Very good read. I have always thought that Houston and SMU could be on par with TCU and Baylor in football. The American needs that to be true in order to elevate the league.
Very good read. I have always thought that Houston and SMU could be on par with TCU and Baylor in football. The American needs that to be true in order to elevate the league.
On par?!?
The only reason baylor gets any attention at all is b/c texas and the conference they're in... So pretty please with sugar on top don't use the word "par" when comparing Houston to a tiny place like Waco.
Very good read. I have always thought that Houston and SMU could be on par with TCU and Baylor in football. The American needs that to be true in order to elevate the league.
On par?!?
The only reason baylor gets any attention at all is b/c texas and the conference they're in... So pretty please with sugar on top don't use the word "par" when comparing Houston to a tiny place like Waco.
I didn't realize we were comparing city populations. I thought we were talking about football programs. When Houston is on the cusp of making the inaugural CFB playoff or a consistent top 25 team let me know. I am no Baylor fan but their football program has been very good. Houston should aspire to play at that level.
Very good read. I have always thought that Houston and SMU could be on par with TCU and Baylor in football. The American needs that to be true in order to elevate the league.
On par?!?
The only reason baylor gets any attention at all is b/c texas and the conference they're in... So pretty please with sugar on top don't use the word "par" when comparing Houston to a tiny place like Waco.
I didn't realize we were comparing city populations. I thought we were talking about football programs. When Houston is on the cusp of making the inaugural CFB playoff or a consistent top 25 team let me know. I am no Baylor fan but their football program has been very good. Houston should aspire to play at that level.
I never said anything about population man, I already know Waco doesn't come close to us. lol
lol "Houston should aspire to play at that level" Houston is/has played at a higher level numerous times before those little bears... Perhaps you heard of these x-Houston coaches, the great Bill Yeoman, Pardee... Oh, and to name few others Briles, Sumlin. lol
Bellow is a small history lesson under our great Bill Yeoman
"For three straight years Houston led the nation in total offense, averaging 437 yards a game in 1966, 427 in 1967, and 562 in 1968. The 1968 total was an NCAA record at the time. Houston also led the nation in scoring with 42.5 points per game that year."
So, get out of here with that "par" and "play at that level" BS
Very good read. I have always thought that Houston and SMU could be on par with TCU and Baylor in football. The American needs that to be true in order to elevate the league.
On par?!?
The only reason baylor gets any attention at all is b/c texas and the conference they're in... So pretty please with sugar on top don't use the word "par" when comparing Houston to a tiny place like Waco.
I didn't realize we were comparing city populations. I thought we were talking about football programs. When Houston is on the cusp of making the inaugural CFB playoff or a consistent top 25 team let me know. I am no Baylor fan but their football program has been very good. Houston should aspire to play at that level.
I never said anything about population man, I already know Waco doesn't come close to us. lol
lol "Houston should aspire to play at that level" Houston is/has played at a higher level numerous times before those little bears... Perhaps you heard of these x-Houston coaches, the great Bill Yeoman, Pardee... Oh, and to name few others Briles, Sumlin. lol
Bellow is a small history lesson under our great Bill Yeoman
"For three straight years Houston led the nation in total offense, averaging 437 yards a game in 1966, 427 in 1967, and 562 in 1968. The 1968 total was an NCAA record at the time. Houston also led the nation in scoring with 42.5 points per game that year."
So, get out of here with that "par" and "play at that level" BS
Come on man your are quoting the 60's. I know Houston has a rich history but I am talking about current day teams. Baylor was in the national title race the last few years. What in your honest opinion is the chance Houston will be discussed or even close to being discussed in the national title talk??? They just aren't on that same level current day. I think Houston is full of potential and the league needs Houston to field a team at that level. I am rooting for you guys and I love the Herman hire. I am not trying to disrespect you or houston. I was simply saying if those teams can do it there is no reason a Houston or SMU can't given support which is what the league needs to raise our profile.
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2015 07:15 PM by PT_american.)
