2009-10 (0-2)

Upset wins: None.

Upset losses: @SMU 60-70 1/30/10; CUSA Tourn - Houston 65-66 3/11/10


2010-11 (2-4)

Upset wins: @Gonzaga 62-58 2/5/11; CUSA Tourn - UTEP 67-66

Upset losses: @UT 84-104 1/5/11; @SMU 58-64 1/12/11; @Rice 62-67 2/19/11; @ECU 57-68 3/2/11


2011-12 (0-3)

Upset wins: None.

Upset losses: Murray State 72-76 12/10/11; @UCF 67-68 1/18/12; UTEP 58-60 2/18/12


2012-13 (0-2)

Upset wins: None.

Upset losses: Minnesota 75-84 11/23/12; @Xavier 62-64 2/26/13


2013-14 (3-2)


Upset wins: Oklahoma State 73-68 12/1/13; @Louisville 73-67 1/9/14; Louisville 72-66

Upset losses: Cincinnati 53-69 1/14/14; @Houston 68-77 2/27/14


2014-15 (2-4)


Upset wins: Cincinnati 63-50 1/15/15; @UConn 54-53 3/5/15

Upset Losses: CBU (exhib) 70-74 11/12/14; SFA 52-64 12/2/14; Tulane 60-74 1/3/15; @ECU 52-64 2/10/15




I think this is a pretty fair assessment of games we won that we probably should have lost and games we lost that we probably should have won.

(This is based on the teams and coaching staffs he built. I think he should have done better by now in this area and that we should have at least one S16 (or better) given the resources he's had at his disposal but this isn't reflected in these numbers.)

My verdict: The Paz is 7-17 (0.291)

(03-29-2015 04:27 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  2009-10 (0-2)

Upset wins: None.

Upset losses: @SMU 60-70 1/30/10; CUSA Tourn - Houston 65-66 3/11/10


2010-11 (2-4)

Upset wins: @Gonzaga 62-58 2/5/11; CUSA Tourn - UTEP 67-66

Upset losses: @UT 84-104 1/5/11; @SMU 58-64 1/12/11; @Rice 62-67 2/19/11; @ECU 57-68 3/2/11


2011-12 (0-3)

Upset wins: None.

Upset losses: Murray State 72-76 12/10/11; @UCF 67-68 1/18/12; UTEP 58-60 2/18/12


2012-13 (0-2)

Upset wins: None.

Upset losses: Minnesota 75-84 11/23/12; @Xavier 62-64 2/26/13


2013-14 (3-2)


Upset wins: Oklahoma State 73-68 12/1/13; @Louisville 73-67 1/9/14; Louisville 72-66

Upset losses: Cincinnati 53-69 1/14/14; @Houston 68-77 2/27/14


2014-15 (2-4)


Upset wins: Cincinnati 63-50 1/15/15; @UConn 54-53 3/5/15

Upset Losses: CBU (exhib) 70-74 11/12/14; SFA 52-64 12/2/14; Tulane 60-74 1/3/15; @ECU 52-64 2/10/15




I think this is a pretty fair assessment of games we won that we probably should have lost and games we lost that we probably should have won.

(This is based on the teams and coaching staffs he built. I think he should have done better by now in this area and that we should have at least one S16 (or better) given the resources he's had at his disposal but this isn't reflected in these numbers.)

My verdict: The Paz is 7-17 (0.291)

although I completely agree I'm not sure if that 2011-2012 Murray State team counts as an upset loss. They lost only two games all year

I dont know if I would count Uconn as an upset win this year. They were about as bad as we were.

Yeah, it's all fairly subjective. I just went on feel. I think we should have beaten that Murray State team because it was a home game and I think it was a mild upset to beat UConn at their place this year........

(03-29-2015 06:17 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Yeah, it's all fairly subjective. I just went on feel. I think we should have beaten that Murray State team because it was a home game and I think it was a mild upset to beat UConn at their place........

Same as SFA this year. Sure they had impressive records, but they loaded up on wins by competing in a garbage league. We should have won both, IMHO.

I don't think the Tennessee loss in 2010-2011 was an upset, but the margin of defeat certainly was.

End of the day our coach sucks against good competition.

And he lets prime players like Nick King walk out the door.

Just fire him and pay a guy who can coach basketball $100k a yr if we have to keep paying this clown.

I really hoped people's desire to make "Paz" happen as a nickname had withered and died.

Teams that are usually favored have less opportunities for upset wins.

This is a tired theme and has been done before.

Saw the copied original post.

If you really want to make a point, take the number of upset losses against the number of times the team was favored...and vice versa.

If a team is favored in 30 games and gets upset twice as a point spread favorite...they would be 0-2 in in the above calculation...but really a more representative 28-2 as a favorite, while maybe going 1-4 as a dog.

Do that...and you have numbers to work with...which will certainly show that in this past season Memphis lost a few too many as the favorite.

