(03-18-2015 11:41 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 10:12 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-17-2015 08:58 PM)Siborg Wrote:  BG won without Holmes and Dickerson. Not sure why either missed the game.

Holmes is still experiencing issues after his fall in the Buffalo game. It was pretty evident by his second half performance against EMU that he was still not right. The medical staff would not clear him to play and he stayed in BG. His status for the next game is still unknown.

Dickerson has apparently been battling a severe knee issue all year and has just played through it. Hopefully he will be back for the next game. Rumors are that he will address it in the off season. I read that as surgery, but that's just random speculation.

How was it very evident in the 2nd half of the EMU game? Your guards stopped giving him the ball, even though he had high post position on nearly every possession. It was mind-boggling. He killed us in the first half, but your players settled for outside jumpers in the 2nd. Pretty sure the espn3 commentator mentioned something about it. Baffling gameplan from Jans in that 2nd half.

I definitely agree with you that that wasn't a shining moment for Jans. Not fouling and losing close to 40 seconds in the final minute when they were down by 4 was inexcusable.

I guess I'm just assuming that they didn't get him the ball because he wasn't feeling right. Head injuries are tough. There is no other reason not to get the ball to your best players if he's right. I didn't mean to imply that Holmes played poorly if I gave that impression.

The MAC complains about being a one-bid league then their regular-season champion bows out in the first round of the NIT. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of solid programs out there, including LA Tech, but we've got to beat these guys.

There was a 3-way tie for regular season champ. The MAC's "problem" this year was too much balance at the top with no standout team. It's not a good formula for post-season success where it's all about having a dominant team, even if from an overall weaker conference.

Broncos putting on a stink show to close out the underwhelming season.

Kent State wins and advances. The MAC is 2-2 in tournaments so far and EMU is down 7 at half time.

EMU goes on a 19-0 run (seriously, 19-0) and leads 63-62 with less than 3:00 left in the game.

EMU down 3 with :06 left.

71-67 final. EMU gone.

MAC with 3/6 teams left. UB next up.

The problem is 20 wins doesn't make you good. EMU and WMU shouldn't have been in the postseason. Sending your #6 and #8 seeds to postseason tourneys is a recipe to look bad. And we look bad as a conference. WMU was humiliated at home and while EMU fought, they just aren't that good. This isn't like bowl games where the more teams we send the higher the conference payout. The MAC, for reputation purposes shouldn't allow more than 5 teams to go to the postseason. I know that's a random number pulled out of my butt, however, I don't see more being better.

(03-18-2015 10:54 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  The problem is 20 wins doesn't make you good. EMU and WMU shouldn't have been in the postseason. Sending your #6 and #8 seeds to postseason tourneys is a recipe to look bad. And we look bad as a conference. WMU was humiliated at home and while EMU fought, they just aren't that good. This isn't like bowl games where the more teams we send the higher the conference payout. The MAC, for reputation purposes shouldn't allow more than 5 teams to go to the postseason. I know that's a random number pulled out of my butt, however, I don't see more being better.

last year's CBI winner was 15-17 with an RPI of 183. Nobody cares if a team goes 1 and done in these tournaments. People don't think the MAC looks bad because our #6 and #8 teams lost in the first round of a meaningless tournament, they think the MAC looks bad because the #2 team didn't get an at large bid to the NCAA.

You're worrying about stuff nobody cares about.

#62 Illinois State is a 4-seed in the NIT.

(03-19-2015 12:20 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(03-18-2015 10:54 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  The problem is 20 wins doesn't make you good. EMU and WMU shouldn't have been in the postseason. Sending your #6 and #8 seeds to postseason tourneys is a recipe to look bad. And we look bad as a conference. WMU was humiliated at home and while EMU fought, they just aren't that good. This isn't like bowl games where the more teams we send the higher the conference payout. The MAC, for reputation purposes shouldn't allow more than 5 teams to go to the postseason. I know that's a random number pulled out of my butt, however, I don't see more being better.

last year's CBI winner was 15-17 with an RPI of 183. Nobody cares if a team goes 1 and done in these tournaments. People don't think the MAC looks bad because our #6 and #8 teams lost in the first round of a meaningless tournament, they think the MAC looks bad because the #2 team didn't get an at large bid to the NCAA.

You're worrying about stuff nobody cares about.

Maybe you are right and maybe I am right. I say if 6 MAC teams go to postseason tourneys and 4/6 lose in their first game they say, "they didn't deserve 2 bids to the dance." Especially when 1 of those losses was at home by > 30 points. And to back it up, the runner-up of our league tourney lost their 1st post season game too. You say nobody cares, but if we perform well, people take notice. When you look like ISH people recognize you look like ISH.

Mostly agree with Perimeter here.....what matters is how your NCAA team does, and to a lesser degree your NIT team (s)....the NIT only matters if you make a deep run in the tourney and get some TV time and press. The other tournaments are kind of a joke. Best thing for MAC reputation is for Bufffalo to make the sweet 16.

Lots of people calling other tournaments a joke and lots of people criticizing Toledo for not participating in the joke. Hmmmmm..

(03-19-2015 09:58 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Lots of people calling other tournaments a joke and lots of people criticizing Toledo for not participating in the joke. Hmmmmm..

According to the UT fans, the players quit. So Toledo is the joke because they are quitters.

(03-19-2015 08:44 AM)exCincy Kid1 Wrote:  Mostly agree with Perimeter here.....what matters is how your NCAA team does, and to a lesser degree your NIT team (s)....the NIT only matters if you make a deep run in the tourney and get some TV time and press. The other tournaments are kind of a joke. Best thing for MAC reputation is for Bufffalo to make the sweet 16.

There is no doubt about the above statement. What I am saying is if several MAC teams make deep runs in their respective sh!!ty tournaments, people will say, the MAC must have been pretty good this year. Consequently, if you have teams like WMU getting drilled you aren't doing your league any favors.

(03-19-2015 09:58 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Lots of people calling other tournaments a joke and lots of people criticizing Toledo for not participating in the joke. Hmmmmm..

They're just anti-Toledo. But who can blame them?

My comments were directed at what are best for the MAC's reputation as a whole in terms of post season tournament outcomes, not individual teams (e.g. UT decison not to play post season). I have no issue at all with UT deciding not to play in a tournament outside of the NCAA and NIT.

(03-19-2015 03:08 PM)exCincy Kid1 Wrote:  My comments were directed at what are best for the MAC's reputation as a whole in terms of post season tournament outcomes, not individual teams (e.g. UT decison not to play post season). I have no issue at all with UT deciding not to play in a tournament outside of the NCAA and NIT.

Wasn't you. More like people who pull numbers out of their butts.