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So You Think The AAC Can't Potentially Poach Mountain West Schools?
(05-10-2015 11:05 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 08:54 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  Espn has been actively in talks with the AAC about elevating the conf.

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It is all about the money. What conference leads in annual revenues TV etc and to a lesser extent TV exposure. I would only want Air Force and independent BYU.
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(05-10-2015 10:46 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  In the eyes of the playoff, all G5 conferences are the same... but in the long term scheme of things they are not. I have and will continue to strongly believe that the end game is to break off 75-80 teams and form an upper level above FBS and right now the AAC is the 6th conference. This is why I want to attempt to lure away a couple MWC teams and further weaken them.

and yes, the AAC was WIDELY known to be undervalued. This has been said by several analyst and repeated by our commisioner, who just so happens to be a long time TV veteran. The simple fact is the value of our individual teams was worth more then the conference... meaning, nobody knew who was staying or going, so they werent going to spend money on it.

Now that it is settled and we are performing pretty well, I can see us getting a bump. I have never said the TV contract will be $10 million. What I have said is that I believe our total revenue will get closer to the $10-12 million range. I think tripling our TV contract to about $6-7 million is feasable. Add in NCAA credits and Playoff money and were now almost at $10 million. Then I think the AAC can make a case for us to get a larger share of the Playoff money because we are the 6th conference... and so far the only one that has a BCS/Access bowl win AND an NCAA championship (in 2 sports).

The ACC will make about $25 million in 2019 (they are on an elevator system that increases each year but isnt maxed out) and I dont think its insane to think the AAC will be around half of that and the Clear cut leader at #6... which will put us in a good position to be included in the break away.

as much as people hate ESPN, I think its best we sign whatever deal they send us... or else amazingly enough realignment will happen again (shocking) and this conference will be plucked apart.

If the P5 thought they needed you guys, they wouldn't have excluded the Big East from the big time in the first place. Instead, they chose to elevate only those Big East programs that they wanted. What has changed exactly, that would now make the P5 see fit to add the entire AAC to it's exclusive club?
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Boise State has every right to the extra money. They built their brand on the field of battle and earned their pay. The UNLV AD should focus on improving her putrid football team instead of attacking the successful.
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(05-10-2015 01:30 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Boise State has every right to the extra money. They built their brand on the field of battle and earned their pay. The UNLV AD should focus on improving her putrid football team instead of attacking the successful.

College football isn't about earning anything. It is about tradition and markets.
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(05-10-2015 12:53 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 10:46 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  In the eyes of the playoff, all G5 conferences are the same... but in the long term scheme of things they are not. I have and will continue to strongly believe that the end game is to break off 75-80 teams and form an upper level above FBS and right now the AAC is the 6th conference. This is why I want to attempt to lure away a couple MWC teams and further weaken them.

and yes, the AAC was WIDELY known to be undervalued. This has been said by several analyst and repeated by our commisioner, who just so happens to be a long time TV veteran. The simple fact is the value of our individual teams was worth more then the conference... meaning, nobody knew who was staying or going, so they werent going to spend money on it.

Now that it is settled and we are performing pretty well, I can see us getting a bump. I have never said the TV contract will be $10 million. What I have said is that I believe our total revenue will get closer to the $10-12 million range. I think tripling our TV contract to about $6-7 million is feasable. Add in NCAA credits and Playoff money and were now almost at $10 million. Then I think the AAC can make a case for us to get a larger share of the Playoff money because we are the 6th conference... and so far the only one that has a BCS/Access bowl win AND an NCAA championship (in 2 sports).

The ACC will make about $25 million in 2019 (they are on an elevator system that increases each year but isnt maxed out) and I dont think its insane to think the AAC will be around half of that and the Clear cut leader at #6... which will put us in a good position to be included in the break away.

as much as people hate ESPN, I think its best we sign whatever deal they send us... or else amazingly enough realignment will happen again (shocking) and this conference will be plucked apart.

If the P5 thought they needed you guys, they wouldn't have excluded the Big East from the big time in the first place. Instead, they chose to elevate only those Big East programs that they wanted. What has changed exactly, that would now make the P5 see fit to add the entire AAC to it's exclusive club?

