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RE: The good and bad of divisions
(05-03-2015 09:17 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Without some outside-the-box ideas like CajunExpress has suggested, I don't see TV deals getting much better for any of us below the P5's. You yourself have lectured us on what's coming and while I absolutely hate agreeing with you on anything, I'm afraid you're right.

Yeah, it boils down to nothing more than a "tallest midget" contest for us these days. I guess that's all it's really ever been. Even in Boise's best year, they were never in contention for a shot at the national title game.
05-04-2015 05:20 AM
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One of the reasons for staying in FCS was to "play for National Championships". The downside of that is the masses don't care about college football outside the P5 because ESPN doesn't tell them it matters.

The pro about FBS is increased revenue potential for the school and growth of donors, fans, ticket sales, and national recognition. We even get the opportunity to compete against P5's more frequently and in big bowls.

We don't deserve the same portion of revenue as the P5's because we're not the one's generating the revenue. Wake and Vanderbilt aren't generating it either, but that's because they limited their own growth in favor of more selective enrollment. There share is earned by being investors at the beginning.
05-04-2015 07:01 AM
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(05-04-2015 07:01 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  We don't deserve the same portion of revenue as the P5's because we're not the one's generating the revenue. Wake and Vanderbilt aren't generating it either, but that's because they limited their own growth in favor of more selective enrollment. There share is earned by being investors at the beginning.

You sound like a battered woman making excuses to the police for why your husband beat you again. "He didn't mean it, it was my fault, I made him angry. You should see how sweet he is to me most of the time".
05-04-2015 03:29 PM
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(05-04-2015 03:29 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(05-04-2015 07:01 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  We don't deserve the same portion of revenue as the P5's because we're not the one's generating the revenue. Wake and Vanderbilt aren't generating it either, but that's because they limited their own growth in favor of more selective enrollment. There share is earned by being investors at the beginning.

You sound like a battered woman making excuses to the police for why your husband beat you again. "He didn't mean it, it was my fault, I made him angry. You should see how sweet he is to me most of the time".

The poster makes a reasonable post and expresses his opinions, quite well I might add, but you've got to insult him.

Some people have differing opinions on this issue. Can you accept that? Why do you go out of your way to be an *******?
05-04-2015 03:35 PM
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You are calling people ******* and you have the word anus in your pic?
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(05-04-2015 03:40 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  You are calling people ******* and you have the word anus in your pic?

Yes, I know an ******* when I see one.
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I didn't know drawing a comparison to the not uncommon practice of abuse victims making excuses for their abusers and how it relates to a mentality that justifies and excuses abuse in the context of the current topic would be seen as offensive. I think its a rather apt comparison.
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(05-04-2015 04:36 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  I didn't know drawing a comparison to the not uncommon practice of abuse victims making excuses for their abusers and how it relates to a mentality that justifies and excuses abuse in the context of the current topic would be seen as offensive. I think its a rather apt comparison.

I think the problem here is that you come across on this topic as: I'm right, and you guys don't know what you're talking about, are brainwashed, kool-aid drinkers, Stockholm syndrome victims, etc etc etc.

It's a condencending attitude about a subject that, as one poster related, is far more complex than a simple........they get 70% of the revenues while we get only 27% and that's just not fair.
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(05-04-2015 03:54 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(05-04-2015 03:40 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  You are calling people ******* and you have the word anus in your pic?

Yes, I know an ******* when I see one.

I've often wondered what Hudspeth would think of that avatar you use. I have a feeling he might not think much of it. At the very least, it could certainly be construed in more ways than one.
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(05-04-2015 05:38 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-04-2015 03:54 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(05-04-2015 03:40 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  You are calling people ******* and you have the word anus in your pic?

Yes, I know an ******* when I see one.

I've often wondered what Hudspeth would think of that avatar you use. I have a feeling he might not think much of it. At the very least, it could certainly be construed in more ways than one.

I've noticed that you're very thoughtful, touchy-feely kinda guy. I think that's precious.
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(05-04-2015 05:25 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(05-04-2015 04:36 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  I didn't know drawing a comparison to the not uncommon practice of abuse victims making excuses for their abusers and how it relates to a mentality that justifies and excuses abuse in the context of the current topic would be seen as offensive. I think its a rather apt comparison.

I think the problem here is that you come across on this topic as: I'm right, and you guys don't know what you're talking about, are brainwashed, kool-aid drinkers, Stockholm syndrome victims, etc etc etc.

It's a condencending attitude about a subject that, as one poster related, is far more complex than a simple........they get 70% of the revenues while we get only 27% and that's just not fair.

sorry, not my intention. was simply challenging the very common perspective of "let's try to make the best of a bad situation" instead of looking at "let's stand up against the bad situation".
05-04-2015 07:31 PM
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(05-04-2015 07:31 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(05-04-2015 05:25 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(05-04-2015 04:36 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  I didn't know drawing a comparison to the not uncommon practice of abuse victims making excuses for their abusers and how it relates to a mentality that justifies and excuses abuse in the context of the current topic would be seen as offensive. I think its a rather apt comparison.

I think the problem here is that you come across on this topic as: I'm right, and you guys don't know what you're talking about, are brainwashed, kool-aid drinkers, Stockholm syndrome victims, etc etc etc.

It's a condencending attitude about a subject that, as one poster related, is far more complex than a simple........they get 70% of the revenues while we get only 27% and that's just not fair.

sorry, not my intention. was simply challenging the very common perspective of "let's try to make the best of a bad situation" instead of looking at "let's stand up against the bad situation".

Okay, fair enough. But instead of making your case to a bunch of dinging swicks here on a fan forum, perhaps you should try a letter writing campaign to TPTB to get the ball rolling?

Send your concerns to a number of congressmen in your area. You know them, they're probably all graduates of the P5 law school in the state. Alternately, write your state legislators. Of course, the majority of them likewise will be alumni of a P5.

You can also send letters to the TV producers whose salaries are based on the quality of programming they air. Tell them to ignore the miniscule audiences of G5 football games and instead be trend setters and air Ohio versus Central Michigan in the time slot that was originally scheduled for Ohio State versus Michigan.

Do likewise with the sponors. Explain to them that their advertising dollars are just as well spent on a 30 second commercial seen by 350,000 sets as one seen by 6 million. I'm sure they'll understand.

Get going man. Time's a wasting. Good luck!!!!
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(05-01-2015 12:36 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(05-01-2015 11:05 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  side note on Wake Forrest-

between 1888-1980 WF had 27 coaches and only one of them lasted more than 4 years. DC Pearhead Walker ('37-'50) and Jim Grobe ('01-'13) are the winningest coaches in program history with 77 wins each. The guy in 3rd place has 29 wins.

Wake Forrest is 32-66-2 against UNC but considers them to be a rival. smh, that's one sorry program. A sorry program that gets a slice of the revenue pie that's bigger than any G5 conference's total share for doing nothing but having the dumb luck of joining the ACC way back in 1953. what a country.

Why are you going to hate on Wake? They were a founding member of the ACC. Yes, their program is not strong, but neither are Duke, Vandy, Northwestern, etc. They are the smallest school in the FBS. Considering their restrictions, I think they overachieve.

well, their website says 7500 or so..clearly not the smallest in fbs..google up rice or tulsa for example.
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