Otherwise, the above raw numbers are worthless.

(03-29-2015 08:34 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Teams that are usually favored have less opportunities for upset wins.

This is a tired theme and has been done before.

Saw the copied original post.

If you really want to make a point, take the number of upset losses against the number of times the team was favored...and vice versa.

If a team is favored in 30 games and gets upset twice as a point spread favorite...they would be 0-2 in in the above calculation...but really a more representative 28-2 as a favorite, while maybe going 1-4 as a dog.

Do that...and you have numbers to work with...which will certainly show that in this past season Memphis lost a few too many as the favorite.

Otherwise, the above raw numbers are worthless.

Good point.

(03-30-2015 09:04 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-29-2015 08:34 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Teams that are usually favored have less opportunities for upset wins.

This is a tired theme and has been done before.

Saw the copied original post.

If you really want to make a point, take the number of upset losses against the number of times the team was favored...and vice versa.

If a team is favored in 30 games and gets upset twice as a point spread favorite...they would be 0-2 in in the above calculation...but really a more representative 28-2 as a favorite, while maybe going 1-4 as a dog.

Do that...and you have numbers to work with...which will certainly show that in this past season Memphis lost a few too many as the favorite.

Otherwise, the above raw numbers are worthless.

Good point.

Everything is an opinion including the lines set by the Vegas cartels.

My impressions are as valid as anyone elses and certainly subject to debate. However, the numbers are neither raw nor worthless.

I actually thought I was pretty generous and tried to err in favor of the Paz. Some people have put me on ignore because I hurt their feelings (I guess) and so are posting back-handed insults as usual. It's the same old tired 'dish it out but can't take it' person.

Someone please quote me in a reply so that he can see this, lol.

Basically Pastner is still good at beating bad teams and bad at beating good teams.

Give it a F****** break already!

What matters is 2 NCAA tournament wins in 6 years.

(03-30-2015 09:46 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Give it a F****** break already!

Don't open the F****** post then. It's not like the title left the contents as a mystery.

(03-30-2015 10:58 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-30-2015 09:46 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Give it a F****** break already!

Don't open the F****** post then. It's not like the title left the contents as a mystery.

I opened the thread to make a comment. That's how this works.

(03-30-2015 01:10 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(03-30-2015 10:58 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-30-2015 09:46 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Give it a F****** break already!

Don't open the F****** post then. It's not like the title left the contents as a mystery.

I opened the thread to make a comment. That's how this works.

So, how do you have the upset wins & losses then? Any to add on either side if the slate?

(03-29-2015 08:34 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Teams that are usually favored have less opportunities for upset wins.

This is a tired theme and has been done before.

Saw the copied original post.

If you really want to make a point, take the number of upset losses against the number of times the team was favored...and vice versa.

If a team is favored in 30 games and gets upset twice as a point spread favorite...they would be 0-2 in in the above calculation...but really a more representative 28-2 as a favorite, while maybe going 1-4 as a dog.

Do that...and you have numbers to work with...which will certainly show that in this past season Memphis lost a few too many as the favorite.

Otherwise, the above raw numbers are worthless.

U make a good point but our coach still sucks and loses homegrown studs like Tarik and King

Unacceptable

Too many lost players in such a short period

I get the notion of blaming the kids if they are knuckleheads but it's the HC who recruits. He should be smart enough to know who might quit on him

(03-30-2015 10:55 PM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  

(03-29-2015 08:34 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Teams that are usually favored have less opportunities for upset wins.

This is a tired theme and has been done before.

Saw the copied original post.

If you really want to make a point, take the number of upset losses against the number of times the team was favored...and vice versa.

If a team is favored in 30 games and gets upset twice as a point spread favorite...they would be 0-2 in in the above calculation...but really a more representative 28-2 as a favorite, while maybe going 1-4 as a dog.

Do that...and you have numbers to work with...which will certainly show that in this past season Memphis lost a few too many as the favorite.

Otherwise, the above raw numbers are worthless.

U make a good point but our coach still sucks and loses homegrown studs like Tarik and King

Unacceptable

Too many lost players in such a short period

I get the notion of blaming the kids if they are knuckleheads but it's the HC who recruits. He should be smart enough to know who might quit on him

Maybe high school studs but in college Tarik was good for about 18 mins a game before foul trouble would have him on the bench. Not a stud at Memphis or Kansas - an occasional good game at both. King certainly didn't show "stud" while at Memphis, can't defend the 3 position, can't move to his right, outside shot iffy. Showed to be a role D-1 player, much like Tarik, but stud not even close.

(03-30-2015 01:10 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(03-30-2015 10:58 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-30-2015 09:46 AM)Chi-Town Wrote:  Give it a F****** break already!

Don't open the F****** post then. It's not like the title left the contents as a mystery.

I opened the thread to make a comment. That's how this works.

Fail