You need a critical mass of teams to have cross conference games. Again you are assuming the p5 is controlling things. They are not.
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(05-10-2015 12:53 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 10:46 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  In the eyes of the playoff, all G5 conferences are the same... but in the long term scheme of things they are not. I have and will continue to strongly believe that the end game is to break off 75-80 teams and form an upper level above FBS and right now the AAC is the 6th conference. This is why I want to attempt to lure away a couple MWC teams and further weaken them.

and yes, the AAC was WIDELY known to be undervalued. This has been said by several analyst and repeated by our commisioner, who just so happens to be a long time TV veteran. The simple fact is the value of our individual teams was worth more then the conference... meaning, nobody knew who was staying or going, so they werent going to spend money on it.

Now that it is settled and we are performing pretty well, I can see us getting a bump. I have never said the TV contract will be $10 million. What I have said is that I believe our total revenue will get closer to the $10-12 million range. I think tripling our TV contract to about $6-7 million is feasable. Add in NCAA credits and Playoff money and were now almost at $10 million. Then I think the AAC can make a case for us to get a larger share of the Playoff money because we are the 6th conference... and so far the only one that has a BCS/Access bowl win AND an NCAA championship (in 2 sports).

The ACC will make about $25 million in 2019 (they are on an elevator system that increases each year but isnt maxed out) and I dont think its insane to think the AAC will be around half of that and the Clear cut leader at #6... which will put us in a good position to be included in the break away.

as much as people hate ESPN, I think its best we sign whatever deal they send us... or else amazingly enough realignment will happen again (shocking) and this conference will be plucked apart.

If the P5 thought they needed you guys, they wouldn't have excluded the Big East from the big time in the first place. Instead, they chose to elevate only those Big East programs that they wanted. What has changed exactly, that would now make the P5 see fit to add the entire AAC to it's exclusive club?

D-1 will eventually break off. We need the budgets, attendance, and on field performance to prove we belong. I could see at least 80 schools making the cut and prevent major problems. Grabbing schools like Navy, Air Force, and Army would help our case.

And the gap between the c-USA and the AAC is huge even if our on the field performance stunk last year. Based on attendance, budgets, etc there is a giant gap. Then basketball is a completely another level.
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(05-10-2015 01:30 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Boise State has every right to the extra money. They built their brand on the field of battle and earned their pay. The UNLV AD should focus on improving her putrid football team instead of attacking the successful.

you have no clue how college athletics work if you think that

ill start off with the hypocrisy of that deal...unlv and sdsu have dramatically carried the MWC in getting ncaa basketball shares, tv prowess and carry the leagues perception. but yet split the revenue evenly

but to the main point....in college sports you come up together or you battle for the king of the scraps..ohio state and maybe 3or 4 other programs are honestly carrying the big 10 but yet ohio state and iowa get the same split. oregon and maybe 3 other teams carry the pac 12 yet oregon and wazzu get the same cut...florida st and clemson are the only currently nationally respectable team in the 14 team acc but yet all split evenly....there is a reason for that and a reason everyone not named the MWC does it like that...

uneven revenue sharing creates have and have nots: when winning teams keep getting more money to build on their success and bad teams loss more and dont get funds to improve, over time you'll see how quickly unfair that league will be and hard it is for certain teams to get better in respect to their league

to the gready folks who are like if my team is "have" i dont rreally care...you are also blind....when your team is in a fight for an access.ncaa tourney bid and realize half your conference is struggling to beat fcs teams because they are lacking funding for improved facilities, coaches and recruiting and your team team has horrendous RPI/SOS becuase of that you'll know why...another situation is that you lose a few mil today to day because you evenly shared burt could gain 10's of million in the future because of it. a better overall conference = better overall tv deals

