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RE: Michigan hosting football camp in Florida... on USF campus???
(04-24-2015 07:38 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  
(04-23-2015 01:25 PM)TyBull Wrote:  Jim Harbaugh & Willie Taggart are best friends

Taggart is looking for landing spot (ingratiating himself to Harbaugh), just in case he gets canned. His putting in personal interest above the University (does not make sense to bring in recruiting competitor and host them), he works for, which would be cause enough for him to be canned, IMO.

ingratiating.... Taggart was the best man at Harbaughs wedding. He doesnt need to do anything to be in tight with them.

Id argue this thread but Cubanbull nailed it. USF isnt gonna land the 5 star recruits that come to this, but the 3 and 4 star tweeners that wouldnt have thought about USF before will come and see the brand new facilties and meet Taggart. Lets face it, our program hasnt had anything on field to brag about for a long time and yet he landed the top AAC recruiting class two years in a row. Thats all about Taggarts personality. Getting the kids in front of him by using Michigan is a smart idea.
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RE: Michigan hosting football camp in Florida... on USF campus???
They spoke about this exclusively today on college football daily on ESPN. The good news is this will be replayed so catch it if you can. They call it for what it is, a recruiting loophole. You're kidding yourself if you believe this is an effort by WT to get kids. Why can't usf just hold their own camp? Why do they need to piggyback off of Harbaugh? I just don't understand how the usf fans are pissed about this. Remember those kids aren't there for usf or even their facilities, they're there for the purpose of being evaluated by Michigan.
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(04-23-2015 08:12 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  
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(04-23-2015 02:02 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  This is just one way the P5 will utilize all the extra money they get to further widen the gap. They can pay non P5 schools to allow them to host camps on the non P5 school campus/stadium.

Who said anything about paying anyone?

Nobody - but you think USF is letting Michigan use their facilities for free?

I think there you're wrong. I think the Michigan coaches are guests. And I think so because we already did this last year.
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(04-24-2015 07:38 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  
(04-23-2015 01:25 PM)TyBull Wrote:  Jim Harbaugh & Willie Taggart are best friends

Taggart is looking for landing spot (ingratiating himself to Harbaugh), just in case he gets canned. His putting in personal interest above the University (does not make sense to bring in recruiting competitor and host them), he works for, which would be cause enough for him to be canned, IMO.

LOL! Do you also write Mexican novelas?
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(04-24-2015 11:48 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  They spoke about this exclusively today on college football daily on ESPN. The good news is this will be replayed so catch it if you can. They call it for what it is, a recruiting loophole. You're kidding yourself if you believe this is an effort by WT to get kids. Why can't usf just hold their own camp? Why do they need to piggyback off of Harbaugh? I just don't understand how the usf fans are pissed about this. Remember those kids aren't there for usf or even their facilities, they're there for the purpose of being evaluated by Michigan.
They are conducting their own camp. Michigan coaches are guests. That is the loophole. Much ado about nothing. The only ones who should be upset are Florida and Florida State.
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RE: Michigan hosting football camp in Florida... on USF campus???
(04-25-2015 06:16 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 11:48 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  They spoke about this exclusively today on college football daily on ESPN. The good news is this will be replayed so catch it if you can. They call it for what it is, a recruiting loophole. You're kidding yourself if you believe this is an effort by WT to get kids. Why can't usf just hold their own camp? Why do they need to piggyback off of Harbaugh? I just don't understand how the usf fans are pissed about this. Remember those kids aren't there for usf or even their facilities, they're there for the purpose of being evaluated by Michigan.
They are conducting their own camp. Michigan coaches are guests. That is the loophole. Much ado about nothing. The only ones who should be upset are Florida and Florida State.

True...but every team in the SEC, ACC and much of the Big Ten also recruits in FLA so Michigan (Penn State has "guest" camps in NJ, Georgia, FLA too) has a ton of competition for these guys...and spending a day in a camp might give Big Blue an inside edge...hence why they do it.

Not sure about the ACC rule is..but the SEC has a rule their coaches can't not attend "guest camps"....hence why the SEC Coaches in particular hate that Penn State and Michigan are able to attend camps in their backyard...while SEC Coaches can't do that. (Imagine is Saban was able to attend/host a camp in talent rich Texas, Ohio, California, Pennsylvania, etc...it would be a rock show).

