(03-27-2015 03:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  At the very least, there were lots of games, where Pookie would have been a much better option at the 2 than Woodson or Markel. Disgusting how Pastner screwed Pookie.

Ain't it?

I don't have facts, but I vaguely remember he thought about transfer before leaving this year. No? Speculation - Pastner tells Pookie hey stick it out, you are going to be my guy next year. The man. Then gives him limited minutes the season he's supposed to be the man. Rumored - And then gives him the walking papers by not renewing his scholly (a transfer)?

We had a pg for 4 years straight. What did he do with him?

He had way more talent in that 4year stretch than he does now and all we need on this team is a pg?

There's more to the story. It may translate to more wins and maybe a tourney birth, but will a pg produce a better result in our overall finish? Unfortunately I don't think so.

And at this stage in recruiting he should have already signed one.

(03-27-2015 03:19 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

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(03-27-2015 03:15 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:10 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:05 PM)JTS Wrote:  As a young man, I knew if I was due a paddling in school the next day, I'd put on 4 - 5 extra pair of underware. If what you say is true, Pastner needs to invest heavily in Fruit of the Loom.

There aren't any program saving point guards out there.

Don't need a Derrick Rose, just a solid, quick and PURE PG.

From where?

The question that no one will answer.

In all fairness, someone is getting paid 2.65 to answer that question.

I don't care if he's getting $2. This stage in the game, where is he going to get a solid, sure thing PG?

@thecajasonsmith: Damn, Joe Jackson. Career-high 32 pts (13 of 17 FGs), career-high 16 assts, 5 stls, 3 rebs, 0 trnvrs for B'field 2nite in NBADL win #greatjoe

If KJ is a 2 ... never mind ...

(03-27-2015 03:24 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:19 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:15 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:15 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:10 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  Don't need a Derrick Rose, just a solid, quick and PURE PG.

From where?

The question that no one will answer.

In all fairness, someone is getting paid 2.65 to answer that question.

I don't care if he's getting $2. This stage in the game, where is he going to get a solid, sure thing PG?

IDK.. ask memphistiger15, he says guard help is on the way?

(03-27-2015 03:25 PM)steves Wrote:  If KJ is a 2 ... never mind ...

He's another Nick King.

(03-27-2015 03:27 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:24 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:19 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:15 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:15 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  From where?

The question that no one will answer.

In all fairness, someone is getting paid 2.65 to answer that question.

I don't care if he's getting $2. This stage in the game, where is he going to get a solid, sure thing PG?

IDK.. ask memphistiger15, he says guard help is on the way?

He's mocking Ramen noodle. Get in the dog whistle game bro.

(03-27-2015 03:23 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  At the very least, there were lots of games, where Pookie would have been a much better option at the 2 than Woodson or Markel. Disgusting how Pastner screwed Pookie.

Ain't it?

I don't have facts, but I vaguely remember he thought about transfer before leaving this year. No? Speculation - Pastner tells Pookie hey stick it out, you are going to be my guy next year. The man. Then gives him limited minutes the season he's supposed to be the man. Rumored - And then gives him the walking papers by not renewing his scholly (a transfer)?

I don't know what happened (if anything) behind the scenes, but on the surface, the end result is stinks in every way imaginable.

(03-27-2015 03:28 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:23 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  At the very least, there were lots of games, where Pookie would have been a much better option at the 2 than Woodson or Markel. Disgusting how Pastner screwed Pookie.

Ain't it?

I don't have facts, but I vaguely remember he thought about transfer before leaving this year. No? Speculation - Pastner tells Pookie hey stick it out, you are going to be my guy next year. The man. Then gives him limited minutes the season he's supposed to be the man. Rumored - And then gives him the walking papers by not renewing his scholly (a transfer)?

I don't know what happened (if anything) behind the scenes, but on the surface, the end result is stinks in every way imaginable.

I will miss his hair. He had good hair.

