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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
It's going to depend on the assistants he hires. If he gets some strong recruiters and he himself is good in that arena it could work. Damn sure not a home run hire, even if that is the spin.
OTOH, they came out a lot better than it was looking like they would.
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
(04-05-2015 05:38 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: He will be a home run hire to some 18 year old players who only know him as the guy who talks basketball on ESPN. He will impress in the living rooms of some of these guys houses talking to their mamas. As the only black coach of a major school in the state, he will have a leg up.
Whether he can coach remains to be seen. I bet he can recruit though.
Agreed. On the court coaching, motivating kids and program management remains to be seen...but I can't imagine recruiting will be an issue
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
(04-05-2015 05:53 PM)LairDweller Wrote: (04-05-2015 05:38 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: He will be a home run hire to some 18 year old players who only know him as the guy who talks basketball on ESPN. He will impress in the living rooms of some of these guys houses talking to their mamas. As the only black coach of a major school in the state, he will have a leg up.
Whether he can coach remains to be seen. I bet he can recruit though.
Agreed. On the court coaching, motivating kids and program management remains to be seen...but I can't imagine recruiting will be an issue
That's why assistants will be big. All those things you mentioned are handled completely differently in the NBA, he will need people to help him who have been there before.
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
(04-05-2015 05:56 PM)TPBlaze84 Wrote: (04-05-2015 05:53 PM)LairDweller Wrote: (04-05-2015 05:38 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: He will be a home run hire to some 18 year old players who only know him as the guy who talks basketball on ESPN. He will impress in the living rooms of some of these guys houses talking to their mamas. As the only black coach of a major school in the state, he will have a leg up.
Whether he can coach remains to be seen. I bet he can recruit though.
Agreed. On the court coaching, motivating kids and program management remains to be seen...but I can't imagine recruiting will be an issue
That's why assistants will be big. All those things you mentioned are handled completely differently in the NBA, he will need people to help him who have been there before.
Yes
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
They'll be huge. Gottfried was a helluva lot better coach when he had T.R. Dunn sitting beside him.
And frankly, in this state, the University of Alabama recruits itself, same as UT does, whether Texas or Tennessee, or Ohio State, or any number of other such schools.
(This post was last modified: 04-05-2015 06:52 PM by UAB Band Dad.)
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
Maybe now UA will want to play us.
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
(04-05-2015 07:17 PM)rook360 Wrote: Maybe now UA will want to play us.
LOL
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(04-05-2015 07:18 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote: (04-05-2015 07:17 PM)rook360 Wrote: Maybe now UA will want to play us.
LOL
I KNOW RIGHT!!!
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
(04-03-2015 05:11 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: I can think of from 4.2 to 4.9 million reasons.
That's a reason for me and you to take it. Not so much for a talented coach with options.
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
I think it's a good hire by Bama. Definitely not comparable to Cal at UK. Cal was a known commodity when UK hired him. He won everywhere he coached with the exception of his stint in the NBA. Johnson has a lot going for him; successful career in the league where he played under the best coach in the game today, and above average NBA coaching career. If he can adjust to the college game he will do well. I'd take him over Pearl.
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
If I were a UA fan, I would not be excited about the Avery Johnson hire. At face value, he's a spashy hire. In reality, he is a guy who has been fired from two NBA jobs and couldn't win a championship with prime-Dirk and a talent rich Dallas team that was gift-wrapped to him.
He'll have some success in his first couple of years, then it'll be back to status quo.
Then again, his antiquated coaching style may be more suited to the college game.
Anyways, basketball is on the up-and-up in the state, and that's good for everyone.
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
(04-05-2015 10:52 PM)jthrashr Wrote: If I were a UA fan, I would not be excited about the Avery Johnson hire. At face value, he's a spashy hire. In reality, he is a guy who has been fired from two NBA jobs and couldn't win a championship with prime-Dirk and a talent rich Dallas team that was gift-wrapped to him.