RE: How Tom Herman, Chad Morris are building Houston, SMU
(04-21-2015 06:38 PM)PT_american Wrote:
(04-21-2015 05:30 PM)BigHouston Wrote:
(04-21-2015 02:55 PM)PT_american Wrote:
(04-21-2015 02:09 PM)BigHouston Wrote:
(04-21-2015 01:13 PM)PT_american Wrote: Very good read. I have always thought that Houston and SMU could be on par with TCU and Baylor in football. The American needs that to be true in order to elevate the league.
On par?!?
The only reason baylor gets any attention at all is b/c texas and the conference they're in... So pretty please with sugar on top don't use the word "par" when comparing Houston to a tiny place like Waco.
I didn't realize we were comparing city populations. I thought we were talking about football programs. When Houston is on the cusp of making the inaugural CFB playoff or a consistent top 25 team let me know. I am no Baylor fan but their football program has been very good. Houston should aspire to play at that level.
I never said anything about population man, I already know Waco doesn't come close to us. lol
lol "Houston should aspire to play at that level" Houston is/has played at a higher level numerous times before those little bears... Perhaps you heard of these x-Houston coaches, the great Bill Yeoman, Pardee... Oh, and to name few others Briles, Sumlin. lol
Bellow is a small history lesson under our great Bill Yeoman
"For three straight years Houston led the nation in total offense, averaging 437 yards a game in 1966, 427 in 1967, and 562 in 1968. The 1968 total was an NCAA record at the time. Houston also led the nation in scoring with 42.5 points per game that year."
So, get out of here with that "par" and "play at that level" BS
Come on man your are quoting the 60's. I know Houston has a rich history but I am talking about current day teams. Baylor was in the national title race the last few years. What in your honest opinion is the chance Houston will be discussed or even close to being discussed in the national title talk??? They just aren't on that same level current day. I think Houston is full of potential and the league needs Houston to field a team at that level. I am rooting for you guys and I love the Herman hire. I am not trying to disrespect you or houston. I was simply saying if those teams can do it there is no reason a Houston or SMU can't given support which is what the league needs to raise our profile.
I appreciate the kind words and I shouldn't of came at you the way I did... Guess I have no respect towards small/tiny overrated wannabe big programs.
RE: How Tom Herman, Chad Morris are building Houston, SMU
Baylor has been legit as of late (don't tell UCF that), but they're less than a decade removed from being one of, if not the worst BCS/P5 program in the country. Let's see them maintain that success over a period of time before dubbing them the next Alabama.
RE: How Tom Herman, Chad Morris are building Houston, SMU
(04-21-2015 08:07 PM)Kronke Wrote: Baylor has been legit as of late (don't tell UCF that), but they're less than a decade removed from being one of, if not the worst BCS/P5 program in the country. Let's see them maintain that success over a period of time before dubbing them the next Alabama.
No, I agree Baylor has only been legit lately. My point really was only on the football field that if TCU and Baylor could put together teams like they have recently there shouldn't be any reason Houston and SMU couldn't if the administration provided the appropriate support. Which is seems like is happening from my 30,000 foot view of the situation. I mean TCU is probably the better example as they were able to field some pretty legit teams when they weren't in the B12 as well which would be a closer comparison to our current conference stature in the new landscape. I mean they were very close to playing in the national title game in 2010 when they were # 3 in the BCS and ended the year #2 overall.
Sorry to offend just trying to emphasize how much potential I think this league really has. Schools are stepping up with new facilities and great coaching hires.
RE: How Tom Herman, Chad Morris are building Houston, SMU
(04-22-2015 10:37 AM)PT_american Wrote:
(04-21-2015 08:07 PM)Kronke Wrote: Baylor has been legit as of late (don't tell UCF that), but they're less than a decade removed from being one of, if not the worst BCS/P5 program in the country. Let's see them maintain that success over a period of time before dubbing them the next Alabama.
