I havent watched them this year. Say KY is pretty good?

(03-27-2015 11:49 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  And Virginia in '83, UNLV in '91, Duke in '99, Illinois '05, UMass in '96 (granted, UK was about as good), Kentucky in '03, Kentucky in '10, etc... this is not the first really great college basketball team and the reality is that it's a best of 1, so all it takes is an off game and a really good game by someone else.

We're talking THIS YEAR fella.

(03-27-2015 01:11 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:17 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 10:25 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Not gonna happen.

Who do you think can beat them?

1. Wisconsin - They don't make hardly any mistakes so that's very possible
2. Arizona - They like up temp UK's hands so no
3. Duke - They'd get run off the floor, only go 8 deep and that's being generous
4. Cal - Agreed - See Memphis vs Mizzou 2009

I'm not seeing it, frankly I want to see an undefeated team, would only be the second time ever in my lifetime and I was only 4 last time it happened.

(03-27-2015 04:17 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:49 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  And Virginia in '83, UNLV in '91, Duke in '99, Illinois '05, UMass in '96 (granted, UK was about as good), Kentucky in '03, Kentucky in '10, etc... this is not the first really great college basketball team and the reality is that it's a best of 1, so all it takes is an off game and a really good game by someone else.

We're talking THIS YEAR fella.

And I'm talking about all those years where there was an "unbeatable" team.

It is a great team, but not amongst the greatest IMO. They're the beneficiary of a different mentality at the top of college basketball than there used to be.

If one and done wasn't the thing to do, this team wouldn't be together.

(03-27-2015 08:40 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  It is a great team, but not amongst the greatest IMO. They're the beneficiary of a different mentality at the top of college basketball than there used to be.

If one and done wasn't the thing to do, this team wouldn't be together.

The game at Florida wasn't such a good game for Kentucky. Other then late free throws to ice the game and shooting an amazing 21 for 21 for 95% from the free throw line, they were outplayed for the game.

The very next game saw them survive an LSU scare as well, winning by two points.

Even the rematch against Florida saw Kentucky struggle in the first half. The first half struggles and less then great offensive half court play could see them getting knocked off.

One team still left in the tournament that played Kentucky is Louisville. Louisville forced 18 Kentucky turnovers that game. This another potential vulnerability for Kentucky.

(03-27-2015 04:38 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 04:17 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:49 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  And Virginia in '83, UNLV in '91, Duke in '99, Illinois '05, UMass in '96 (granted, UK was about as good), Kentucky in '03, Kentucky in '10, etc... this is not the first really great college basketball team and the reality is that it's a best of 1, so all it takes is an off game and a really good game by someone else.

We're talking THIS YEAR fella.

And I'm talking about all those years where there was an "unbeatable" team.

Not sure any of those teams were ever considered unbeatable

UVA 83, UNLV 91, Duke 99 were "unbeatable" on the verge on iconic teams if they won. Do not think the same of the bolded teams if they had won.

05 If Illinois was considered unbeatable they would not have been 7.5 point dogs in the title game.

i didnt like college basketball when it was at least a watchable interesting game. if kentucky goes 40-0, i mean, who really gives a crap anymore. the sport will have bottomed out.

(03-27-2015 11:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 10:04 AM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  Where would they rank among the greatest teams of all time?

They have to be #1.

I don't think they're even close to #1, I think college basketball is down this year.

1981-82 North Carolina won a national title with Michael Jordan, James Worthy, and Sam Perkins

they won the national final against Georgetown with Patrick Ewing and Sleepy Floyd
they won the final four against Houston with Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Michael Young

I think UK has some great players, but I'll be surprised if they turn out a NBA duo as good as any of those three 82 final four teams

(03-27-2015 10:16 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  Even the rematch against Florida saw Kentucky struggle in the first half. The first half struggles and less then great offensive half court play could see them getting knocked off.

One team still left in the tournament that played Kentucky is Louisville. Louisville forced 18 Kentucky turnovers that game. This another potential vulnerability for Kentucky.

I agree - think Louisville would be their toughest matchup. Most of UK's rematches have been at least a little closer than the first game, and Louisville has National Title winning experience, of course Louisville is an underdog to just get there.

That UNC team was highly talented but they were a couple of close calls away from not being champions (yeah, yeah, yeah, coulda, shoulda, woulda). A raw Phi Slama Jama team nearly got 'em in the semis and they barely survived Georgetown.

(03-27-2015 11:23 PM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 10:04 AM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  Where would they rank among the greatest teams of all time?

They have to be #1.

I don't think they're even close to #1, I think college basketball is down this year.