USF's advantage obviously is that more players will probably show up for their camp just because Harbaugh and UM Coaches will be there...vs if USF held their normal camp like everyone else.
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(04-25-2015 06:43 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:16 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 11:48 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  They spoke about this exclusively today on college football daily on ESPN. The good news is this will be replayed so catch it if you can. They call it for what it is, a recruiting loophole. You're kidding yourself if you believe this is an effort by WT to get kids. Why can't usf just hold their own camp? Why do they need to piggyback off of Harbaugh? I just don't understand how the usf fans are pissed about this. Remember those kids aren't there for usf or even their facilities, they're there for the purpose of being evaluated by Michigan.
They are conducting their own camp. Michigan coaches are guests. That is the loophole. Much ado about nothing. The only ones who should be upset are Florida and Florida State.

True...but every team in the SEC, ACC and much of the Big Ten also recruits in FLA so Michigan (Penn State has "guest" camps in NJ, Georgia, FLA too) has a ton of competition for these guys...and spending a day in a camp might give Big Blue an inside edge...hence why they do it.

Not sure about the ACC rule is..but the SEC has a rule their coaches can't not attend "guest camps"....hence why the SEC Coaches in particular hate that Penn State and Michigan are able to attend camps in their backyard...while SEC Coaches can't do that. (Imagine is Saban was able to attend/host a camp in talent rich Texas, Ohio, California, Pennsylvania, etc...it would be a rock show).

USF's advantage obviously is that more players will probably show up for their camp just because Harbaugh and UM Coaches will be there...vs if USF held their normal camp like everyone else.

and the other upside is that you know Harbaugh is going to help out his best friend by telling some of the recruits (that he doesnt want) that they should go play for Taggart.

Its a very smart move by Taggart to immediately tap into Harbaughs popularity. They send out invites to a ton of players and say that they can come to USF and meet with the Michigan coaching staff and then Harbaugh gets to take his pick of the litter, and then give a little push to those that Taggart wants.
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RE: Michigan hosting football camp in Florida... on USF campus???
As.i said, our experience last year was that we got about 3 times as many kids to attend as would have attended normally and a lot of kids who might not have attended otherwise. We signed 6 kids from that camp. Penn State signed zero. We also got our name out in local high schools by way of a lot of highly rated kids who attended and then went back to school and were able to say "Oh yeah I have been to GSU and seen their facilities" That is why we are doing camps with Penn State and Nebraska this year. People are making a bigger deal about this than necessary.
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(04-25-2015 07:36 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:43 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:16 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 11:48 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  They spoke about this exclusively today on college football daily on ESPN. The good news is this will be replayed so catch it if you can. They call it for what it is, a recruiting loophole. You're kidding yourself if you believe this is an effort by WT to get kids. Why can't usf just hold their own camp? Why do they need to piggyback off of Harbaugh? I just don't understand how the usf fans are pissed about this. Remember those kids aren't there for usf or even their facilities, they're there for the purpose of being evaluated by Michigan.
They are conducting their own camp. Michigan coaches are guests. That is the loophole. Much ado about nothing. The only ones who should be upset are Florida and Florida State.

True...but every team in the SEC, ACC and much of the Big Ten also recruits in FLA so Michigan (Penn State has "guest" camps in NJ, Georgia, FLA too) has a ton of competition for these guys...and spending a day in a camp might give Big Blue an inside edge...hence why they do it.

Not sure about the ACC rule is..but the SEC has a rule their coaches can't not attend "guest camps"....hence why the SEC Coaches in particular hate that Penn State and Michigan are able to attend camps in their backyard...while SEC Coaches can't do that. (Imagine is Saban was able to attend/host a camp in talent rich Texas, Ohio, California, Pennsylvania, etc...it would be a rock show).

USF's advantage obviously is that more players will probably show up for their camp just because Harbaugh and UM Coaches will be there...vs if USF held their normal camp like everyone else.

and the other upside is that you know Harbaugh is going to help out his best friend by telling some of the recruits (that he doesnt want) that they should go play for Taggart.

Its a very smart move by Taggart to immediately tap into Harbaughs popularity. They send out invites to a ton of players and say that they can come to USF and meet with the Michigan coaching staff and then Harbaugh gets to take his pick of the litter, and then give a little push to those that Taggart wants.

