, etc. That MTSU attendance was not an aberration. That crowd was the result of, "Holy cow. We just hung with a top 15 team, and we're going to beat a top 15 team next week in Oxford!" THATS how our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans work. They fell off when we lost to ole miss. Beat ole miss, and there's 40,000+ at Houston. Basically 5,000 more at every home game. Hell, maybe even more

After the Ole Piss game we hammered Cincy; were 3-2, with only 1 season out of the previous 5 with more than 3 wins, and we end up drawing 32,784 for Houston.

Going into our second to last game against Tulane, we are 7-3, on a 4 game winning streak, after 2 straight road games and draw 34,635.

We go into the season ender against UConn 8-3, on a 5 game winning streak, and draw 35,102.

MTSU was an aberration, a full 11,000 - 13,000 higher than normal and coming off of a loss.

You completely ignored my point again. I'm talking about our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans. We have many, many of those. And those showed up at the MTSU game Bc of our showing at UCLA. Beat ole miss, and those fans continue to come back. Those fans don't care about Cincy, Houston, being 7-3, playing for a conference championship, etc. They care about beating ole miss. We've always had that group. And it's a rather large group.

You're spitting in the wind trying to explain to him. He only picks out the one sentence or word that satisfies his agenda. Sometimes he even makes stuff up.


Here's an example of such : RC < Bowen
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(05-16-2015 08:44 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 06:50 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 09:58 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:28 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 11:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  46,378 for MTSU was an aberration if there ever was one. It was more than 11,000 more than our next best attended game. Houston, USF and UConn all within 2,300 of each other, and we were 9-3 and on a 5 game winning streak for the UConn game. Tulsa attendance would have been around the same, but was hurt by Halloween.

Yes, always consider the source. In this case, the source also said that Bowen and Rudd are puppets and to think otherwise, is naïve.

LMAO.

See, boss. This is what I was talking about. You don't understand how it works. But that's not your fault. You don't live here, don't attend games, etc. That MTSU attendance was not an aberration. That crowd was the result of, "Holy cow. We just hung with a top 15 team, and we're going to beat a top 15 team next week in Oxford!" THATS how our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans work. They fell off when we lost to ole miss. Beat ole miss, and there's 40,000+ at Houston. Basically 5,000 more at every home game. Hell, maybe even more

After the Ole Piss game we hammered Cincy; were 3-2, with only 1 season out of the previous 5 with more than 3 wins, and we end up drawing 32,784 for Houston.

Going into our second to last game against Tulane, we are 7-3, on a 4 game winning streak, after 2 straight road games and draw 34,635.

We go into the season ender against UConn 8-3, on a 5 game winning streak, and draw 35,102.

MTSU was an aberration, a full 11,000 - 13,000 higher than normal and coming off of a loss.

You completely ignored my point again. I'm talking about our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans. We have many, many of those. And those showed up at the MTSU game Bc of our showing at UCLA. Beat ole miss, and those fans continue to come back. Those fans don't care about Cincy, Houston, being 7-3, playing for a conference championship, etc. They care about beating ole miss. We've always had that group. And it's a rather large group.

You're spitting in the wind trying to explain to him. He only picks out the one sentence or word that satisfies his agenda. Sometimes he even makes stuff up.


Here's an example of such : RC < Bowen

From the RC is the scapegoat guy.

LMAO.
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(05-15-2015 06:50 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 09:58 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:28 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 11:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:27 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  If we had beat Ole Miss the crowd woulda been bigger for the next home game. Anyone who disagrees with that just likes to argue..... But consider the source

46,378 for MTSU was an aberration if there ever was one. It was more than 11,000 more than our next best attended game. Houston, USF and UConn all within 2,300 of each other, and we were 9-3 and on a 5 game winning streak for the UConn game. Tulsa attendance would have been around the same, but was hurt by Halloween.

Yes, always consider the source. In this case, the source also said that Bowen and Rudd are puppets and to think otherwise, is naïve.

LMAO.

