I'll play... it's the off season....

BYU, Army now, to 14.

Downstream a bit and only as replacements if raided: ODU, UTSA, NIU are all possible. UMass only if they build (or commit to build) a stadium. Sorry Minutemen, it's true. Horse before cart.

The western thing is done, done, done. We tried it, got close, it blew up in our face. An eastern conference is just fine, and we're gonna do fine. Real fine.

(03-05-2015 03:13 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  I'm personally holding out for the NJ Blue Devils. Get that NYC media market and Coach K is out of this world.

Lol I'm from NJ and the highschool I would have went to if I stayed there was the Blue Devils. There were also countless little league teams named the Blue Devils in the area. It wouldn't be too weird to see the Blue Devils playing the Blue Devils. They should really open a campus up there.

(03-05-2015 03:52 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  You don't have a clue what "national brand" is if you think that's true. There aren't any true "national brands" within the G5 except for maybe Boise State Navy, and UConn (mostly b/c of their basketball).

Or how about this, maybe you define it differently. By national brand I mean a football name that is recognized anywhere in the country. A name that has it's own identity. A football program that has it's own unique history. Not all schools can say that. Most G5s can't. Boise can. Navy can. I don't think UConn football can but I do think Marshall can.

(03-05-2015 03:38 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:28 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:13 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:11 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  I would think Marshall has to be on that list. Marshall has a national brand. A good football program. Provides the conference with another school in the Temple, UConn general region. And a presence for the new 'cold weather' bowl (the AAC is reported to be in discussions with the New England Patriots.)

Careful. You might get the hopes up for the marshall fans that don't understand sarcasm.

Not sarcasm in the least. If the AAC were to expand for some reason I think Marshall would certainly be a candidate. Sorry BYU and Boise ain't coming.

Haven't you heard cusa is gonna poach an AAC team.

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BYU
Army
Air Force (I know, isn't happening)


Marshall
ODU
UTSA
Possibly a school like a Charlotte if they get good down the line
"X" CUSA school - pick one
UMass??

So, in all told, I don't think there really are any realistic candidates right now, and unless AAC loses members, there won't be any additions for quite a while

depends when it is..obviously army and byu have open invites...we'd take sdsu if they were willing to jump and we decided to expand

if its tomorrow and has to be tomorrow: (no order)
usm
rice
umass (must commit to bulding a new stadium within 5 years)
marshall
niu (must commit to expanding their stadiumt to atleast 30k and some intiniative to increase their attendance)

if its 5-10 years from now (no order)
utsa
umass (with a stadium)
odu or charolette (both need new stadiums)
or any of the current fcs transition that can dramatically increase their brand in that time period (winning on the national level) have atleast a 30k stadium ..atleast 25k attendance and in a good market and decent academics

(03-05-2015 04:05 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:52 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  You don't have a clue what "national brand" is if you think that's true. There aren't any true "national brands" within the G5 except for maybe Boise State Navy, and UConn (mostly b/c of their basketball).

Or how about this, maybe you define it differently. By national brand I mean a football name that is recognized anywhere in the country. A name that has it's own identity. A football program that has it's own unique history. Not all schools can say that. Most G5s can't. Boise can. Navy can. I don't think UConn football can but I do think Marshall can.

When I think of National Brands I'm thinking of the programs that year in and year out are top 25, blue bloods, that kind of thing... the one's that are known even by non-sports fans. Navy and Boise are exceptions for different reasons. Like I said, they're both "maybes". Everybody knows that blue field and the BCS busting. Marshall is a halfway decent sized, regional fan base at best.

National Brands for Football = Notre Dame, Alabama, Michigan, Texas, FSU
National Brands for Basketball = UNC, UK, Duke, Kansas, UConn

(03-05-2015 03:17 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  1. Ga Southern
2. Ga Southern
3. Ga Southern
4. Ga Southen
5. Georgia State (the fake GSU)

...and yo mama

The Borg

1) byu
2) Army (FB only)
3) Air Force (FB only)

The rest is a decision if we want a western pod with mwc teams. If not ODU and maybe with growth Charlotte. After that Marshall/Southern Miss.