Tags has had plenty of recruits..good ones. He just can't coach.
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(04-25-2015 08:32 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 07:36 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:43 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:16 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 11:48 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  They spoke about this exclusively today on college football daily on ESPN. The good news is this will be replayed so catch it if you can. They call it for what it is, a recruiting loophole. You're kidding yourself if you believe this is an effort by WT to get kids. Why can't usf just hold their own camp? Why do they need to piggyback off of Harbaugh? I just don't understand how the usf fans are pissed about this. Remember those kids aren't there for usf or even their facilities, they're there for the purpose of being evaluated by Michigan.
They are conducting their own camp. Michigan coaches are guests. That is the loophole. Much ado about nothing. The only ones who should be upset are Florida and Florida State.

True...but every team in the SEC, ACC and much of the Big Ten also recruits in FLA so Michigan (Penn State has "guest" camps in NJ, Georgia, FLA too) has a ton of competition for these guys...and spending a day in a camp might give Big Blue an inside edge...hence why they do it.

Not sure about the ACC rule is..but the SEC has a rule their coaches can't not attend "guest camps"....hence why the SEC Coaches in particular hate that Penn State and Michigan are able to attend camps in their backyard...while SEC Coaches can't do that. (Imagine is Saban was able to attend/host a camp in talent rich Texas, Ohio, California, Pennsylvania, etc...it would be a rock show).

USF's advantage obviously is that more players will probably show up for their camp just because Harbaugh and UM Coaches will be there...vs if USF held their normal camp like everyone else.

and the other upside is that you know Harbaugh is going to help out his best friend by telling some of the recruits (that he doesnt want) that they should go play for Taggart.

Its a very smart move by Taggart to immediately tap into Harbaughs popularity. They send out invites to a ton of players and say that they can come to USF and meet with the Michigan coaching staff and then Harbaugh gets to take his pick of the litter, and then give a little push to those that Taggart wants.

Tags has had plenty of recruits..good ones. He just can't coach.

I tend to disagree but we all have our opinions. Taggart is younger and has made some mistakes but this team was a trainwreck and is taking time to fix. Unfortunately he came in with the mindset that his Stanford style would work everywhere. We didnt have the personnel and it failed. Hes fixing that now (though I think it will take a couple years before it really clicks. Just hoping he hits 6 wins so he can keep coaching)

I am rooting for him. You havent met a nicer, more likeable and passionate guy. Hes just a fantastic person and I want him to get the chance to succeed.
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(04-25-2015 08:08 AM)panama Wrote:  As.i said, our experience last year was that we got about 3 times as many kids to attend as would have attended normally and a lot of kids who might not have attended otherwise. We signed 6 kids from that camp. Penn State signed zero. We also got our name out in local high schools by way of a lot of highly rated kids who attended and then went back to school and were able to say "Oh yeah I have been to GSU and seen their facilities" That is why we are doing camps with Penn State and Nebraska this year. People are making a bigger deal about this than necessary.

http://recruiting.blog.ajc.com/2015/04/2...p-in-june/
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(04-25-2015 08:58 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 08:32 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 07:36 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:43 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:16 AM)panama Wrote:  They are conducting their own camp. Michigan coaches are guests. That is the loophole. Much ado about nothing. The only ones who should be upset are Florida and Florida State.

True...but every team in the SEC, ACC and much of the Big Ten also recruits in FLA so Michigan (Penn State has "guest" camps in NJ, Georgia, FLA too) has a ton of competition for these guys...and spending a day in a camp might give Big Blue an inside edge...hence why they do it.

Not sure about the ACC rule is..but the SEC has a rule their coaches can't not attend "guest camps"....hence why the SEC Coaches in particular hate that Penn State and Michigan are able to attend camps in their backyard...while SEC Coaches can't do that. (Imagine is Saban was able to attend/host a camp in talent rich Texas, Ohio, California, Pennsylvania, etc...it would be a rock show).

USF's advantage obviously is that more players will probably show up for their camp just because Harbaugh and UM Coaches will be there...vs if USF held their normal camp like everyone else.

and the other upside is that you know Harbaugh is going to help out his best friend by telling some of the recruits (that he doesnt want) that they should go play for Taggart.

