(03-05-2015 03:50 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Let's just use this calendar.

Awesome!

(03-05-2015 03:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:23 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  But, in reality that nut job Liberal mayor is going against the separation of church and state. But, I guess it's alright if they say so.

In who's reality? Yours? Because it certainly isn't in actual reality. SOCAS refers to the first amendment and deals with the government establishing or promoting a specific religion. Not giving a day off from school.

Why isn't it referred to as Christmas or Easter Break anymore then? School districts around the country are removing Christian and Jewish references from school calendars to appease various groups, yet the NYC school district is specifically adding two Muslim holidays. If calling Christmas break "Christmas Break" isn't acceptable then why is this? What happens when an atheist opposes this? Who do liberal school board members appease then?

(03-05-2015 05:08 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:23 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  But, in reality that nut job Liberal mayor is going against the separation of church and state. But, I guess it's alright if they say so.

In who's reality? Yours? Because it certainly isn't in actual reality. SOCAS refers to the first amendment and deals with the government establishing or promoting a specific religion. Not giving a day off from school.

Why isn't it referred to as Christmas or Easter Break anymore then? School districts around the country are removing Christian and Jewish references from school calendars to appease various groups, yet the NYC school district is specifically adding two Muslim holidays. If calling Christmas break "Christmas Break" isn't acceptable then why is this? What happens when an atheist opposes this? Who do liberal school board members appease then?

No real reason. But think about it. Easter is always on a Sunday and Christmas is always combined with New Years Day...you know...holidays...hence Happy Holidays. So you're not just getting Christmas off. That being said, Christmas has for years been recognized as pretty much everything EXCEPT for the Birth of Christ and is celebrated by a fair amount of atheists one would assume.

And the schools around me don't always take their break right around Easter. It's usually sometime in the early spring and just called Spring Break. It's been called that for ages as far as I can remember.

(03-05-2015 05:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 05:08 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:23 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  But, in reality that nut job Liberal mayor is going against the separation of church and state. But, I guess it's alright if they say so.

In who's reality? Yours? Because it certainly isn't in actual reality. SOCAS refers to the first amendment and deals with the government establishing or promoting a specific religion. Not giving a day off from school.

Why isn't it referred to as Christmas or Easter Break anymore then? School districts around the country are removing Christian and Jewish references from school calendars to appease various groups, yet the NYC school district is specifically adding two Muslim holidays. If calling Christmas break "Christmas Break" isn't acceptable then why is this? What happens when an atheist opposes this? Who do liberal school board members appease then?

No real reason. But think about it. Easter is always on a Sunday and Christmas is always combined with New Years Day...you know...holidays...hence Happy Holidays. So you're not just getting Christmas off. That being said, Christmas has for years been recognized as pretty much everything EXCEPT for the Birth of Christ and is celebrated by a fair amount of atheists one would assume.

And the schools around me don't always take their break right around Easter. It's usually sometime in the early spring and just called Spring Break. It's been called that for ages as far as I can remember.

All of what you stated is correct, but once upon a time not very long ago the terminology was changed. What was the reasoning behind the change?

(03-05-2015 05:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 05:08 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:23 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  But, in reality that nut job Liberal mayor is going against the separation of church and state. But, I guess it's alright if they say so.

In who's reality? Yours? Because it certainly isn't in actual reality. SOCAS refers to the first amendment and deals with the government establishing or promoting a specific religion. Not giving a day off from school.

Why isn't it referred to as Christmas or Easter Break anymore then? School districts around the country are removing Christian and Jewish references from school calendars to appease various groups, yet the NYC school district is specifically adding two Muslim holidays. If calling Christmas break "Christmas Break" isn't acceptable then why is this? What happens when an atheist opposes this? Who do liberal school board members appease then?

No real reason. But think about it. Easter is always on a Sunday and Christmas is always combined with New Years Day...you know...holidays...hence Happy Holidays. So you're not just getting Christmas off. That being said, Christmas has for years been recognized as pretty much everything EXCEPT for the Birth of Christ and is celebrated by a fair amount of atheists one would assume.

And the schools around me don't always take their break right around Easter. It's usually sometime in the early spring and just called Spring Break. It's been called that for ages as far as I can remember.

I learned my lesson when one year after I said "Happy Holidays" to an elderly Jewish man. He looked at me and said, "Merry Christmas". I gave up that PC bullcrap right then and there.

(03-05-2015 05:31 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 05:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 05:08 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:23 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  But, in reality that nut job Liberal mayor is going against the separation of church and state. But, I guess it's alright if they say so.

