Ball State announced today that the Cardinal football team will play Notre Dame for the first time ever on Sept 8, 2018. It's something they have have been working on for many, many years.

Future schedules for the Cardinals include notable games this year with Texas A&M and Northwestern, Indiana in 2016, Illinois in 2017, Notre Dame in 20018, North Carolina State in 2019, and Michigan in 2020.

(03-16-2015 02:12 PM)LongtimeFan Wrote:  Ball State announced today that the Cardinal football team will play Notre Dame for the first time ever on Sept 8, 2018. It's something they have have been working on for many, many years.

Future schedules for the Cardinals include notable games this year with Texas A&M and Northwestern, Indiana in 2016, Illinois in 2017, Notre Dame in 20018, North Carolina State in 2019, and Michigan in 2020.

That's awesome. The Irish have only played Indiana once since the 1950s (1991).

Goodness knows they would not want to play a team like UM or MSU


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(03-16-2015 06:00 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Goodness knows they would not want to play a team like UM or MSU


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I can see them lining up MSU but UM is probably going to be avoided. They really don't like UM on a personal level.

(03-16-2015 07:20 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 06:00 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Goodness knows they would not want to play a team like UM or MSU


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I can see them lining up MSU but UM is probably going to be avoided. They really don't like UM on a personal level.

Notre Dame should always play Michigan State, but I have no problem with the Irish refusing to schedule the Wolverines. Throughout their history, Michigan has been nothing but self-righteous jerks to Notre Dame.

(03-19-2015 11:59 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 07:20 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 06:00 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Goodness knows they would not want to play a team like UM or MSU


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I can see them lining up MSU but UM is probably going to be avoided. They really don't like UM on a personal level.

Notre Dame should always play Michigan State, but I have no problem with the Irish refusing to schedule the Wolverines. Throughout their history, Michigan has been nothing but self-righteous jerks to Notre Dame.

Wait, what? Notre Dame complaining about another school being self-righteous jerks?

Any of those home games?

(03-19-2015 11:59 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 07:20 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 06:00 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Goodness knows they would not want to play a team like UM or MSU


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I can see them lining up MSU but UM is probably going to be avoided. They really don't like UM on a personal level.

Notre Dame should always play Michigan State, but I have no problem with the Irish refusing to schedule the Wolverines. Throughout their history, Michigan has been nothing but self-righteous jerks to Notre Dame.

Wait what?? Notre Dame was the school that backed out of that contract. I would love to hear this reasoning.

(03-20-2015 12:03 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(03-19-2015 11:59 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 07:20 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 06:00 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Goodness knows they would not want to play a team like UM or MSU


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I can see them lining up MSU but UM is probably going to be avoided. They really don't like UM on a personal level.

Notre Dame should always play Michigan State, but I have no problem with the Irish refusing to schedule the Wolverines. Throughout their history, Michigan has been nothing but self-righteous jerks to Notre Dame.

Wait what?? Notre Dame was the school that backed out of that contract. I would love to hear this reasoning.

In Notre Dame's early growing years, Michigan tried to crush the Irish's football building by refusing to play them and block their attempts to join the BIG 10. It took all of Rockne's charm to schedule games with some BIG 10 teams like Minnesota and Wisconsin (the dregs of NW, Indiana, and Purdue were easy to sign). It took Layden's charisma to convince Illinois, Ohio State and Michigan to schedule the Irish.

The Irish, quite rightly, realizes that they already own major popularity in the Midwest and since recruitment streams are drying up in the heartland, the Irish instead of helping Purdue and Michigan with games can schedule SEC teams for Southern recruiting pipelines. TerryD knows more about than I do. It is sound strategy, why play schools that have despised you for decades? That being said, MSU and ND have an amiable relationship which should be continued for the sake of the sport.

(03-20-2015 12:45 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  the Irish instead of helping Purdue and Michigan with games can schedule SEC teams for Southern recruiting pipelines.

Notre Dame joined the ACC in all sports except football and agreed to schedule five ACC teams per season in football.