No, I agree Baylor has only been legit lately. My point really was only on the football field that if TCU and Baylor could put together teams like they have recently there shouldn't be any reason Houston and SMU couldn't if the administration provided the appropriate support. Which is seems like is happening from my 30,000 foot view of the situation. I mean TCU is probably the better example as they were able to field some pretty legit teams when they weren't in the B12 as well which would be a closer comparison to our current conference stature in the new landscape. I mean they were very close to playing in the national title game in 2010 when they were # 3 in the BCS and ended the year #2 overall.
Sorry to offend just trying to emphasize how much potential I think this league really has. Schools are stepping up with new facilities and great coaching hires.
To be completely fair to us as well, we fielded a team that got as high as #6 in the country just a few years ago, and would have gone to the Sugar Bowl had we not Coog'ed the CUSA Championship game.
RE: How Tom Herman, Chad Morris are building Houston, SMU
(04-22-2015 10:39 AM)Kronke Wrote:
(04-22-2015 10:37 AM)PT_american Wrote:
(04-21-2015 08:07 PM)Kronke Wrote: Baylor has been legit as of late (don't tell UCF that), but they're less than a decade removed from being one of, if not the worst BCS/P5 program in the country. Let's see them maintain that success over a period of time before dubbing them the next Alabama.
No, I agree Baylor has only been legit lately. My point really was only on the football field that if TCU and Baylor could put together teams like they have recently there shouldn't be any reason Houston and SMU couldn't if the administration provided the appropriate support. Which is seems like is happening from my 30,000 foot view of the situation. I mean TCU is probably the better example as they were able to field some pretty legit teams when they weren't in the B12 as well which would be a closer comparison to our current conference stature in the new landscape. I mean they were very close to playing in the national title game in 2010 when they were # 3 in the BCS and ended the year #2 overall.
Sorry to offend just trying to emphasize how much potential I think this league really has. Schools are stepping up with new facilities and great coaching hires.
To be completely fair to us as well, we fielded a team that got as high as #6 in the country just a few years ago, and would have gone to the Sugar Bowl had we not Coog'ed the CUSA Championship game.
I honestly don't think our boys Coog'ed, Kronke
I place total blame on Sumlin... While our team searched for guidance, preparation and leadership for that game, the head coach then was focusing on his $$$ deal instead.
(This post was last modified: 04-22-2015 10:57 AM by BigHouston.)
Very good read. I have always thought that Houston and SMU could be on par with TCU and Baylor in football. The American needs that to be true in order to elevate the league.
On par?!?
The only reason baylor gets any attention at all is b/c texas and the conference they're in... So pretty please with sugar on top don't use the word "par" when comparing Houston to a tiny place like Waco.
Er ah....Houston is not playing Waco. SMU use to play at the level Baylor now is, but like Houston that is ancient history.
(This post was last modified: 04-22-2015 04:55 PM by SMUmustangs.)
Very good read. I have always thought that Houston and SMU could be on par with TCU and Baylor in football. The American needs that to be true in order to elevate the league.
On par?!?
The only reason baylor gets any attention at all is b/c texas and the conference they're in... So pretty please with sugar on top don't use the word "par" when comparing Houston to a tiny place like Waco.
Er ah....Houston is not playing Waco. SMU use to play at the level Baylor now is, but like Houston that is ancient history.
SMU has not finished ranked since 1984. It hasn't been ranked mid-season since 1986. UH has finished ranked 4 times since then including in the top 10. UH has been in the top 10 mid-season as recently as 2011. Three years ago is not ancient, especially when compared to 30 years ago.
RE: How Tom Herman, Chad Morris are building Houston, SMU
The above is in reference to David Moore the QB from Georgia who just committed to SMU but was seriously looking at Houston too. Guess Houston and SMU need to schedule Utah.
RE: How Tom Herman, Chad Morris are building Houston, SMU
utah was G5 just a few years ago...we we compete with utah on a regular basis, a ton of our kids have utah offers. utah and oregon basically live in houston