this is why as a houston fan id take the AAC over the MWC any day.. the MWC has no upward mobility in 6-7 years their is absolutely no reason to believe theyll be that much better than they are now if at all (outside of pure luck)..and a huge potential to be way worse as Boise is single-handedly carrying their perception and them falling off would basically just kill them (and no dynasty last forever)
as is to most analyst top to bottom the AAC is the best G5 (though everyone consider boise the best team) and our upward mobility is crazy, most of our teams are seeing exposure like theyve never seen before , all are heavily investing in sports, facilites and paying for coaches. our increase in bball recruiting league wide has been crazy and vastly improved in football aswell especially for some of the lower teams. in 5-6 years we could be a completely different league as far as league strength and national audience, and unike the MWC we arent carried by 1 team. the MWC is everyone for themselves, in the AAC their is a concerted effort that we are all going to increase our level together and we are trying to be a better conference
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(05-10-2015 12:53 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 10:46 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  In the eyes of the playoff, all G5 conferences are the same... but in the long term scheme of things they are not. I have and will continue to strongly believe that the end game is to break off 75-80 teams and form an upper level above FBS and right now the AAC is the 6th conference. This is why I want to attempt to lure away a couple MWC teams and further weaken them.

and yes, the AAC was WIDELY known to be undervalued. This has been said by several analyst and repeated by our commisioner, who just so happens to be a long time TV veteran. The simple fact is the value of our individual teams was worth more then the conference... meaning, nobody knew who was staying or going, so they werent going to spend money on it.

Now that it is settled and we are performing pretty well, I can see us getting a bump. I have never said the TV contract will be $10 million. What I have said is that I believe our total revenue will get closer to the $10-12 million range. I think tripling our TV contract to about $6-7 million is feasable. Add in NCAA credits and Playoff money and were now almost at $10 million. Then I think the AAC can make a case for us to get a larger share of the Playoff money because we are the 6th conference... and so far the only one that has a BCS/Access bowl win AND an NCAA championship (in 2 sports).

The ACC will make about $25 million in 2019 (they are on an elevator system that increases each year but isnt maxed out) and I dont think its insane to think the AAC will be around half of that and the Clear cut leader at #6... which will put us in a good position to be included in the break away.

as much as people hate ESPN, I think its best we sign whatever deal they send us... or else amazingly enough realignment will happen again (shocking) and this conference will be plucked apart.

If the P5 thought they needed you guys, they wouldn't have excluded the Big East from the big time in the first place. Instead, they chose to elevate only those Big East programs that they wanted. What has changed exactly, that would now make the P5 see fit to add the entire AAC to it's exclusive club?

We wouldn't be a power confernce. We'd still be number 6. I just think we would be a nationwide 20 team conference carrying most of the bigger G5 names that TV would be interested in. Basically, the AAC would fill a lot of holes in the P5 pattern
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Adding BYU, Boise, AF, SDSU, Fresno, Colo St, etc. wouldn't make the AAC a power conference. It would however get us a better tv deal I would think (wouldn't take much), would make it so the conference winner was the ACCESS BOWL participant most years (a selling point to recruits), and would make for some better home games for fans (attendance).

So in my mind taking the best of the MWC and the AAC allows for:
1. Better TV deal (and bowls)
2. ACCESS BOWL for the winner (at least most/many years...recruiting aid).
3. Better conference home games (attendance).


So I think taking the best of the MWC and AAC is a win for all those that 'make the cut'.

Something like this..

EAST:
UC
UCONN
Navy
UCF
ECU
Memphis

West:
Boise
BYU
SDSU
AF
Fresno
Col St

Other schools to consider: UH, SMU, UNLV, New Mex, Temple, USF
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(05-10-2015 12:53 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  If the P5 thought they needed you guys, they wouldn't have excluded the Big East from the big time in the first place. Instead, they chose to elevate only those Big East programs that they wanted. What has changed exactly, that would now make the P5 see fit to add the entire AAC to it's exclusive club?

Any conference that wants in that party will have to crash it, like the Original Big East. It's not about being invited. It's about putting a good television product out there.
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(05-10-2015 12:53 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 10:46 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  In the eyes of the playoff, all G5 conferences are the same... but in the long term scheme of things they are not. I have and will continue to strongly believe that the end game is to break off 75-80 teams and form an upper level above FBS and right now the AAC is the 6th conference. This is why I want to attempt to lure away a couple MWC teams and further weaken them.

and yes, the AAC was WIDELY known to be undervalued. This has been said by several analyst and repeated by our commisioner, who just so happens to be a long time TV veteran. The simple fact is the value of our individual teams was worth more then the conference... meaning, nobody knew who was staying or going, so they werent going to spend money on it.

