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RE: Attendance question
For WKU, annex UK out of the state, do not schedule any Nov. home games, do not schedule any games where temp could possibly by under 60...

In all seriousness we were improving in attendance every season until last year...Last year was a huge disappointment attendance wise and it comes down to 3 Nov. games....People in BG and surrounding areas will not sit outside unless conditions are perfect and temp. is above 60...Not holding my breath or banking on it, but would hope our attendance is a little better this season after what we did last year and the excitement with our offense....
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RE: Attendance question
(04-19-2015 01:05 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  
(04-19-2015 12:05 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(04-19-2015 07:57 AM)Theflash Wrote:  TV also hurts. Every game, nowadays, is watchable somewhere. It is just too easy to stay an front of the TV instead of driving up the road for a home game, or, in my case, driving an hour or 2 to a road game (such as Middle). I understand television is so important, but it hurts in a lot of ways as well.

Thats the biggest bull**** excuse ever created. OSU, Alabama, Florida etc are all on TV and much more accessible TV at that in primerime slots and dont have issues.

Its about the brand, the level you are perceived to be on and the opponents you play... add winning and it snowballs into an Alabama etc. We are all in CUSA, people aren't coming because its a big game being UTSA vs North Texas etc, its just about the people who love those schools. A casual or average sports fan that lives 5 minutes from the stadum just doesn't care avout that level of football. Turn that into an OSU vs Michigan game and they may not even care soecifically but they (i would also if no MU game) go to that game for the experience o the event it is. I would not go watch MTSU vs WKU to fill my time, however.

Ehh, actually schools like Florida who are NOT in the top 5 in the country do have issues. Even FSU in the last couple of years didn't come close to selling out several games against not top 25 or not rivals.

You guys are not paying attention if you think the big boys are not having problems...Attendance was down just about everywhere and when Alabama plays a FCS or not a "name Opponent" even their student section was only half full....Its not just our conf. with problems, its even effecting SEC football too on attendance....
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RE: Attendance question
(04-20-2015 08:18 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  For WKU, annex UK out of the state, do not schedule any Nov. home games, do not schedule any games where temp could possibly by under 60...

In all seriousness we were improving in attendance every season until last year...Last year was a huge disappointment attendance wise and it comes down to 3 Nov. games....People in BG and surrounding areas will not sit outside unless conditions are perfect and temp. is above 60...Not holding my breath or banking on it, but would hope our attendance is a little better this season after what we did last year and the excitement with our offense....

That's sad, especially given the quality of the team and stadium.
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RE: Attendance question
(04-20-2015 08:23 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(04-19-2015 01:05 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  
(04-19-2015 12:05 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(04-19-2015 07:57 AM)Theflash Wrote:  TV also hurts. Every game, nowadays, is watchable somewhere. It is just too easy to stay an front of the TV instead of driving up the road for a home game, or, in my case, driving an hour or 2 to a road game (such as Middle). I understand television is so important, but it hurts in a lot of ways as well.

Thats the biggest bull**** excuse ever created. OSU, Alabama, Florida etc are all on TV and much more accessible TV at that in primerime slots and dont have issues.

Its about the brand, the level you are perceived to be on and the opponents you play... add winning and it snowballs into an Alabama etc. We are all in CUSA, people aren't coming because its a big game being UTSA vs North Texas etc, its just about the people who love those schools. A casual or average sports fan that lives 5 minutes from the stadum just doesn't care avout that level of football. Turn that into an OSU vs Michigan game and they may not even care soecifically but they (i would also if no MU game) go to that game for the experience o the event it is. I would not go watch MTSU vs WKU to fill my time, however.

Ehh, actually schools like Florida who are NOT in the top 5 in the country do have issues. Even FSU in the last couple of years didn't come close to selling out several games against not top 25 or not rivals.

You guys are not paying attention if you think the big boys are not having problems...Attendance was down just about everywhere and when Alabama plays a FCS or not a "name Opponent" even their student section was only half full....Its not just our conf. with problems, its even effecting SEC football too on attendance....

Agreed. It is getting harder each season for everyone to compete with HD TV and the comfort of home.
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RE: Attendance question
(04-20-2015 08:42 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(04-20-2015 08:23 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(04-19-2015 01:05 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  
(04-19-2015 12:05 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(04-19-2015 07:57 AM)Theflash Wrote:  TV also hurts. Every game, nowadays, is watchable somewhere. It is just too easy to stay an front of the TV instead of driving up the road for a home game, or, in my case, driving an hour or 2 to a road game (such as Middle). I understand television is so important, but it hurts in a lot of ways as well.