In who's reality? Yours? Because it certainly isn't in actual reality. SOCAS refers to the first amendment and deals with the government establishing or promoting a specific religion. Not giving a day off from school.

Why isn't it referred to as Christmas or Easter Break anymore then? School districts around the country are removing Christian and Jewish references from school calendars to appease various groups, yet the NYC school district is specifically adding two Muslim holidays. If calling Christmas break "Christmas Break" isn't acceptable then why is this? What happens when an atheist opposes this? Who do liberal school board members appease then?

No real reason. But think about it. Easter is always on a Sunday and Christmas is always combined with New Years Day...you know...holidays...hence Happy Holidays. So you're not just getting Christmas off. That being said, Christmas has for years been recognized as pretty much everything EXCEPT for the Birth of Christ and is celebrated by a fair amount of atheists one would assume.

And the schools around me don't always take their break right around Easter. It's usually sometime in the early spring and just called Spring Break. It's been called that for ages as far as I can remember.

All of what you stated is correct, but once upon a time not very long ago the terminology was changed. What was the reasoning behind the change?

My guess is that it's just stupid PC crap. Sadly, too many folks just refuse to understand what the first amendment actually says...so we take the easy way out just to shut people up.

I still say MC to everyone...never had a problem yet. It's only on Valentine's Day that I get shade.

(03-05-2015 05:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 05:31 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 05:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 05:08 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 03:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  In who's reality? Yours? Because it certainly isn't in actual reality. SOCAS refers to the first amendment and deals with the government establishing or promoting a specific religion. Not giving a day off from school.

Why isn't it referred to as Christmas or Easter Break anymore then? School districts around the country are removing Christian and Jewish references from school calendars to appease various groups, yet the NYC school district is specifically adding two Muslim holidays. If calling Christmas break "Christmas Break" isn't acceptable then why is this? What happens when an atheist opposes this? Who do liberal school board members appease then?

No real reason. But think about it. Easter is always on a Sunday and Christmas is always combined with New Years Day...you know...holidays...hence Happy Holidays. So you're not just getting Christmas off. That being said, Christmas has for years been recognized as pretty much everything EXCEPT for the Birth of Christ and is celebrated by a fair amount of atheists one would assume.

And the schools around me don't always take their break right around Easter. It's usually sometime in the early spring and just called Spring Break. It's been called that for ages as far as I can remember.

All of what you stated is correct, but once upon a time not very long ago the terminology was changed. What was the reasoning behind the change?

My guess is that it's just stupid PC crap. Sadly, too many folks just refuse to understand what the first amendment actually says...so we take the easy way out just to shut people up.

and that brings me to my problem. If Christian and Jewish holidays were renamed due to being "pc" or another reason, how can a school district declare there will be muslim holidays and not act against the "pc" trend? the only answer is that is isn't "pc" to include christian and jewish holidays, but musilm holidays are "pc"

They have days off for Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur anyway, I think they put that in because of low attendance on those days it's not so much of an endorsement of religion, just being sensible really, they have a certain number of days off anyway. Around 10% or so of New Yorkers are Muslims, if they're having the same problem with Islamic holidays as they had with Jewish ones then it's not really a big deal, if they're doing it under some sense of equality then it's stupid, but then again it's De Blasio and the NYC Council so what do you expect? Spring Break begins on Good Friday and obviously they have Christmas off anyway.

"We're here today to make good on a promise to our Muslim brothers and sisters that a holiday of supreme importance to the Muslim community will be recognized in our school calendar so that children can honor the holiday..."

How is this not endorsing a religion? Replace Muslim with Christian and WWIII breaks out. Where are the atheists and ACLU?

(03-05-2015 09:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  "We're here today to make good on a promise to our Muslim brothers and sisters that a holiday of supreme importance to the Muslim community will be recognized in our school calendar so that children can honor the holiday..."

How is this not endorsing a religion? Replace Muslim with Christian and WWIII breaks out. Where are the atheists and ACLU?

LOL, you beat me to it. That was going to be my next question.

(03-05-2015 09:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  "We're here today to make good on a promise to our Muslim brothers and sisters that a holiday of supreme importance to the Muslim community will be recognized in our school calendar so that children can honor the holiday..."

How is this not endorsing a religion? Replace Muslim with Christian and WWIII breaks out. Where are the atheists and ACLU?

Fair enough, there goes my theory.

De Blasio is a wacko though, NYC made a big mistake with him. Anyone who has Al Sharpton as his right hand man (literally so in many press conferences) shows his MO. It's all words and fronting.

Last I checked schools allowed for religious holidays to be taken off without penalty for those who claim to be part of such religion. I believe in separation of Church and State 100%, the Christian holidays are just kinda grandfathered in and made in general "holidays" or breaks.