The only future SEC opponents on Notre Dame's upcoming schedules over the next decade are Georgia (in 2017 and 2019) and Texas A&M (in 2024 and 2025). The Irish will play as many MAC opponents (UMass this fall; BSU in 2018) as SEC opponents in the next 10 years.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/indep/no...-irish.php

(03-23-2015 12:06 AM)The Colonel Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 12:45 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  the Irish instead of helping Purdue and Michigan with games can schedule SEC teams for Southern recruiting pipelines.

Notre Dame joined the ACC in all sports except football and agreed to schedule five ACC teams per season in football.

The only future SEC opponents on Notre Dame's upcoming schedules over the next decade are Georgia (in 2017 and 2019) and Texas A&M (in 2024 and 2025). The Irish will play as many MAC opponents (UMass this fall; BSU in 2018) as SEC opponents in the next 10 years.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/indep/no...-irish.php

Plus Miami in 2017. Not surprising given Martin's connections.

Thanks for catching that, L&H. Make that 3 MAC opponents and 2 SEC opponents for ND over the next decade.

(03-23-2015 12:06 AM)The Colonel Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 12:45 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  the Irish instead of helping Purdue and Michigan with games can schedule SEC teams for Southern recruiting pipelines.

Notre Dame joined the ACC in all sports except football and agreed to schedule five ACC teams per season in football.

The only future SEC opponents on Notre Dame's upcoming schedules over the next decade are Georgia (in 2017 and 2019) and Texas A&M (in 2024 and 2025). The Irish will play as many MAC opponents (UMass this fall; BSU in 2018) as SEC opponents in the next 10 years.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/indep/no...-irish.php

I knew that, but thanks.

The ACC deal will allow for southern games and traditional rivals.

At the end of the day, my point still stands. Notre Dame is heading south to the oilfields of prospects. The MAC schools are probably scheduled as cupcake games and a Midwestern alternate to the big, arrogant conference. It is a good deal for the MAC and I am excited for you guys!

I only wish Army and Notre Dame would resume our yearly war. Notre Dame-Army used to be the biggest rivalry in college football.

(03-24-2015 12:15 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 12:06 AM)The Colonel Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 12:45 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  the Irish instead of helping Purdue and Michigan with games can schedule SEC teams for Southern recruiting pipelines.

Notre Dame joined the ACC in all sports except football and agreed to schedule five ACC teams per season in football.

The only future SEC opponents on Notre Dame's upcoming schedules over the next decade are Georgia (in 2017 and 2019) and Texas A&M (in 2024 and 2025). The Irish will play as many MAC opponents (UMass this fall; BSU in 2018) as SEC opponents in the next 10 years.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/indep/no...-irish.php

I knew that, but thanks.

The ACC deal will allow for southern games and traditional rivals.

At the end of the day, my point still stands. Notre Dame is heading south to the oilfields of prospects. The MAC schools are probably scheduled as cupcake games and a Midwestern alternate to the big, arrogant conference. It is a good deal for the MAC and I am excited for you guys!

I only wish Army and Notre Dame would resume our yearly war. Notre Dame-Army used to be the biggest rivalry in college football.

Bigger than Army/Navy or Navy/Notre Dame? I would think that traditionally Navy is more important to both Army and Notre Dame due to history. Unless you are speaking of a very narrow time and perhaps not to the fan bases of those schools unless I am missing something?

Not saying you are wrong just that i am fairly surprised from what I have seen older Notre Dame fans talk it always seemed that Navy is the most important of the service academies and I would think that Army/Navy would certainly be THE game for Army as well.

I just have a hard time with the concept of TSISB thinking some OTHER school is arrogant. It's pretty funny, actually.

(03-24-2015 07:32 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 12:15 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 12:06 AM)The Colonel Wrote:  

(03-20-2015 12:45 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  the Irish instead of helping Purdue and Michigan with games can schedule SEC teams for Southern recruiting pipelines.

Notre Dame joined the ACC in all sports except football and agreed to schedule five ACC teams per season in football.