Thats the biggest bull**** excuse ever created. OSU, Alabama, Florida etc are all on TV and much more accessible TV at that in primerime slots and dont have issues.

Its about the brand, the level you are perceived to be on and the opponents you play... add winning and it snowballs into an Alabama etc. We are all in CUSA, people aren't coming because its a big game being UTSA vs North Texas etc, its just about the people who love those schools. A casual or average sports fan that lives 5 minutes from the stadum just doesn't care avout that level of football. Turn that into an OSU vs Michigan game and they may not even care soecifically but they (i would also if no MU game) go to that game for the experience o the event it is. I would not go watch MTSU vs WKU to fill my time, however.

Ehh, actually schools like Florida who are NOT in the top 5 in the country do have issues. Even FSU in the last couple of years didn't come close to selling out several games against not top 25 or not rivals.

You guys are not paying attention if you think the big boys are not having problems...Attendance was down just about everywhere and when Alabama plays a FCS or not a "name Opponent" even their student section was only half full....Its not just our conf. with problems, its even effecting SEC football too on attendance....

Agreed. It is getting harder each season for everyone to compete with HD TV and the comfort of home.

I think that's Miami's biggest problem. For most of our ACC games we'd only pull 40-50k... And that's not a lot in a stadium that holds 80,000. Fortunately, we had a major renovation begin this off-season at Sun Life so maybe more will come... But still, a huge problem -- can easily sit home on the couch and watch in AC instead of going to hot, 100* steamy stadium in S FL sun.
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RE: Attendance question
(04-20-2015 08:57 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  
(04-20-2015 08:42 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(04-20-2015 08:23 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(04-19-2015 01:05 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  
(04-19-2015 12:05 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Thats the biggest bull**** excuse ever created. OSU, Alabama, Florida etc are all on TV and much more accessible TV at that in primerime slots and dont have issues.

Its about the brand, the level you are perceived to be on and the opponents you play... add winning and it snowballs into an Alabama etc. We are all in CUSA, people aren't coming because its a big game being UTSA vs North Texas etc, its just about the people who love those schools. A casual or average sports fan that lives 5 minutes from the stadum just doesn't care avout that level of football. Turn that into an OSU vs Michigan game and they may not even care soecifically but they (i would also if no MU game) go to that game for the experience o the event it is. I would not go watch MTSU vs WKU to fill my time, however.

Ehh, actually schools like Florida who are NOT in the top 5 in the country do have issues. Even FSU in the last couple of years didn't come close to selling out several games against not top 25 or not rivals.

You guys are not paying attention if you think the big boys are not having problems...Attendance was down just about everywhere and when Alabama plays a FCS or not a "name Opponent" even their student section was only half full....Its not just our conf. with problems, its even effecting SEC football too on attendance....

Agreed. It is getting harder each season for everyone to compete with HD TV and the comfort of home.

I think that's Miami's biggest problem. For most of our ACC games we'd only pull 40-50k... And that's not a lot in a stadium that holds 80,000. Fortunately, we had a major renovation begin this off-season at Sun Life so maybe more will come... But still, a huge problem -- can easily sit home on the couch and watch in AC instead of going to hot, 100* steamy stadium in S FL sun.

Playing 20 miles from campus is no help either.
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RE: Attendance question
Tech would need more support from the casual football fans in North Louisiana. That would probably mean ULM, Grambling, and/or NW State would need to drop football. There just isn't enough people in our area to support that many programs, especially since 90% of them are LSU fans.
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RE: Attendance question
As for ODU, yes, we do have some built in advantages that help attendance. However, our attendance is also the byproduct of a very well ran athletic department that has had solid leadership for the past 30+ years, along with a culture that's pro-athletics. I think ODU should be able to successfully continue sellouts around the 28-35k range, and that's what the administration is aiming for in the new stadium; the key is to keep the demand for tickets while expanding slowly or as needed.