Its a very smart move by Taggart to immediately tap into Harbaughs popularity. They send out invites to a ton of players and say that they can come to USF and meet with the Michigan coaching staff and then Harbaugh gets to take his pick of the litter, and then give a little push to those that Taggart wants.

Tags has had plenty of recruits..good ones. He just can't coach.

I tend to disagree but we all have our opinions. Taggart is younger and has made some mistakes but this team was a trainwreck and is taking time to fix. Unfortunately he came in with the mindset that his Stanford style would work everywhere. We didnt have the personnel and it failed. Hes fixing that now (though I think it will take a couple years before it really clicks. Just hoping he hits 6 wins so he can keep coaching)

I am rooting for him. You havent met a nicer, more likeable and passionate guy. Hes just a fantastic person and I want him to get the chance to succeed.

Agree. The problem with Tags was that the offense was horrific even before he got there. The only thing that kept our team even remotely in a 5 win was BJ Daniels once he got hurt it all collapsed in Skips last year and nothing was left in the team offensively to change that in his first year.
Second year was a bit better due to getting in Mack and others some semblance of a running game. But WRs,OL and QBs were still way below avg and defense took a step back
So now we start year three. Offensively we have better RBs, the OLine we shall see he has better talent but less experience,WRs there is better talent than we have had in past 5 years but still young. QB will be a big key and it will depend on how much better Flowers is in this new system. Defensively this will be a much better team.
So overall I think he will be in the 5-7 win total. If the OLine and QB improve from last year we could surprise
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I am super concerend considering we didnt Reilly into this class and he has to sit a year. We needed him on the line and then we lost another linemen. Were going to be REALLY thin on the offensive line, which is exactly what happened to us in 2007 when we hit #2 in the nation.... our Oline went down and so did the entire team.

I like Flowers but the kid is RAW. He really needs another year on the bench but that isnt an option considering he is our best Dual threat QB. Only way I like this team above .500 is if we get a transfer QB in who can help run this.... and somehow we pull a miracle and stay healthy.

Sad part is, none of it is Taggarts fault. He recruited some good QBs on paper but they didnt perform and offensive lines take years to get up to speed. I do think however that our new DC is going to make us back into the power we used to be on that side of the ball. USF used to be known for our defense... I want that again.
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(04-25-2015 08:58 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 08:32 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 07:36 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:43 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:16 AM)panama Wrote:  They are conducting their own camp. Michigan coaches are guests. That is the loophole. Much ado about nothing. The only ones who should be upset are Florida and Florida State.

True...but every team in the SEC, ACC and much of the Big Ten also recruits in FLA so Michigan (Penn State has "guest" camps in NJ, Georgia, FLA too) has a ton of competition for these guys...and spending a day in a camp might give Big Blue an inside edge...hence why they do it.

Not sure about the ACC rule is..but the SEC has a rule their coaches can't not attend "guest camps"....hence why the SEC Coaches in particular hate that Penn State and Michigan are able to attend camps in their backyard...while SEC Coaches can't do that. (Imagine is Saban was able to attend/host a camp in talent rich Texas, Ohio, California, Pennsylvania, etc...it would be a rock show).

USF's advantage obviously is that more players will probably show up for their camp just because Harbaugh and UM Coaches will be there...vs if USF held their normal camp like everyone else.

and the other upside is that you know Harbaugh is going to help out his best friend by telling some of the recruits (that he doesnt want) that they should go play for Taggart.

Its a very smart move by Taggart to immediately tap into Harbaughs popularity. They send out invites to a ton of players and say that they can come to USF and meet with the Michigan coaching staff and then Harbaugh gets to take his pick of the litter, and then give a little push to those that Taggart wants.

Tags has had plenty of recruits..good ones. He just can't coach.

