(03-27-2015 08:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Honestly I'm not trying to be rude, but why is Aresco even pursuing this bowl game for the AAC?!?

If they believe the AAC's west division can fill the slot for this bowl game, I hope Houston doesn't signup for this thing, I rather our team remains home instead.

We are not turning down a bowl. The 16 extra practices alone are worth going to a bowl.


This is about geography. We just picked up the Cure Bowl in Florida. All the bowl slots are in east. I think we have a total of 6 bowl slots over a six year period that are west of the Mississippi. That's one slot a year for 5 western teams. This year, we have none. Birmingham is the only drivable bowl for Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and Tulane.

The reality is, our fanbases are more likely to travel to a bowl they can drive to in less than 8 hours. Its about 10 hours to Birmingham. Its about 7 hours to Little Rock. Its about 4 hours to Ft Worth. Its about 14 hours to Orlando (more to the rest of the AAC bowls). Even though Orlando is much nicer, we'll have more fans travel to these closer bowls. It is what it is. If its terrible, next bowl cycle we need to swap it for the NOLA Bowl.

FWIW----Im told the groups expected to plan the bowl events in Little Rock are very creative and are working hard to make the event a fun time for the team and the fans. They want to create an atmosphere that people will want to return to.

Is it going to be the Rose Bowl? Obviously not. That said, a small bowl in relatively small city is a huge deal for that town. You may find that Little Rock is really excited to have you as guest. Some big cities barely notice some of these small bowls are happening. Seeing your fans wearing team gear and taking over a small downtown entertainment district like Little Rock's may end up being more fun that you might think. Just saying, it might not be as bad as you expect.

(03-27-2015 09:38 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 09:07 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 08:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Honestly I'm not trying to be rude, but why is Aresco even pursuing this bowl game for the AAC?!?

If they believe the AAC's west division can fill the slot for this bowl game, I hope Houston doesn't signup for this thing, I rather our team remains home instead.

come on biggie?? Who wants to miss a chance at going to Little Rock in December for a bowl game? Your nuts! This game will be the event of the year in Arkansas!!!!

Sorry but the opponent is not what I want for Houston.

in all honesty though, Tulsa/SMU/Houston vs Arky St in Little Rock in December would bring a pretty good crowd. Might even sell out....Arky St fans are pretty loyal

(03-27-2015 09:38 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 09:07 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 08:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Honestly I'm not trying to be rude, but why is Aresco even pursuing this bowl game for the AAC?!?

If they believe the AAC's west division can fill the slot for this bowl game, I hope Houston doesn't signup for this thing, I rather our team remains home instead.

come on biggie?? Who wants to miss a chance at going to Little Rock in December for a bowl game? Your nuts! This game will be the event of the year in Arkansas!!!!

Sorry but the opponent is not what I want for Houston.

Well, I guess it would be kind of strange for you guys. You'd be playing a potential road game against an SBC team that would fully expect to beat you, yet nationally, if the SBC team won, it might look bad to the average idiot College Football fan who doesn't know anything about teams not in the SEC.

We've had this discussion before in this thread. The AAC needs a Western Bowl game to appeal to it's membership West of the Mississippi River. Unfortunately, the SBC and the MAC are the only leagues needing to create a new game right now, and location wise, Little Rock would never sign on if the SBC wasn't involved, because the entire point of the game is to give Arkansas State an instate bowl game, and bring a potential sell out crowd into play.

Now, sure, you guys could try and steal a bowl from an existing league, but those bowls are already tied into contracts right now, so it might be a few years before it could happen.

When you need to create a new bowl to get a game, your chances of finding the ideal conference and the ideal opponent are slim.

(03-27-2015 09:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 08:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Honestly I'm not trying to be rude, but why is Aresco even pursuing this bowl game for the AAC?!?

If they believe the AAC's west division can fill the slot for this bowl game, I hope Houston doesn't signup for this thing, I rather our team remains home instead.

We are not turning down a bowl. The 16 extra practices alone are worth going to a bowl.


This is about geography. We just picked up the Cure Bowl in Florida. All the bowl slots are in east. I think we have a total of 6 bowl slots over a six year period that are west of the Mississippi. That's one slot a year for 5 western teams. This year, we have none. Birmingham is the only drivable bowl for Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and Tulane.

The reality is, our fanbases are more likely to travel to a bowl they can drive to in less than 8 hours. Its about 10 hours to Birmingham. Its about 7 hours to Little Rock. Its about 4 hours to Ft Worth. Its about 14 hours to Orlando (more to the rest of the AAC bowls). Even though Orlando is much nicer, we'll have more fans travel to these closer bowls. It is what it is. If its terrible, next bowl cycle we need to swap it for the NOLA Bowl.

FWIW----Im told the groups expected to plan the bowl events in Little Rock are very creative and are working hard to make the event a fun time for the team and the fans. They want to create an atmosphere that people will want to return to.

