What are you hearing about this?

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/2015/3/1/...get-crisis

(03-02-2015 09:04 PM)indianE Wrote:  What are you hearing about this?

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/2015/3/1/...get-crisis

2 things.

1. Anyone thinking about voting for that dumb*** Jindal for Pres, better think twice. He is awful

2. UL will be fine. No guarantees for the rest/

Z

Pretty good article.
Its past time for innovative thinking on the g5 level.

My only prediction is that LSU somehow manages to come out of this smelling like a rose and doesn't even notice the money issue. Once the State satisfies what LSU wants, they might find time for the rest of the bunch.

If the state of louisianna is anything like alabama, Lsu will come out of state wide budget cuts with a raise.

Only the strong will survive.

(03-02-2015 09:52 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  My only prediction is that LSU somehow manages to come out of this smelling like a rose and doesn't even notice the money issue. Once the State satisfies what LSU wants, they might find time for the rest of the bunch.

Dont kid yourself Chief. UL has some muscle in the statehouse. Everyone will feel the pain, including "the football school"

(03-02-2015 09:04 PM)indianE Wrote:  What are you hearing about this?

http://www.underdogdynasty.com/2015/3/1/...get-crisis

we will be fine

If consolidation were to occur, what are the latest rumors of how it would go down? Would the HBCUs be drawn together? Would the Southland schools become one university with multiple campuses? Dare I bring up the much despised notion of the Tech-ULM merger?

All of these have been speculated as nauseum for years. But now that there are seems to be an urgency to do something, are they more likely to go down now?

ULL and ULM will merge, creating the new University of Louisiana-Monroe of Lafayette Louisiana.

(03-03-2015 10:56 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  ULL and ULM will merge, creating the new University of Louisiana-Monroe of Lafayette Louisiana.

when the dust settles, little to nothing will change. news writer operating in panic mode. there are "the sky is falling" stories all over the place. probably going to need to be some belt tightening due to reduced oil and gas revenues for a while..we are hearing some similar rumblings here in texas because oil in and gas is a large part of the economy here too.

(03-03-2015 11:21 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 10:56 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  ULL and ULM will merge, creating the new University of Louisiana-Monroe of Lafayette Louisiana.

when the dust settles, little to nothing will change. news writer operating in panic mode. there are "the sky is falling" stories all over the place. probably going to need to be some belt tightening due to reduced oil and gas revenues for a while..we are hearing some similar rumblings here in texas because oil in and gas is a large part of the economy here too.

HBCUs needs to worry. The FCS will be fine.

(03-03-2015 11:21 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 10:56 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  ULL and ULM will merge, creating the new University of Louisiana-Monroe of Lafayette Louisiana.

when the dust settles, little to nothing will change. news writer operating in panic mode. there are "the sky is falling" stories all over the place. probably going to need to be some belt tightening due to reduced oil and gas revenues for a while..we are hearing some similar rumblings here in texas because oil in and gas is a large part of the economy here too.

Grambling, LA Tech and ULM are about 30 minutes from each other. It would make sense to merge or do something in a part of the state that is lightly populated. They do this every single year and nothing changes. Money seems to fall from the sky and save the day.

(03-03-2015 10:51 AM)SlyFox Wrote:  If consolidation were to occur, what are the latest rumors of how it would go down? Would the HBCUs be drawn together? Would the Southland schools become one university with multiple campuses? Dare I bring up the much despised notion of the Tech-ULM merger?

All of these have been speculated as nauseum for years. But now that there are seems to be an urgency to do something, are they more likely to go down now?

They can't get SUNO and UNO to merge and they are right across the street from each other.

These are not the first budget cuts I've seen in LA. In the early to mid 80's these type of cuts bit deep into education. In Louisiana's case, we saw an enormous budget increase fron the mid teen billions to just over $30B in less than 5 years. The Katrina/Rita effect as you wil. Anyone tracking budgets over the last 10 years knew it was only a matter of time before the budgets were forced down. Current budgets to population versus past budgets to populations were all you needed to observe to know we were artificially skewed. That said, state government at many levels have been wacked to the tune of about 30,000 employees from what I can tell. However, LA has always found a way to persevere. We can pinch penny's better than anyone. However, the HBCS is in serious trouble that to some levels may be beyond recovery. There will eventually be some consolidation there.