Now that it is settled and we are performing pretty well, I can see us getting a bump. I have never said the TV contract will be $10 million. What I have said is that I believe our total revenue will get closer to the $10-12 million range. I think tripling our TV contract to about $6-7 million is feasable. Add in NCAA credits and Playoff money and were now almost at $10 million. Then I think the AAC can make a case for us to get a larger share of the Playoff money because we are the 6th conference... and so far the only one that has a BCS/Access bowl win AND an NCAA championship (in 2 sports).

The ACC will make about $25 million in 2019 (they are on an elevator system that increases each year but isnt maxed out) and I dont think its insane to think the AAC will be around half of that and the Clear cut leader at #6... which will put us in a good position to be included in the break away.

as much as people hate ESPN, I think its best we sign whatever deal they send us... or else amazingly enough realignment will happen again (shocking) and this conference will be plucked apart.

If the P5 thought they needed you guys, they wouldn't have excluded the Big East from the big time in the first place. Instead, they chose to elevate only those Big East programs that they wanted. What has changed exactly, that would now make the P5 see fit to add the entire AAC to it's exclusive club?

Thats a valid point, but I tend to believe that at just 65 teams, the upper league would be a bit thin on content.
They do not see us as equals and when they do split away, I dont see them treating us as such either, so its not like I am expecting for them to really welcome us in to this exclusive club with open arms.

In truth, if you look at the ACC, its not like they are getting the same deals either. They have a MUCH lower marquee bowl lineup then the other P5 conferences, and unless FSU goes undefeated again, I doubt you will see them get the Playoff spot most years.

I actually expect as time goes on that the ACC will be considered the weakest of the P5 and after the Texas 4 go to the Pac12, then I think the newly developed conference of B12 leftovers and ACC/BYU will be about on par with them.... but probably paid a bit less.

You also have to remember that it wont really cost them much... the money isnt in the playoff. Its in the bowls and Tv contracts.

Right now you have roughly $250 million being split 5 ways. It doesnt break down to perfectly even per team since there is size desperity but if you look at it like that it will give you an idea of how little it will change.

Right now that $250 million is split 65 ways or $3.846 million per. If they add 11 teams, like I think they will youre looking at $3.289 million. In a world of $30 and $40 million income, that much less isnt significant at all.

Now when they do split off, they can expand the playoff to 8 teams and its been estimated that will increase the income by another $200-300 million.

Thats where I think its going. If the Texas 4 do leave, I think the new Big12 conference get about the same they have been getting. $15-20 million in TV money per team, which will suck compared to what the others are getting. More than likely the Big 12 bowls will reduce their payouts. If were lucky were in the middle $20 million in revenue, which will be half or less than what the Big 10, SEC and Pac16 would be making.... but not too terribly far away from where the ACC is.

Given, this is all guessing, but I and a few others think it makes sense.
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I know the next question will be why the Leftover B12 pieces, mixed with BYU and ACC parts would be worth $15-20 million.... because of limited top tier inventory. That conference will be apart of the break away, and even though now were not worth a ton, we will be in that elite level. Since there isnt 130 schools anymore then the bidding for that smaller elite pie will go up.
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(05-10-2015 03:49 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Adding BYU, Boise, AF, SDSU, Fresno, Colo St, etc. wouldn't make the AAC a power conference. It would however get us a better tv deal

The term "power conference" is a moving target... entirely subjective. You'll probably be able to add Iowa State, Baylor, etc, to that list before long. Anyone who judges success by that metric is playing a fools game. Every conference should strive to win National Championships. If you can do that, you're as "power" as you can get.
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(05-08-2015 08:06 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Well, maybe we can. The unrest has officially begun. The special deal they gave Boise will eventually create tension between certain members. The UNLV AD is not happy and she's going public. Eventually, there will be a meeting at an Airport. Maybe Aresco will call it.


The Mountain West Conference's TV contract for football "has failed miserably for many schools, particularly UNLV," according to Ed Graney of the LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL. In the first two years of the league’s deal with CBS and ESPN, Boise State "will have made a conference-high" $3.7M from the Mountain West's bonus system, which "pays schools a specific amount for appearing on certain channels." Nine other schools "will have made anywhere from" $300,000 to $2.4M, while UNLV "will have made zero." Had the bonus money "been evenly distributed for two years," UNLV would have received $1.2M. UNLV AD Tina Kunzer-Murphy said, "It’s horrible. Everyone wants a piece of the pie. We’re no different. I’m concerned. Others are getting millions of dollars in this bonus system and we get nothing? It’s obviously a red flag." She added, "We have to get it changed, because it's not acceptable.


http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...WC-TV.aspx

Attack, I agree the distribution is a problem for the MWC, but not sure you can say the "unrest has begun," and UNLV "is going public," b/c the article is from last December.