1981-82 North Carolina won a national title with Michael Jordan, James Worthy, and Sam Perkins

they won the national final against Georgetown with Patrick Ewing and Sleepy Floyd
they won the final four against Houston with Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Michael Young

I think UK has some great players, but I'll be surprised if they turn out a NBA duo as good as any of those three 82 final four teams

College basketball isn't down this year, it has been down for about 15 years.

No, the real questions are:
1. How poor UK's APR scores will be as the entire team and Calipari head into the NBA?
2. How quickly the NCAA comes in to review the recruiting of the talent. I.E. to see if everyone took their own ACT's?

is it wierd that im getting a feeling they are about to get what happened to phi slamma jamma

a team considered one of the greatest in history and supposedly unbeatable strolls into the championship, to lose in some crazy heartbreaking fashion making history for the other team...

(03-28-2015 08:05 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:23 PM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 10:04 AM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  Where would they rank among the greatest teams of all time?

They have to be #1.

I don't think they're even close to #1, I think college basketball is down this year.

1981-82 North Carolina won a national title with Michael Jordan, James Worthy, and Sam Perkins

they won the national final against Georgetown with Patrick Ewing and Sleepy Floyd
they won the final four against Houston with Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Michael Young

I think UK has some great players, but I'll be surprised if they turn out a NBA duo as good as any of those three 82 final four teams

College basketball isn't down this year, it has been down for about 15 years.

07-08 was a pretty good year.

(03-28-2015 08:56 AM)pesik Wrote:  is it wierd that im getting a feeling they are about to get what happened to phi slamma jamma

a team considered one of the greatest in history and supposedly unbeatable strolls into the championship, to lose in some crazy heartbreaking fashion making history for the other team...

There's always hope.

(03-28-2015 09:13 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(03-28-2015 08:05 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:23 PM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 10:04 AM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  Where would they rank among the greatest teams of all time?

They have to be #1.

I don't think they're even close to #1, I think college basketball is down this year.

1981-82 North Carolina won a national title with Michael Jordan, James Worthy, and Sam Perkins

they won the national final against Georgetown with Patrick Ewing and Sleepy Floyd
they won the final four against Houston with Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Michael Young

I think UK has some great players, but I'll be surprised if they turn out a NBA duo as good as any of those three 82 final four teams

College basketball isn't down this year, it has been down for about 15 years.

07-08 was a pretty good year.

Sure some years are stronger than others, but it's a watered down product. It's the reason you can have Wichita Sts, Butlers, George Masons, and VCUs make the final 4.

Don't get me wrong, I like it this way but it actually gives the ECUs of the world an opportunity to breakthrough. We just haven't done jack#### with it.

(03-28-2015 08:05 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:23 PM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 10:04 AM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  Where would they rank among the greatest teams of all time?

They have to be #1.

I don't think they're even close to #1, I think college basketball is down this year.

1981-82 North Carolina won a national title with Michael Jordan, James Worthy, and Sam Perkins

they won the national final against Georgetown with Patrick Ewing and Sleepy Floyd
they won the final four against Houston with Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Michael Young

I think UK has some great players, but I'll be surprised if they turn out a NBA duo as good as any of those three 82 final four teams

College basketball isn't down this year, it has been down for about 15 years.

It happens when the best players are one and done or not playing at all. Imagine Kobe at UNC or LeBron at Ohio State.

(03-28-2015 08:56 AM)pesik Wrote:  is it wierd that im getting a feeling they are about to get what happened to phi slamma jamma

a team considered one of the greatest in history and supposedly unbeatable strolls into the championship, to lose in some crazy heartbreaking fashion making history for the other team...

Like I said before, there are a long list of teams that have seemed unbeatable that have fallen in this tournament.

(03-28-2015 10:29 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(03-28-2015 08:05 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:23 PM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 11:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 10:04 AM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  Where would they rank among the greatest teams of all time?

They have to be #1.

I don't think they're even close to #1, I think college basketball is down this year.

1981-82 North Carolina won a national title with Michael Jordan, James Worthy, and Sam Perkins

they won the national final against Georgetown with Patrick Ewing and Sleepy Floyd
they won the final four against Houston with Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Michael Young

I think UK has some great players, but I'll be surprised if they turn out a NBA duo as good as any of those three 82 final four teams

College basketball isn't down this year, it has been down for about 15 years.

It happens when the best players are one and done or not playing at all. Imagine Kobe at UNC or LeBron at Ohio State.

Look at UNC in 1994, they were they returned 4 starters and were defending national champions and had Jerry Stackhouse, Rasheed Wallace, and Jeff Mcinnis off the bench.