(03-05-2015 03:17 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  1. Ga Southern
2. Ga Southern
3. Ga Southern
4. Ga Southen
5. Georgia State (the fake GSU)

Ga Southern really impressed me last year, but I don't think they're a candidate yet, but a likely candidate for CUSA along with ULL if/when CUSA loses team(s) to AAC.

best handle ever

(03-05-2015 04:27 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  1) byu
2) Army (FB only)
3) Air Force (FB only)

The rest is a decision if we want a western pod with mwc teams. If not ODU and maybe with growth Charlotte. After that Marshall/Southern Miss.

UTSA is currently a better candidate than Charlotte.

-Already plays in FBS in 65K stadium. Averages 30K...twice what Charlotte's (and significantly more than ODU's) stadium holds.
-Market is about equal with Charlotte's, with a lot less market saturation (only Spurs as competition).
-Already shown an ability to compete at CUSA level, unlike Charlotte, yet.
-Fan base would be in the upper half of AAC if they joined right now. This is a fact.

I like Charlotte as a candidate, I just don't believe they are at the level of UTSA (or ODU) yet.

(03-05-2015 04:23 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 04:05 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:52 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  You don't have a clue what "national brand" is if you think that's true. There aren't any true "national brands" within the G5 except for maybe Boise State Navy, and UConn (mostly b/c of their basketball).

Or how about this, maybe you define it differently. By national brand I mean a football name that is recognized anywhere in the country. A name that has it's own identity. A football program that has it's own unique history. Not all schools can say that. Most G5s can't. Boise can. Navy can. I don't think UConn football can but I do think Marshall can.

When I think of National Brands I'm thinking of the programs that year in and year out are top 25, blue bloods, that kind of thing... the one's that are known even by non-sports fans. Navy and Boise are exceptions for different reasons. Like I said, they're both "maybes". Everybody knows that blue field and the BCS busting. Marshall is a halfway decent sized, regional fan base at best.

National Brands for Football = Notre Dame, Alabama, Michigan, Texas, FSU
National Brands for Basketball = UNC, UK, Duke, Kansas, UConn

Well you do define it differently. Certainly more exclusively. But I do think that Marshall's name is a nationally know one. I do think that sports minded people all over the country not only know who Marshall but are very familiar with their unique history. Lots have even seen the motion picture release by Warner Brothers a few years back. They know the phrase 'We are Marshall.' By your strict standards is Marshall a national brand? Certainly not. It limited to a very few teams. Does the Marshall name have it's own identity? Is that name and identity known throughout the sports community? Certainly it is and that, by my understanding, makes it a national brand.

I would only want to expand if the Big 12 and ACC get their way with the CCG deregulation.

THEN I would like to add BYU, Boise State, San Diego State, and Colorado State and go to a pod scheduling system.

Northeast: Cincinnati, Connecticut, Navy, Temple
Southeast: East Carolina, Memphis, UCF, USF
Central: Houston, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa
West: Boise State, BYU, Colorado State, San Diego State

Take the two teams with the best records and put 'em in a CCG.

(03-05-2015 04:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:17 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  1. Ga Southern
2. Ga Southern
3. Ga Southern
4. Ga Southen
5. Georgia State (the fake GSU)

Ga Southern really impressed me last year, but I don't think they're a candidate yet, but a likely candidate for CUSA along with ULL if/when CUSA loses team(s) to AAC.

Lol... It was a joke. See who op roots for. GSU is basically Marshall, Jr.

I will add, I would be fine with those 4 schools being added in all sports as well -- as long as the travel issues can be minimized. Since Navy likely wouldn't join for all sports, maybe try to snag VCU from the A-10 for the other sports. Just a pipe dream, but that's really the only scenario I would want the AAC to expand. There is no one east of the Rockies I want for football.

NIU to replace Cincinnati
GA Southern to replace Memphis
UMass to replace UConn

(03-05-2015 04:45 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I will add, I would be fine with those 4 schools being added in all sports as well -- as long as the travel issues can be minimized. Since Navy likely wouldn't join for all sports, maybe try to snag VCU from the A-10 for the other sports. Just a pipe dream, but that's really the only scenario I would want the AAC to expand. There is no one east of the Rockies I want for football.

We would likely need to add 3 teams to get a non FB member to bite. VCU, Wichita State, ??? would make for a sick hoops league.

UMass
ODU
Charlotte
Rice

Those are the teams that I have seen mentioned and in that order.