Is it going to be the Rose Bowl? Obviously not. That said, a small bowl in relatively small city is a huge deal for that town. You may find that Little Rock is really excited to have you as guest. Some big cities barely notice some of these small bowls are happening. Seeing your fans wearing team gear and taking over a small downtown entertainment district like Little Rock's may end up being more fun that you might think. Just saying, it might not be as bad as you expect.

One thing to keep in mind is that Arkansas State is one of the schools working to actually create the game. That means, you're dealing with people who have traveled to Mobile in the last few years and seen how Mobile puts on a game (They are considered one of the best atmospheres for a small school bowl, sell out every season) Ultimately, that is a big advantage for Little Rock in the end. If they can get the city behind the game...and bring in the right SBC opponent, you've got something going.

Lets be honest, Arkansas State vs an SMU, Memphis, or Tulsa in that game would bring at least 45-50K into town. That would be insane tourism for a town that doesn't get a ton of tourism during the year.

The Inaugural Little Rock Cheese Doodle Bowl

UCONN vs Idaho.

One more thing---this is not a done deal. It needs a TV contract. There is a LRB thread on the Sunbelt Board that discusses the bowl. They way I understand it, the bowl needs to have the TV contract in the next few days if it's going to make the deadline to start up this season.

(03-28-2015 12:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 09:38 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 09:07 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 08:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Honestly I'm not trying to be rude, but why is Aresco even pursuing this bowl game for the AAC?!?

If they believe the AAC's west division can fill the slot for this bowl game, I hope Houston doesn't signup for this thing, I rather our team remains home instead.

come on biggie?? Who wants to miss a chance at going to Little Rock in December for a bowl game? Your nuts! This game will be the event of the year in Arkansas!!!!

Sorry but the opponent is not what I want for Houston.

Well, I guess it would be kind of strange for you guys. You'd be playing a potential road game against an SBC team that would fully expect to beat you, yet nationally, if the SBC team won, it might look bad to the average idiot College Football fan who doesn't know anything about teams not in the SEC.

We've had this discussion before in this thread. The AAC needs a Western Bowl game to appeal to it's membership West of the Mississippi River. Unfortunately, the SBC and the MAC are the only leagues needing to create a new game right now, and location wise, Little Rock would never sign on if the SBC wasn't involved, because the entire point of the game is to give Arkansas State an instate bowl game, and bring a potential sell out crowd into play.

Now, sure, you guys could try and steal a bowl from an existing league, but those bowls are already tied into contracts right now, so it might be a few years before it could happen.

When you need to create a new bowl to get a game, your chances of finding the ideal conference and the ideal opponent are slim.

Lol

Noodles got banned?

Sorta makes the ignore feature like wearing a belt and suspenders at the same time.

Is it a temporary "sit in the corner" ban or are we talking Bearcat Bounce level of banning?

(03-28-2015 01:02 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  One more thing---this is not a some deal. It needs a TV contract. There is a LRB thread on the Sunbelt Board that discusses the bowl. They way I understand it, the bowl needs to have the TV contract in the next few days if it's going to make the deadline to start up this season.

Figuring if CBSSports is doing the Cure Bowl, they probably would be interested in this bowl. Also, NBCsport of FS1 might be willing to get this bowl to get into the bowl business.

(03-28-2015 08:40 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(03-28-2015 01:02 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  One more thing---this is not a some deal. It needs a TV contract. There is a LRB thread on the Sunbelt Board that discusses the bowl. They way I understand it, the bowl needs to have the TV contract in the next few days if it's going to make the deadline to start up this season.

I
Figuring if CBSSports is doing the Cure Bowl, they probably would be interested in this bowl. Also, NBCsport of FS1 might be willing to get this bowl to get into the bowl business.

With all the new bowls that came on line a few years ago, I was very surprised that someone like Fox or NBC made no real attempt to grab some bowl rights. As cheap as CBS-Sports is, I'm surprised they were the only onto seize that opportunity.

(03-28-2015 08:02 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Is it a temporary "sit in the corner" ban or are we talking Bearcat Bounce level of banning?

Ramen IS Bearcat Bounce. And Cali Cat, and Kobe...

(03-28-2015 09:20 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-28-2015 08:40 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(03-28-2015 01:02 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  One more thing---this is not a some deal. It needs a TV contract. There is a LRB thread on the Sunbelt Board that discusses the bowl. They way I understand it, the bowl needs to have the TV contract in the next few days if it's going to make the deadline to start up this season.

I
Figuring if CBSSports is doing the Cure Bowl, they probably would be interested in this bowl. Also, NBCsport of FS1 might be willing to get this bowl to get into the bowl business.