The only future SEC opponents on Notre Dame's upcoming schedules over the next decade are Georgia (in 2017 and 2019) and Texas A&M (in 2024 and 2025). The Irish will play as many MAC opponents (UMass this fall; BSU in 2018) as SEC opponents in the next 10 years.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/indep/no...-irish.php

I knew that, but thanks.

The ACC deal will allow for southern games and traditional rivals.

At the end of the day, my point still stands. Notre Dame is heading south to the oilfields of prospects. The MAC schools are probably scheduled as cupcake games and a Midwestern alternate to the big, arrogant conference. It is a good deal for the MAC and I am excited for you guys!

I only wish Army and Notre Dame would resume our yearly war. Notre Dame-Army used to be the biggest rivalry in college football.

Bigger than Army/Navy or Navy/Notre Dame? I would think that traditionally Navy is more important to both Army and Notre Dame due to history. Unless you are speaking of a very narrow time and perhaps not to the fan bases of those schools unless I am missing something?

Not saying you are wrong just that i am fairly surprised from what I have seen older Notre Dame fans talk it always seemed that Navy is the most important of the service academies and I would think that Army/Navy would certainly be THE game for Army as well.

I should have talked in specific terms, instead of generalities, My apologies, sometimes I forget not everyone knows (and I shouldn't expect everyone to know) about Army football history. Army-Notre Dame in the 1920's was a huge public spectacle, it was the biggest game in New York City, when the Big Apple loved college football. The rivalry subsided slightly when Rockne died and Army's fortunes started to slip in the late 1930's, but with the hiring of Blaik and Leahy, a renewal existed throughout the mid 1940's until all the hoopla from the "Game of the Century" led to the end of a yearly series due to the hyper commercialization.

The Army/Navy at the game was still a huge rivalry and game. The 1926 edition played in Chicago in front of 120,000-140,000 decided the national championship. However, in the late 1920's Navy stopped scheduling Army due to West Point's recruitment of graduated All-Americans from other schools. Army would offer those players a chance to play 3-4 more years of college football. We had such stars as Daly (Harvard and our coach who won two titles in 1914-1916), Cagle (Southwestern Louisiana), "Light Horse" Harry Wilson (Penn State), and one of my username honoree Oliphant (Purdue). This blockade of play went on for a couple of years, as far as I recall FDR was responsible for the stoppage of our recruitment (another reason I dislike him outside of his policies). After we couldn't recruit stars, we fell from the ranks of titans until Blaik arrived.

Most, if all, fans of those days are dead and Navy's salvation of Notre Dame during World War 2 has certainly earned its place as the most important academy to the Irish. But there was a time when the Cadets and Irish ruled college football. There was a time.

I hope this helps!

I thought the Game of the Century was Army-Navy in 1945, when they were ranked #1 and #2...

The Army-Navy game has been played more than any other rivalry, missing only 7 years since 1890 (1894-1898, 1928 and 1929), but has been played yearly without interruption since 1930 (85 years).

(03-25-2015 01:57 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  I thought the Game of the Century was Army-Navy in 1945, when they were ranked #1 and #2...

The Army-Navy game has been played more than any other rivalry, missing only 7 years since 1890 (1894-1898, 1928 and 1929), but has been played yearly without interruption since 1930 (85 years).

There have been multiple games of the century since the term was invented in 1935 for Ohio State-Notre Dame. In fact, several weeks later the term was reissued for the undefeated southwest showdown between SMU-TCU.

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(03-19-2015 11:59 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

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(03-16-2015 06:00 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Goodness knows they would not want to play a team like UM or MSU


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I can see them lining up MSU but UM is probably going to be avoided. They really don't like UM on a personal level.

Notre Dame should always play Michigan State, but I have no problem with the Irish refusing to schedule the Wolverines. Throughout their history, Michigan has been nothing but self-righteous jerks to Notre Dame.

Wait what?? Notre Dame was the school that backed out of that contract. I would love to hear this reasoning.

It was scUM that wanted a break. They asked ND first but both AD's could not get the scheduling to work out. The 9 game P1G schedule for scUM and the 5 game ACC schedule for ND made it difficult to schedule. Realize this, scUM will only play 1 OOC game on the road every other year with the way things are set up for the near future.