(03-05-2015 09:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  "We're here today to make good on a promise to our Muslim brothers and sisters that a holiday of supreme importance to the Muslim community will be recognized in our school calendar so that children can honor the holiday..."

How is this not endorsing a religion? Replace Muslim with Christian and WWIII breaks out. Where are the atheists and ACLU?

Where does he tell anyone that they have to join or practice the Islamic faith? That would be endorsing a religion.

(03-06-2015 10:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  "We're here today to make good on a promise to our Muslim brothers and sisters that a holiday of supreme importance to the Muslim community will be recognized in our school calendar so that children can honor the holiday..."

How is this not endorsing a religion? Replace Muslim with Christian and WWIII breaks out. Where are the atheists and ACLU?

Where does he tell anyone that they have to join or practice the Islamic faith? That would be endorsing a religion.

So you are now saying Obama is going to force everyone to get a same sex marriage since he endorsed them?

(03-06-2015 10:37 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 10:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  "We're here today to make good on a promise to our Muslim brothers and sisters that a holiday of supreme importance to the Muslim community will be recognized in our school calendar so that children can honor the holiday..."

How is this not endorsing a religion? Replace Muslim with Christian and WWIII breaks out. Where are the atheists and ACLU?

Where does he tell anyone that they have to join or practice the Islamic faith? That would be endorsing a religion.

So you are now saying Obama is going to force everyone to get a same sex marriage since he endorsed them?

Where specifically did Obama endorse gay marriage?

(03-06-2015 11:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 10:37 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 10:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 09:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  "We're here today to make good on a promise to our Muslim brothers and sisters that a holiday of supreme importance to the Muslim community will be recognized in our school calendar so that children can honor the holiday..."

How is this not endorsing a religion? Replace Muslim with Christian and WWIII breaks out. Where are the atheists and ACLU?

Where does he tell anyone that they have to join or practice the Islamic faith? That would be endorsing a religion.

So you are now saying Obama is going to force everyone to get a same sex marriage since he endorsed them?

Where specifically did Obama endorse gay marriage?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2...story.html

I made sure to find a leftist publication so that you couldn't discount it like you do any other publication that doesn't walk lockstep with the leftist ideals.

Quote:President Obama announced Wednesday that he believes same-sex couples should be granted the right to marry, becoming the first U.S. president in history to fully embrace that level of civil rights for gays.

That's not an endorsement. The WaPo story title does not match the story. Nowhere does Obama say that all same-sex couples should get married. THAT would be an endorsement. What he's endorsing if anything is their rights.

If a school allows someone to put up a nativity scene that is considered the government endorsing a religion. But there is no country of Islam, it's purely a religion, so allowing those days off is honoring that religion i.e. endorsement. And ya gotta love how de Blasio skipped right over the gays and Mexicans - Muslims trump them both.

I can't wait until the next NYC election. That should be entertaining.

(03-04-2015 10:40 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Wait a minute, we don't celebrate Christian holidays, we celebrate the Holiday Season.

Quote:NEW YORK (MYFOXNY) -

The New York City school closing calendar will add two holidays to celebrate Muslim events.

Mayor Bill de Blasio confirmed via Twitter that the largest school district in the country will add Eid al-Adha and al-Fitr to the school holiday schedule.

The mayor said it "respects the diversity of our city."

"We're here today to make good on a promise to our Muslim brothers and sisters that a holiday of supreme importance to the Muslim community will be recognized in our school calendar so that children can honor the holiday without missing school, so that families can be together on the holiday, so that our city respects and embraces this important and growing community," de Blasio said at an event Wednesday. "We're making good on a promise, and it's time for this promise to be kept."

In the coming 2015-2016 school year, schools will close on September 24 for Eid al-Adha. The event, also called the Feast of the Sacrifice, celebrates Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son Ishmael.

As part of the event, meat from a sacrificed animal is divided into three parts. The family retains one third. Another third is given to relatives or neighbors. The final is given to the poor and needy.

Eid al-Fitr, which falls over the summer, will be designated a holiday for those attending summer school.

That event, also called Feast of Breaking the Fast, is also considered an important religious holiday for Muslims. It marks the end of Ramadan, the Islamic holy month of fasting.

Schools Chancellor Carmen Fariña said each school year will be adjusted to take into account when all recognized holidays fall to make sure the mandated minimum of 180 days of classroom time is met. She said the schedule always builds in a few extra days in anticipation of snow days.

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/28258296/ny...m-holidays

If you think "Holiday Break" has nothing to do with Xmas then I've got some excellent property in Less Cruces to sell you.