See, boss. This is what I was talking about. You don't understand how it works. But that's not your fault. You don't live here, don't attend games, etc. That MTSU attendance was not an aberration. That crowd was the result of, "Holy cow. We just hung with a top 15 team, and we're going to beat a top 15 team next week in Oxford!" THATS how our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans work. They fell off when we lost to ole miss. Beat ole miss, and there's 40,000+ at Houston. Basically 5,000 more at every home game. Hell, maybe even more

After the Ole Piss game we hammered Cincy; were 3-2, with only 1 season out of the previous 5 with more than 3 wins, and we end up drawing 32,784 for Houston.

Going into our second to last game against Tulane, we are 7-3, on a 4 game winning streak, after 2 straight road games and draw 34,635.

We go into the season ender against UConn 8-3, on a 5 game winning streak, and draw 35,102.

MTSU was an aberration, a full 11,000 - 13,000 higher than normal and coming off of a loss.

You completely ignored my point again. I'm talking about our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans. We have many, many of those. And those showed up at the MTSU game Bc of our showing at UCLA. Beat ole miss, and those fans continue to come back. Those fans don't care about Cincy, Houston, being 7-3, playing for a conference championship, etc. They care about beating ole miss. We've always had that group. And it's a rather large group.

It would have been another 4,000 - 5,000 tops. I don't have to live in Memphis to know that the fans don't care that much about moral victories. The UCLA loss didn't bring in an extra 15,000 fans. MTSU was an aberration.
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RE: Football had 10th largest increase in attendance
It seems like our first home game is usually our best crowd. The fact that neither Ole Miss or UT had a game that day probably played into it as well. Too bad the LB had that ticket snafu
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RE: Football had 10th largest increase in attendance
(05-18-2015 11:09 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 06:50 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 09:58 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:28 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 11:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  46,378 for MTSU was an aberration if there ever was one. It was more than 11,000 more than our next best attended game. Houston, USF and UConn all within 2,300 of each other, and we were 9-3 and on a 5 game winning streak for the UConn game. Tulsa attendance would have been around the same, but was hurt by Halloween.

Yes, always consider the source. In this case, the source also said that Bowen and Rudd are puppets and to think otherwise, is naïve.

LMAO.

See, boss. This is what I was talking about. You don't understand how it works. But that's not your fault. You don't live here, don't attend games, etc. That MTSU attendance was not an aberration. That crowd was the result of, "Holy cow. We just hung with a top 15 team, and we're going to beat a top 15 team next week in Oxford!" THATS how our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans work. They fell off when we lost to ole miss. Beat ole miss, and there's 40,000+ at Houston. Basically 5,000 more at every home game. Hell, maybe even more

After the Ole Piss game we hammered Cincy; were 3-2, with only 1 season out of the previous 5 with more than 3 wins, and we end up drawing 32,784 for Houston.

Going into our second to last game against Tulane, we are 7-3, on a 4 game winning streak, after 2 straight road games and draw 34,635.

We go into the season ender against UConn 8-3, on a 5 game winning streak, and draw 35,102.

MTSU was an aberration, a full 11,000 - 13,000 higher than normal and coming off of a loss.

You completely ignored my point again. I'm talking about our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans. We have many, many of those. And those showed up at the MTSU game Bc of our showing at UCLA. Beat ole miss, and those fans continue to come back. Those fans don't care about Cincy, Houston, being 7-3, playing for a conference championship, etc. They care about beating ole miss. We've always had that group. And it's a rather large group.

It would have been another 4,000 - 5,000 tops. I don't have to live in Memphis to know that the fans don't care that much about moral victories. The UCLA loss didn't bring in an extra 15,000 fans. MTSU was an aberration.

See, that's where you're wrong. But oh well.
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(05-18-2015 11:09 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 06:50 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 09:58 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:28 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 11:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  46,378 for MTSU was an aberration if there ever was one. It was more than 11,000 more than our next best attended game. Houston, USF and UConn all within 2,300 of each other, and we were 9-3 and on a 5 game winning streak for the UConn game. Tulsa attendance would have been around the same, but was hurt by Halloween.

