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RE: A way too early look at 2015/2016 Basketball season
(03-22-2015 09:21 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 09:07 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Bottom of the league needs to win non-conference games.

And the top of the league needs to win a lot more high profile non-conference games than they did this year.

In the preseason, our top six teams were 10-22 against Pomeroy Top 100 teams. Half of those 10 wins were against teams rated between 70 and 100 including two over low-profile UNC-Central.

You are correct, even though the bottom was horrific and must improve there were few big wins by the teams at the top that received national attention. The biggest was Temple beating Kansas outside of that one where there are any wins vs top 25?
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RE: A way too early look at 2015/2016 Basketball season
(03-22-2015 09:21 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 09:07 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Bottom of the league needs to win non-conference games.

And the top of the league needs to win a lot more high profile non-conference games than they did this year.

In the preseason, our top six teams were 10-22 against Pomeroy Top 100 teams. Half of those 10 wins were against teams rated between 70 and 100 including two over low-profile UNC-Central.

The top knows what needs to get done. The bottom has a hard time understanding it though
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RE: A way too early look at 2015/2016 Basketball season
What do you think? ... 1-7 against the top of the league and beat the krap out of everybody else. So mostly the former and throw in much better defense.

If the bottom of the league is on average better next year than it was this year, then yes - it will be difficult to execute a 2014-15 Temple like turnaround. You will be splitting those games against the bottom now and still get swept at the top.

But all that really matters is that everybody goes out and executes a decent non-conference schedule and record. Then these conference losses will be forgiven or atleast not be resume killers (see 2014-15 Big East, and every other P5 conference).

If everybody cooperates and things break the right way, we should be legitimately talking about 5-6 teams in or on the bubble next year with 4-5 getting in.



(03-22-2015 04:10 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 12:29 AM)TUowl06 Wrote:  While the rest of the league might have been young but they were horrific. Some will remain terrible while others will strive for mediocrity. I'll believe the real improvement when I see it.

So did Temple only improved this year (they were terrible last year) was because so many young AAC teams were horrific?

Or is it that Temple actually improve with the addition of some experienced transfers along with some quality depth....and no other AAC team can do that next year?

As someone else stated, it seems that some from the bottom of the conf this year will be back to full depth next year along with a huge additions of new talent...which should help them compete (maybe not improve that much in total wins in the conf, but will have the ability to compete at a much higher level).
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RE: A way too early look at 2015/2016 Basketball season
(03-22-2015 09:24 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 09:21 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 09:07 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Bottom of the league needs to win non-conference games.

And the top of the league needs to win a lot more high profile non-conference games than they did this year.

In the preseason, our top six teams were 10-22 against Pomeroy Top 100 teams. Half of those 10 wins were against teams rated between 70 and 100 including two over low-profile UNC-Central.

You are correct, even though the bottom was horrific and must improve there were few big wins by the teams at the top that received national attention. The biggest was Temple beating Kansas outside of that one where there are any wins vs top 25?

Absolutely correct. SMU wasn't going to win at Gonzaga, but needed to win at Indiana and Arkansas at home. Not having Markus first semester hurt our chances.
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RE: A way too early look at 2015/2016 Basketball season
(03-22-2015 01:19 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 01:11 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 12:23 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 12:12 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(03-21-2015 07:23 PM)JP Bearcat Wrote:  So it looks like the league was very, very young this year and pretty much everybody should be improved from what was a down year for the conference.

As I posted somewhere, only five of the Top 30 scorers in the league were seniors. And four of the Top 20 rebounders.

I don't know what's going on at Memphis, but I am bullish on next year.

What's going on at Memphis?

See Tiger Bill's post above. Sounds like some players could be transferring out, and the mob is ready to lynch Pastner. The recruiting class looks good, so there's that.
There are only two players transferring, Pookie and King. The other possibilities are Cunningham and Hawkins. All 4 were not major contributors this year. The core starting 5 is coming back along with our additions. AUSTIN NICHOLS ISNT TRANSFERING NO MATTER HOW MUCH LOCAL MEDIA WANTS TO STIR THAT POT. NICHOLS IS GOING TO BE HERE NEXT YEAR AND THATS A FACT FROM MULTIPLE CREDIBLE SOURCES.