I'd say you have an issue anytime AD's are going public with something as basic as revenue distribution---especially when the contract is only in its second year and has about a decade left to run. As long as we approached them as a group and offered all-sports memberships, I suspect we could get 5-6 teams to jump. Deregulation of divisional play would need to happen first. Then, this group of AAC presidents would have to become very bold and aggressive (pretty darn unlikely based on what we have seen thus far).

I don't disagree with your idea. But when you said the unrest is starting, I thought you were referring to a current article, not one from December.

If there hasn't been anything else in the media since then, it's possible the unrest has actually subsided.
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(05-10-2015 03:08 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(05-10-2015 01:30 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Boise State has every right to the extra money. They built their brand on the field of battle and earned their pay. The UNLV AD should focus on improving her putrid football team instead of attacking the successful.

you have no clue how college athletics work if you think that

ill start off with the hypocrisy of that deal...unlv and sdsu have dramatically carried the MWC in getting ncaa basketball shares, tv prowess and carry the leagues perception. but yet split the revenue evenly

but to the main point....in college sports you come up together or you battle for the king of the scraps..ohio state and maybe 3or 4 other programs are honestly carrying the big 10 but yet ohio state and iowa get the same split. oregon and maybe 3 other teams carry the pac 12 yet oregon and wazzu get the same cut...florida st and clemson are the only currently nationally respectable team in the 14 team acc but yet all split evenly....there is a reason for that and a reason everyone not named the MWC does it like that...

uneven revenue sharing creates have and have nots: when winning teams keep getting more money to build on their success and bad teams loss more and dont get funds to improve, over time you'll see how quickly unfair that league will be and hard it is for certain teams to get better in respect to their league

to the gready folks who are like if my team is "have" i dont rreally care...you are also blind....when your team is in a fight for an access.ncaa tourney bid and realize half your conference is struggling to beat fcs teams because they are lacking funding for improved facilities, coaches and recruiting and your team team has horrendous RPI/SOS becuase of that you'll know why...another situation is that you lose a few mil today to day because you evenly shared burt could gain 10's of million in the future because of it. a better overall conference = better overall tv deals

this is why as a houston fan id take the AAC over the MWC any day.. the MWC has no upward mobility in 6-7 years their is absolutely no reason to believe theyll be that much better than they are now if at all (outside of pure luck)..and a huge potential to be way worse as Boise is single-handedly carrying their perception and them falling off would basically just kill them (and no dynasty last forever)
as is to most analyst top to bottom the AAC is the best G5 (though everyone consider boise the best team) and our upward mobility is crazy, most of our teams are seeing exposure like theyve never seen before , all are heavily investing in sports, facilites and paying for coaches. our increase in bball recruiting league wide has been crazy and vastly improved in football aswell especially for some of the lower teams. in 5-6 years we could be a completely different league as far as league strength and national audience, and unike the MWC we arent carried by 1 team. the MWC is everyone for themselves, in the AAC their is a concerted effort that we are all going to increase our level together and we are trying to be a better conference

I understand how college athletics works. I just think that some of those bigger teams deserve a little more if they are successful.

Boise State has done their fair share of helping MW basketball.
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RE: So You Think The AAC Can't Potentially Poach Mountain West Schools?
(05-10-2015 05:22 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
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(05-10-2015 01:30 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Boise State has every right to the extra money. They built their brand on the field of battle and earned their pay. The UNLV AD should focus on improving her putrid football team instead of attacking the successful.

you have no clue how college athletics work if you think that

ill start off with the hypocrisy of that deal...unlv and sdsu have dramatically carried the MWC in getting ncaa basketball shares, tv prowess and carry the leagues perception. but yet split the revenue evenly

but to the main point....in college sports you come up together or you battle for the king of the scraps..ohio state and maybe 3or 4 other programs are honestly carrying the big 10 but yet ohio state and iowa get the same split. oregon and maybe 3 other teams carry the pac 12 yet oregon and wazzu get the same cut...florida st and clemson are the only currently nationally respectable team in the 14 team acc but yet all split evenly....there is a reason for that and a reason everyone not named the MWC does it like that...