I tend to disagree but we all have our opinions. Taggart is younger and has made some mistakes but this team was a trainwreck and is taking time to fix. Unfortunately he came in with the mindset that his Stanford style would work everywhere. We didnt have the personnel and it failed. Hes fixing that now (though I think it will take a couple years before it really clicks. Just hoping he hits 6 wins so he can keep coaching)

I am rooting for him. You havent met a nicer, more likeable and passionate guy. Hes just a fantastic person and I want him to get the chance to succeed.
He's a nice guy. Hopefully USF goes to a bowl game this year. This conference really needs a strong USF football program.
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(04-25-2015 09:25 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I am super concerend considering we didnt Reilly into this class and he has to sit a year. We needed him on the line and then we lost another linemen. Were going to be REALLY thin on the offensive line, which is exactly what happened to us in 2007 when we hit #2 in the nation.... our Oline went down and so did the entire team.

I like Flowers but the kid is RAW. He really needs another year on the bench but that isnt an option considering he is our best Dual threat QB. Only way I like this team above .500 is if we get a transfer QB in who can help run this.... and somehow we pull a miracle and stay healthy.

Sad part is, none of it is Taggarts fault. He recruited some good QBs on paper but they didnt perform and offensive lines take years to get up to speed. I do think however that our new DC is going to make us back into the power we used to be on that side of the ball. USF used to be known for our defense... I want that again.

I think we are deeper in OLine it's just that the talent is young and inexperienced. Reilly at tackle would had been great but he would had been a freshmen. He now gets a year to get stronger which would be a big plus for 2016
I think inside at center and guards there is better talent than we had in past. At tackle we need the juco transfer to come in and make an impact.
Flowers will play better in this system that fits him better and he will have a better running attack and receivers than we had last year. I think he could have a good year, as long as he is not expected to drop back and pass for 250 yds a game.
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(04-25-2015 06:16 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 11:48 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  They spoke about this exclusively today on college football daily on ESPN. The good news is this will be replayed so catch it if you can. They call it for what it is, a recruiting loophole. You're kidding yourself if you believe this is an effort by WT to get kids. Why can't usf just hold their own camp? Why do they need to piggyback off of Harbaugh? I just don't understand how the usf fans are pissed about this. Remember those kids aren't there for usf or even their facilities, they're there for the purpose of being evaluated by Michigan.
They are conducting their own camp. Michigan coaches are guests. That is the loophole. Much ado about nothing. The only ones who should be upset are Florida and Florida State.

Except that. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...bs-coaches
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(04-25-2015 07:36 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:43 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:16 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 11:48 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  They spoke about this exclusively today on college football daily on ESPN. The good news is this will be replayed so catch it if you can. They call it for what it is, a recruiting loophole. You're kidding yourself if you believe this is an effort by WT to get kids. Why can't usf just hold their own camp? Why do they need to piggyback off of Harbaugh? I just don't understand how the usf fans are pissed about this. Remember those kids aren't there for usf or even their facilities, they're there for the purpose of being evaluated by Michigan.
They are conducting their own camp. Michigan coaches are guests. That is the loophole. Much ado about nothing. The only ones who should be upset are Florida and Florida State.

True...but every team in the SEC, ACC and much of the Big Ten also recruits in FLA so Michigan (Penn State has "guest" camps in NJ, Georgia, FLA too) has a ton of competition for these guys...and spending a day in a camp might give Big Blue an inside edge...hence why they do it.

Not sure about the ACC rule is..but the SEC has a rule their coaches can't not attend "guest camps"....hence why the SEC Coaches in particular hate that Penn State and Michigan are able to attend camps in their backyard...while SEC Coaches can't do that. (Imagine is Saban was able to attend/host a camp in talent rich Texas, Ohio, California, Pennsylvania, etc...it would be a rock show).

USF's advantage obviously is that more players will probably show up for their camp just because Harbaugh and UM Coaches will be there...vs if USF held their normal camp like everyone else.

and the other upside is that you know Harbaugh is going to help out his best friend by telling some of the recruits (that he doesnt want) that they should go play for Taggart.

Its a very smart move by Taggart to immediately tap into Harbaughs popularity. They send out invites to a ton of players and say that they can come to USF and meet with the Michigan coaching staff and then Harbaugh gets to take his pick of the litter, and then give a little push to those that Taggart wants.

Think about what you're saying, usf doesn't need Harbaugh to second hand sell usf. All of those things you list off when we're having a ucf/usf pissing contest, those are selling points that usf has to offer. Despite being in two other university towns usf is the only university that is proffering its facilities. Usf has its own merits and doesn't need Michigan for people to realize that, if you do your program is very big trouble.
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RE: Michigan hosting football camp in Florida... on USF campus???
Jared, I believe youre aware of our record for the past 5 years??? If you dont think thats in "very big trouble" then I dont know what to call it. At this point, Ill take any advantage we can get.