This is awesome news! Who are they?
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(03-22-2015 12:42 AM)TUowl06 Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 12:38 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 12:29 AM)TUowl06 Wrote:  Pastner MUST get things turned around at Memphis and Dunphy MUST elevate Temple's program if the league is going to move forward next year.

I like what I see in UConn's younger players. They'll bounce back in a big way imo.

Tulsa needs to parlay all that returning experience into a Top 25 team. Exceed expectations!

Cincinnati will be there all year. I love their toughness and style.

While the rest of the league might have been young but they were horrific. Some will remain terrible while others will strive for mediocrity. I'll believe the real improvement when I see it.

Next year is so incredibly big for this league. I'm honestly nervous for Temple. I love Dunphy but can he really elevate us on a national level? It's tournament or bust imo....

The Pastner saga will be interesting. And don't forget Larry's meeting with the NCAA.

harsh evaluations from a temple fan

are we forgetting temple finished 9-22 just last season ... lets not act like major stides can't be made in 1 year

Temple had a recent track record of success so there was a legitimate reason to remain optimistic. That can't be said for the bottom of the AAC. Success has been spotty at best...

Like I said, if Temple is going to be relied on as one of the cornerstones of the league 2 straight non tourneys is not going to cut it. Neither is two tournament wins in 15 years.

Hopefully we kick butt in the NIT and ride that mojo into next fall!

NINE-TWENTY TWO

that's ridiculous...
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RE: A way too early look at 2015/2016 Basketball season
(03-22-2015 09:59 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 01:19 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 01:11 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 12:23 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 12:12 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  As I posted somewhere, only five of the Top 30 scorers in the league were seniors. And four of the Top 20 rebounders.

I don't know what's going on at Memphis, but I am bullish on next year.

What's going on at Memphis?

See Tiger Bill's post above. Sounds like some players could be transferring out, and the mob is ready to lynch Pastner. The recruiting class looks good, so there's that.
There are only two players transferring, Pookie and King. The other possibilities are Cunningham and Hawkins. All 4 were not major contributors this year. The core starting 5 is coming back along with our additions. AUSTIN NICHOLS ISNT TRANSFERING NO MATTER HOW MUCH LOCAL MEDIA WANTS TO STIR THAT POT. NICHOLS IS GOING TO BE HERE NEXT YEAR AND THATS A FACT FROM MULTIPLE CREDIBLE SOURCES.

This is awesome news! Who are they?

As long as Austin's pelvic region stays a big fan of a certain female student body on our campus, and he keeps getting all the PT and attention he wants...why leave?
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RE: A way too early look at 2015/2016 Basketball season
(03-22-2015 09:21 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 09:07 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Bottom of the league needs to win non-conference games.

And the top of the league needs to win a lot more high profile non-conference games than they did this year.

In the preseason, our top six teams were 10-22 against Pomeroy Top 100 teams. Half of those 10 wins were against teams rated between 70 and 100 including two over low-profile UNC-Central.

UNC-Central?

Do you mean NCCU?
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(03-22-2015 01:11 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 12:23 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
(03-22-2015 12:12 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(03-21-2015 07:23 PM)JP Bearcat Wrote:  So it looks like the league was very, very young this year and pretty much everybody should be improved from what was a down year for the conference.

As I posted somewhere, only five of the Top 30 scorers in the league were seniors. And four of the Top 20 rebounders.

I don't know what's going on at Memphis, but I am bullish on next year.

What's going on at Memphis?

See Tiger Bill's post above. Sounds like some players could be transferring out, and the mob is ready to lynch Pastner. The recruiting class looks good, so there's that.