Yes, always consider the source. In this case, the source also said that Bowen and Rudd are puppets and to think otherwise, is naïve.

LMAO.

See, boss. This is what I was talking about. You don't understand how it works. But that's not your fault. You don't live here, don't attend games, etc. That MTSU attendance was not an aberration. That crowd was the result of, "Holy cow. We just hung with a top 15 team, and we're going to beat a top 15 team next week in Oxford!" THATS how our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans work. They fell off when we lost to ole miss. Beat ole miss, and there's 40,000+ at Houston. Basically 5,000 more at every home game. Hell, maybe even more

After the Ole Piss game we hammered Cincy; were 3-2, with only 1 season out of the previous 5 with more than 3 wins, and we end up drawing 32,784 for Houston.

Going into our second to last game against Tulane, we are 7-3, on a 4 game winning streak, after 2 straight road games and draw 34,635.

We go into the season ender against UConn 8-3, on a 5 game winning streak, and draw 35,102.

MTSU was an aberration, a full 11,000 - 13,000 higher than normal and coming off of a loss.

You completely ignored my point again. I'm talking about our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans. We have many, many of those. And those showed up at the MTSU game Bc of our showing at UCLA. Beat ole miss, and those fans continue to come back. Those fans don't care about Cincy, Houston, being 7-3, playing for a conference championship, etc. They care about beating ole miss. We've always had that group. And it's a rather large group.

It would have been another 4,000 - 5,000 tops. I don't have to live in Memphis to know that the fans don't care that much about moral victories. The UCLA loss didn't bring in an extra 15,000 fans. MTSU was an aberration.

Ijust don't believe you are right.
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RE: Football had 10th largest increase in attendance
(05-18-2015 08:05 PM)FUB Wrote:  
(05-18-2015 11:09 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 06:50 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  
(05-15-2015 09:58 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2015 08:28 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  See, boss. This is what I was talking about. You don't understand how it works. But that's not your fault. You don't live here, don't attend games, etc. That MTSU attendance was not an aberration. That crowd was the result of, "Holy cow. We just hung with a top 15 team, and we're going to beat a top 15 team next week in Oxford!" THATS how our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans work. They fell off when we lost to ole miss. Beat ole miss, and there's 40,000+ at Houston. Basically 5,000 more at every home game. Hell, maybe even more

After the Ole Piss game we hammered Cincy; were 3-2, with only 1 season out of the previous 5 with more than 3 wins, and we end up drawing 32,784 for Houston.

Going into our second to last game against Tulane, we are 7-3, on a 4 game winning streak, after 2 straight road games and draw 34,635.

We go into the season ender against UConn 8-3, on a 5 game winning streak, and draw 35,102.

MTSU was an aberration, a full 11,000 - 13,000 higher than normal and coming off of a loss.

You completely ignored my point again. I'm talking about our bandwagon/tag along when we beat ole miss fans. We have many, many of those. And those showed up at the MTSU game Bc of our showing at UCLA. Beat ole miss, and those fans continue to come back. Those fans don't care about Cincy, Houston, being 7-3, playing for a conference championship, etc. They care about beating ole miss. We've always had that group. And it's a rather large group.

It would have been another 4,000 - 5,000 tops. I don't have to live in Memphis to know that the fans don't care that much about moral victories. The UCLA loss didn't bring in an extra 15,000 fans. MTSU was an aberration.

Ijust don't believe you are right.

He's not.

If "MTSU was an aberration", what does that mean, exactly? I mean, that makes it sound like "accident", as if 47,000 people "accidentally" showed up at the LB and they didn't know why. People attend games for a reason.

What it meant was, we had just given UCLA all they wanted, much to the surprise of the rest of the nation, and in the minds of those fans with pride issues at work with their SEC friends and co-workers, there was still hope to get national recognition with the Ole Miss game. There was still a chance to be part of big-boy football discussion at the water cooler. In short, we were still relevant when we played MTSU. After we played and lost to Ole Miss, we were no longer relevant.

look at it this way. If MTSU and Houston had traded spots on the home schedule, the attendance figures would have been the same on the same dates.
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