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RE: 2015 Orlando Sentinel CFB Countdown #121
(04-30-2015 09:20 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  Schools in large urban areas will always have to work harder to succeed in football in my opinion. Unlike basketball and baseball, football relies more on HS recruits than JC and FBS transfers. Parents are more involved in the process of high school recruiting. I would prefer that my kids go to college in a more traditional college town. Big cities are great but not a preferred destination for a lot of kids stepping out on their own for the first time at 17 or 18. It can be overcome with the right approach, the right coach and a little luck but it has always seemed to me that schools like Ga St., UNT, FIU, etc. struggle when recruiting head to head against more traditional campuses.

Just my two cents.

To add my $0.02, in the very large urban areas (think Los Angeles, Dallas, Chicago) there is a deep enough pool of 'local' talent, there isn't too much backlash relating to a kid attending an in-city school. Atlanta is much more of a suburban-oriented city; the majority of the high schools are out in the outlying counties where traditionally students have gone to the state flagship and directional universities, only one of which is actually in Atlanta. I think in order for GSU to become consistently successful they are going to need to extend their recruiting reach well outside the perimeter as well as outside the state line. And I'm not going to bash this thread and say winning helps because we know it does. You just have to extend your reach and brand into unfamiliar places in order to grow.
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(04-29-2015 11:10 PM)Appdoggy Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 06:11 PM)RoyK Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 05:32 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  Georgia state is a puzzling team-Atlanta is a great location and they have a large enrollment size with solid funding, yet they seem to be a program still struggling to find any footing.

I don't think the F_U schools struggled as much as GSU has

What exactly is puzzling. Due to previous coach (can't build a roster, had a few gems but a lot of misses )incompetent AD ( this broad literally makes Hilary Clinton look like a great presidential canned are) lack of winning and I missing something. You get the picture. The truth is we were decent in some areas but bad in others (talking bout you defense and running game , lack of urgency or execution in the red zone).

Haha I like how you just assume that everyone will agree that *Hillary Clinton is a bad presidential *candidate...

03-banghead so you think she is a good candidate. And I m not assuming anything buddy.
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Enough politics. Let's stay on subject... now where were we??? Oh yes, we were looking down on GaSt.
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(04-29-2015 07:13 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Georgia State fans: Someone told me that the first couple of years you couldn't fill out your roster and had to take a bunch of walk-ons. Is that legit, or was that blown out of proportion?

We went from not having a football to FCS to FBS from 2010 to 2014. There is a legal transition period. This will be the first year we have been at 85 scholarships.
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(04-29-2015 05:32 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  Georgia state is a puzzling team-Atlanta is a great location and they have a large enrollment size with solid funding, yet they seem to be a program still struggling to find any footing.

I don't think the F_U schools struggled as much as GSU has

Last year was our 5th season of football. FIU was 0-12 in the SBC in year 5. FAU was 2-9.

But for the advantages you mentioned its all academic at this point. Charlie Cobb is much on excuses and Miles is 1-23 and most fans here are very much aware of what Bill Clark did at UAB and what Justin Fuente has done at Memphis. I cant see Miles surviving if he doesn't get 6 wins. It is year three and he just enrolled 17 kids in January. Seventeen. So if he is still losing this year either you dont have the players (cant recruit) or cant get the players to execute (cant coach). Either way, given the enormity of the Ted project time's up.
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What is happening in the TED project. Keeping the stadium, getting rid of it, converting it?
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Going out for bid, I think. I'm sure panama can verify.
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(04-30-2015 04:00 PM)RoyK Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 11:10 PM)Appdoggy Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 06:11 PM)RoyK Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 05:32 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  Georgia state is a puzzling team-Atlanta is a great location and they have a large enrollment size with solid funding, yet they seem to be a program still struggling to find any footing.

I don't think the F_U schools struggled as much as GSU has

What exactly is puzzling. Due to previous coach (can't build a roster, had a few gems but a lot of misses )incompetent AD ( this broad literally makes Hilary Clinton look like a great presidential canned are) lack of winning and I missing something. You get the picture. The truth is we were decent in some areas but bad in others (talking bout you defense and running game , lack of urgency or execution in the red zone).

Haha I .y how you just assume that everyone will agree that *Hillary Clinton is a bad presidential *candidate...

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03-banghead so you think she is a good candidate. And I m not assuming anything buddy.
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(04-30-2015 04:00 PM)RoyK Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 11:10 PM)Appdoggy Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 06:11 PM)RoyK Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 05:32 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  Georgia state is a puzzling team-Atlanta is a great location and they have a large enrollment size with solid funding, yet they seem to be a program still struggling to find any footing.

I don't think the F_U schools struggled as much as GSU has

What exactly is puzzling. Due to previous coach (can't build a roster, had a few gems but a lot of misses )incompetent AD ( this broad literally makes Hilary Clinton look like a great presidential canned are) lack of winning and I missing something. You get the picture. The truth is we were decent in some areas but bad in others (talking bout you defense and running game , lack of urgency or execution in the red zone).

Haha I .y how you just assume that everyone will agree that *Hillary Clinton is a bad presidential *candidate...

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03-banghead so you think she is a good candidate. And I m not assuming anything buddy.
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(04-30-2015 04:00 PM)RoyK Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 11:10 PM)Appdoggy Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 06:11 PM)RoyK Wrote:  
(04-29-2015 05:32 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  Georgia state is a puzzling team-Atlanta is a great location and they have a large enrollment size with solid funding, yet they seem to be a program still struggling to find any footing.

I don't think the F_U schools struggled as much as GSU has

What exactly is puzzling. Due to previous coach (can't build a roster, had a few gems but a lot of misses )incompetent AD ( this broad literally makes Hilary Clinton look like a great presidential canned are) lack of winning and I missing something. You get the picture. The truth is we were decent in some areas but bad in others (talking bout you defense and running game , lack of urgency or execution in the red zone).