There's your problem...looking to miserables for info...
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I'd like to have a situation where 3 or 4 of the bottom half teams would at least qualify for the NIT. I think if we could get games against Charlotte, Davidson, and teams like that AND someone the likes of VT or Clemson, we stand to have a decent SOS with some winnable games.
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(03-22-2015 10:27 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'd like to have a situation where 3 or 4 of the bottom half teams would at least qualify for the NIT. I think if we could get games against Charlotte, Davidson, and teams like that AND someone the likes of VT or Clemson, we stand to have a decent SOS with some winnable games.

I think that's a possible goal.
I would like to see
4 teams or more in the Dance every year
3 teams in NIT or more every year.
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If everyone takes care of business, I think 5 in the dance and 2 in the NIT is very doable for this league.
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Is UCONN going to be better, they relied so much on Boatwright.
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(03-22-2015 10:50 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  Is UCONN going to be better, they relied so much on Boatwright.

they have this guy replacing him http://sports.yahoo.com/cal/basketball/r...ams-143098

and in bball freshman come in ready to play unlike football

also the exact same statement has been made about uconn like numerous different times in recent years.. (kemba, Napier etc)

uconns system is heavily reliant on the guards, i don't think it was solely a boatright thing but the fact thats just how the uconn system is set up..and uconn has never had trouble finding guards
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Tulsa's problem this year was they could play with anybody for a half but they only played two good halves in one or two games. For Tulsa to be the team they can be next year they need to be more consistent from tip to final whistle and the coaches need to understand that these guys play best when going full throttle. We do not kill clock well. Hopefully our two sophomore-to-be players can get things to click and be contributors next year and out JUCO shooter can shoot. If those things happen I think we win the league next year, they don't and I think it's second or third for us. As others have said though OOC is what's really important. Need those quality wins.
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Getting 3 NIT for any conference is not as easy as it use to be. It is now down to 32 and with the one bid regular season champ assured a slot if they lose conference tournament. I do think the mininum goal should be 4 NCAA and two NIT top non power conferences.
The main problem is the drag by the bottom teams. I don't see that changing soon. The problem when a top AAC loses to one of these teams, perception is it the better team must be weaker. Not saying it is fair, but just how it is.
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(03-22-2015 11:09 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Getting 3 NIT for any conference is not as easy as it use to be. It is now down to 32 and with the one bid regular season champ assured a slot if they lose conference tournament. I do think the mininum goal should be 4 NCAA and two NIT top non power conferences.
The main problem is the drag by the bottom teams. I don't see that changing soon. The problem when a top AAC loses to one of these teams, perception is it the better team must be weaker. Not saying it is fair, but just how it is.

Really
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(03-22-2015 11:09 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Getting 3 NIT for any conference is not as easy as it use to be. It is now down to 32 and with the one bid regular season champ assured a slot if they lose conference tournament. I do think the mininum goal should be 4 NCAA and two NIT top non power conferences.
The main problem is the drag by the bottom teams. I don't see that changing soon. The problem when a top AAC loses to one of these teams, perception is it the better team must be weaker. Not saying it is fair, but just how it is.

i disagree half our problem is scheduling which can be easily fixed if everyone is committed

and everyone in bottom is dramtically recruiting better, some better than they ever have..
ucf is bring in a espn 100 player (their first ever), houston and usf are bringing in 4star players...even tulane their recruiting class doesnt have any 4 or 5 star guys but they have some highly rated 3star guys that if you look at their offer list turned down some power teams

also disagree with your other point, uconn lost to houston the year it won the national championship....no one held that over uconns head
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A way too early look at 2015/2016 Basketball season
(03-22-2015 09:36 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  
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(03-22-2015 09:07 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Bottom of the league needs to win non-conference games.

And the top of the league needs to win a lot more high profile non-conference games than they did this year.

In the preseason, our top six teams were 10-22 against Pomeroy Top 100 teams. Half of those 10 wins were against teams rated between 70 and 100 including two over low-profile UNC-Central.