I hate UCF but I am also smart enough to know that having two strong schools in the middle of Florida together has a much better chance of succeeding and making it places then not. At this point, were tied at the hip and as much as it pains me to hope that UCF does well, I end having to in order to secure our mutual interests.

but when we both get into a major conference, Ill be back to wishing your demise!
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RE: Michigan hosting football camp in Florida... on USF campus???
(04-25-2015 10:19 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:16 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 11:48 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  They spoke about this exclusively today on college football daily on ESPN. The good news is this will be replayed so catch it if you can. They call it for what it is, a recruiting loophole. You're kidding yourself if you believe this is an effort by WT to get kids. Why can't usf just hold their own camp? Why do they need to piggyback off of Harbaugh? I just don't understand how the usf fans are pissed about this. Remember those kids aren't there for usf or even their facilities, they're there for the purpose of being evaluated by Michigan.
They are conducting their own camp. Michigan coaches are guests. That is the loophole. Much ado about nothing. The only ones who should be upset are Florida and Florida State.

Except that. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...bs-coaches
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../26236587/
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RE: Michigan hosting football camp in Florida... on USF campus???
(04-25-2015 10:26 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 07:36 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:43 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(04-25-2015 06:16 AM)panama Wrote:  
(04-24-2015 11:48 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  They spoke about this exclusively today on college football daily on ESPN. The good news is this will be replayed so catch it if you can. They call it for what it is, a recruiting loophole. You're kidding yourself if you believe this is an effort by WT to get kids. Why can't usf just hold their own camp? Why do they need to piggyback off of Harbaugh? I just don't understand how the usf fans are pissed about this. Remember those kids aren't there for usf or even their facilities, they're there for the purpose of being evaluated by Michigan.
They are conducting their own camp. Michigan coaches are guests. That is the loophole. Much ado about nothing. The only ones who should be upset are Florida and Florida State.

True...but every team in the SEC, ACC and much of the Big Ten also recruits in FLA so Michigan (Penn State has "guest" camps in NJ, Georgia, FLA too) has a ton of competition for these guys...and spending a day in a camp might give Big Blue an inside edge...hence why they do it.

Not sure about the ACC rule is..but the SEC has a rule their coaches can't not attend "guest camps"....hence why the SEC Coaches in particular hate that Penn State and Michigan are able to attend camps in their backyard...while SEC Coaches can't do that. (Imagine is Saban was able to attend/host a camp in talent rich Texas, Ohio, California, Pennsylvania, etc...it would be a rock show).

USF's advantage obviously is that more players will probably show up for their camp just because Harbaugh and UM Coaches will be there...vs if USF held their normal camp like everyone else.

and the other upside is that you know Harbaugh is going to help out his best friend by telling some of the recruits (that he doesnt want) that they should go play for Taggart.

Its a very smart move by Taggart to immediately tap into Harbaughs popularity. They send out invites to a ton of players and say that they can come to USF and meet with the Michigan coaching staff and then Harbaugh gets to take his pick of the litter, and then give a little push to those that Taggart wants.

Think about what you're saying, usf doesn't need Harbaugh to second hand sell usf. All of those things you list off when we're having a ucf/usf pissing contest, those are selling points that usf has to offer. Despite being in two other university towns usf is the only university that is proffering its facilities. Usf has its own merits and doesn't need Michigan for people to realize that, if you do your program is very big trouble.

Once again you miss the point we are trying to make.
1. Those kids that are set on going to Michigan will be going there regardless of wether this camp happens or not.
2. Those kids that WT has sold USF and visited USF and are sold on it. That's not the group coming to this event.
3. The kids that are considering Michigan but have shown little interest in USF and have not visited USF. Will now be coming to our campus and give away another shot at selling them on what USF has. These kids probably wouldn't have seen USF otherwise. Plus Michigan will NOT be offering and taking everyone in this camp so it allows USF to sell itself to them.
Wether you want to admit or not the facts are that the Michigan name would attract recruits to both USF and UCF campus that might not had visited in the first place.
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