uneven revenue sharing creates have and have nots: when winning teams keep getting more money to build on their success and bad teams loss more and dont get funds to improve, over time you'll see how quickly unfair that league will be and hard it is for certain teams to get better in respect to their league

to the gready folks who are like if my team is "have" i dont rreally care...you are also blind....when your team is in a fight for an access.ncaa tourney bid and realize half your conference is struggling to beat fcs teams because they are lacking funding for improved facilities, coaches and recruiting and your team team has horrendous RPI/SOS becuase of that you'll know why...another situation is that you lose a few mil today to day because you evenly shared burt could gain 10's of million in the future because of it. a better overall conference = better overall tv deals

this is why as a houston fan id take the AAC over the MWC any day.. the MWC has no upward mobility in 6-7 years their is absolutely no reason to believe theyll be that much better than they are now if at all (outside of pure luck)..and a huge potential to be way worse as Boise is single-handedly carrying their perception and them falling off would basically just kill them (and no dynasty last forever)
as is to most analyst top to bottom the AAC is the best G5 (though everyone consider boise the best team) and our upward mobility is crazy, most of our teams are seeing exposure like theyve never seen before , all are heavily investing in sports, facilites and paying for coaches. our increase in bball recruiting league wide has been crazy and vastly improved in football aswell especially for some of the lower teams. in 5-6 years we could be a completely different league as far as league strength and national audience, and unike the MWC we arent carried by 1 team. the MWC is everyone for themselves, in the AAC their is a concerted effort that we are all going to increase our level together and we are trying to be a better conference

I understand how college athletics works. I just think that some of those bigger teams deserve a little more if they are successful.

Boise State has done their fair share of helping MW basketball.

HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine, on a completely different topic........I continue to pray that all is well with you, your family, and specifically your brother.
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RE: So You Think The AAC Can't Potentially Poach Mountain West Schools?
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(05-08-2015 08:06 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Well, maybe we can. The unrest has officially begun. The special deal they gave Boise will eventually create tension between certain members. The UNLV AD is not happy and she's going public. Eventually, there will be a meeting at an Airport. Maybe Aresco will call it.


The Mountain West Conference's TV contract for football "has failed miserably for many schools, particularly UNLV," according to Ed Graney of the LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL. In the first two years of the league’s deal with CBS and ESPN, Boise State "will have made a conference-high" $3.7M from the Mountain West's bonus system, which "pays schools a specific amount for appearing on certain channels." Nine other schools "will have made anywhere from" $300,000 to $2.4M, while UNLV "will have made zero." Had the bonus money "been evenly distributed for two years," UNLV would have received $1.2M. UNLV AD Tina Kunzer-Murphy said, "It’s horrible. Everyone wants a piece of the pie. We’re no different. I’m concerned. Others are getting millions of dollars in this bonus system and we get nothing? It’s obviously a red flag." She added, "We have to get it changed, because it's not acceptable.


http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...WC-TV.aspx

Attack, I agree the distribution is a problem for the MWC, but not sure you can say the "unrest has begun," and UNLV "is going public," b/c the article is from last December.

I'd say you have an issue anytime AD's are going public with something as basic as revenue distribution---especially when the contract is only in its second year and has about a decade left to run. As long as we approached them as a group and offered all-sports memberships, I suspect we could get 5-6 teams to jump. Deregulation of divisional play would need to happen first. Then, this group of AAC presidents would have to become very bold and aggressive (pretty darn unlikely based on what we have seen thus far).

I don't disagree with your idea. But when you said the unrest is starting, I thought you were referring to a current article, not one from December.

If there hasn't been anything else in the media since then, it's possible the unrest has actually subsided.

Or it could just mean there hasn't been anymore airing of dirty laundry in the public media. No way to tell. Frankly, despite it being from December, the article was news to me. I'd never seen it before.
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RE: So You Think The AAC Can't Potentially Poach Mountain West Schools?
(05-08-2015 09:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  boise= texas lite

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