Wasn't it Grambling that missed a game or two because the players walked out due to conditions of the locker room and such??? I think that school is barely holding on, you would think a school with that much history would have produced more then a couple of students that could come back as a benefactor and help raise money to support it. I could see those schools with tight budgets, the HBCU's, ULM take a hit. And with the pay to play scenario, we could see more the a few FBS teams drop to FCs or lower.

(03-03-2015 11:26 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Wasn't it Grambling that missed a game or two because the players walked out due to conditions of the locker room and such??? I think that school is barely holding on, you would think a school with that much history would have produced more then a couple of students that could come back as a benefactor and help raise money to support it. I could see those schools with tight budgets, the HBCU's, ULM take a hit. And with the pay to play scenario, we could see more the a few FBS teams drop to FCs or lower.

well, since having a football program is not a requirement for a university to exist in the first place, a few more may drop the sport.

(03-03-2015 09:15 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 11:21 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 10:56 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  ULL and ULM will merge, creating the new University of Louisiana-Monroe of Lafayette Louisiana.

when the dust settles, little to nothing will change. news writer operating in panic mode. there are "the sky is falling" stories all over the place. probably going to need to be some belt tightening due to reduced oil and gas revenues for a while..we are hearing some similar rumblings here in texas because oil in and gas is a large part of the economy here too.

Grambling, LA Tech and ULM are about 30 minutes from each other. It would make sense to merge or do something in a part of the state that is lightly populated. They do this every single year and nothing changes. Money seems to fall from the sky and save the day.

If there's a merger in the top part of the state, it will be Tech and Grambling since that HBCU is barely hanging on. What needs to be dealt with is the plethora of community colleges...that are trying to become regional schools...that popped up over the last 15 years as well as the 2-year colleges that became 4-year schools (LSU-Shreveport for example). There are too many brick-and-mortar-after-high-school options in this state and its the legislature that let it happen. Now the money is spread way too thin because we had legislators who wanted to put feathers in their caps for re-election.

(03-04-2015 10:45 AM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 09:15 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 11:21 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 10:56 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  ULL and ULM will merge, creating the new University of Louisiana-Monroe of Lafayette Louisiana.

when the dust settles, little to nothing will change. news writer operating in panic mode. there are "the sky is falling" stories all over the place. probably going to need to be some belt tightening due to reduced oil and gas revenues for a while..we are hearing some similar rumblings here in texas because oil in and gas is a large part of the economy here too.

Grambling, LA Tech and ULM are about 30 minutes from each other. It would make sense to merge or do something in a part of the state that is lightly populated. They do this every single year and nothing changes. Money seems to fall from the sky and save the day.

If there's a merger in the top part of the state, it will be Tech and Grambling since that HBCU is barely hanging on. What needs to be dealt with is the plethora of community colleges...that are trying to become regional schools...that popped up over the last 15 years as well as the 2-year colleges that became 4-year schools (LSU-Shreveport for example). There are too many brick-and-mortar-after-high-school options in this state and its the legislature that let it happen. Now the money is spread way too thin because we had legislators who wanted to put feathers in their caps for re-election.

Completely agree with your statements about the community colleges and LSUA and LSUS going 4 year. We had too many 4 year schools before they transitioned to begin with. This also happened at a time when Louisiana's population has been in decline.

Grambling and Tech (just like Southern and LSU) are under a desegregation order that requires some LA Tech majors to take classes at Grambling and vice versa. Grambling is untouchable. They won't be going anywhere.

The expansion of TOPS has also caused a problem because it has become a double whammy for university budgets. First, state tax dollars are dedicated to this program instead of having more money for budget concerns. Second, schools have been shackled from increasing tuition because they must have legislative approval due to number of students receiving TOPS from state coffers. This program needs to go on a diet and truly go back to its original intent of keeping LA's BEST high school graduates in the state.

The whole tax structure in the state is based on an outdated model of severance taxes. Anytime the oil prices drop we have budget short falls. I think it is time for a new state constitution to fix a lot of this mess we have in this state. We have already had 11 state constitutions (more than any other state), what's one more?

Shutting down football programs won't fix that budget hole. They would just be PR moves. To fix this you need to adjust the state constitution to allow level budget cuts across all sectors of state budget or close whole campuses. Blaming FBS football at ULL, ULM, or LA Tech is just a canard. We three make easy targets because we hate each other and everyone else in this state thinks anything but LSU football is a waste of time. I for one don't want to see any of the FBS football programs shut down.