Haha I .y how you just assume that everyone will agree that *Hillary Clinton is a bad presidential *candidate...

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03-banghead so you think she is a good candidate. And I m not assuming anything buddy.
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(05-01-2015 11:42 AM)panama Wrote:  But for the advantages you mentioned its all academic at this point. Charlie Cobb is much on excuses and Miles is 1-23 and most fans here are very much aware of what Bill Clark did at UAB and what Justin Fuente has done at Memphis. I cant see Miles surviving if he doesn't get 6 wins. It is year three and he just enrolled 17 kids in January. Seventeen. So if he is still losing this year either you dont have the players (cant recruit) or cant get the players to execute (cant coach). Either way, given the enormity of the Ted project time's up.

Is it asking too much to go for a 5 win increase in one year? I mean, I grant you, he's been there 3 years, his first recruiting class should be sophomore red shirts (at least), so there should be some improvement...

But it seems like asking for 6 wins is not realistic.
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(05-01-2015 11:58 AM)SBEagle Wrote:  Going out for bid, I think. I'm sure panama can verify.

No where near close to that. Currently the Mayor is stating that the City would control the property without input from Fulton County or the State. I'm sure there will be at least one lawsuit before the direction of the property is determined (which is not uncommon).
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(05-01-2015 12:20 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(05-01-2015 11:42 AM)panama Wrote:  But for the advantages you mentioned its all academic at this point. Charlie Cobb is much on excuses and Miles is 1-23 and most fans here are very much aware of what Bill Clark did at UAB and what Justin Fuente has done at Memphis. I cant see Miles surviving if he doesn't get 6 wins. It is year three and he just enrolled 17 kids in January. Seventeen. So if he is still losing this year either you dont have the players (cant recruit) or cant get the players to execute (cant coach). Either way, given the enormity of the Ted project time's up.

Is it asking too much to go for a 5 win increase in one year? I mean, I grant you, he's been there 3 years, his first recruiting class should be sophomore red shirts (at least), so there should be some improvement...

But it seems like asking for 6 wins is not realistic.

At the same time, you can't blame all of the recruiting issues on Miles. State's football facilities are crap. They've got a chicken/egg thing going on.
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(05-01-2015 11:49 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  What is happening in the TED project. Keeping the stadium, getting rid of it, converting it?




(05-01-2015 11:58 AM)SBEagle Wrote:  Going out for bid, I think. I'm sure panama can verify.
Conversion is the plan. Waiting on Braves to announce exit date before process van move forward.
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(05-01-2015 12:20 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  
(05-01-2015 11:42 AM)panama Wrote:  But for the advantages you mentioned its all academic at this point. Charlie Cobb is much on excuses and Miles is 1-23 and most fans here are very much aware of what Bill Clark did at UAB and what Justin Fuente has done at Memphis. I cant see Miles surviving if he doesn't get 6 wins. It is year three and he just enrolled 17 kids in January. Seventeen. So if he is still losing this year either you dont have the players (cant recruit) or cant get the players to execute (cant coach). Either way, given the enormity of the Ted project time's up.

Is it asking too much to go for a 5 win increase in one year? I mean, I grant you, he's been there 3 years, his first recruiting class should be sophomore red shirts (at least), so there should be some improvement...

But it seems like asking for 6 wins is not realistic.
A lot of kids started as Freshmen and are Juniors. And as I said enrolled 17 mid year. That means 99% of players who will play were on campus nearly 9 months before next season. Not sure what else is needed.
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(05-01-2015 12:27 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
(05-01-2015 11:58 AM)SBEagle Wrote:  Going out for bid, I think. I'm sure panama can verify.

No where near close to that. Currently the Mayor is stating that the City would control the property without input from Fulton County or the State. I'm sure there will be at least one lawsuit before the direction of the property is determined (which is not uncommon).

Posturing. City has 6 votes. County has 3. My math says county loses every time on that. Its pretty hilarious that the Fulton County Commissioner thinks that people in Sandy Springs and Alpharretta should have inpuy to what happens in Summerhill and Peoplestown after 50 years of not caring what happens in Peoplestown and Summerhill.
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So are they all in different counties? Do the counties or county have a financial interest or only the city? No doubt if you have a financial obligation you have a voice, and minority rights.

Confess I am asking questions without enough knowledge to know the right questions to ask, but am curious.
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(05-01-2015 12:28 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  At the same time, you can't blame all of the recruiting issues on Miles. State's football facilities are crap. They've got a chicken/egg thing going on.

You know, in years past, we had similar conversations about Texas State. I do blame the coach. He knew what he was getting into when he signed up. If he can't be successful, he shouldn't be taking the job.

And with regards to Georgia State, success (at their stage, I would say) is not the same as success at say... Georgia Southern. It will be in the future, but right now, to me, success for Georgia State is 4 wins. Something to show the fans that the way things have been in the past few years is NOT the way it will be in the future.
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I agree, but in my opinion GaState needs to look at other athletic departments to see what they are doing they pull bits and pieces from them.
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(05-02-2015 11:03 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:  So are they all in different counties? Do the counties or county have a financial interest or only the city? No doubt if you have a financial obligation you have a voice, and minority rights.

Confess I am asking questions without enough knowledge to know the right questions to ask, but am curious.

Fulton County is about 75 miles from north to south. Atlanta is right in the middle. It used to be multiple counties, but that is a whole other conversation.

That is why we think it is laughable when the county wants to have more say. People from cities 15 miles away from downtown want some sort of say on something or think they should have a majority say on.

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