The goal for any school should be to have a sellout regardless of who is on the schedule. Easier said than done, but it's hard to sustain support (even when winning) if the operation isn't well run.
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Outside of "Jerryworld" stadiums are getting smaller with more amenities and 'value' per ticket. Stadiums, tracks and arenas are adding better and bigger video and sound displays. Daytona International Speedway is getting rid of thousands of seats, expanding current and future seat sizes, adding wifi and improved concessions. The Jags and Dolphins are have added/adding the cabanas and comfortable seating 'living room style' to their stadiums. Lower capacity, better conveniences, more comfortable arrangements are the new norm to get fans to the event. Personally when I go to a game/race, I always get seats in family sections, I want to bring my kids, I don't want drunks swearing a blue streak, I don't want bench seating and poor facilities. I have three teenage daughters, cool video boards and good wifi signals are important to them, if I get them there, the action can make fans in time. ODU is going the right way with the new stadium plans, we will be river-side, using the FAU Stadium footprint. Personally I would have a short roof over the stands like the Seahawks Stadium, the crowd noise is reflected back and I stay a little drier. The actual number of seats in a modern stadium (save maybe Jerryworld) is a dead horse argument. If you want folks to attend treat them right and make it worth their while.
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(04-20-2015 04:08 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  Outside of "Jerryworld" stadiums are getting smaller with more amenities and 'value' per ticket. Stadiums, tracks and arenas are adding better and bigger video and sound displays. Daytona International Speedway is getting rid of thousands of seats, expanding current and future seat sizes, adding wifi and improved concessions. The Jags and Dolphins are have added/adding the cabanas and comfortable seating 'living room style' to their stadiums. Lower capacity, better conveniences, more comfortable arrangements are the new norm to get fans to the event. Personally when I go to a game/race, I always get seats in family sections, I want to bring my kids, I don't want drunks swearing a blue streak, I don't want bench seating and poor facilities. I have three teenage daughters, cool video boards and good wifi signals are important to them, if I get them there, the action can make fans in time. ODU is going the right way with the new stadium plans, we will be river-side, using the FAU Stadium footprint. Personally I would have a short roof over the stands like the Seahawks Stadium, the crowd noise is reflected back and I stay a little drier. The actual number of seats in a modern stadium (save maybe Jerryworld) is a dead horse argument. If you want folks to attend treat them right and make it worth their while.


I have to agree.

A lot of us at Marshall would like for us to do some similar things. It might lower our capacity, but who cares, we rarely sell out anyways.

I think you guys are smart by expanding while still having demand for a ticket.
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(04-20-2015 04:08 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  Outside of "Jerryworld" stadiums are getting smaller with more amenities and 'value' per ticket. Stadiums, tracks and arenas are adding better and bigger video and sound displays. Daytona International Speedway is getting rid of thousands of seats, expanding current and future seat sizes, adding wifi and improved concessions. The Jags and Dolphins are have added/adding the cabanas and comfortable seating 'living room style' to their stadiums. Lower capacity, better conveniences, more comfortable arrangements are the new norm to get fans to the event. Personally when I go to a game/race, I always get seats in family sections, I want to bring my kids, I don't want drunks swearing a blue streak, I don't want bench seating and poor facilities. I have three teenage daughters, cool video boards and good wifi signals are important to them, if I get them there, the action can make fans in time. ODU is going the right way with the new stadium plans, we will be river-side, using the FAU Stadium footprint. Personally I would have a short roof over the stands like the Seahawks Stadium, the crowd noise is reflected back and I stay a little drier. The actual number of seats in a modern stadium (save maybe Jerryworld) is a dead horse argument. If you want folks to attend treat them right and make it worth their while.

Totally agree. I think all of us need to focus on having a capacity in the 30-40k range but making it a really really nice viewing experience. Top notch concessions, bathrooms, audio and video throughout the stadiums. When you continually sell out, don't expand, just keep it the same and cause the demand for tickets to increase. Focus on customer satisfaction and value and you'll have people returning to partake of your product.
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(04-20-2015 08:07 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  
(04-20-2015 04:08 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  Outside of "Jerryworld" stadiums are getting smaller with more amenities and 'value' per ticket. Stadiums, tracks and arenas are adding better and bigger video and sound displays. Daytona International Speedway is getting rid of thousands of seats, expanding current and future seat sizes, adding wifi and improved concessions. The Jags and Dolphins are have added/adding the cabanas and comfortable seating 'living room style' to their stadiums. Lower capacity, better conveniences, more comfortable arrangements are the new norm to get fans to the event. Personally when I go to a game/race, I always get seats in family sections, I want to bring my kids, I don't want drunks swearing a blue streak, I don't want bench seating and poor facilities. I have three teenage daughters, cool video boards and good wifi signals are important to them, if I get them there, the action can make fans in time. ODU is going the right way with the new stadium plans, we will be river-side, using the FAU Stadium footprint. Personally I would have a short roof over the stands like the Seahawks Stadium, the crowd noise is reflected back and I stay a little drier. The actual number of seats in a modern stadium (save maybe Jerryworld) is a dead horse argument. If you want folks to attend treat them right and make it worth their while.

Totally agree. I think all of us need to focus on having a capacity in the 30-40k range but making it a really really nice viewing experience. Top notch concessions, bathrooms, audio and video throughout the stadiums. When you continually sell out, don't expand, just keep it the same and cause the demand for tickets to increase. Focus on customer satisfaction and value and you'll have people returning to partake of your product.

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