He'll have some success in his first couple of years, then it'll be back to status quo.
Then again, his antiquated coaching style may be more suited to the college game.
Anyways, basketball is on the up-and-up in the state, and that's good for everyone.
I think he is a solid hire. With right assistants he may do real well. I agree 100% with you bball being on the up & up and that's good for us all. I want UAB to consistently be the best program in the state. With that said it means a hell of a lot more if we are sending multiple teams to dance on a regular basis. UAB, Auburn, Alabama, and Samford all may be trending in that direction.
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
(04-06-2015 07:46 AM)stc Wrote: (04-05-2015 10:52 PM)jthrashr Wrote: If I were a UA fan, I would not be excited about the Avery Johnson hire. At face value, he's a spashy hire. In reality, he is a guy who has been fired from two NBA jobs and couldn't win a championship with prime-Dirk and a talent rich Dallas team that was gift-wrapped to him.
He'll have some success in his first couple of years, then it'll be back to status quo.
Then again, his antiquated coaching style may be more suited to the college game.
Anyways, basketball is on the up-and-up in the state, and that's good for everyone.
I think he is a solid hire. With right assistants he may do real well. I agree 100% with you bball being on the up & up and that's good for us all. I want UAB to consistently be the best program in the state. With that said it means a hell of a lot more if we are sending multiple teams to dance on a regular basis. UAB, Auburn, Alabama, and Samford all may be trending in that direction.
Can't be the best program in the state if EVERYONE IN THE STATE won't play you.
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
It's a decent hire. He's enough of a name that it gets Battle off the hook. He won't have to hire a coach from a "lesser conference" again after all the blather about making a home run hire, a Saban for basketball.
On the other hand, the only other case I can think of offhand of hiring a guy with NBA experience but none in the college game was Sidney Lowe and NC State, and that didn't work out too well.
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
(04-05-2015 09:37 PM)BlazintheATL Wrote: I think it's a good hire by Bama. Definitely not comparable to Cal at UK. Cal was a known commodity when UK hired him. He won everywhere he coached with the exception of his stint in the NBA. Johnson has a lot going for him; successful career in the league where he played under the best coach in the game today, and above average NBA coaching career. If he can adjust to the college game he will do well. I'd take him over Pearl.
I disagree with most of this. Johnson went 194-70 with Dallas teams that 5 of us on this board could have guided to the playoffs. He also was the coach of the 67-15 team that got beat by an 8 seed. Then, he went to the nets and went 60-116. A guy getting fired from multiple jobs generally isn't a good indication of future success.
And I would take pearl over him all day, even knowing that he will likely cheat and be caught cheating again.
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
The big issues are first, he has never coached at the college level. He will need to include an assistant that has that experience, either a former head coach or long-time assistant coach.
Second, can he coach players? "Coaching" players in the NBA is not coaching/teaching players in college. He may be a good Xs and Os guy, but can he improve a player from freshman to senior? I know the head coach doesn't do it all on his own, this may rely on getting the right assistants, also.
Splash hire? Maybe. He's a name, but not a college name. He has no track record in college to back up being a good coach to play for. It will be interesting to see who and how he recruits versus who he ends up signing.
The talking heads only mention Pearl as the other program in state to beat. We all know that right now, Haase is on top in the state. The big question is can he stay on top? Pearl is good, but it's Auburn. Not a knock against Auburn, but Pearl has to fight the perception that is Auburn. Johnson is energetic, but unproven. Alabama has the football brand behind it and have other nationally recognized programs. If the machine puts money into it, there's no reason to think that basketball can't be good there. It will be an interesting to see how this all plays out over the next few years. I have faith in Haase and expect UAB to remain the best in state.
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RE: "Alabama's option is right up the road"
He will last 2 years, get tired of it, & quit.
He will finish around .500 both seasons.
Battle kicked the can down the road for 2 years because his seat was getting extremely hot.
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