With all the new bowls that came on line a few years ago, I was very surprised that someone like Fox or NBC made no real attempt to grab some bowl rights. As cheap as CBS-Sports is, I'm surprised they were the only onto seize that opportunity.

Is the cure bowl on cbs sports network a 100% done deal?

(03-28-2015 08:02 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Is it a temporary "sit in the corner" ban or are we talking Bearcat Bounce level of banning?

All we know is you're next.

(03-28-2015 03:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-28-2015 08:02 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Is it a temporary "sit in the corner" ban or are we talking Bearcat Bounce level of banning?

All we know is you're next.

you can't ban me...if I'm gone the sunshine homerism in this place will spread like algae. I'm the only thing that keeps it at bay and keeps things in natural balance around here.

(03-28-2015 04:47 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(03-28-2015 03:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-28-2015 08:02 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Is it a temporary "sit in the corner" ban or are we talking Bearcat Bounce level of banning?

All we know is you're next.

you can't ban me...if I'm gone the sunshine homerism in this place will spread like algae. I'm the only thing that keeps it at bay and keeps things in natural balance around here.

you're welcome


I am natural selection....deal with it

You do look like a Darwin

(03-27-2015 09:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 08:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Honestly I'm not trying to be rude, but why is Aresco even pursuing this bowl game for the AAC?!?

If they believe the AAC's west division can fill the slot for this bowl game, I hope Houston doesn't signup for this thing, I rather our team remains home instead.

We are not turning down a bowl. The 16 extra practices alone are worth going to a bowl.


This is about geography. We just picked up the Cure Bowl in Florida. All the bowl slots are in east. I think we have a total of 6 bowl slots over a six year period that are west of the Mississippi. That's one slot a year for 5 western teams. This year, we have none. Birmingham is the only drivable bowl for Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and Tulane.

The reality is, our fanbases are more likely to travel to a bowl they can drive to in less than 8 hours. Its about 10 hours to Birmingham. Its about 7 hours to Little Rock. Its about 4 hours to Ft Worth. Its about 14 hours to Orlando (more to the rest of the AAC bowls). Even though Orlando is much nicer, we'll have more fans travel to these closer bowls. It is what it is. If its terrible, next bowl cycle we need to swap it for the NOLA Bowl.

FWIW----Im told the groups expected to plan the bowl events in Little Rock are very creative and are working hard to make the event a fun time for the team and the fans. They want to create an atmosphere that people will want to return to.

Is it going to be the Rose Bowl? Obviously not. That said, a small bowl in relatively small city is a huge deal for that town. You may find that Little Rock is really excited to have you as guest. Some big cities barely notice some of these small bowls are happening. Seeing your fans wearing team gear and taking over a small downtown entertainment district like Little Rock's may end up being more fun that you might think. Just saying, it might not be as bad as you expect.

IDK, guess we just have to wait and see how this turns out.

Oh, and hope the payout is reasonable for the AAC participant.

(03-28-2015 10:56 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 09:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 08:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Honestly I'm not trying to be rude, but why is Aresco even pursuing this bowl game for the AAC?!?

If they believe the AAC's west division can fill the slot for this bowl game, I hope Houston doesn't signup for this thing, I rather our team remains home instead.

We are not turning down a bowl. The 16 extra practices alone are worth going to a bowl.


This is about geography. We just picked up the Cure Bowl in Florida. All the bowl slots are in east. I think we have a total of 6 bowl slots over a six year period that are west of the Mississippi. That's one slot a year for 5 western teams. This year, we have none. Birmingham is the only drivable bowl for Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and Tulane.

The reality is, our fanbases are more likely to travel to a bowl they can drive to in less than 8 hours. Its about 10 hours to Birmingham. Its about 7 hours to Little Rock. Its about 4 hours to Ft Worth. Its about 14 hours to Orlando (more to the rest of the AAC bowls). Even though Orlando is much nicer, we'll have more fans travel to these closer bowls. It is what it is. If its terrible, next bowl cycle we need to swap it for the NOLA Bowl.

FWIW----Im told the groups expected to plan the bowl events in Little Rock are very creative and are working hard to make the event a fun time for the team and the fans. They want to create an atmosphere that people will want to return to.

Is it going to be the Rose Bowl? Obviously not. That said, a small bowl in relatively small city is a huge deal for that town. You may find that Little Rock is really excited to have you as guest. Some big cities barely notice some of these small bowls are happening. Seeing your fans wearing team gear and taking over a small downtown entertainment district like Little Rock's may end up being more fun that you might think. Just saying, it might not be as bad as you expect.

IDK, guess we just have to wait and see how this turns out.

Oh, and hope the payout is reasonable for the AAC participant.

No idea what it is. Of course, I have no idea what the Cure Bowl payout is either. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, the Miami Bowl is going into its second year and has not officially announced its payout. Just a guess---but I'm assuming these payouts are not being announced because they aren't very impressive.