(03-27-2015 03:25 PM)steves Wrote:  If KJ is a 2 ... never mind ...

You can have your opinion, that's ok bro!

If we had any really good PGs on the line, we wouldn't know about it.
We be keeping it kind of quiet.

Lame spin better than no spin...

(03-27-2015 02:45 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  ...AND get his guys to defend, things could get better in a hurry...

Despite what most think (and what my eyes often tell me) Pastner's teams here have actually been pretty solid on D, by the numbers...haven't they? Maybe I misread some stats once...

(03-27-2015 03:10 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:05 PM)JTS Wrote:  As a young man, I knew if I was due a paddling in school the next day, I'd put on 4 - 5 extra pair of underware. If what you say is true, Pastner needs to invest heavily in Fruit of the Loom.

There aren't any program saving point guards out there.

Don't need a Derrick Rose, just a solid, quick and PURE PG.

That's capable of contributing, in a BIG way, to 8 -10 more wins next year? Really?

I'll hang up and listen...

(03-27-2015 03:28 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:27 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:24 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:19 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:15 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  The question that no one will answer.

In all fairness, someone is getting paid 2.65 to answer that question.

I don't care if he's getting $2. This stage in the game, where is he going to get a solid, sure thing PG?

IDK.. ask memphistiger15, he says guard help is on the way?

He's mocking Ramen noodle. Get in the dog whistle game bro.

I guess my thoughts are surely we can do better than what we have. KJ is so slow it changes the entire dynamic in our usual style of play on both ends. I think he maybe could help us with minutes at the 2, but him at PG is just killing us. I know some disagree, jmho.

(03-27-2015 03:46 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:28 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:27 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:24 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:19 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  In all fairness, someone is getting paid 2.65 to answer that question.

I don't care if he's getting $2. This stage in the game, where is he going to get a solid, sure thing PG?

IDK.. ask memphistiger15, he says guard help is on the way?

He's mocking Ramen noodle. Get in the dog whistle game bro.

I guess my thoughts are surely we can do better than what we have. KJ is so slow it changes the entire dynamic in our usual style of play on both ends. I think he maybe could help us with minutes at the 2, but him at PG is just killing us. I know some disagree, jmho.

I don't think he's a 2 at all. PG or bust for Kedren.

(03-27-2015 03:49 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:46 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:28 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:27 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:24 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  I don't care if he's getting $2. This stage in the game, where is he going to get a solid, sure thing PG?

IDK.. ask memphistiger15, he says guard help is on the way?

He's mocking Ramen noodle. Get in the dog whistle game bro.

I guess my thoughts are surely we can do better than what we have. KJ is so slow it changes the entire dynamic in our usual style of play on both ends. I think he maybe could help us with minutes at the 2, but him at PG is just killing us. I know some disagree, jmho.

I don't think he's a 2 at all. PG or bust for Kedren.

True.. and I did say maybe.

One season of overall sub par guard play- after several where it was really good.

Hardly destroyed, simply endured one season where especially early, the guard play struggled, and as it improved, unfortunately an already not great team lost its best player and finished eve outside the NIT.

Very likely that the guard play will be immensely improved out of the box next year...and team will see 5-7 game minimum win increase after 32 games.

But the conclusions, bullying (they love that even as they do it with it) and even more tired than before paff sent the coach's way cannot be stopped.

[quote='memphissince86' pid='11931076' dateline='1427487822']
We had a pg for 4 years straight. What did he do with him?

We went to four straight NCAA tournaments. We had two more tournament appearances and one more tournament win than the 4 years that Elliot Perry was here.

(03-27-2015 06:15 PM)Trapper John Wrote:  [quote='memphissince86' pid='11931076' dateline='1427487822']
We had a pg for 4 years straight. What did he do with him?

We went to four straight NCAA tournaments. We had two more tournament appearances and one more tournament win than the 4 years that Elliot Perry was here.

I guess there's that..