The top knows what needs to get done. The bottom has a hard time understanding it though

The bottom doesn't have trouble understanding what needs to be done. Just a lot of trouble executing what needs to be done. I think UCF is heading in the right direction, at least I hope we are. But still a few years away from finishing in the top half.
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(03-21-2015 07:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  Since we've been eliminated from the tourney (i know we have some NIT teams left) but Just a general look at every team going into next year, ps obviously things will change between now then, early draft, quiting players, dismalls and the recruting season isnt over, obviously a 5star pick would obviuosly change a few opinions ..and its relative to where you are..aka i might say a good team might be worse and a bad team might improved..but i probably still think the good team is better

also i know nothing of transfers beyong UH and dont know a database for that (so add your schools tranfers in the responses)

in order of finish this year

Southern Methodist: around the same or slightly worse, but not by much
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with the return of the AAC player of the year moore and star big kennedy look for smu not to lose much of a step next year, they add a espn 100 PG and 2 other solid 3stars, but they also lose a ton of role players. Smu still has 3 scholarships to give so look for them to target some bigs in transfers or recruits

Tulsa: Improved
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Tulsa doesnt graduate a single player on the roster. and the players should be much more comfortable in their coaches system year 2 ..recruits arent very touted but thats probably more a concern for the 2017 season...a much improved OOC schedule could have tulsa a tourney team next year

Temple: around the same..maybe
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Temple will take a Huge loss with the graduation of Will Cummings & Jesse Morgan but temple brings in 3 4star players including a espn 100 player ... you never know with freshmen but temple on paper has found suitable replacements and have a proven head coach

Cincinnati: Much Improved
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The Entire starting lineup returns, and then add 2 4star recruits and a highly rated 3 star, their coach returns aswell, look for next season to be a good year for the bearcats

Uconn: Improved

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they lose only 1 significant player unfortunatly for them it was there best player in boatright, but they bring in the highest rated recruit in the league as his replacement aswell as a second espn 100 recruit ...the huskies also seem to be targeting a 3rd recruit to bring in...(and are a finalist for a 5star top 10 recruit, most are thinking he lands in wisconsin but has uconn second behind that)

Memphis: Dramatically improved

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they only lose 1 player on the roster and add the lawson brothers who are both consesus top 50 recruits and dedric considered a 5star by 247


Tulane: about the same
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they lose 2 starters only 1 being significant. their recruting class doesnt look great compared to the rest of the leagues but this could arguably be their best recruiting class in ages .. in respect to how good they are they should be around there again next year


ECU: Improved

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returns all the key players and starters from this season and their 2 best players just joined the team this year so look for better chemistry from them. as far as what they were this year look for them to be much better than that next year


UCF: a bit improved or the most improved in the league

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Obviously talking about the giant that is 7'6 tacko joining the knights, who may or may not be a game changer, even beyond tacko, ucf only loses 1 significant player on its roster and has put togeter its best 2 recruting classes in history this year and last.. with ucf's best players true freshmen and the addidtion of more talent next year, look for ucf to be improved to some degree next year

Houston: Much Improved

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Houston doesnt lose a single significant player, adds a former espn 100 transfer, a 4star recruit recruit and 2 decently rated 3 stars, look for major improvements from the coogs on the second year of kelvin sampson as coach of the coogs

USF: Much improved

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usf losses its best player in corey allen but doesnt lose any other players on its roster, but USF has 3 4star players commited (tho one is rumored to be be differing to the 2016 class) and according to 247 are favorites to land another 4 star JC recruit. they also have a former 4/5star maryland player transfering in who is eligible next season. so look for the bulls to be dramatically improved from what it was next year under year 2 of its new coach


Finale: i dont see any teams being worse next year, the teams that could be worse are the situation where recruits dont live up to the hype..
i dont think we have any draft touted underclassmen that would enter the draft but you never know
and there are about 15-20 touted 4-5 star recruits still out there maybe we land a few more in the league


Excellent work. Thank you.
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